Backwards Scope Photo Got US Navy CO FIRED!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- The viral image of the US Navy CO shooting a rifle with a backwards scope recently gets fired for “loss of confidence”. This is a bad look on him, but also for those that let it happen.
Not gonna lie... the navy in the last 4 years got me wanting to switch jobs or branches all together.
scope is the Trijicon VCOG recently issued in the last few years
Looking backwards through a scope will immediately let you know something is wrong, LOL.
Tactical chicken wing, trijicon vcog on backwards, improper stock placement.
Good optic, bad mounting. He should’ve rehearsed this first. The cameraman is also a clown.
Reckon the guy behind is telling the shooter to check his scope because he's missing the boat load of murderous pirates by 100 yds and is hitting the naval support teams rubber duck. There are many behind the scenes people who haven't a clue who they're doing such as the person that mounted the scope.
Exactly. That still baffles me
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Back around the time o Tailhook although I wasn't Navy I had an office in FOB2 (which was then the Navy BUPERS building). Going to the cafeteria there was often interesting. I got to see a lot of Navy people who one way or another had come to the attention of the social media of the time (papers, TV, radio)). Both the greats and the not so greats. Observed demeanor ran the gamut from normal to pretty unhappy. There were a lot of great people grabbing a bite there who should have been getting media attention, but somehow the ones who had really screwed up were the ones the media focused on. Run down a list of names of folk who were Navy famous or infamous in the 90s, I probably saw them in that cafeteria at least once. I saw a fair number of COs who were losing a command because of something happening on or too their ship. Although I personally thought (and to some degree still do) find it a little unfair to hold someone asleep in their own quarters for something that happens while they are asleep, such was and is the Navy way.
I am willing to consider the possibility the CO with the rifle was set up, perhaps by his own XO, by someone who didn't want him in that position. If so then giving him the backwards scope rifle for the photo op was an intentional act of slow, career ending, w malice. Did a SAMI actually hand the rifle in that condition to the CO, or was it picked up by someone else who altered the scope position before handing it to the CO? ;Here sir, use this one.' No doubt there is some NIS type checking the same suspicion.
I remember the decision to drop weapons and basic combat training from Navy Basic and I personally thought it was a terrible decision, and I still do. I have total agreement that on ship it would only become relevant if the ship was boarded by hostiles, and that can't possibly happen, right? (sarcasm).
But let's check history. Durn few alive remember a time when the Philippines was a US possession and the US had more sailors and dependents there than it had ships to carry them away with. In the early 1970s I worked with a man who as a teenager had joined the US Army and had been sent to the Philippines in early 1941. Surrendered by General Wainwright at Corregidor he and many others did the long march. He fell out as many did and was bayoneted twice and left for dead. He survived. Before moving from Bataan to Corregidor he had fought alongside a lot of USN people who had been abandoned by the USN. The BAR may have been new to them, but they certainly knew how to load a rifle or work a 1917 MG. In today's world those USN people would be a little less usable.
I understand the economic thinking behind a decision to make Basic training more about marching, drill and ceremonies and that there is no need to waste time and money teaching every new recruit how to work an AR, clean it and maneuver while under fire. A fortune is ammo costs saved. The firing range is no longer needed and can be sold off to friendly Real Estate speculators. The training time can be reduced by the number of days (or weeks) previously spent on such frivolity.
Both the USAF and the USN have fallen into that trap. So far we mostly get away with it. There was another trap the US Army is only now crawling out from under (thanks mostly to drone warfare). Until fairly recently the Army had a doctrine that there was no need for long range air defense because the USAF would always be overhead to neutralize airborne threats. The 40mm Bofors on an M24 chassis was replaced by a few Stingers and anything you couldn't hit with that rock would be done by the AF. Ukraine and Lancet drones are a glass of cold water to the face of some planners and forced some rethinking. The army is finally moving to having it's own organic mid range AA capability and long range capability is not far behind. Something similar with trench warfare which some folk had thought was stone age, but are now scrambling to find and reprint and update the post WWI manuals on the best way to construct a defensive trench.
When you are clearing buildings, you will have a team member in contact with you, either their elbow against your side, or their hand on your shoulder. If I have to explain why, then I don't think this crowd is worthy of my time...
I meet with AWR1 Adam sheafer Thursday for my pst for airr on Thursday super stoked
Fake picture there are no mounting rings on the scope, is the scope welded to the mount this is BS.
Zoom in on the scope there are no rings Da especially where the scope is mounted under the turrets, that scope was photo shopped on there
Hopefully those chicken wings are honey BBQ..
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Navy demotes Chief grisel Marrero for illegal starlink this guy is relieved for a photo op... idk man
It is doctored as evidenced by lack of scope rings...
No telling with that crowd
the trijicon vcog is one with its mount hence the lack of rings, it's built into the mount as one piece.
The Trijicon VCOG has the entire scope and mounting system forged of one piece of 7075 Aluminum, therefore it doesn't use scope rings (a 19th century technology), which makes it a more durable optic, with less parts. The mounting plate at the bottom can be swapped out as needed.
The eye relief distance is determined by the scope. You may want to be 6" inches away, but if the scope's eye relief is only 3", then you are out of luck. You will be closer.
True.
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AW, AWR and AWS. Naval Aircrewman
@@PhDarien Cool cool. Let me ask you a question. You said you were an ESAMI, right? Do you instruct seabees by chance? I 've been thinking about signing up to be a seabee and I was curious of how much shooting and combat training they get and how far they are shooting. Is it on par with what the army does in basic? I mean I suppose the job description is more important than how much training they get in C school, but you know, just wondering.
Good question. I cannot answer for every Seabee or sailor for that matter, but it depends on the unit you go to. I was an ESAMI. It belongs to the expeditionary units or commands. It’s up to each ESAMI to determine what type of training you receive. If you shoot a lot on your own and are a good shot, you can get the schools easier and be on the navy’s shooting team like a few friends of mine.
As far as the Army goes, I’m not sure what they do exactly.
@@PhDarien I appreciate the answer and I really appreciate how prompt and thorough it was. I did not know that the navy had schools for shooting other than the training in c school. I'm a pretty decent shot right now. I can shoot 1/2 MOA to 1.5 MOA with my hunting rifle with 10x scope pretty consistently and about 2-4 MOA with my AR-15 with a red dot pretty consistently. I haven't shot with iron sights in a long time so I couldn't tell you what I shoot with those. Probably worse than with a red dot though, right? I'll be joining the reserves because I'm old and I'll feel weird doing the active duty lifestyle around people in their early 20s, so maybe that sort of thing wouldn't be available to me anyways? Appreciate your input man.
@@PhDarien oh sorry can I ask you what these other schools are?