Thanks Jake. When we had steers on the dairy feed never was a problem. Mixed corn and oat and supplements and a dash of salt and minerals and poured it to them when they were up in the 900 to 1000 lb area. Always Holsteins never had colored cattle. And Holsteins love the grains. I only have 4 Holsteins now and that's as many as I can afford to feed and have to buy all my grain and hay. Only way I can make a little is sell as butchered meat. I think after this batch goes I'm going to buy angus or cross bred cattle and try them.
oldfarmer thanks for the input! Ya when u only have tiny heard freezer beef is the only way to go. I’m sure u will like the other breeds to. 1100 lbs live weight seems to make a nice size 1/4 for people. Thanks for watching
A couple viewers mention barley, which is a real good idea. Barley is the same protein as corn. But you need to fall seed it, and it is usually ready to harvest mid to late June when you’re running low on corn. And you can bale the straw for bedding which is real similar to oat straw.
Thanks for letting us in on your feed process! Growing up, we always kept enough corn on hand to feed our cattle, but since, I've also heard of people feeding barley (if you can grow it) and it seems to work pretty good. But if you could store more corn onsite, I'd think that would be the most economical option. Thanks for the video!
Hey Jake, if you don't mind me asking, do you sell your steers direct to customers or at an auction? I really want to get into cattle, but not sure which way I want to go: short term investment bottle calves or longer term investment steers ready to go to the butcher. Thanks!
DeHaven Family Farm I sell them direct to customers. I make more that way and they get a high quality product at a cheaper price. I’d go with feeders. There very easy to maintain
Well here's my 2 cents, the practical solution is to store more of your own corn so you can control the quality. Whether you get a couple more wagons, put up a small bin or even in a building if you don't mind the shoveling. There are several different millets, none of which are very viable grain yielders. They are warm season grasses which won't lend well to spring planting. You can try barley or feed wheat and grind bright straw with it to bulk it up.
Dale Cornelius I’m kinda thinking barley now. If that don’t pan out and I get tired of oats I’ll come up with a better way to store corn. Thanks for the input!
@@jakeziegler599 we like to grow a field of brown top millet to harvest as hay each year....the cows love the millet hay and clean up every round bale we put out a lot better than grass hay but the millet hay needs to be stored dry (barn kept is what we do or maybe wrapped) it will not store outside as good as grass hay....
Jake, at the end of the day you might just buy wheat cheaper than you can grow it as spring wheat does not yield that well as it often does not tiller out nearly as well (compared to winter wheat)! Generally spring barley will out perform it in terms of yield. Many folks here will grind cereals and mix these with a purchased premix which balances the ration and provides the necessary protein/mineral/vitamin requirements. For many folks this is mixed at 336lbs of premix to 1900 lbs of grain to make an imperial tonne of food. This would be fed with free access straw in the racks or mediocre grade hay. If you want to feed alfalfa add more grain to the premix so that they do not have too much protein.
Dan Whiteford every other year we plant a field of winter wheat any way so I’d just take some of that. I’m kinda leaning towards barley tho. At least try it. Thanks for the input on feed!
Nice looking beef animals, ration seems practical for your herd. Consider a hopper bin if you can find to store corn from your own source. Looking good, the beef will be top notch.
as others have stated barley is the best small grain alternative to corn. Barley has a lower starch level . Barley is much easier to feed than most other small grains. Corn really has relatively low protien content it usually ranges 7-7.5% range.
Can u keep corn at elevator in grain bank. Also maybe plant spelts farm I use to work on did to put in calf feed not sure how it would be on finishing cattle.
Highly recommend barley. The straw is better then any straw you can use and the barley has a higher protein then corn. I was always told barley is a poor man's corn.
Thanks for the video. I have been feeding the black and white steers. It's not the best market but there is a little money to be made. I haven't fed full feed at all bc im buying bagged feed but am gonna try next summer maybe. Thanks again for the video.
We grow oats barley and pea mix for grain. Oats a light feed good for creep feeding calves on cows. Here we have to put fungicide on at flag and before heading for the oats to weigh up.
can you post the hanging weights, or average carcass weight. Also how many months old are they 18ish? are they all steers or are some heifers? Also what type of cattle, black angus cross? obviously the red white face is something else.
They look nice. Their back and rear are nice and round. We always had oats put into our corn along with molasses and supplement. It would be interesting to see what their hanging weight is. 750?
Good vid free choice good quality forage is important when feeding cattle. Do people grow barley in your area, you could plant them the same time as oats and they have more energy ,48lb/bu.
Corn is better , higher TDN than barley and barley has a higher starch so you can't bump them up as fast as corn or you need to be more careful but is easier than wheat. There are a pile of feedlots that finish on wheat.
Hey Jake This is off the subject but I’m building a 460 farmall puller .... put in a hycapacity ta and deleting the hyd pump and power steering thinking I can plug the oil galleys in ta housing to keep the ta lubed.... just pour in a few quarts and put on cover.... I figured I could change hytrans a few times a year.... but I’m not sure if the oil will pass thru the back of ta into the trans... and then my ta would be dry.... my only other option would be to put in electric oil pump and really don’t want to got that route... your thoughts?
farmermatt629 I really couldn’t tel ya there. I would think u still need an oil supply tho. But I’ve never worked on the ta except for in that 504 and it was all mechanical
Jake Ziegler ya the ta in the 460 is the same as 504 just a lil bigger ... I’m basically just making a oil bath with oil that doesn’t circulate from hyd pump
If u show cows u want to make sure u done over feed them we have over 23 cows I show at big shows but don’t feed Them at night if u don’t want fat cows ok
Thanks Jake. When we had steers on the dairy feed never was a problem. Mixed corn and oat and supplements and a dash of salt and minerals and poured it to them when they were up in the 900 to 1000 lb area. Always Holsteins never had colored cattle. And Holsteins love the grains. I only have 4 Holsteins now and that's as many as I can afford to feed and have to buy all my grain and hay. Only way I can make a little is sell as butchered meat. I think after this batch goes I'm going to buy angus or cross bred cattle and try them.
oldfarmer thanks for the input! Ya when u only have tiny heard freezer beef is the only way to go. I’m sure u will like the other breeds to. 1100 lbs live weight seems to make a nice size 1/4 for people. Thanks for watching
A couple viewers mention barley, which is a real good idea. Barley is the same protein as corn. But you need to fall seed it, and it is usually ready to harvest mid to late June when you’re running low on corn. And you can bale the straw for bedding which is real similar to oat straw.
Massey1105driver thanks for the input. Never thought of barley but it’s looking like a good idea
Thanks for letting us in on your feed process! Growing up, we always kept enough corn on hand to feed our cattle, but since, I've also heard of people feeding barley (if you can grow it) and it seems to work pretty good. But if you could store more corn onsite, I'd think that would be the most economical option. Thanks for the video!
burningdinosaurs Thanks for the input. I might try barley. I don’t have a great way to store corn and I like to use the 525 LOL
The farm I work on, we make a mix of ear corn, barley, and minerals. The also get corn silage. I’d look into planting barley.
Sterff89 thanks for the input. I’m leaning towards barley
Just curious, do you guys still have the barn that the cattle were in in the 1997 farm tape?
PA Farms yes that’s our dairy barn. I’ve got u down for a video on it
Hey Jake, if you don't mind me asking, do you sell your steers direct to customers or at an auction? I really want to get into cattle, but not sure which way I want to go: short term investment bottle calves or longer term investment steers ready to go to the butcher. Thanks!
DeHaven Family Farm I sell them direct to customers. I make more that way and they get a high quality product at a cheaper price. I’d go with feeders. There very easy to maintain
In southern Illinois you could plant barely then corn barely gets out before oats so you might have time to get two crops
tim pille now I like that! I could at least double crop beans. Thanks for the info. Where in souther Illinois are u?
Well here's my 2 cents, the practical solution is to store more of your own corn so you can control the quality. Whether you get a couple more wagons, put up a small bin or even in a building if you don't mind the shoveling. There are several different millets, none of which are very viable grain yielders. They are warm season grasses which won't lend well to spring planting. You can try barley or feed wheat and grind bright straw with it to bulk it up.
Dale Cornelius I’m kinda thinking barley now. If that don’t pan out and I get tired of oats I’ll come up with a better way to store corn. Thanks for the input!
@@jakeziegler599 we like to grow a field of brown top millet to harvest as hay each year....the cows love the millet hay and clean up every round bale we put out a lot better than grass hay but the millet hay needs to be stored dry (barn kept is what we do or maybe wrapped) it will not store outside as good as grass hay....
Nice looking animals!
TNT Cattle thanks!
Jake, at the end of the day you might just buy wheat cheaper than you can grow it as spring wheat does not yield that well as it often does not tiller out nearly as well (compared to winter wheat)! Generally spring barley will out perform it in terms of yield. Many folks here will grind cereals and mix these with a purchased premix which balances the ration and provides the necessary protein/mineral/vitamin requirements. For many folks this is mixed at 336lbs of premix to 1900 lbs of grain to make an imperial tonne of food. This would be fed with free access straw in the racks or mediocre grade hay. If you want to feed alfalfa add more grain to the premix so that they do not have too much protein.
Dan Whiteford every other year we plant a field of winter wheat any way so I’d just take some of that. I’m kinda leaning towards barley tho. At least try it. Thanks for the input on feed!
Nice looking beef animals, ration seems practical for your herd. Consider a hopper bin if you can find to store corn from your own source. Looking good, the beef will be top notch.
Karl Brohammer thanks for watching!
Jake I like your idea of what your calling almost like a test plot.never dealt in millet before, should be a nice test ran
Pepi farms thanks!
I would put up a small grain bin so I would have corn all year long.
Use barley high protein like corn
Harvest like oats
Scott Marteeny thanks for the info
as others have stated barley is the best small grain alternative to corn. Barley has a lower starch level . Barley is much easier to feed than most other small grains. Corn really has relatively low protien content it usually ranges 7-7.5% range.
anthonyscv1 thanks for the input!!
Can u keep corn at elevator in grain bank. Also maybe plant spelts farm I use to work on did to put in calf feed not sure how it would be on finishing cattle.
Timer Farms it would cost more and proly still would be clean out since I would just have such a small amount. I’ve heard of spelts being used before
I got a half from my son's friend who farms out here and it is so much better beef than anything you can buy in a store. Grain fed is the best.
Scoot4117 Sack yes it is!
Highly recommend barley. The straw is better then any straw you can use and the barley has a higher protein then corn. I was always told barley is a poor man's corn.
PAdairyfarming ,
Thanks for the video. I have been feeding the black and white steers. It's not the best market but there is a little money to be made. I haven't fed full feed at all bc im buying bagged feed but am gonna try next summer maybe. Thanks again for the video.
PAdairyfarming , thanks for watching! Ya if u can get them on full corn at least that will help
Beef are looking good Jake. Your ration definantly agrees with them. Take care, See you next post.
Scott Viers thanks scott! Ya I’ve had good luck with them so don’t want to mess it up that bad lol
We grow oats barley and pea mix for grain. Oats a light feed good for creep feeding calves on cows. Here we have to put fungicide on at flag and before heading for the oats to weigh up.
69druth ok thanks for the input
Do you keep any cattle year around? You’ve probably said before but I was just wondering
Wesley K nope just late February through early January
can you post the hanging weights, or average carcass weight. Also how many months old are they 18ish? are they all steers or are some heifers? Also what type of cattle, black angus cross? obviously the red white face is something else.
Jonathan Tarrant ya I’ll mention it in an upcoming video sometime. Ya they were fall of 16 calves. Ya angus and red white face. 3 steers 3 heifers
You feed a bag of grain a week on each gal or between all three
They look nice. Their back and rear are nice and round. We always had oats put into our corn along with molasses and supplement. It would be interesting to see what their hanging weight is. 750?
Johndeere5065 thanks man! Ya I’m shooting for 700 750 would be nice tho
Interesting content.
Chuck Stevenson thanks for watching
I'd suggest barley, but it should be at least rolled. Field Peas are good too
Old Iron Farming thanks for the input
Good vid free choice good quality forage is important when feeding cattle. Do people grow barley in your area, you could plant them the same time as oats and they have more energy ,48lb/bu.
AndersonCattleCo. Thanks and no barley grown here but I’m considering it seeing how every one is saying that
Corn is better , higher TDN than barley and barley has a higher starch so you can't bump them up as fast as corn or you need to be more careful but is easier than wheat. There are a pile of feedlots that finish on wheat.
Cow + grass = best taste!
cows got big! you still got plans for chopping corn in the future?
Michigan Farming prolly not this year as my sister is selling her horse so that will free up enough hay for me
Hey Jake This is off the subject but I’m building a 460 farmall puller .... put in a hycapacity ta and deleting the hyd pump and power steering thinking I can plug the oil galleys in ta housing to keep the ta lubed.... just pour in a few quarts and put on cover.... I figured I could change hytrans a few times a year.... but I’m not sure if the oil will pass thru the back of ta into the trans... and then my ta would be dry.... my only other option would be to put in electric oil pump and really don’t want to got that route... your thoughts?
farmermatt629 I really couldn’t tel ya there. I would think u still need an oil supply tho. But I’ve never worked on the ta except for in that 504 and it was all mechanical
Jake Ziegler ya the ta in the 460 is the same as 504 just a lil bigger ... I’m basically just making a oil bath with oil that doesn’t circulate from hyd pump
Hey man there is a white 8700 in good looking shape for sale in hickory NC Craigslist. FYI
Aaron Black cool I’ll have to look
barley is high in energy like corn can substitute lb for lb
Richard Cleasby ok thanks!
does your dad have anything to do with these cows or are they all yours?
Soybean Farmer all mine. Grandpa had cattle then we didn’t have any for 7 or 8 years then I got some
I want to communicate with a Nutritionist to create an integrated nutrition program that can help me
My neighbor had grown millet
Muddy Springs did he like it?
Jake Ziegler ya he did and the stubble looks almost like wheat stubble and there’s lots of straw
If u show cows u want to make sure u done over feed them we have over 23 cows I show at big shows but don’t feed
Them at night if u don’t want fat cows ok