I'm the oldest of 5 boys. Every one of us was taught on a savage 20 gauge with the adapter. I shot my first squirrel with that 20. Now I'm re finishing it for my 5 year old grandson. Cannot find the .410 adapter though. So my dad started this tradition in 1967. All 5 of us used it. All 4 of my kids used this gun. Now my grandsons gonna use it. My fathers gone for ten years now but the memories of this gun outshine all our modern hunting and entertainment guns.
Thanks very much for the great vid. I have a 12g one I got in a box of old ammo and reloading stuff many years ago new in it's box. I tried to chamber it in my Spanish double but it didnt seem to want to go and I didn't want to force it. After seeing your video I replaced the o ring, greased it and gave it a good push and it chambers and works perfectly in my gun. Looking forward to getting some .410 shells to try it. Now I'll have to find another one for the other barrel.
great vid i thought i was the only one with one of these.i have the 12 ga verision..when i show this to the young wipersnapers they look at me as if i was from another planet ..i used mine back in the 70s to finish off wounded ducks in the marsh & it worked great & bought it from my local western auto store for about 6 bucks...
7:12 Exactly. That's why I got a .410 adapter for my Baikal MP-94 Sever...to avoid vaporizing short-range grouse. My adapter also fires .45 Colt rounds. Plus I have an 18" .30-30 adapter for deer. All of that plus the .22 barrel on top makes for one heck of a versatile gun!
Please what is the brand of your adapters ,and are they still in business ? I have a double side by side 18" and have been looking for Tubes to fit it .
I picked up a savage 24c combination gun last year .22lr over .20 gauge and it came with the .410 insert,old steel savage model 412f I think, very cool gun, three calibers in one!
I used to have a Savage 24F in 20ga/22lr. That model was one with the fiberglass stocks and it was quite heavy, I expect your 24C would be considerably lighter with the wood stocks.
I have one of these for the 12ga that I bought about 30 years ago, and I think I paid about $25.00 for it (a lot of money back then). haven't seen any of them since. I would love to find some more. Mine has always worked great, never a problem. Mine still has the original "O" ring. thanks for posting this.
Nice video I saw one on eBay and wanted to know about it...totally cool and a great idea for young hunters or new shooters. I know my first experience with a Browning model 5, 12 ga was more then I expected.
I was 8 years old at the tiem and had no idea. I could barely hold up the old Browning model 5 and ended up on my behind and with everyoen made at me. I learned to shoot hand guns with a 44 magnum but was 13 so it was not so bad. No days they ahve all kinds of adapters for shotguns so you can shoot 44 magnum and special from a 12 ga or 45 acp, 16, 20 410 and 28 ga plus 9mm, 45 LC and .22. I even have an adapter to shoot 45 LC or .410 shotshels from a 28mm flaregun. The flaregun is an old steel and wood one.
Just picked one of these up at a show for $40 in 12g. Has its original box. Thought it was just a gimmick but cool. Glad to know I actually bought something useful. Need one in 20g now.
Pretty neat, They look like a good alternative to owning a .410 shotgun.. Looking at the construction they should be safe to run in a Damascus twist barrel shotgun too which could be handy :-)
@@314299 I have a Hollis and Sons SxS 12 gauge with ,as far as I can make is black powder proofed, that I was considering shooting black powder loads through the Fourtenner or the Shooters Box adapters. If I can shoot modern .410 rounds through this old gun, it would be handy as joehunt wrote. Having black powder loads and modern .410 cartridges could become a little confusing. I'd only consider shooting 2 1/2" shells or even 2". What are your thoughts on this as I greatly value your advice? Cheers, Steve
Very interesting video, whenever you put one out, it is always so. I did not understand though, in lower two barrels, is this the aluminum shroud with steel liner, or the front part of the barrel is actually completely made of aluminum?
I may have missed it in your video, but what is the overall length of those? I have a Dominion arms Outlaw shotgun with 12.5" barrels, however it has a fixed choke in both barrels.
G'Day from Australia, I recently bought a single shot .410 Boito after shooting 12 gauges for over 50 years as well as a Savage Fourtenner so that I can fire .410 cartridges in my single barrel 12 gauge. I was wondering if I can fire .410 gauge slugs through the .410 insert.. I've assumed that it would be cylinder choke but I'd still like your advice. I always enjoy watching your videos as they contain plenty of clear information , whatever the subject. Cheers, Steve
Greeting from Canada. There should be no issues in shooting slugs in the Savage 410 insert, the ones I have are just a cylinder bore and as far as I know they are all like that. Not sure what you will get for accuracy but you never know until you try. The insert barrel is long enough that you should get pretty decent speed out of any slugs you use. Best of success with your 410 shooting. Are there any issues getting 410 shells in Australia? They are in very short supply here at the moment.
@@314299 Sorry to take so long in replying to your question about .410 shells availability in OZ . There have been times over the last 3 years when .410 cartridges have been hard to find. Actually, all ammo seemed to dry up and all gun shops as well as most small businesses were closed for long periods due to our (Victoria's ) COVID restrictions. We had the dubious honour of being the longest locked down city in the world! Whenever I dropped into my local gun shop ( when they were allowed to be open) I would buy a couple of boxes ( if they were on the shelf), usually a box each of 2 1/2" and 3" cartridges. Lately, supplies of .410 ammo have become reasonably stable. Here in OZ, the .410 seems to be going through something of a resurgence of popularity. It was regarded as a child's gun or snake gun but I know of a lot of adults, myself included, who have started shooting the .410 rather than the 12 gauge. I've found my little single shot Boito .410 to be a delight to carry and fine for shooting short range rabbits. Could I ask which length .410 cartridge you prefer for hunting small game such as rabbits-- 2 1/2 or 3"? I have a stock of both length cartridges, mostly loaded with #6 shot, although a box of #7 1/2 sneaked in somehow! I've thought I might try #4 shot in the three inch cartridge but the number of pellets in the load put me off. I always enjoy watching your videos, as I always learn much from them. Cheers, Steve
Yes and no. It would fit but there are several possible interference issues. The "host" gun would either break off the adapters extractor or it would attempt to pull the whole adapter back into the action, depending on how the adapter were indexed to the host gun's extractor.
I have one 20ga to 410 originally came with Savage model 24D 22lr over 20ga I used it alot until my oldest brother sold it but I kept the adapter use it in a NEF 20ga. I need a new seal for it though.
Savage only made these 12" long ones. There are companies that make short adapters that are the length of a shell and would work in a pump action. One company that makes them is "Short Lane LLC", if you buy ones for .22 Long Rifle and 380 ACP be sure to buy the ones that have rifling as the smooth bore ones are pretty useless.
It's certainly not a Savage product if it's that long, but if it is in decent condition that is a great price. Some of the longer sub gauge inserts are not "universal" fit, so you might want to see if it fits the gun you plan on using it in.
well,thanks for advice! By the way, the long four tenner has like these rings at about every 20 cm, and at the end of it, there is a sort of big nut acting like choke screwed on to the tube to stabilize it.
I see these for sale at gun shows every now and then, but the current asking prices show that these are much more "collector" items than they are "user" items.
Some, but not all, pumps and autos have removable barrels For those guns which the barrel is removable you would have to take the barrel off for each shot, not exactly practical. And the extractor would get jammed on the adapter.
I know this has nothing to do with this video, which is excellent by the way, but I just purchased some Lee two cavity moulds. The directions are a little confusing as to what I need to do to them befor the first time use. It says clean them and oil them and then it says remove all oil! Really confusing as all get out. It contradicts itself!
@@314299 Спасибо за ответ. Вот уж не ожидал увидеть этот дробовик на вашем канале. У меня в пользовании ИЖ-27М 1990 года выпуска. Безотказное ружье. Удачи вам и развития каналу! ))
I am not aware of anyone who make a 28 gauge to 22LR adapter. Perhaps if you were to contact Short Lane LLC you could inquire if they could make you one: www.gunadapters.com/contact-us/
These Savage brand tubes have been out of production for many years. There are modern equivalents such as the "Gaugemate" tubes, although they are more expensive.
I'm the oldest of 5 boys. Every one of us was taught on a savage 20 gauge with the adapter. I shot my first squirrel with that 20. Now I'm re finishing it for my 5 year old grandson. Cannot find the .410 adapter though. So my dad started this tradition in 1967. All 5 of us used it. All 4 of my kids used this gun. Now my grandsons gonna use it. My fathers gone for ten years now but the memories of this gun outshine all our modern hunting and entertainment guns.
Nice. Hopefully you come across your .410 adapter, or can come across a replacement.
They come up on ebay now and then. Getting pricey Normal range is 50- 100 dollars
Thanks very much for the great vid. I have a 12g one I got in a box of old ammo and reloading stuff many years ago new in it's box. I tried to chamber it in my Spanish double but it didnt seem to want to go and I didn't want to force it. After seeing your video I replaced the o ring, greased it and gave it a good push and it chambers and works perfectly in my gun. Looking forward to getting some .410 shells to try it. Now I'll have to find another one for the other barrel.
Yeah, it's really nice to have a pair of them for the double barrel guns, I missed getting a second of the 12 gauge units by about 20 minutes!
great vid i thought i was the only one with one of these.i have the 12 ga verision..when i show this to the young wipersnapers they look at me as if i was from another planet ..i used mine back in the 70s to finish off wounded ducks in the marsh & it worked great & bought it from my local western auto store for about 6 bucks...
You made a good investment for six dollars!
Thank you for familiarizing me with how they work. I will go shopping for a couple to fit my old double barreled shotgun with the worn out chambers.
Getting a pair of them might take awhile.
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A very good review.
7:12 Exactly. That's why I got a .410 adapter for my Baikal MP-94 Sever...to avoid vaporizing short-range grouse. My adapter also fires .45 Colt rounds. Plus I have an 18" .30-30 adapter for deer. All of that plus the .22 barrel on top makes for one heck of a versatile gun!
Please what is the brand of your adapters ,and are they still in business ? I have a double side by side 18" and have been looking for Tubes to fit it .
Хорошая идея. У нас на ружье с патронником 5.6-39 используют переходник для патрона 22 лр.
I picked up a savage 24c combination gun last year .22lr over .20 gauge and it came with the .410 insert,old steel savage model 412f I think, very cool gun, three calibers in one!
I used to have a Savage 24F in 20ga/22lr. That model was one with the fiberglass stocks and it was quite heavy, I expect your 24C would be considerably lighter with the wood stocks.
I have one of these for the 12ga that I bought about 30 years ago, and I think I paid about $25.00 for it (a lot of money back then). haven't seen any of them since. I would love to find some more. Mine has always worked great, never a problem. Mine still has the original "O" ring. thanks for posting this.
These sometimes come up for sale on-line (eBay, auction arms, etc) but they sometimes sell for quite a bit.
Nice video I saw one on eBay and wanted to know about it...totally cool and a great idea for young hunters or new shooters. I know my first experience with a Browning model 5, 12 ga was more then I expected.
A 12 gauge is certainly a bit much for a new shooter, a 20 gauge is a far better type.
I was 8 years old at the tiem and had no idea. I could barely hold up the old Browning model 5 and ended up on my behind and with everyoen made at me. I learned to shoot hand guns with a 44 magnum but was 13 so it was not so bad. No days they ahve all kinds of adapters for shotguns so you can shoot 44 magnum and special from a 12 ga or 45 acp, 16, 20 410 and 28 ga plus 9mm, 45 LC and .22. I even have an adapter to shoot 45 LC or .410 shotshels from a 28mm flaregun. The flaregun is an old steel and wood one.
Just picked one of these up at a show for $40 in 12g. Has its original box. Thought it was just a gimmick but cool. Glad to know I actually bought something useful. Need one in 20g now.
You got a good deal there, I've seen them for well of $100 when in their original box.
Nice video, quite informative.
Glad you liked it and thanks for commenting.
Wish they still made these. I have a beautiful Damascus bbl 12 ga that I'd love to make usable.
+James teffertiller There are modern equivalents such as the "Gaugemate" tubes, although they are more expensive.
Chappia makes a whole adapter kit . (Spelling ? ). Also you can just Google shotgun adapters. Hope this helps you.
they come up on ebay now and then ,16 and 20ga are hard to find
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
They are a neat little item, worth picking up.
Pretty neat, They look like a good alternative to owning a .410 shotgun..
Looking at the construction they should be safe to run in a Damascus twist barrel shotgun too which could be handy :-)
Yes, guys with Damascus twist barrels do use these or similar tubes so they can shoot modern ammo in the old guns.
@@314299 I have a Hollis and Sons SxS 12 gauge with ,as far as I can make is black powder proofed, that I was considering shooting black powder loads through the Fourtenner or the Shooters Box adapters. If I can shoot modern .410 rounds through this old gun, it would be handy as joehunt wrote. Having black powder loads and modern .410 cartridges could become a little confusing. I'd only consider shooting 2 1/2" shells or even 2". What are your thoughts on this as I greatly value your advice?
Cheers,
Steve
Very interesting video, whenever you put one out, it is always so.
I did not understand though, in lower two barrels, is this the aluminum shroud with steel liner, or the front part of the barrel is actually completely made of aluminum?
The barrel is completely aluminum while the rear chamber end of the adapter is made of steel.
I have a pair of 20 ga tubes. I like to put one in my 20 SXS for squirrels. 20 and 410 makes it nice for any distance situations.
I do the same with my 20 ga over/under, using the .410 for close shots on grouse and the 20 ga for the more distant ones.
good combination - 2 guns for the price of one
what size is the O ring in the 20ga adapter I need to replace the one on my tube, thanks jim
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Does the chock have any affect on the shot pattern? Too bad they are not made anymore have a single shot I would love to use them in. Nice video
Yes, the host guns choke does have an effect on the pattern when using the .410 adapter.
I may have missed it in your video, but what is the overall length of those? I have a Dominion arms Outlaw shotgun with 12.5" barrels, however it has a fixed choke in both barrels.
They are 12" long in total.
Thank you.
No problem, thanks for the comment.
There a hell of a lot better then the cheep one being sold today.
There are some comparable tubes being made today, but they are bloody expensive.
G'Day from Australia,
I recently bought a single shot .410 Boito after shooting 12 gauges for over 50 years as well as a Savage Fourtenner so that I can fire .410 cartridges in my single barrel 12 gauge. I was wondering if I can fire .410 gauge slugs through the .410 insert.. I've assumed that it would be cylinder choke but I'd still like your advice.
I always enjoy watching your videos as they contain plenty of clear information , whatever the subject.
Cheers,
Steve
Greeting from Canada.
There should be no issues in shooting slugs in the Savage 410 insert, the ones I have are just a cylinder bore and as far as I know they are all like that. Not sure what you will get for accuracy but you never know until you try. The insert barrel is long enough that you should get pretty decent speed out of any slugs you use. Best of success with your 410 shooting.
Are there any issues getting 410 shells in Australia? They are in very short supply here at the moment.
@@314299 Sorry to take so long in replying to your question about .410 shells availability in OZ . There have been times over the last 3 years when .410 cartridges have been hard to find. Actually, all ammo seemed to dry up and all gun shops as well as most small businesses were closed for long periods due to our (Victoria's ) COVID restrictions. We had the dubious honour of being the longest locked down city in the world! Whenever I dropped into my local gun shop ( when they were allowed to be open) I would buy a couple of boxes ( if they were on the shelf), usually a box each of 2 1/2" and 3" cartridges. Lately, supplies of .410 ammo have become reasonably stable. Here in OZ, the .410 seems to be going through something of a resurgence of popularity. It was regarded as a child's gun or snake gun but I know of a lot of adults, myself included, who have started shooting the .410 rather than the 12 gauge. I've found my little single shot Boito .410 to be a delight to carry and fine for shooting short range rabbits.
Could I ask which length .410 cartridge you prefer for hunting small game such as rabbits--
2 1/2 or 3"? I have a stock of both length cartridges, mostly loaded with #6 shot, although a box of #7 1/2 sneaked in somehow! I've thought I might try #4 shot in the three inch cartridge but the number of pellets in the load put me off.
I always enjoy watching your videos, as I always learn much from them.
Cheers,
Steve
Can you just take the barrel off of a pump action to insert the adapter? like a mossberg 500 for example?
Yes and no.
It would fit but there are several possible interference issues. The "host" gun would either break off the adapters extractor or it would attempt to pull the whole adapter back into the action, depending on how the adapter were indexed to the host gun's extractor.
I didn't think about the position of the extractor. Thank you.
I have one 20ga to 410 originally came with Savage model 24D 22lr over 20ga I used it alot until my oldest brother sold it but I kept the adapter use it in a NEF 20ga. I need a new seal for it though.
A hydraulic supply place should be able to supply you with the correct size O ring.
@@314299 Or an old fashion hardware store. Take it with you. Needs to be tight on the tube , or it will hang up in the barrel.
Is there a one for a pump shotgun, cylinder, adapter chambers sleeve, 12, gauge four, 22long and a 380 ACP.
Savage only made these 12" long ones. There are companies that make short adapters that are the length of a shell and would work in a pump action. One company that makes them is "Short Lane LLC", if you buy ones for .22 Long Rifle and 380 ACP be sure to buy the ones that have rifling as the smooth bore ones are pretty useless.
hey, someone offered one like those to me for a 12 ga, and it is 75 cm long and very light, for $40, what do you think of such price?
It's certainly not a Savage product if it's that long, but if it is in decent condition that is a great price. Some of the longer sub gauge inserts are not "universal" fit, so you might want to see if it fits the gun you plan on using it in.
well,thanks for advice!
By the way, the long four tenner has like these rings at about every 20 cm, and at the end of it, there is a sort of big nut acting like choke screwed on to the tube to stabilize it.
Sounds like it might be a Briley tube.
grab it,if it is in good condition.O ring can be replaced, Check the extractor to be sure it functions Prices on ebay run as high as $140.00
great!
Thanks.
Great vid, Sub'd
Thanks.
LuV 2 find one looked on ebay but none found so far! Will stay on the Hunt TY 4 info sub'd 2 ur fine site also ;)
Good luck with your search, they made a lot of these so you should come across one eventually.
I have an older all steel four tenner for 12 gauge. can i shoot slugs or buck shout out of it.
They should be safe with slugs or buckshot. Let us know how you get along for accuracy with the slugs, should be interesting to see.
Good Vid! What's the make & model of the 20 gauge? Thanks.
It's a Baikal IZH 27 EM-1C, a very reliable and sturdy gun.
About 30-40% of all hunters use IZH-27 in 12Ga here in Ukraine.
yevgenz
They are reasonably popular here in Canada. I've shot this 20 gauge quite a bit, I would estimate 12,000 shots so far.
You should feel like you hit the Jack pot when you get a gem like this. Good luck finding some now days
I see these for sale at gun shows every now and then, but the current asking prices show that these are much more "collector" items than they are "user" items.
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You can take barrels off of all shotguns including semis and pumps.
Some, but not all, pumps and autos have removable barrels For those guns which the barrel is removable you would have to take the barrel off for each shot, not exactly practical. And the extractor would get jammed on the adapter.
i have 2 410ers for 12 ga shotgun have any idea how much thay are worth
I've seen a lot of variation in price, $50 to $100 each.
Any idea where to look for one.
+Wally Haskett On-line auction places are good to check, sometimes they come up for sale at gun shows.
on ebay "savage four tenner" 20 ga , and 16ga are hard to find
I know this has nothing to do with this video, which is excellent by the way, but I just purchased some Lee two cavity moulds. The directions are a little confusing as to what I need to do to them befor the first time use. It says clean them and oil them and then it says remove all oil! Really confusing as all get out. It contradicts itself!
Do you have the old style Lee moulds (with the V type mating surfaces) or the new style ones.
The new style
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Thanks.
Двухстволка уж больно сильно похожа на отечественную ИЖ-27!!!
That's what it is.
походу точно бро
what model do these tubes fit intl?
These are not specific to any model, they should fit any gun of correct gauge.
where can i buy one a 419 to 9mm?
Short Lane LLC makes a 9mm to .410 adapter.
Такой вкладной ствол мне очень
Нравится где можно купить.? Спасибо
The Savage "Four Tenner" is no longer in production, you might find a used one on eBay.
Good!
Very well!
I want one complect
Prize?
Hello from Kyrgyzstan.
I'm glad you liked the video. Unfortunately I don't sell these, this a review of an old product that is no longer manufactured.
Я не понял, это что ИЖ-27? ))
The shotgun I'm putting the adapter tubes into is a Baikal MP-27 EM-1C, I think it would be called "IZH-27" in the Russian market.
@@314299 Спасибо за ответ. Вот уж не ожидал увидеть этот дробовик на вашем канале. У меня в пользовании ИЖ-27М 1990 года выпуска. Безотказное ружье. Удачи вам и развития каналу! ))
Boa noite meu amigo, tenho interesse na redução cal 28/22 LR, se você tiver compro na hora peço que responda a minha pergunta.
I am not aware of anyone who make a 28 gauge to 22LR adapter. Perhaps if you were to contact Short Lane LLC you could inquire if they could make you one: www.gunadapters.com/contact-us/
Klaw nak beli di mana bleh dpat dan juai sya nk beli 1 laras
These Savage brand tubes have been out of production for many years. There are modern equivalents such as the "Gaugemate" tubes, although they are more expensive.
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Yes, I agree.
12 gauge rules
I remember shooting a grouse at close range with a 12, there was not enough left to eat, made me wish I had a smaller gun at that moment.
gauge 12 to 22 '' ????????
No, 20 gauge to .410 bore.
Dónde lo venden
These are no longer in production.
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Mp 27
IZh-27
Good!!!
But here in Brazil if you do it, Police go in your, and you'l have problema
But it,s very intersting,excuse_me
You have a problem is you do what in Brazil?
En español porfavor
I suggest you learn English if you want to watch my content.....