Appalachias Deadliest Wife: Frankie Silver
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- Appalachias Deadliest Wife The true story of Frankie Silver as told by The Appalachian Storyteller #appalachiasdeadliest
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I am the victim of a mean husband! I put up with it for 5 years and 4 months. I snapped one day, he had put me in a corner and was very mean and hurtful! Something snapped in my head and I spun him into that corner and lifted him off the floor! I told him that if he ever touched my children or me that I’d kill him! He packed up his land rover and left! I’m so great full for God removing him from us! I never married again, I got my divorce and raised my children by my self with God’s help! I’m old now and enjoying grandchildren and great grandchildren!
Bless Your Heart I too had a mean husband and my parents were alcoholics who didn’t protect me I am now 68 and still suffering from my parents neglect and a 25 year relationship with my 4 children’s dad but for God there go I I could have been Frankie. One day I just up and called it quits My children to this day are messed up cause they saw things they shouldn’t have and I stayed in the abuse too long. Feel very Blest you got out early
Physical abuse can be a tragedy and a very traumatic experience good for you turning the tables on him so he could see what his abuse was doing to you and your children 👍🏻 My ex husband was abusive also but it was mental abuse and the thing’s he said to me made me feel less then anything at all although I didn’t have your courage he did leave us in a very sneaky way he moved us to Wisconsin from Illinois because my parents lived there he stayed for a year and then came home packed his stuff as I’m asking him why and went back to Illinois moved in with his mistress and her 3 kid’s ( we have 2 ) and then they got married right after our divorce. I found out that his lawyer told him to do what he did and to make sure I’m not pregnant when he left I dated again after that and each guy left me I don’t know why which made me even more insecure I’m old now too ( 65 ) my kid’s are in their middle 40’s and I have 4 grandchildren and I’m doing ok without a man in my life I don’t have to tell anyone where I’m going what I’m doing I don’t have to tell anybody anything ( except my kids because I’m old ) Lol and it’s nice that way‼️💯👍🏻
D. Baker there are more of us out there than we know. Bless you Meet you in Heaven
God didn't remove him, you did - nothing wrong in having pride for standing up for yourself before it was too late!
If you want to, you can give your god credit for other things, like the sun shining on a cold winter day, the gentle rain on a mild spring night.
But this wasn't your god, it was you - and you deserve the credit for that....
A person can only take abuse for so long.. I'm glad that you had the strength and courage to face your demon. Bless you and your family.
My mother came from Stoneville, NC, near the end of WWII. She never heard anything about this event until reading Sharon McCrumb's book "Ballard of Frankie Silver". I have heard the old song "Frankie and Johnny" many times. However, the song has been changed by each recording artist. I have often wondered if that song was based on the story of Frankie Silver? Her husband's remains (those that were found) ended up buried in two graves; and, those graves are pictured on the hardback dust covers of Sharon McCrumbs book.
I was also an abused wife and mother of two children. However, before my husband got drunk enough to kill us, I took both children and rode a Greyhound bus back to Kentucky (and to my people). I divorced him, used my GI Bill to go to College, and took a good paying job after college. I left my ex-husband in Tennessee. I later had to move to West Virginia to hide from him and his parents. Poor Frankie was trapped. She did what she had to do. My children are now senior citizens that live in different states. The last I heard, my ex-husband is in a Nursing Home somewhere; and, his parents are dead. I never wanted to be trapped in another marriage again. I raised both children by myself with no child support; and, they both finished high school and went to college.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
My heart goes out to you.
You are obviously a beautiful soul.
What happened to the baby ?
@@MsShep55Nancy was raised by family and married a Parker. She has descendants living today. I'm a descendant of Frankie's brother Lt. Jackson R. Stewart. Franky admitted she killed Charlie in defense of Nancy & herself. Our Stewart's are fairly certain my 5th GGF Isaiah "Ice" Stewart ( Frankie's father ) and her brother Blackstone helped dispose of Charlie's remains after the fact. Incidentally; Charlie has 3 graves, not just 2, all were laid at rest as parts found remaining of him they had not burned in the cabin. As for a curse...I don't agree. Just a couple accidents with my 5th GGP's. As for Blackstone; he caused his own demise with making bad decisions.
Frankie Silver is my 3x great grandmother. I love to see this video about her. My family has always said her brother helped her, this story has kept the same in my family since the horrific day happened.
That's awesome
Howdy cousin Charlie was my 4th great grand uncle. I descend from the next oldest brother Alfred Leonard Silver!
I've lived in Burke County my whole life. I'm almost 66 years old. We studied this story in 6th grade and had to do a report. The history museum in morganton, which is in Burke County has a Frankie Silvers room. The tour guide covers this story. Very informative.
Awesome
That's a pretty gruesome story for 6th graders to do a book report on.
But then again, today's 6th graders do book reports on hero homosexuals and brave transgenders. I guess public schools have always been demented.
What were the reports’ conclusions?
I haven't heard this story in over 60 years. Well told, JD, very well told.
Thank you TennValleyGal
Frankie did what had to be done and protected her baby.
That's what Frankie said. Most axe murderers are honest too !
You were there??
Zero accountability from women,ever
Well, I tell u what, that's absolutely best mountain story I've ever heard. And the video of the cabin,snow and etc, with your voice, just blew me away....it was a memerizing tale, beautiful yet sad. Hey from South Carolina again...
Thanks so much! I filmed the cabin in a place called Cades Cove in the Smoky Mountains, and I created the snow. :)
Read The Ballad of Frankie Silvers by Sharyn McCrumb. She did lots of research on the lawyers and governor of NC at the time. Beautifully written. She also wrote about Tom Dooley.
Sir your a wonderful storyteller. Thanks for tellin Frankie’s story.
Thank you 🙏
Sharon McCrumb is one of my favorite authors she really does research her stories well
Okay. I have heard this story and it occurred nearby to where I grew up. There are many ballads and similar cases from other places, even as far away as St. Louis. The story of Frankie and Charlie Silvers happened in Mitchell County, NC (Appalachia), in a small community called Kona. The oldest residents being Silvers and the oldest home hailing back to the late 1700s (a log home that has been renovated over the years and is still lived in). Frankie "went on trial" in Burke county and was hanged there, as the courts do murder trials in nearby, but separate places to avoid bias (or in an attempt to). In this situation, Frankie Stuart was an attractive girl from a poor family and the Silvers were wealthier landowners. Hypergamy at its finest, Frankie married Charlie Silver. However, Charlie was a "cat-a-bout" (seeking love in other places) and was known to become drunken and hostile. This being the case, he beat Frankie on multiple occasions and was unfaithful. It has been told that he almost beat her to death a few times. In the version I heard, Frankie's father and brother were the ones to kill Charlie, being tired of the beating of their sister/ daughter and in fear for the wellbeing of Frankie's child. They tried to cover it up, clumsily, to start with. When that did not work, they encouraged Frankie to take the blame thinking the court system would never convict and hang a woman, especially for self defense. The court was wise to their ploy however, and convicted her anyway, hoping for a confession from Frankie or the real killers. Frankie's father encouraged her to keep quiet, for reasons unknown, and "take the truth to her grave", which unfortunately she did. Not sure why so many different versions exist or why facts get left out. My guess is that the pride that is inherent in the people here make them want to "cover" for ancestors, even hundreds of years past the event in question.
I'm from eastern North Carolina and I remember people singing the song when I was a kid.
Thank you for sharing the story - also thank you for doing it with some compassion for both victim AND perpetrator!
Thank you for noticing that!
I have lived in NC since 93 and about 2 hours from black mountain or the NC- tenn line and never heard these stories.. I really enjoy hearing these I love learning historical stories about NC ..
Thank you Tina!
I read a book some years ago. It was a tragic story of fiction about a young couple, new baby, isolated in the Morganton area when the nearby state lines were different. The isolation, alcohol, colicky baby,and postpartum depression resulted in murder. I can't say this is the same. It was a haunting read, very descriptive and vivid.
What was the book?
@@shannonsheridan5958 I have tried to remember. I'm sorry. I'll attempt to find out. I'll let you know.
@Shannon Sheridan I'm almost certain it's Sharyn McCrums book, the Ballad of Frankie Silver. I was working in a restaurant in Banner Elk around 2000. I had read the book and Mrs. McCrum was a guest one night. I had to see her name to jar the memory.
@@ericinman9245 thank you I will
find it!
I am curious too, I want to know the name of the book also. It sounds like a good read.
Excellent tale my friend. I wasn’t sure if I should mention this, but back in my family tree there had been two Holbrook boys arrive in the early 1700’s. One was my fifth or sixth great grandpa and the other was his brother. Grandpa settled in Menlo, Georgia while the other settled in Carter county, Ky on the West Virginia line. It’s quite a tale of you want to look it up. It happened not too far from the Hatfield/McCoy feud.
If you have any links to any written details, email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com
The most amazing story yet so beautifully told could listen to you all day telling stories
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That was a really good story. It's sad that domestic violence has always been💔 thank you for another very well told story❣
Thank you Mary
So, you're buying the battered wife horseshit?
Wonderful storytelling, thank you! I will say prayers for Frankie and be grateful I didn't live my life in her times.
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She needed prayers when she was alive, not now!!
Too late for prayers!
those replying to your comment are wrong. God wants us to pray, even for the little things. Even if we think it wont help. Pray. In the end, its all you have.
Poor little girl. What a horrible end. And her poor baby. ❤️
Frankie had put up with enough of her husband's abuse, and unfortunately never got to tell her side. So much for the justice system years ago. Who knows what is right or wrong in this case! Thanks for the story❣️
"who knows what is right or wrong in this case" I couldnt agree more.
The justice system hasn't really changed that much if you really watch and listen.
If HER family had been affluent she would never have been prosecuted.
@@barbaracarpenter1260 agreed
She cut her husbands body apart and burned it! That is next level crazy! Supposed abuse or not! Disgusting evil next level crap! She got what she deserved! Karma is a bitch!
@Maria No one knows for sure..don't be the judge and jury..if you were abused back in those days, you would not have any rights one way or another...Definitely was a man's world in those times.
Did she Murder him because of the abuse? Or was it Post-partum depression? A vitamin Deficiency? Was she Schizophrenic? We'll never know what went on in their lives. Truly a sad story. Thank you for sharing it.
well said my friend, we will never know for sure
She murdered him because she's a murderer.
My ex does folk ballads. His grandfather handed down his music to him in different versions and there’s a Frankie and Albert, Frankie and Johnny and several other ballads about Frankie. This is a very interesting story for sure and well told.
That's awesome luv
Once again, thank you JD, for keeping history alive.❤
Thank you Diane!
My goodness, that is one heck of a piece of history, and the truth will never be known.😞
Thank you JD.
Thank you Richard
Good bit of the truth is known. People just seem to want to carry on a mystique about it all
Frankie didn’t have a chance. She cleaned it up the best she could and had to of waited hundreds of years to be able to binge CIS marathons for help. Great story!
……. A quick edit, why would the court ever let the jury mingle during recess to talk about the case? That’s insane.
It is crazy that they were allowed to mingle- but it’s a true story
Because in the US, "justice" has never been about true justice!
And it was even worse back then!
She probably wouldn’t have had much chances if she had pleaded Self Defense either, just my guess…
😮oh my gosh thank you so much for for sharing I ❤Appalachian Story Tellers ❤️🙏from Rita🙋♀️
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller oh yeah lol being back then I don’t doubt that at all. If I was on trial, I would be pretty bummed out if I saw my jury mingling with the crowd. Especially a crowd that loves to watch a good hangin’.
@@ritasmith1127 Thank you Rita
My neck of the woods. Charlie actually had 3 graves, as it took several days to find all the body parts that didn't burn. Never understood how such a little woman could cut up a big man with only an axe.
Because she didn't do it alone,I think she had help luv
Yup he has three graves- they buried him as they found him- I believe all three graves are in the same cemetery
It’s amazing what we can do 😊
What a sad and morbid story, ... I'm taking Frankie's side... alcohol can turn people into monsters... Thanks JD 🤗❤️
im with you Kathy
Agreed luv!
Alcohol does not turn people. They are mean before they drink.
@@Mr50403 They can be mean without turning into monsters... alcohol can turn mean into psycho...imho
Where's proof of alcohol ? What if that's why she murdered him because she was drunk ? You only took her side because you women have absolutely zero accountability. You blame every single thing on others. Typical. No doubt you're a criminal.
Thank you so much for telling all of these amazingly wonderful stories. I've been binging since I discovered your channel about 1 week ago!
We are so glad you are here Melanie!
Mnt or rural people seem to have their own way of dealing with things in life. We all just do the best we can👵🏻👩🌾❣️
Good story.these hills holds lots of secrets.sad but true
Indeed my friend
Great story. I do think the family did help out Frankie to protect her from the abuse from her husband. The courts were very different back then.
You're probably right, I think they had something to do with it too
I don't think you're seeing this for what it is, even if her family did murder her husband it was not of protection because the father told her to let it die with her so they obviously didn't care about her well-being if they are willing to let her hang for a crime she didn't commit
Her husband didn't abuse her. She murdered him. She's the abuser. Ffs
Such great storytelling and production. I enjoy these videos so much!
Thank you so much!
I just found this channel today. I really love the history and I have already become a fan!!
Welcome aboard Sharon!
Charlie's daddy is my g-g- g-g-uncle, making Charlie a cousin. Story's been passed down through the generations.
Wow, very interesting. Did the story passed down believe it was the family and not Frankie as well?
@@shajnahargrove5973 I've always heard the suspicions that she had help from her family.
Karma got the guilty and I only see Frankie as a victim.
@@kevinbode6483 I have to say that if someone threatened my youngun, they wouldn't be long for this world either. So I certainly couldn't blame her.
@@josephbrandt6778 I'm sure that time and societal norms have changed feelings and theories of what happened. Most now think that she was an abused wife that got tired of it. However, there's still the belief that she didn't do it all herself. It's one of those things where the only folks that ever knew what happened went to their graves long ago.
My first husband, who turned out to still be married to his first wife, slapped me in front of all his kids.
I calmly went in the kitchen and washed my face in cool water. Then took down the biggest, sharpest knife from the knife rack. I laid it carefully on the counter and said, "If you touch me in anger one more time, I will cut your throat while you sleep and darlin', everybody's gotta go to sleep sometime." Then I put that knife between the box springs and mattress of our bed with the handle sticking out, just so he'd remember.
He never touched me with anger again and when he died, years after I left him, it was by his own hand, not mine.
Dang it man
Thank you JD for sharing this story. Seems like the jury being all male and allowed to talk about the case on breaks didn’t help Frankie’s case.
Have a blessed day!
Thank you Willow ❤️
Yeah, I thought that would be cause for a mistrial....but I guess you need a lawyer to file it & a judge to hear it.
You are a great storyteller. Thank you for sharing your gift and hard work.
Thank you Sir
Thanks TAS❤
Than k you Lana ❤
My first wife used to try to fight me all the time and hit me and pull my hair and bite me and all kinds of crap. I never saw my parents act like that so I really wasn't sure what to do about it until one day she punched me in the face for the last time and I knocked that b**** out. And I got a divorce and kept my kids and received child support. Booyah🎉
boom!
Somehow, that doesn't sound quite true.
@@Dubhain dude....that's nothing. This chick thought she was Roy Jones Jr. I didn't think it sounded so unbelievable. It sure would be silly to try to make up a lie about something so weird like that? What part is unbelievable? I wish I could send her to your house to prove what I say. 😂
I was in family court one day. A man was there, cause his wife knew judo. And he spoke, about how he was afraid, and locked himself in the bathroom from her. I'm sure, they divorced and he got a restraining order. She was the aggressor, so it seems.
Physical abuse can originate with a male or a female, just as any other abuse can.
Another fascinating story JD, albeit very sad and slightly mysterious. I love the way you tell it with the use of the amazing scenery, quaint cabins and the amazing photos of the folks of wayback. I feel that I've missed out never having visited the Appalacias which look so beautiful
Thank you 😊
Hi JD, do you think that your book will be available on Amazon? I've looked but it doesn't appear to be there at the moment. Thank you ❤
I read about her awhile back.So tragic.Thanks for sharing her story😔
So sad
This is my very favorite TH-cam channel!!
Thank you for your continued awesome work!!
Thank you so much Jordan!
Excellent story. So we’ll told ! I love the ominous music as well. Tragic tale for Frankie though. Yer voice just floors me! Thanks
Thank you so much Karen! and thanks for noticing the music! as a musician myself, I put careful thought into it :)
Great story thanks for sharing Storyteller y’all be safe and GOD BLESS
Glad you enjoyed it
Great story. Great channel.
Preciate you!
Another great story JD. I try to listen to all your stories. Being from western NC originally I bet the family helped. Just a old Marines opinion.
Thanks so much Scott!
JD i love these stories! you do a great job!
Preciate ya my friend !
Wow! What a story!
Yes ma'am, Frankies Story is a true one
Great story Thank you for sharing this. I watch all your videos Love them.
Glad you like them!
Copperhill's front and center! I been waiting on this un, J.D. Ima hoping the worlds sitting rite in your neck of the woods friend.
Preciate ya Scott, its a beautiful day here in East TN
Great story and the telling of it!
Thank you my friend!
Another good story from the mtns. Thanks for sharing
Thank you Pinky
I was a victim of domestic violence as a child & an adult. My Mom left my biological father when I was 3 yrs old. I still remember him holding a knife on us. Unfortunately I too married a violent man. I stayed too many years with him.
Frankie was protecting herself & her child. We will never know the full details of why she killed her husband ~~ hind sight she should have just left. Many women & men try to leave abusive relationships ~~ but the abuser keeps them from doing so.
Thank you JD for telling us this story!
Thank you for sharing your story my friend
Another great story JD! I'm trying to catch up on all I have missed! Lol. Thanks for all your hard work!
Thank you Joy!
As always excellent content Thank you JD🤠👍✊
Thank you Larry!
This saddens me to hear. What ever become of their child ? I hope the child was raised with love and not to blame either side , but to know all grandparents.
Check out the book a life for Nancy
Sharyn mccrumb wrote a book about Frankie silver she did an excellent job
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Wow that was some story thanks !!!😮
It sure was better keep an eye on her
Such a sad sad story.
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Frankie had no chance for justice.
Agreed
Poor Frankie....🥺
Y'all stay safe out there 🙏
You too brother
Good storyteller.
Thank you Janet!
Love this story!!!
Thank you 🙏
Thank you you're really good at telling stories I love it
Thank you Judy!
Wow 😮😮😮😮. Great story!! Ty❤
Thank you 🙏 it’s a true story, but there’s lots of different theories, and centuries have past, Frankie is viewed more as a victim in this story. Most likely - we will never know the full details
Amazing story full of anticipation but it’s your voice that’s captivating. So happy I found your channel. Blessings to everyone with health and happiness 🥰 Tom 🤔
Thank you my friend, so happy to have you here
Great story!
Thank you!
This one could be a movie.
thank you!
I know my phone can read my mind! After listening to 1&2 of Molly's story, and hearing so many others of yours..I thought..he should fo 1 on Frankie Silvers. Next morning..there it was! Ty he Ballad of Frankie Silvers" is by 1 of my favorite authors..Sharon McCrumb.😊
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My ex husband, was pretty mean to me too. He threatened to delete my life. Alot, of emotional and mental abuse, along with verbal. Thank God, he's an ex. Stayed divorced after, more than 30 years. God is good. I live in peace. No abuse.😊
God is good!
Storyteller how are you doing brother???? I’ve kinda slowed down a little bit watching videos but I’m back now.
I remember seeing this on ID. I always thought it was self-defense. What she did after he was dead was horrific, and that's probably what sealed her doom. In the end Frankie managed to get her revenge on her family, but I don't remember what happened to her baby.
There's a book about her baby called a life for Nancy
Good story I liked the legend of the curse at the end to
Thanks Tom!
Good story telling. 🙋♂️🐈🐈
Thank you 🙏
Frankie didn't have a chance! With it being the time it was and how the court treated the case!
Agreed
No she didn't, sadly luv
maybe. I know that if people started finding pieces of my husband around the property, I would probably be arrested and convicted and its 2024.
A great story another little peoce of history shared and treasured
Thanks so much Rodney, preciate you!
Wow !!!!
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Great
Thank you 🙏
Another good one.
Thank you Libby!
Because of the times, Frankie didn't have a chance at a fair trial. Didn't Tom Dooley happen here in NC also?
Yes That happened in Wilkes County where I live
I think that if today, people found remains of my husband in the fireplace, I would probably be convicted too.
Good one,....
Thank ya!
Really enjoyed that and yes I believe she could have
I’ve never heard this one. Thank you. I’m in Blue Ridge Township and am slowly enjoying your content.
Hope you enjoy it! Glad to have you here!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller thank you. I shared it with my father, who remembers some of the stories by Hart. He enjoys it as well. Thank you !
@@janellejanjan awesome!
Glad to see that someone is shedding life on the violence women commit on men
It certainly happens both ways
Uhm, she killed him after many years of abuse. He got what was coming to him. I am a family member and Charlie was an evil man.
Yea most of us stay in abusive relationships and have no faith in the system. Cause of stuff like poor Frankie went through... I made him my ex. Left. He called me up 6 months later and told me bs. I believed him. Only to find out he was with another woman and now, here I sit, still at the house and have to watch him and her in the bed I used to share with him... That's enough to drive a woman to murder. He needs to be killed. But he aint even worth a bullet. So I stay till I can find another place to move to. Thank you for that story JD. You can sure tell some good ones 💀🦴🙏🩷🩷🩷.
wow!
dude. Get off the drugs. You have to get away from the people who do them or you will always go back. You ARE worthy of Gods love, He loves you now and is waiting for you. With His help, you can do this!
My ex-wife was a narcissist, and there were many times I wanted to murder her. Closest I came was to say to her: "If you were to die I wouldn't miss you at all."
Dang it man
🤠 LET THIS BE A LESSON TO ALL WIFE BEATERS.
So glad her uncle had the wherewithal to state that, "Her name was Tom." 🤦
Right??? 😂
That happened in my hometown
how bout that!
She was my granny Gouges kin folk .I live about 20minutes from where Charlie's graves are...it was a terrible thing but I hear she was cheated on and beat on cause back then women weren't taken on like a partner but more a worker and child beater
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Appalachian story teller you need to come to my neck of the woods for stories .sum make your heart sink ...
In 1833 the place where they lived “Kona” was in Burke County but now it is in Mitchell County.
You are correct, sir
I read her husband was having an affair and was abusing her. She was more victim and that her father and brother killed him.
It is suspected he was a ladies man and her family was, at least, in on the killing
What a story 😊
Yes sir
Great story.
Thank you so much my friend
Today it would be self defense she didn't stand a chance back in those days 😢😢😢
Agreed
"Big as a hog's liver" is my new favorite phrase
yup, folks had completely different phrases in 200 years ago
Good evening new subscriber here hope you had a great Easter God bless you honey thank you for the stories❤
Thank you ma’am and welcome !
This happened in what is now Mitchell County, NC. In NC, new counties have been created and county borders have changed since 1831. I’ve been by the old home, it evoked a strange feeling.
wow! thanks for sharing, ive never been there, saw it was up for sale recently?
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller I haven’t been by in a while, and I’m not sure about the sale status, although I believe it was for sale about 5 years ago. Keep up the good work sir, we appreciate you!
“For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.”
Her family definitely helped her
Probably right
Tragic story!
It really is
So the men are sitting around eating breakfast when one sees bones in the fireplace. Another sees blood on the walls and under the floor. The begs the question. Did Frankie just feed Charlie to the men?
Witch hunt.
@@taomidwifery-oxygencourse3283 where? I got my pitchfork