Today I'm getting a quote from electrician for the smart home panel. I'll be showing this video to the electrician. Your videos help me so much with a lot of projects. Do you think the delta pro and all the optional add on are better than a whole home generac.
We have used the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
That’s cool, but expensive at $1500 plus $500-$1000 installation. I added a Reliance manual 10-circuit switch between my circuit breaker panel and my Bluetti AC300. The AC300 has “instant” UPS switchover, so uninterrupted power is the result. But I keep only one circuit (refrigerator) on the AC300, and then add more circuits as needed during an outage. I plan to add solar to AC300, and then I will switch over more circuits to UPS and program the AC300 and number of circuits to closely match my solar production.
Nice review. I'm building a tiny home and this might be the best solution for my power needs. The Alp propane generator that you reviewed awhile back will be the backup to my solar generator. Thanks a bunch for all the time you put into your reviews! It sure has saved me time and money.
Maybe my math is off, but unless your house does not have access to propane or natural gas, this setup (with 4 ecoflow pros) is a significantly more expensive backup power solution than any portable or standy generator. Not even talking about the fact that 2 ecoflow pro’s have 7000 watt capacity for about an hour. That is not much. Also if someone truly only use it for home backup, highly unlikely these batteries can last over 6-7 years. But again, maybe my math is off
In the past 10 yrs we have had several power outages that lasted between 1 and 3 days, and the most recent outage was over 3 days. I don't think this Ecoflow setup would have been able to power our necessary appliances, lights, TV, computers, monitors, modem, router, etc that long. I think Ecoflow, Jackery, Bluetti etc are good for shorter power outages (less than 24 hrs) and smaller homes with less people. But gas generators are noisy/smelly (plus you have to leave a door/window open to run the cords through, which might not be safe depending on the crime rate in your area), and whole-house generators are too expensive for us. So we use our Jackery portable power stations when the power goes out initially, then switch over to gas generators when it becomes obvious that power won't be restored before their batteries run out. But I'm looking into getting one Delta Pro for our 2 refrigerators & chest freezer though since it might provide enough power for them to get through most of our shorter power outages. I'm basically looking at these portable power stations as a way to delay having to go through the trouble of getting our 2 gas generators running and then running extension cords through an open door or window.
It depends on what you're prepping for, short-term brownouts on one end of the scale, all the way up to long-term SHTF events at the other end of the scale. For a long-term SHTF event, such as a prolonged electrical grid failure, how long do you believe the natural gas and / or propane reserves to run your generators will last? When these gas sources fail, or if they fail simultaneously with the grid, how long do you have with your generators? Till fuel runs out, of course. These ecoflows aren't my top choice, but please understand that part of their expense lies in the fact that they offer flexibility and expandability. One could order such a package just to act as a battery backup unit, but then when you add solar later on it, it simply plugs right in. That simple. Or it can be charged by your generator, or when the grid turns back on. Again, not my top choice, but from various reviews with complete tear down and analysis of components, along with benchmark and burden testing, it seems line a very good product. If you knew how to build your own could you do the same thing for far cheaper? Of course.
You are missing the point. The ATS would give you enough time to get your generator running. You can manually transfer from utility power and start using your UPS. The batteries won't last you too long but enough to get by. But if you want more time than get more batteries!
All I can say is that the Delta Pro is one of the best power stations I have ever purchased, I compared this with the EP500 but the Delta Pro is better in a lot of ways. Fast AC wall charging, connectivity and the option to charge it in an EV charging station.
Enjoyed watching your videos. Help me think about something. Using the pro and the smart home panel I am wanting to see if I can charge it with 4 x 400w = 1600w. The thought process I have is to use series and parallel in order to stay under the 150 v max. Please let me know if you have any videos on this topic and/or if you know of any reason why it would not work. Thanks so much.
Thank you so much for the steady stream of incredibly useful content - to the point, no click bait, solid reviews. Question: can this battery and ecoflow setup be used as an intermediary between when power is lost and the time it takes (usually 5 minutes) for a while home backup generator to kick in? Basically, Would a generator automatic transfer switch be able to be thrown into the mix safely? Thanks!
That’s exactly what the Smart Home Panel does amongst other things. It acts as an automatic transfer switch when the power goes out. No need to purchase additional equipment. My Smart home panel arrives today! 😊 Update: It all installed. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Solid review. Thank you. When powering major appliances like water heater, stoves, washer/dryer etc., would I need 2 x Delta Pros or 1 Delta Pro + 1 Battery and does this smart home panel come with a 30 Amp breaker?
That is one pretty good review of the Delta Pro. One of the reasons why I got the Delta Pro is the option to increase the capacity to a whopping 25kWh.
I am extremely interested in eco Flow along with wall panel connected to breaker. Not much work to connect eco flow without basement. We believe we need 2 unfortunately since we need 4 k watts to run home Well system that will not run with power outage. We have had at least 50 outages plus in a 5 plus yr new home built from ground up. So we are looking at 7k to 8k plus to install with panel. How long will eco flow run with fridge, well, wifi set up, to rooms to run while working from home? We have a 2 story 3k Sq ft home.
I was supposed to get a Honda gas generator but after watching your video. All I can say is that I am sold on the Delta Pro. especially with the solar charging capacbility which means free energy.
As nice of a unit this is, you better get that Honda generator as a backup. Our DP got hit with a power surge, while using it in EPS mode. It got damage and was useless. (Good thing we have a Tri-fuel generator) We received a new unit from Ecoflow at no cost to us, but that took a week. A gas generator is just more dependable if maintained and less to go wrong with it, then these high tec. power stations.
Any chance I can ask you a few question on the install of the Smart Home Panel? Our Electrian installed ours but we have run into a problem. Two Delta Pros running split phase set up. Thanks
Nice video. It's a nice idea but unless your already committed to the ecofloe system, have parts that you can actually replace in the event of failure seems critical. Mailing this to service a failed component means mailing 60 pounds of batteries to do any work. At least get a system that keeps the batteries and the electronics separated so service or even replacement is manageable. The ecoflow devices and similar are great but they come with a liability. It would be nice if you could drop the batteries out easily
Where I work we have a Generac Whole House Generator with an automatic transfer switch, it's NOT 1-2 Minutes, it's about 15 seconds from power outage to generator running and supplying power, for that gap we have UPS's sized just large enough to handle enough wattage to keep the desktop, router and modem powered up. personally I want battery so it can charge on solar and I can build out a Solar setup in time.
Question, can I add more batteries to give my home power for 7 days? And can I put solar panels on my roof to help charge the batteries during an extended bln out? Basically I'm trying to ensure my family is unaffected during a power outage. We have a gas water heater, gas furnace, deep freezer, one refrigerator, gas stove, central air, a microwave/deep fryer, and 3 flat screen tvs, 2 gaming systems and my home office which features 2 monitors and a laptop, and our wifi setup and 5 surveillance cameras.
How does EcoFlow Generators and EcoFlow Pro Generators with lithum batteries and Ecoflow Smart Panel do in HEAT like the Hot weather in Phoenix AZ today is 112 degree ?
My brother is an electrician and also installed a Generac. He showed me how it worked and yes switchover is measured in a few seconds not 2 minutes. That being said for all of my expensive electronics I install APC battery backups to deal w/ brownouts and dirty power. So while there is a 5-10 sec switchover, having the power conditioner / battery backups in place will save your electronics.
Our Generac 22KW Generator only takes 10 Seconds to provide power to our house. I just wanted to say since you said minutes at 4:00 unless I misunderstood.
When is this going to be available in Canada. Or is there an alternative that we can use in Canada that does the same thing and the switchover is instant (nearly UPS) and automatic?
So I can use my manual transfer switch by disconnecting my portable gasoline generator and plugging in the Ecoflow Delta Pro to the outlet to the manual transfer switch? I don't need an automatic function.
Is the smart home panel worth what it costs? I've heard that there are many panels which would do the same thing for a fraction of the cost. I do own an E.D.Pro..but my electrical panel is not ready for any kind of backup system. I'd be willing to switch it on manually if it meant saving hundreds of dollars.
Can you Incorporate the Ecoflow dual fuel Smart Generator into this setup? That would make it Perfect, with being able to have the Main Propane tank on the property setup with the Smart Generator, which will always be keeping the Batteries Filled as needed, without having the Generator constantly running.
@@whattheschmidt , that's definitely a possibility. Doesn't quite work for me, I would need about 30' of power cable, and I don't think they make one that long yet.
I would like to know how long it will last if average usage. If it will not last at least 12 to 24 hours seems to be a waste. But I do like the fact you hired an electrician .
Can this be used with an existing transfer switch? Is one sufficient to use as back up for the heating system? How long would it run? Like that it automatically switches on. I have a generac generator (gasoline) outside in a storage unit with a transfer switch.If the weather is bad, who wants to go outside to start it?
I'll try and answer your questions: 1) Depends on the kind of transfer switch. We have a 6 and 10 circuit manual transfer switch. I bought two adaptor plugs. A 30 amp. RV plug and Household (2) 5-15 Plug Male to Generator Twist Lock L14-30 Receptacle Female Y Adapter Cord. 2 & 3) Our DP can power our HVAC system, along with all other circuit needed, for about 4 hrs. 4) I know what you mean, but here's the thing. Something is bond to go wrong with this system, that you can't fix. Better figure out a way to maybe set up your generator, before you need it. So, all you have to do is turn it on when needed. Our DP got damaged from a power surge, from the Utility company, during a bad thunderstorm. We couldn't even use it. We do have a tri-fuel generator that we could have used as a backup. People are putting too much trust in these devices, that really haven't shown to be as reliable, as a gas generator.
Would it work both ways? I want to run certain circuits on non grid tie solar, and have it switch back to the grid if the ecoflow gets low on battery from solar.?. Great video! Thank you!
Can I use delta pro along with the main grid? Power the house untill bateries run out or go to specific % then main power runs the house. I see this marketed as home backup but that use case is rare in my area. I want a solar system that can power the house. This seems to be the hardest part of figuring out how to power mains with batteries/solar setups.
I have the same question. Can you charge up the ecoflow units using say portable panels, then plug those into the Smart Home Panel, choose what you want to power - then have the unit switch back over to the grid once the batteries drain. Rinse, repeat.
Is it possible to run on solar when the batteries are nearly topped off while having grid power? Would be nice to take advantage of the 1600W solar capacity per Delta Pro while the sun’s out and save some money on grid power
As a general rule, treat this power source as you would if you were on your generator, that is to say, it is far, FAR weaker than the power you receive from your main line. So when on battery (or generator) power, DO NOT use appliances that generate heat or else you risk tripping the switch, unless you have a alternate power source that rivals your main line. For example, most homes have 100A services to the house spread across 110v and 220v. The key is the 100A. For example, to simplify, if your house runs only 110V appliances, then 110V multiplied by 100A gives 11,000 volt-amps, or 11,000 watts. So if your battery/generator can supply 1.1kWh continuously, then it is just as powerful as your main line and you can run whatever you want. Otherwise, with a power source of a typical 5,000W generator, that means, NO hair dryers, NO clothes dryers, NO ovens (toaster or otherwise), and NO electric water heaters. There are numerous kilowatt calculators online where you can get a summary of your electrical budget to use when sizing a generator. Same deal with this battery system under review. Nothing new under the sun.
Can this solution help with powering the whole home for several days a week 12-15 days a month? Our pg&e bill per wattage out here in California is outrageous and am looking for off-grid solutions to work along with my solar system
I know they say 3000 cycles before they don’t get 100 percent charge or degrade but as a daily use to lower energy costs bu Charging them every day at night like on an ev rate how many times can they cycle really?
Not very long. Without all the extra batteries and buttload of solar panels to recharge it you're still going to need some kind of generator or the power needs to come back on... Somebody says you need a 20 kW generator. Well this is a 7.2 KW setup. So it's approximately 1/3 of the size of the 20 kW generator. Generac systems are great. They're not cheap. And they definitely will oversize your unit so you can't complain you don't have enough power. No one can answer these questions. You might have a two-story house with dual air conditioners. Or you might have a little two bedroom house with window units. All in all these batteries in a box are great for portable power or for very short-term power outages.
@@williamkn621 My comments are based around this thing won't do what it is being claimed to do. I have my own situation solved months ago. If I was relying on this set up I think I'd be in mega trouble.
@SilverCymbal - I've read in other threads where the EcoFlow home panel is installed, they are losing battery power slowly over a period of days (its not keeping a charge).. have you seen this happen in this install at your buddys place?
I haven't heard that but he has chosen to keep his in online mode so when the power goes out nothing goes off. He just had an outage and was thrilled how this worked. But maybe if it was in offline mode it would have that issue?
@@SilverCymbal thanks for the quick response. Would be good to test perhaps. That said, I think this is something that one would want in online mode all the time - I know I would! BTW I read that in the TH-cam thread on another EcoFlow home panel video. Was curious if it was a bug, as Im either pulling the trigger on an Ecoflow or Zender system myself. cheers.
You can just leave the smart home panel and take the batteries with you. Put a panel in the next home. Paying to remove all that work would be too wasteful imo.
Heat - definitely (natural gas? propane furnace?). A/C probably with 2 batteries, yes, but it will be using a lot of power and not run the A/C too long.
Excellent and Informative Video! ....1 additional question...Will this be able to power a 3.5 ton house A/C unit? As I would like to do a setup like this as my power backup. Thanks!
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EcoFlow has a smart generator that does exactly that. It will automatically start and charge the batteries when they get low. I just order my system with the smart generator. Also, don’t forget that they batteries can be hooked up to solar panels. The system has pass through charging so you generate energy and use it at the same time. When my ecoflow system is complete it will have batteries, solar and a smart generator.
EcoFlow has a smart generator that does exactly that. It will automatically start and charge the batteries when they get low. I just order my system with the smart generator. Also, don’t forget that they batteries can be hooked up to solar panels. The system has pass through charging so you generate energy and use it at the same time. When my ecoflow system is complete it will have batteries, solar and a smart generator.
I’m guessing it’s the fact that you don’t pick circuits with Powerwall systems. We don’t install them here in MA with critical load panels similar to what is shown in the video. Almost every install we back up the entire house. If we dont back up the entire house, the number one item we load shed is the AC condenser if the LRA/RLA is too high. You also have to take into consideration how many Powerwalls you are purchasing when it comes to those larger loads.
like that this is inline but contrary to the video's description it will NOT power the "ENTIRE" house; at 1:57 "now this panel will not power every single thing in your house, you've got to pick UP TO 10 circuits".. Do be careful when doing anything w/electricity. My personal rule: If in doubt, it ALL goes out at the panel, at the meter. Even then...still test those lines
Love my SHP but really confused as to why it drains both my Delta Pros slowly over time. After a month of being connected, more than 30% of my battery capacity has been drained with zero power outages or other events that would cause the batteries to be required. Leaving the batteries disconnected from the SHP “solves” the problem for me but obviously is non ideal. My best guess is that when the Delta Pros are connected, they never timeout and for some reason are pulling power from themselves vs the grid to provide connectivity.
@@TheBsEr Yes. It seems we have two options. 1) Manually trigger the charge via the app or 2) Set a rule to auto recharge after a certain level is passed. I just did another test where I charged up the batteries to 100%, left them both physically connected to the SHP but turned one of the AC ports off and EPS (the super fast fail over) off as well. The result after 14 days with zero power outages was 43% drain on one Delta Pro and 26% on the other. I then charged them both back up to 100%, physically unpluged them from the SHP and waited. It's only been 7 days so far but both Delta Pro's are still at 100% charge. The only thing I can figure is that when they are plugged into the SHP, the batteries never turn off. In the app you can see how the timeout (which I've set to 30 mins... the lowest setting) switches to "Never" and you can't change it. It's REALLY weird that it would draw power from the batteries to stay on and even more weird that there's that much power drain over 2 weeks just to keep the wifi or whatever on.
@@thatcreole9913 thank you! Sorry another quick question, are your batteries hooked up to 30amp breakers through the SHP? I dont think my are and when I tried to turn on Recharge, it just turns back to off right away. I tried turning off fast charge on the batteries and still seem to happen
Thanks for the review on this... I hadn't seen anything on the power panel on TH-cam at all. Do you know if the power panel requires two EcoFlows or could I get started with panel and one before getting a 2nd? I realize I can't get 240 until I have the two, but still be nice for 120 house backup.
You can use just one DP. You have to remember though; the smart home panel will only work with a DP. If your DP has issues, guess what, no power to those circuits and you can't use a generator to connect to the Smart Home Panel. A smarter solution would be to install a 10-circuit manual transfer switch. This way, you can power those ten circuits, with a portable generator and/or a DP. We have this set up and it works great. You will need a changeover switch to switch between the generator and power station. Our DP powers everything in our house, minus the central air. When the DP needs charging, we run our generator to recharge it., in less than 3 hrs. We can still provide power to our entire house, plus the central air, if needed.
@@Pk3_Garage yeah I thought about that but I like that the smart panel provides instant switchover. I know it's kind of just a "first world problem" since during an extended outage (which isn't that often for me) to go down and hook it up.
Actually, once everything is hooked up, just leave everything plugged in. When you suspect a power outage, turn on the DP, flip the switches to Gen and your good to go. The DP has an EPS mode (Emergency Power Supply) that works like an UPS. It switches over to battery power within 30ms. It works very. Just make sure you have a whole house and single outlet surge protector. Our DP was damaged during a thunderstorm, while using it in EPS mode because of a power surge when the utility power came back on.
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Today I'm getting a quote from electrician for the smart home panel. I'll be showing this video to the electrician. Your videos help me so much with a lot of projects.
Do you think the delta pro and all the optional add on are better than a whole home generac.
We have used the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
That’s cool, but expensive at $1500 plus $500-$1000 installation. I added a Reliance manual 10-circuit switch between my circuit breaker panel and my Bluetti AC300. The AC300 has “instant” UPS switchover, so uninterrupted power is the result. But I keep only one circuit (refrigerator) on the AC300, and then add more circuits as needed during an outage. I plan to add solar to AC300, and then I will switch over more circuits to UPS and program the AC300 and number of circuits to closely match my solar production.
Nice review. I'm building a tiny home and this might be the best solution for my power needs. The Alp propane generator that you reviewed awhile back will be the backup to my solar generator. Thanks a bunch for all the time you put into your reviews! It sure has saved me time and money.
Im doing this as we speak with a gas generator. Wish i went propane 😅
perfect exactly what i was looking for thank you. Now to see how this lines up for the UK household installation.
I am a pediatric nurse. I am forwarding this video because people who need power to live (ventilator dependent, etc) need these.
Thanks for the review of the Delta Pro. With 3600Wh of capacity I'm sure it can power or charge a lot of appliances and gadgets at home.
Another terrific video. Thank you
Maybe my math is off, but unless your house does not have access to propane or natural gas, this setup (with 4 ecoflow pros) is a significantly more expensive backup power solution than any portable or standy generator. Not even talking about the fact that 2 ecoflow pro’s have 7000 watt capacity for about an hour. That is not much. Also if someone truly only use it for home backup, highly unlikely these batteries can last over 6-7 years. But again, maybe my math is off
In the past 10 yrs we have had several power outages that lasted between 1 and 3 days, and the most recent outage was over 3 days. I don't think this Ecoflow setup would have been able to power our necessary appliances, lights, TV, computers, monitors, modem, router, etc that long. I think Ecoflow, Jackery, Bluetti etc are good for shorter power outages (less than 24 hrs) and smaller homes with less people. But gas generators are noisy/smelly (plus you have to leave a door/window open to run the cords through, which might not be safe depending on the crime rate in your area), and whole-house generators are too expensive for us. So we use our Jackery portable power stations when the power goes out initially, then switch over to gas generators when it becomes obvious that power won't be restored before their batteries run out. But I'm looking into getting one Delta Pro for our 2 refrigerators & chest freezer though since it might provide enough power for them to get through most of our shorter power outages. I'm basically looking at these portable power stations as a way to delay having to go through the trouble of getting our 2 gas generators running and then running extension cords through an open door or window.
@@martinafan64 I have an inverter generator, looking to find a UPS type battery backup to keep the heat on.
It depends on what you're prepping for, short-term brownouts on one end of the scale, all the way up to long-term SHTF events at the other end of the scale. For a long-term SHTF event, such as a prolonged electrical grid failure, how long do you believe the natural gas and / or propane reserves to run your generators will last? When these gas sources fail, or if they fail simultaneously with the grid, how long do you have with your generators? Till fuel runs out, of course. These ecoflows aren't my top choice, but please understand that part of their expense lies in the fact that they offer flexibility and expandability. One could order such a package just to act as a battery backup unit, but then when you add solar later on it, it simply plugs right in. That simple. Or it can be charged by your generator, or when the grid turns back on. Again, not my top choice, but from various reviews with complete tear down and analysis of components, along with benchmark and burden testing, it seems line a very good product. If you knew how to build your own could you do the same thing for far cheaper? Of course.
@@danlux4954 depending on how you heat your house it's probably best to stick with that generator
You are missing the point. The ATS would give you enough time to get your generator running. You can manually transfer from utility power and start using your UPS.
The batteries won't last you too long but enough to get by. But if you want more time than get more batteries!
All I can say is that the Delta Pro is one of the best power stations I have ever purchased, I compared this with the EP500 but the Delta Pro is better in a lot of ways. Fast AC wall charging, connectivity and the option to charge it in an EV charging station.
Enjoyed watching your videos. Help me think about something. Using the pro and the smart home panel I am wanting to see if I can charge it with 4 x 400w = 1600w. The thought process I have is to use series and parallel in order to stay under the 150 v max. Please let me know if you have any videos on this topic and/or if you know of any reason why it would not work. Thanks so much.
Thank you for making a video about this. I was curious to see this in action
Are you able to do a 1 or 2 months later review with this system. Pro's con's and maybe energy bill saving options.
Thanks in advance 👍⚡👍
Great video lad for sure!
Nice video and equally nice comment section.
Nice video. I just purchased a Zendure Superbase V. I want to do something similar
Hey silver thanks for another great video as always!
Much appreciated
I would agree that the Delta Pro has been a best seller. Due to its portability, fast charging, large capacity and ease of use.
Great info. Thank you
Hi There. Nice tutorial. Thank you . Question here. Can Smart panel be connected only with DELTA PRO or Also with DELTA MAX ? Thank you in advance.
Thank you so much for the steady stream of incredibly useful content - to the point, no click bait, solid reviews. Question: can this battery and ecoflow setup be used as an intermediary between when power is lost and the time it takes (usually 5 minutes) for a while home backup generator to kick in? Basically, Would a generator automatic transfer switch be able to be thrown into the mix safely? Thanks!
That’s exactly what the Smart Home Panel does amongst other things. It acts as an automatic transfer switch when the power goes out. No need to purchase additional equipment. My Smart home panel arrives today! 😊
Update: It all installed. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Most likely not. I don't think the NEC would allow two different power sources and two transfer switches to be used.
When I have some spare cash I am gonna look into these. Get a nice foldable solar panels and you could power large appliances during peak use
Ecoflow is cranking out some innovative products these days.
Solid review. Thank you. When powering major appliances like water heater, stoves, washer/dryer etc., would I need 2 x Delta Pros or 1 Delta Pro + 1 Battery and does this smart home panel come with a 30 Amp breaker?
I've been debating about getting one of these but need to pick up another Delta pro. Can you hook up one Delta pro to a transfer switch?
That is one pretty good review of the Delta Pro. One of the reasons why I got the Delta Pro is the option to increase the capacity to a whopping 25kWh.
Kinda misleading. the 25kWh is when combined with 2 gas generators. The system he has with 2 pro and 4 batteries only give him a max of 21.6kwh.
What sort of wires/cables did you use to make the long extension?
You are living my dreams
I am extremely interested in eco Flow along with wall panel connected to breaker. Not much work to connect eco flow without basement. We believe we need 2 unfortunately since we need 4 k watts to run home Well system that will not run with power outage.
We have had at least 50 outages plus in a 5 plus yr new home built from ground up. So we are looking at 7k to 8k plus to install with panel.
How long will eco flow run with fridge, well, wifi set up, to rooms to run while working from home? We have a 2 story 3k Sq ft home.
Does it turn off the house panel circuits so there is no back charge up to the pole?
I was supposed to get a Honda gas generator but after watching your video. All I can say is that I am sold on the Delta Pro. especially with the solar charging capacbility which means free energy.
As nice of a unit this is, you better get that Honda generator as a backup. Our DP got hit with a power surge, while using it in EPS mode. It got damage and was useless. (Good thing we have a Tri-fuel generator) We received a new unit from Ecoflow at no cost to us, but that took a week.
A gas generator is just more dependable if maintained and less to go wrong with it, then these high tec. power stations.
Any chance I can ask you a few question on the install of the Smart Home Panel? Our Electrian installed ours but we have run into a problem. Two Delta Pros running split phase set up. Thanks
Lots of power lots of money. You get what you pay for. Thanks for sharing!
Nice video. It's a nice idea but unless your already committed to the ecofloe system, have parts that you can actually replace in the event of failure seems critical. Mailing this to service a failed component means mailing 60 pounds of batteries to do any work. At least get a system that keeps the batteries and the electronics separated so service or even replacement is manageable.
The ecoflow devices and similar are great but they come with a liability. It would be nice if you could drop the batteries out easily
Where I work we have a Generac Whole House Generator with an automatic transfer switch, it's NOT 1-2 Minutes, it's about 15 seconds from power outage to generator running and supplying power, for that gap we have UPS's sized just large enough to handle enough wattage to keep the desktop, router and modem powered up. personally I want battery so it can charge on solar and I can build out a Solar setup in time.
Question, can I add more batteries to give my home power for 7 days? And can I put solar panels on my roof to help charge the batteries during an extended bln out? Basically I'm trying to ensure my family is unaffected during a power outage. We have a gas water heater, gas furnace, deep freezer, one refrigerator, gas stove, central air, a microwave/deep fryer, and 3 flat screen tvs, 2 gaming systems and my home office which features 2 monitors and a laptop, and our wifi setup and 5 surveillance cameras.
That’s great you made this video 👍 i have that system in boxes to unpack 😅
How does EcoFlow Generators and EcoFlow Pro Generators with lithum batteries and Ecoflow Smart Panel do in HEAT like the Hot weather in Phoenix AZ today is 112 degree ?
My whole home 22kw Generac will power everything up within 5-10 seconds, I wouldn’t say minutes. That being said, this is still pretty darn cool.
My brother is an electrician and also installed a Generac. He showed me how it worked and yes switchover is measured in a few seconds not 2 minutes. That being said for all of my expensive electronics I install APC battery backups to deal w/ brownouts and dirty power. So while there is a 5-10 sec switchover, having the power conditioner / battery backups in place will save your electronics.
My General switches over in seconds as well
@ about 12-15 dollars a hour
Hurricane season is coming up in my area...I'll look into that. Thanks.
Yup. SW FL here 👍
Would one of these power a furnace? Just heat cycle, not AC.
Our Generac 22KW Generator only takes 10 Seconds to provide power to our house. I just wanted to say since you said minutes at 4:00 unless I misunderstood.
Thank you
When is this going to be available in Canada. Or is there an alternative that we can use in Canada that does the same thing and the switchover is instant (nearly UPS) and automatic?
Does this even more sense when living in an area that doesn’t have gas for anything?
So I can use my manual transfer switch by disconnecting my portable gasoline generator and plugging in the Ecoflow Delta Pro to the outlet to the manual transfer switch? I don't need an automatic function.
Is the smart home panel worth what it costs? I've heard that there are many panels which would do the same thing for a fraction of the cost. I do own an E.D.Pro..but my electrical panel is not ready for any kind of backup system. I'd be willing to switch it on manually if it meant saving hundreds of dollars.
You can only connect one delta pro with one extra battery to the smart home panel? You can use two delta pro with two extra batteries each?
Can you Incorporate the Ecoflow dual fuel Smart Generator into this setup? That would make it Perfect, with being able to have the Main Propane tank on the property setup with the Smart Generator, which will always be keeping the Batteries Filled as needed, without having the Generator constantly running.
You could, the only problem is venting the generator to the outside.
@@GardenPadawan Just run the power through a passthrough to where the batteries are.
@@whattheschmidt , that's definitely a possibility. Doesn't quite work for me, I would need about 30' of power cable, and I don't think they make one that long yet.
I like the setup.
I opened the ecoflow link and it showed individual purchase for each item.
What exactly do I for a house back up power system?
Happy Utility Independent’s day !!!
Sound great and all but if im in a longerm power outage i think i would want gas or diesel generator.
I would like to know how long it will last if average usage. If it will not last at least 12 to 24 hours seems to be a waste. But I do like the fact you hired an electrician .
can the smart home panel be used with a different battery brand?
Can this be used with an existing transfer switch? Is one sufficient to use as back up for the heating system? How long would it run? Like that it automatically switches on. I have a generac generator (gasoline) outside in a storage unit with a transfer switch.If the weather is bad, who wants to go outside to start it?
@@robertthompson3447 you dont live in an area that rains a lot, do you?
Not rainy here. Thinking of winter if there were blizzard conditions.
I'll try and answer your questions:
1) Depends on the kind of transfer switch. We have a 6 and 10 circuit manual transfer switch. I bought two adaptor plugs. A 30 amp. RV plug and Household (2) 5-15 Plug Male to Generator Twist Lock L14-30 Receptacle Female Y Adapter Cord.
2 & 3) Our DP can power our HVAC system, along with all other circuit needed, for about 4 hrs.
4) I know what you mean, but here's the thing. Something is bond to go wrong with this system, that you can't fix. Better figure out a way to maybe set up your generator, before you need it. So, all you have to do is turn it on when needed.
Our DP got damaged from a power surge, from the Utility company, during a bad thunderstorm. We couldn't even use it. We do have a tri-fuel generator that we could have used as a backup. People are putting too much trust in these devices, that really haven't shown to be as reliable, as a gas generator.
That looks sweet af lol
The electrician you used, was it one of the ones ecoflow recommends from their website?
How did you handle AFCI restrictions?
Wow.
Would it work both ways? I want to run certain circuits on non grid tie solar, and have it switch back to the grid if the ecoflow gets low on battery from solar.?. Great video! Thank you!
Yes it works like that, solar can charge them, you can control how much, thresholds before using AC to charge. They have a lot of detailed settings.
I have a 50 amp transfer switch in my home, what adapter or process would I need to connect my Delta Pro to the 50 amp inlet?
Can I use delta pro along with the main grid? Power the house untill bateries run out or go to specific %
then main power runs the house. I see this marketed as home backup but that use case is rare in my area. I want a solar system that can power the house. This seems to be the hardest part of figuring out how to power mains with batteries/solar setups.
I have the same question. Can you charge up the ecoflow units using say portable panels, then plug those into the Smart Home Panel, choose what you want to power - then have the unit switch back over to the grid once the batteries drain. Rinse, repeat.
Bluetti smart panel similar i assume . What's your thoughts
Is it possible to run on solar when the batteries are nearly topped off while having grid power? Would be nice to take advantage of the 1600W solar capacity per Delta Pro while the sun’s out and save some money on grid power
Could I unplug this when I need to and use it for my r v?
I need install it.
As a general rule, treat this power source as you would if you were on your generator, that is to say, it is far, FAR weaker than the power you receive from your main line. So when on battery (or generator) power, DO NOT use appliances that generate heat or else you risk tripping the switch, unless you have a alternate power source that rivals your main line. For example, most homes have 100A services to the house spread across 110v and 220v. The key is the 100A. For example, to simplify, if your house runs only 110V appliances, then 110V multiplied by 100A gives 11,000 volt-amps, or 11,000 watts. So if your battery/generator can supply 1.1kWh continuously, then it is just as powerful as your main line and you can run whatever you want. Otherwise, with a power source of a typical 5,000W generator, that means, NO hair dryers, NO clothes dryers, NO ovens (toaster or otherwise), and NO electric water heaters. There are numerous kilowatt calculators online where you can get a summary of your electrical budget to use when sizing a generator. Same deal with this battery system under review. Nothing new under the sun.
11,000 watts = 11 kW not 1.1 kW
HOW LONG WILL IT POWER A HOME??? BEFORE IT NEEDS A RECHARGE.
but how long will it provide power? septic, fridge, water. how long until they need to be replaced?
How much does it cost with all necessity accessories?
I think in India this is called Inverter battery system, we use this on daily basis
4 eco flow delta pro and 8 eco flow delta pro smart battery power whole house test it out
Can this solution help with powering the whole home for several days a week 12-15 days a month? Our pg&e bill per wattage out here in California is outrageous and am looking for off-grid solutions to work along with my solar system
It will never be cheaper or save you any money than your PG&E bill
I know they say 3000 cycles before they don’t get 100 percent charge or degrade but as a daily use to lower energy costs bu Charging them every day at night like on an ev rate how many times can they cycle really?
Can i use this with my own batteries?
How long do you expect to be able to power your home during a prolonged...24hrs...outage in January...cold, snow etc?
Thirty to fourth seconds. Why? Is that an issue? Just long enough to see the way to start the NG or LP generator.
So how long would this power you house? If I put a Generac system on my house it would need a 20 KW system.
Not very long. Without all the extra batteries and buttload of solar panels to recharge it you're still going to need some kind of generator or the power needs to come back on...
Somebody says you need a 20 kW generator. Well this is a 7.2 KW setup. So it's approximately 1/3 of the size of the 20 kW generator.
Generac systems are great. They're not cheap. And they definitely will oversize your unit so you can't complain you don't have enough power. No one can answer these questions. You might have a two-story house with dual air conditioners. Or you might have a little two bedroom house with window units. All in all these batteries in a box are great for portable power or for very short-term power outages.
@@williamkn621 My comments are based around this thing won't do what it is being claimed to do. I have my own situation solved months ago. If I was relying on this set up I think I'd be in mega trouble.
@@philstevens9914 they are great camping and no site power at times. Short term stuff👍
@SilverCymbal - I've read in other threads where the EcoFlow home panel is installed, they are losing battery power slowly over a period of days (its not keeping a charge).. have you seen this happen in this install at your buddys place?
I haven't heard that but he has chosen to keep his in online mode so when the power goes out nothing goes off. He just had an outage and was thrilled how this worked. But maybe if it was in offline mode it would have that issue?
@@SilverCymbal thanks for the quick response. Would be good to test perhaps. That said, I think this is something that one would want in online mode all the time - I know I would! BTW I read that in the TH-cam thread on another EcoFlow home panel video. Was curious if it was a bug, as Im either pulling the trigger on an Ecoflow or Zender system myself. cheers.
Can you use other battery storage options with the home panel?
I believe only the Ecoflow Delta Pro units, can be used with the Smart Home Panel. It uses the Infinity port and cable to connect the two together.
Now hook it up to a Portable Solar power system!
That is definitely the way to go, and save a lot of money over where electric bills are going!
Does this come with overload protection ? Also, can it be removed if home its sold / rented later?
You can just leave the smart home panel and take the batteries with you. Put a panel in the next home. Paying to remove all that work would be too wasteful imo.
Can you use the smart home panel with solar panels or just grid power
No you can definitely use it with portable panels or fixed panels
How long do those batteries last? I meant, how often will they need to be replaced?
Will this power my central heat/ac? I need something that will.
Heat - definitely (natural gas? propane furnace?). A/C probably with 2 batteries, yes, but it will be using a lot of power and not run the A/C too long.
"a ton of power"? What does that mean?
These can easily power anything in your house simultaneously. He gives the specs in the video that he made about them previously in detail
About 2,000 super trillion kilowhats a TON
@@adventure6583 Per meter squared
Correct answer: if you have 2000 pounds of batteries, you officially have a Ton of power.
Can this system be installed in a commercial application like a restaurant?
Excellent and Informative Video! ....1 additional question...Will this be able to power a 3.5 ton house A/C unit? As I would like to do a setup like this as my power backup. Thanks!
Yes it shouldnt have any problems with that.
- HVAC service tech
No way….
@@wayneguy6043 I’m with you on this one.
@@Samlol23_drrich It can power it... for 5 seconds
@@nodd85 and then won't be able to power anything else as its completely drained all the batteries.
Thinking about powering a container home with 1 or 2 of these
Socialblade has you at around 6.3 million views a month right now. If your making around $10 RPM, that means you're pulling in around $60,000 a month in ad sense? Is that about right?
Now having a hybrid, having the batteries and a gas generator would be amazing, the batteries get low and the gas generator turns on and charges them!
EcoFlow has a smart generator that does exactly that. It will automatically start and charge the batteries when they get low. I just order my system with the smart generator. Also, don’t forget that they batteries can be hooked up to solar panels. The system has pass through charging so you generate energy and use it at the same time. When my ecoflow system is complete it will have batteries, solar and a smart generator.
EcoFlow has a smart generator that does exactly that. It will automatically start and charge the batteries when they get low. I just order my system with the smart generator. Also, don’t forget that they batteries can be hooked up to solar panels. The system has pass through charging so you generate energy and use it at the same time. When my ecoflow system is complete it will have batteries, solar and a smart generator.
I think this is a better option than the Tesla battery pack.
Its nice that you can control a lot of it, something the Tesla does not allow
@@SilverCymbal What doesn't Tesla allow you to control?
Cheaper
@@MoCowbell
I’m guessing it’s the fact that you don’t pick circuits with Powerwall systems. We don’t install them here in MA with critical load panels similar to what is shown in the video. Almost every install we back up the entire house. If we dont back up the entire house, the number one item we load shed is the AC condenser if the LRA/RLA is too high. You also have to take into consideration how many Powerwalls you are purchasing when it comes to those larger loads.
I never lose power. It's exactly where I left it.
Nice video! I am in MA....can you refer me to your electrician, please?
When you say whole house …does that include AC also for the house ?
can you connect a regular generator to this panel to power your house? or it only works with ecoflow products?
It only works with Ecoflow DP unit only.
@@Pk3_Garage that's a bummer, thanks for the info!
like that this is inline but contrary to the video's description it will NOT power the "ENTIRE" house; at 1:57 "now this panel will not power every single thing in your house, you've got to pick UP TO 10 circuits".. Do be careful when doing anything w/electricity. My personal rule: If in doubt, it ALL goes out at the panel, at the meter. Even then...still test those lines
Love my SHP but really confused as to why it drains both my Delta Pros slowly over time. After a month of being connected, more than 30% of my battery capacity has been drained with zero power outages or other events that would cause the batteries to be required. Leaving the batteries disconnected from the SHP “solves” the problem for me but obviously is non ideal. My best guess is that when the Delta Pros are connected, they never timeout and for some reason are pulling power from themselves vs the grid to provide connectivity.
My is doing the same thing. Does your panel charge your batteries?
@@TheBsEr Yes. It seems we have two options. 1) Manually trigger the charge via the app or 2) Set a rule to auto recharge after a certain level is passed.
I just did another test where I charged up the batteries to 100%, left them both physically connected to the SHP but turned one of the AC ports off and EPS (the super fast fail over) off as well. The result after 14 days with zero power outages was 43% drain on one Delta Pro and 26% on the other.
I then charged them both back up to 100%, physically unpluged them from the SHP and waited. It's only been 7 days so far but both Delta Pro's are still at 100% charge.
The only thing I can figure is that when they are plugged into the SHP, the batteries never turn off. In the app you can see how the timeout (which I've set to 30 mins... the lowest setting) switches to "Never" and you can't change it. It's REALLY weird that it would draw power from the batteries to stay on and even more weird that there's that much power drain over 2 weeks just to keep the wifi or whatever on.
@@thatcreole9913 thank you! Sorry another quick question, are your batteries hooked up to 30amp breakers through the SHP? I dont think my are and when I tried to turn on Recharge, it just turns back to off right away. I tried turning off fast charge on the batteries and still seem to happen
@@TheBsEr yup. 30amp breaker.
Thanks for the review on this... I hadn't seen anything on the power panel on TH-cam at all. Do you know if the power panel requires two EcoFlows or could I get started with panel and one before getting a 2nd? I realize I can't get 240 until I have the two, but still be nice for 120 house backup.
You can use just one DP. You have to remember though; the smart home panel will only work with a DP. If your DP has issues, guess what, no power to those circuits and you can't use a generator to connect to the Smart Home Panel.
A smarter solution would be to install a 10-circuit manual transfer switch. This way, you can power those ten circuits, with a portable generator and/or a DP. We have this set up and it works great. You will need a changeover switch to switch between the generator and power station.
Our DP powers everything in our house, minus the central air. When the DP needs charging, we run our generator to recharge it., in less than 3 hrs. We can still provide power to our entire house, plus the central air, if needed.
@@Pk3_Garage yeah I thought about that but I like that the smart panel provides instant switchover. I know it's kind of just a "first world problem" since during an extended outage (which isn't that often for me) to go down and hook it up.
Actually, once everything is hooked up, just leave everything plugged in. When you suspect a power outage, turn on the DP, flip the switches to Gen and your good to go.
The DP has an EPS mode (Emergency Power Supply) that works like an UPS. It switches over to battery power within 30ms. It works very. Just make sure you have a whole house and single outlet surge protector. Our DP was damaged during a thunderstorm, while using it in EPS mode because of a power surge when the utility power came back on.
One power outage in 30 years.
Less than 2 hours.
I would say that is reasonably reliable
Can this be used on a daily basis to save on electricity bills ?
Absolutely, by tying in solar panels many people are doing that