You have no reference point to judge objectively whether you have achived that enlightenment. Likely that you have not defined it at all. Thus you may well practice BS. But yes, as a quick funny shallow excuse, - works well. Gives you a smart look ))
Amazing and well explained. Alot of people use enlightenment for gain and put their own spin on it like getting a haircut at a barber but they put their own touch even though its not whay you asked. This will help me on my journey tyvm.
I once attempted to join the path of the Mahayana. For varying reasons I never quite committed to it but I always kept my interest in walking the path. If I ever take on more direct teachings it will be because of these videos and I just wanted to share my appreciation.
Thanks for this beautiful video! I was wondering if the 'quoted summary' introduction (0:10-0:25) comes from a manuscript (if so, which one?), or composed by by you as a summary from different sources (if so, then than I would say you are a master too).
Bankei sounds like a guy who was probably hilarious to be around. It sounds like he really understood how life can all be one great joke if you let it. Saying "Just sit and you've achieved Zen" was probably both hilarious and absolutely serious to him. In a way, it understands everything, and then mocks it in the way only true understanding can. It is quintessentially knowing that both everything and nothing matters. Neither contradicts the other, but rather, the juxtaposition of the two is, in itself, a hilarious joke.
It is not a joke. It is not serious. These adjectives are “forms”to use his terminology. If you want to understand read the Buddhas teaching of the four extremes. If you do not understand the four extremes you will always fall back into conceptual habits. All that can be described is conceptual. Enlightenment is not anything, it is what springs from that state which is funny, or beautiful, or any other thing that life can bring. Enlightenment is truly just undoing the mistaken identification with these attributes rather than that which transcends them. May you be free. Tashi!
i have no desire to be enlightened. i want to be high 24/24 but without drugs, with my own supply is that desire bad? i don't care about being enlightened
@@bollvigblack Yes, you crave stimulation. You crave that feeling of being "high". That might hinder your progress and make you impatient for something you expect to happen eventually.
Have you met anyone like that? Or heard of anyone who achieved that? If so, ask them or copy what they did. If not use your imagination (probably like this Bankee guy did) also I hear good things about chat gpt. Good luck report back here when you get it 👍
@@SowiniBushido Well, you crave answering his comment on this comment section, hypocrate that you are. I for instance, a truly enlighneted being, will cease to crave anything after that comment that i write right now. After that, i will cease all movement and perheps die of starvation. And when people slap my face saying i am in a catatonic state, i won't answer, for i don't even crave their comfort and well being nor mine. I don't even crave having a good life. A crappy life and a good life is the same for me. For i am truly enlightned
If you understand that there's ''nothing you need to do in order to be enlightened'', and that ''you are as enlightened as you will ever be all the time'', then what's left is the things you're willing to put yourself through in order to feel deserving of this state of mind.
The fastest shortcut to Awareness is to pay attention to the Empty Open Space around you, shift focus from objects to the Nothingness around you or if you find the objects distracting then stare into the night sky on a cloudless night. You will feel a silent stillness and hear a tinnitus type ringing in the ears: you are Home.
Jung saw the ego as the centre of the field of consciousness which contains our conscious awareness of existing and a continuing sense of personal identity.
Actually, Tao and Yoga are much older (also Shinto, I feel) and quite compatible with each other. They have exchanged ideas over centuries before Buddhism became state religion. It kept some of its yoga roots, made its own yoga. It has been struggling over milennia towards and away from it. Happily Dogen gave it a nudge back, and now we can learn from each other.
6:17 - "Bankei's teachings on The Unborn were a radical departure from the traditional Zen teachings of his time, which often focused on meditation and ascetic practices." You can argue that his teaching *methods* were a departure, but the teaching itself certainly was not. It is the very same teaching as the teachings of The Diamond Sutra, of Boddhidharma, Huang Po, Rinzai, Dogen, Basui, Hakuin, and many others. This video overstates doctrinal differences and makes basic errors regarding the various schools of Zen. Also, accusing any Zen school of "ascetic practices" is a grave accusation indeed. All Zen traditions remind us that Shakyamuni Buddha himself rejected asceticism.
Vedantin here. Excellent video - thank you ❤ I heard that Nagarjuna said that; One should not hold on to Emptiness Likewise, Gaudapada Acharya in Mandukya Karika said not to hold on to Advaita. These teachers are using different words & methods, for the same Meaning. Emptiness of Form is Fullness of Being. Is Fullness of Form same as Emptiness of Being? The Unborn transcends yet is immanent in Empirical Reality. Even the text above has to be dropped. 🕉️Tat Tvam Asi🕉️
Of all the Buddhist things I have studied and read this one makes the most sense. We already have enlightenment, but it's within us the whole time. Our thoughts and opinions like our bodies have a form, and everything with formed begins and ends. But Enlightenment and Consciousness are formless, unborn so to speak, yet ever-present.
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality. Ahambrahmasmi Tat vam asi Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
@Charger Dave it is your opinion it is hard to let go of things that do not serve you? why do you hold on to the grime and dirt if you know it's not real?
@Charger Dave you seem very educated in other people's opinions but do you think for yourself? whatever you believe is true it doesn't matter. no I did not need an answer to my question, because it's not true for me, it was to get you to really think about what you wrote. your pure at any stage if you choose to be or your not if you believe your not yet. your personal relationship with the divine determines that nothing else
Everyone here including you and me, we are all just manifestations of the same pure and beginning and deathless Power. And like all other things it was never outside, for every great thing in the world began within us. Tribes, Empires, democracies, Technologies, different forms of Spiritual Awakening, I can make a list but I won't. I've already made my point
This video is a beautiful illustration of the truth of Lao Tzu's assertion: Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know. The essence of Bankei's teaching is this simple: stop thinking. What is left is the Unborn. Remain there; live there.
@@bismayroychoudhury4288 first you should know timeage of both events...Laotsu was born 2600 years ago while upishads hardly old 1500-1800 years....So Upnishads stole teachings of Laotzu
From what I learned, the most important meditation techniques to do are: - do nothing - mindfulness - self inquiry That seems right to me, or am I overcomplicating things?
He lives in a four by two glass box that reminds me of my head I wish my floor would have rocks, but it's covered with puddles instead If I could be him, life would be great I could erase this permanent frown I wouldn't even be held down by my own weight I woke up walked to the tank to hear his thoughts on yesterday "How was it?" I asked And after a tap on the glass He looked my way then gave me this depressed expression And pressed his best just to say; "Besides the tides and the grey skies, it was ok!" And I said< "Hey mister fish, you did all that you wish You got nothing to complain about while hanging out in this abyss" And he replied "Well existence is bliss, there's so much that you missed Besides get off the trip, happiness is just a myth" I said "Living in water is extremely more peaceful than life confined to a mind Blinded by evil, and forced to see through these two peep holes It seems I've redeemed freedom, not being limited by walls But that only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls' But Mr. Fish just laughed as I went on and on and on So I interrupted his chuckle, putting up a middle finger And he boldly told me it's too bad I'm such a thinker So Arrogantly I asked "How could someone think too much?" He added that insanity lingers and thoughts brought me to the brink of such He said "You live inside a head that reminds me of my glass box And everyone's the same; all brains are contained by your reality frame And chained to the terrain, it's trained not to change And once you see what I've explained you hit the jackpot" And at that very moment it was like my eyes really opened The air that previously surrounded me was now an ocean Still totally invisible except for minor pieces of debris Then Mr. Fish pushed up to the glass and he looked just like me My whole world spun around, I didn't understand But I realized I was no longer a man So I thought about what he said and asked him what was going on And he said, "You didn't know it but you were the fish all along" He said, "Congratulations, you did it, you broke free You're just a fish, like the rest of humanity" Now it took me a long time to get adjusted to this tank But now I know what I am, and so to that man I give thanks I've always lived inside this glass box that reminds him of his head It just goes to show ya that your mind is your own monster Reality is what you make it, and if you take it away You're just a fish, like me, swimming in the powdered water. Songwriter- Eyedea & Abilities
This is the next step beyond existentialism! Literally, this is the best answer to nihilism I have watched. Well, it also takes solipsism into consideration. Literally we don't know nothing for sure, we are our own perception of time and experience. So we can't ever prove even the concept of ourselves exists because time is an illusion of that consciousness, and we think we are consciousness because we know about our memories of existing. So in the end nothing is really meaningful, nothing has a purpose and we don't even exist, so, let's have the best life we can and satisfy our desires and feelings of obligation while limiting our worries but without feeling shame about having some. Let's live the best life we can create, because that is what you will do regardless. This even fix the problem of the universe being deterministic.
@@ahobimo732 I agree, and i think absurdism is closer to buddhism because nihilism is not the end of thought yet. As @Ben the Peaceful Forage-Garden Inhabitant said, experience is the objective itself. If you try to see through the experience u will always see emptiness, either if its your 'objective' or not. Fear emptiness and you will fear life...embrace it and u will finally start living
Correct me if i am wrong but, Advaita vedanta speaks about this as being "intellectually realised", they go on further to say that most people stop at this but apparently there are more levels to this, being energetically realised, state of being bodyless etc...
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. Ahambrahmasmi Tat vam asi Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
@@brandonmehrg Ramana Maharishi was a not a Maharishi, but a mere charlatan. Please unlearn his so called teachings. Be unborn like this Japanese guy suggests.
@@owleye391 As a relative newcomer to eastern philosophy, Bankei's concept of "unbourne" seems to parallel the platonic "world of eternal abstract forms". Is this a valid comparison? Sorry I can't address your point about the vedanta.
Oh heavens, Bankei's teachings are SO like Advaita Vedanta! That which is not born and therefore cannot die, is called the Atman. Pronounced Aathmun, not to sound like Batman 😂
@@donvanevery3235 whoa, friend, whoa! How about religions that state categorically that you'll roast in hell forever if you don't submit to their deities?
@@OnlineMD Well, two of the three which supposedly say that don't really say that. The punishment is temporal, the effects are eternal. Fear not the one who destroys body, but both body and the essential identity which it produced in life (soul). I don't believe in an immortal soul because that's not what the text says anywhere and the world believes it says we're immortal when it continually says that we're mortal and die, our knowledge and memory and emotion doesn't go with us, and who knows what happens to the being? Sheol is a question, as in, 'What is it?' The Breath of Life seems to me the Atman, the core of life is breath (flow between polarities). It doesn't have self from us and really it isn't ours to say we own.
@@OnlineMD Those are the parts obviously written by the ideals and desires of men, and their perspective. Let's not forget about the how to on selling your daughter as a sex slave, that's a part of the "good book" but it is also dense with divine truth. Which is why they say.. The best lies are the ones closest to the truth..
Bankei's teachings/methods sound very similar to those of Krishnamurti. Humorous, straight to the point, no bullshit, acknowledging that "enlightenment" isn't something to achieve because you're already there.
yes wu wei, samadhi, nirwana, unborn. same thing in different language This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality. Ahambrahmasmi Tat vam asi Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
You think that is an easy message? If it was thousands of buddhists would be enlightened now, and they are not. And why not? because the mind cannot see beyond itself, and the unborn is extremely subtle and ungraspable by nature. As soon as you seek to grasp it it retreats into itself. It is unborn because it is unmade and everything else is made and has a form. The formless does nothing, has nothing, is nothing; and the paradox is that it is everything, infinite and eternal, the Unbecoming, the unexpressed, the Unmanifest Timeless. It is always there, so why is it not seen and known? Because we are always looking somewhere else, at form and structure. It is a complete abstraction. So seek the Abstract, not the phenomenal. Do not look at what is there, loof for what is not there. And where is that? In the abstract and subtle regions of consciousness, and that means we have to let go of the exterior and surrender to the most inward and fall into the Nameless reality of not-isness. You cannot use the mind to find the not-mind. All you can do is to allow everything to be as it is and just rest, relax, and be at peace. Then you abide in Infinity. This is my everyday reality. All we can do is to learn to collapse and surrender, and that is not at all easy for a restless mind. Enlightenment is abstract consciousness which is just there, nowhere, and not looking for anything. For me the key was to open up to the formless abstraction of life and consciousness, which is Nothingness and Silence, the none-movement of mind, unmade and uncontrived.
it's cool when you find a tradition or some teaching that confirms your own insight isn't it? I've learned to be careful with it though. No need to keep seeking, you've already got it. You can get lost in seeking further confirmation. It's a funny thing at times.
Zen Buddhism was originated in India 🇮🇳 not in China. Spirituality was first born in India from India it was spread all over the world 🌍 The Chinese and Japanese cultures are totally influenced by Indian culture.
If your seeking genuine lazy enlightenment look no further that Robert ( Bob ) Monroe , I was a Buddhist for 26 years and learned more in a fortnight at the Monroe institution than in all those years of Navelgazing …. Good luck on your journey . fellow seekers x
Well, in this case, look for Frank Kepple. He discovered what Monroe was trying to understand, but did not understand. For instance, Frank was able to understand that we live in a system comprised of four major areas of consciousness. One is the area of physical objective worlds and their manifestations, another is the objective non-physical world, another the subjective non-physical world, and the other the area of creativity. In fact, through his out of body experiences, he was able to understand that in truth we don't reincarnate.........that what we see as our past lives are actually the lives of our counterparts. He was also able to explain the fact that karma is nothing more than a religious belief system.
Frank was a very gentle soul . The whole theme of reincarnation was added similar to Christian hell ….. the only caveat is one must truly believe in a afterlife your “through forms” create a type of Architectural Egregore ie Christian heaven .. I’ve made several attempts searching for friends who have disembodied but sadly for them they believed death to be the -end all- I don’t know where they go , I couldn’t find them , many will cling to this physical realm out of fear .. in all it’s very sad
@@3ruffians84 Whether one believes or does not believe in the afterlife matters not. What will be, will always be. Just because one doesn't know or is not sure, won't change one's predicament other than the thought and the idea itself. As for myself, i'm clinging to this physical life...............i find it somewhat exciting, fascinating sometimes (not that it used to be like this for me :) Well, my challenge is to live for over 900 years old and be able to express my inner abilities. I guess i'm challenging the whole world. :)
One correction- It was Ashtavakra (the crooked ancient Indian saint) that came with this concept. He was the first person to talk about enlightenment. He lived way before buddha during lord Ramas era. Plz read Ashtavakra Gita if anyone wants highly detailed knowledge. It will change your life.
"If there is nothing from the start where can the dust alight?" If there is nothing from the start, where can happiness alight? This is my dilemma with these teachings. Should I sacrifice the feeling of happiness, beauty just to not feel pain and suffering? Why not feel both and try to not get attached to any of them? I am "born" at the moment, it might have a reason. Why shouldn't i focus more on the "unborn" after i loose my form (death)?
There is no instant enlightenment. Unless you cleared your trauma, wounds, repressed emotions, feelings, and integrated your shadow. Sure the Light Self is always present and this is always the case. However, this knowledge is not sufficient for a human being to become whole and integrated. It is not a cognitive understanding thing. One must heal their reincarnating Soul and this takes decades of inner work. Once the shadow is purged, then the ego must lose its attachments and integrate with the Soul. This is Self Realization. The Light Body is above this and if one can integrate their Soul with their Light Body or "causal Self" one becomes free, full of bliss and joy, and one transcends duality.
Bankei does talk like a used car salesman, and there were even stories made about him coming back as a fox spirit for steering people wrong, but when you know everything else in the whole zen and Buddhist everything, it starts to make perfect sense in strange ways to the scholar, and the masses did make what they wanted of it - remind you of any religions, haha.There was alot not written down - In all, out of everything you should keep a good bankei book around regardless. There's something in it. Something worth including in the big Cannon, if even just to light the fuse.
This was... very logical. Yet I remain perplexed by the apparent contradiction of our 'born' existence. What purpose does experiencing a 'born' state fulfills for the unborn? If the unborn is complete, what function does 'incompleteness' serves? Why are we here if we don't want or need to be here at all? It seems completely pointless.
Unborn is just a term for a thing that cannot be explained, it needs to be realized directly. This reality is a process of the universe understanding itself, it is infinite in nature, but because it’s infinite it can’t marvel at itself from its perspective, so it needs to limit itself into humans or other living beings to experience itself. It’s like a VR game
OMFG! THE NARRATOR! MOOOOOORE! MAKE MORE PLEASE!!! Such a beautiful ideology! For it is truly foolish to claim mastery over any one or any thing. We're all students from a perspective or another
Born is everything that ties us to the wheel. We latch on to anything that comes in front of our senses. Before any action is born …. Hey your buildings there i know were that is. The cubes. Shit something got born
Btw despite Buddhist emphasis non-self and Advaita Hindu focus on ultimate-Self; which seem at different ends of the spectrum - the end result is the same.
☺️✨..hi ppl... I'm really satisfied and thankful to the teachings of different Buddhist scholars over times. This concept of unborn or Zen teachings of enlightenment is nothing but the concept of qualities of Atman😌🌼✨. This might be explained in different perspectives of scholars, but it's same one thing- The Atman.
They forgot the wisdom and Honorary Rules (Clean vs unclean ritual purification baptism Mikveh Pure Heart) taught by Confucius, Zoroaster, and all the prophets that taught the Law correspondent and respective of the Mandate of Heaven Only begotten Son of the Lord of Heaven the High Priest and only true living Emperor Jesus Christ; The replacement of Adam the First Man concerning authority and dominion whereby Jesus Christ is the literal Body of God the Heavenly Father. Unborn Zen is a lie that claims to provide peace lol while idealizing a simple fact of the mechanics of nature.
If Zen is the realization that "I am already there," then it did not start in China, nor after Buddha. Ashtavakra muni taught it to king Janak (father of mata Sita, in Treta yuga - at least 869,000 years ago). The text is called Ashtavakra Gita.
Thank you. Everyone is enlightened and no one knows it. The path is long and stretches out before you endlessly, yet there is nothing to do. The one truth encompasses and transcends duality. Take off your shoes, leave your hat at the door, you're late for supper, won't you have some more?
True that there is nothing to do..........well, other than having fun exploring whatever it is we choose to be exploring. I'm presently exploring making sourdough bread. Now, the way i see it, is that there is no path other than what we choose to believe is there as a path.
@@itsdeadshot2501 Nothing is the opposite of something, the great enlightenment transcends all opposites by embracing duality. Nothingness is a quality, the clear light of the void. Think Zen. "I am the dust at your feet and the mountain you cannot climb." Look in the mirror, do you see me? I am everywhere. Yet I is an illusion. ⛩️
Zen Buddhism cannot teach its Zenith until their priests become circumcised in their old foul ways for, when it comes 2 true disciples, let them all seek St. Thomas of Yeshua, True Christ, making all glow!
Wow! Just discovered this channel and it's already two amazing videos in a row.. this one was spectacular just as the one on Douglas Harding and the headless approach. If I may suggest a theme inside Buddhism the Mahamudra teachings are also amazing.
@Matt Mackane That which is, that is nothing in particular (actual), is by definition everything in general (potential). Potential = Being Actual = Becoming (actualized) Because the potential for actualization is Infinite, the actualization of potential is Eternal, for only Eternity can fully embrace Infinity. The consciousness teachings are also known as concession teachings, as they are a concession to a more limited level of Understanding, a Piscean as through a glass darkly teachings. Now, in the Aquarian age, we can see face to face with crystal clarity. Otherwise, we are stuck with consciousness functioning consciously and unconsciously simultaneously, which is self-contradicting. Since Creative Intelligence functions consciously and unconsciously simultaneously, consciousness is what something does, not what something is. That which is/That I am. Freedom is a Way of Being. Being aware of being aware is unmodulated by the 5 senses, thus unfettered, which is the resonant inner state frequency closest in alignment with the frequency of the all-inclusive Absolute, where all things are possible (Wisdom and Understanding). The Rhythm of Life is a movement and a rest. The optimum (Heaven), is always found somewhere between the extremes of too much and too little (hell). Pleasantness is the Rose found at the Heart of the Optimum. Just so. Narrow is the Way, and few there are that find it. The only illusion is the illusion of duality or separateness. We are all It, to an unknowable/inexhaustible extent, as the facets of a Diamond are 'both' distinct from each other 'and' the Diamond itself. Love is the recognition of our shared Being. What appears as separate and opposite, is in Reality - Continuum. This is a fragment of the highest teaching. Let those with the eyes to see and ears to hear do so. Namaste'.
Well, key difference between Hinduism and Buddhism is Buddha never believed in caste system whereas Hinduism still upholds it . Buddha believed everyone irrespective of their birth can become a teacher not restricted one particular caste
@@newbegining7046 Hinduism was originated from Ancient India whereas Buddhism from Ancient Nepal. Had they not influenced hinduism in Nepal. We would have been one of the most peaceful countries. This caste system is affecting people in my country till now. I can't understand why hinduism is followed strongly in Nepal despite how ignorant Indians have been with the birth and origin of Buddha, it's baffling to me because we had to sign petition of Buddha being born in Nepal just for the sake of truth otherwise a strong country like India would rewrite the history on their favour.
Hakuin Ekaku wasn't the founder of Rinzai Zen, Rinzai Gigen was; hence the name. Rinzai is a lot older then you have described it as being and was the form of Zen taught in Japan when Dogen was growing up. The Tendai tradition that Dogen was a student within Japan is a form of Rinzai. Furthermore, Dogen was not the founder of Soto Zen, he was the person who introduced Soto Zen into Japan. Therefore, it is often explained that he is the the founder of the 'Japanese' school of Soto Zen. He was taught Soto Zen during his time in China. Also why change what Dogen said about practice being enlightenment itself. You have said practice is an expression of enlightenment, but that is not what he said he said 'practice is enlightenment'. It is important not to get that correct because if practice was merely an express then enlightenment itself would appear as something detached from enlightenment and, for that matter, detached from daily life. Factual inconsistences like this just tell me the video is pointless to watch.
Adding to the above comment, they are correct. There is a large difference between 'sitting' and 'just sitting.' However, I would not go so far as to say this video is pointless. I'd encourage anyone interested to dig deeper into Zen, which traces its lineage, by way of Masters, back to Buddha. Be sure to read publications by actual Zen monks, the intellectuals fall short. Susuki is a great start. Alan watts, if you want a more entertaining time.
also, its "dogen." not "dojen." romaji is the easiest thing in the world to pronounce, and they still did it wrong... it feels insulting. "my names saul." "well, im gonna call you paul."
Hakuin Ekaku was _not_ the founder of Rinzai Zen. He revived Rinzai Zen after it had fallen into widespread neglect and stagnation. From Wiki: _The Chinese Linji school of Chan was first transmitted to Japan by Myōan Eisai (1141 -1215). Contemporary Japanese Rinzai is derived entirely from the Ōtōkan lineage transmitted through Hakuin Ekaku (1686-1769), who is a major figure in the revival of the Rinzai tradition._
Lately, as of a few days ago, I have been discussing such things as death, ego, void, dualism, with my friends. I was honored to have one of them ask me what death was, and she asked me where we go when we die. I told her, "Where were you before you were born? Where do you go when you fall asleep, but before you dream? This is all the same place as death". To stumble across this video which lays out and says exactly that, well, I must have been graced with zen understanding to have it line up so well with this video. Thank you for this video, it really is amazing.
Because the I is generated by the default mode network in the brain and when that shuts down (seen in various fMRI research) there is no I reference left haha
Easier said than done. While accepting that there is unborn (eternal) behind everthing, is a big big step that 99% of peopulation don't even want to accept, even after accepting/acknowleging it, living the remaining life (and maintaining same at your death) is the most difficult part and that is where practices of meditation comes to help your mind not sway around from what you have understood and accepted that there is unborn (eternal) beyond this existence and nothing that happens in this existence matter (or even other levels of existences).
Great video, I love them! But I would say 1 change Zen is not a direct translation of Dhyana. Zen is a translation from the Chinese word Chan, & Chan is a translation from Dhyana.
I came to this realization while meditating once. I was thinking of the universe before form. The Big Bang and stuff. I was like this state that I’m in feels familiar. It feels like an ever pervading consciousness but without form just awareness. I linked that to the universe and I completely agree with what banker taught!
Without eyes, can you see? Without ears, can you hear? It is a common misconception. Do not seek awareness. The only way to reach infinity is to give away your senses. Just be.
It is not lazy at all, it requires a lot of detachment, unless there is a different meaning to "lazy" which I do not know (English is not my native language).
and thats why I love silence , thats why I love loneliness, because I can focus on "emptyness" which is full in human eye invisible fullness.. when I am in silence when I am alone I am 100% focused on the eternal.
No one is already enlightened, most are like children, already grown but still making the same mistakes as that child they were. Only as an adult, you are idiotic when you keep making the same mistakes you've made all your life. If you think you already have enlightenment then this doesn't let you progress. Onyl through hard work can you progress, learn and become a better person than most who do not like to work hard. In the US we have enough lazy people who would probably heed to this philosophy. But it's mostly because they have been handed everything without having to work for it and it makes them more susceptible to this type of lifestyle. Put any of these zen leaders to work like immigrants and the low pay and disrespect they recieve in the US for 1000 hrs and I assure, unlike the immigrants these unborn will break and hit reality or just remain broken.
You are confusing behaviour with the state of awareness of being. They are not the same. Enlightenment is the knowingness that I am eternal, birthless and infinite and the higher awareness of the Spiritual Self permeates and transcends everything. Enlightenment is knowing that great Self. It has nothing to do with the mind or personality. The Self, Atman, has always been that; the personality-mind has never been that. Only That is That. You, as a person, are not it and never can be. The only difficulty with enlightenment and its attainment is that the awareness of Atman is so subtle and so abstract that the gross clumsy ignorant mind finds it very difficult to see and experience that subtle state. Hence most are in a state of ignorance of reality. Most will remain so.
enlightenment is an experience not a realization, if you don't have the experience you're not enlightened You cannot see or understand that cash, get **** everyone Have a good day These videos are all ****
true its anubhav/experience. because realisation can also have errors of assumptions. experience is direct witness. This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality. Ahambrahmasmi Tat vam asi Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
I exist before i am born while i experience duality as a man and am wrapped & rapt in flesh , I experience both light and dark then I return to all of it once again and do it infinitely until we all reach this conclusion. Mindfulness of others is all you need as knowing all others are you .
@Matt Mackane the Kybalion is the philosophical pole of the Vedas , the I am in the All within the all and the All in the all . Yes also Rumi ‘s I am the Ocean in the drop .
You had me at, "lazy".
😂😂😂
@@MoSherriCharlaSmith somebody should tell him about Susan's
I'm a lazy stoner, would be a good monk
same
No joke me too lol
"We don't practice to achieve enlightenment, we practice to express it"
That's deep. Thank you. 👍
I'll apply those words to myself from now on.
Well said!
We practice to recognize it.
But … isn’t that happening already ?
You have no reference point to judge objectively whether you have achived that enlightenment. Likely that you have not defined it at all. Thus you may well practice BS. But yes, as a quick funny shallow excuse, - works well. Gives you a smart look ))
the Seeker! my favorite story is that of a Buddha who discovers a new effort to enlightenment
😂 good one
I love he he taught and spoke to everyone equally. This eas probably rate back then.
Amazing and well explained. Alot of people use enlightenment for gain and put their own spin on it like getting a haircut at a barber but they put their own touch even though its not whay you asked. This will help me on my journey tyvm.
I once attempted to join the path of the Mahayana. For varying reasons I never quite committed to it but I always kept my interest in walking the path. If I ever take on more direct teachings it will be because of these videos and I just wanted to share my appreciation.
I largely agree with Bankei. What he calls the Unborn, I call the Absolute. This was a lovely video.
The Unborn sounds a lot like the Tao as it manifests within us.
Just another name for something that cannot be named.
Mahayana Buddhism drew heavily on Taoism and got a lot more traction once it did so
@@mikek7660 Careful about labels, the truth can have none.
Wonderful
Thanks for this beautiful video! I was wondering if the 'quoted summary' introduction (0:10-0:25) comes from a manuscript (if so, which one?), or composed by by you as a summary from different sources (if so, then than I would say you are a master too).
Bankei and William James would have gotten along so well.
ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth
enjoy that i guess...
How many people see A? Do you feel the manners of how? Where are you knowing to live in the manners of IIIIIIIII ? ??
In Gassho 🙏🏼 Namu Amida Butsu ☸️
Bankei sounds like a guy who was probably hilarious to be around. It sounds like he really understood how life can all be one great joke if you let it. Saying "Just sit and you've achieved Zen" was probably both hilarious and absolutely serious to him. In a way, it understands everything, and then mocks it in the way only true understanding can. It is quintessentially knowing that both everything and nothing matters. Neither contradicts the other, but rather, the juxtaposition of the two is, in itself, a hilarious joke.
And a hilarious joke can be something to be treasured for its infinite value.
It is not a joke. It is not serious. These adjectives are “forms”to use his terminology. If you want to understand read the Buddhas teaching of the four extremes. If you do not understand the four extremes you will always fall back into conceptual habits. All that can be described is conceptual. Enlightenment is not anything, it is what springs from that state which is funny, or beautiful, or any other thing that life can bring. Enlightenment is truly just undoing the mistaken identification with these attributes rather than that which transcends them.
May you be free.
Tashi!
My oldest childhood friend has vascular dementia.Its a sad kind of joke,however one looks at it✌️
You should listen Osho. He was an odious figure, but i've found many simularities between then.
I'm not sure how the children around the world screaming out for help as they die from dehydration and starvation is "one great joke"
This makes sense. Our desire for enlightenment hinders our path to enlightenment. It has always been there, closer to us than we realize.
i have no desire to be enlightened. i want to be high 24/24 but without drugs, with my own supply is that desire bad? i don't care about being enlightened
@@bollvigblack 😩
@@bollvigblack Yes, you crave stimulation. You crave that feeling of being "high". That might hinder your progress and make you impatient for something you expect to happen eventually.
Have you met anyone like that? Or heard of anyone who achieved that? If so, ask them or copy what they did. If not use your imagination (probably like this Bankee guy did) also I hear good things about chat gpt. Good luck report back here when you get it 👍
@@SowiniBushido Well, you crave answering his comment on this comment section, hypocrate that you are. I for instance, a truly enlighneted being, will cease to crave anything after that comment that i write right now. After that, i will cease all movement and perheps die of starvation. And when people slap my face saying i am in a catatonic state, i won't answer, for i don't even crave their comfort and well being nor mine. I don't even crave having a good life. A crappy life and a good life is the same for me. For i am truly enlightned
If you understand that there's ''nothing you need to do in order to be enlightened'', and that ''you are as enlightened as you will ever be all the time'', then what's left is the things you're willing to put yourself through in order to feel deserving of this state of mind.
The fastest shortcut to Awareness is to pay attention to the Empty Open Space around you, shift focus from objects to the Nothingness around you or if you find the objects distracting then stare into the night sky on a cloudless night. You will feel a silent stillness and hear a tinnitus type ringing in the ears: you are Home.
But what do we do if thoughts are always distracting us 🙏
are you sure the tinnitus ring isnt from 5g wifi blasting everyone in the domes?
@@ograda3120 I believe my brother causes my tinnitus, but I have had it for much longer than he was alive... Perhaps he was causing it from the womb.
@@BillSikes. i think it takes practice to be in the silent now, so to speak... Hope your thoughts wont make you give up meditation and such☺️
Either that, or you have tinnitus.
Ironically, all the seriousness we put into tradition and teachings studies makes us turn around and not simply live what buda proposes.
Zen Buddhism is so special.... I would be dead today if it weren't for one, kind, monk. Saved my life on a mountain during a blizzard.
"I"..."dead"..."today"... is ego. 😉
Zen is a Taoist philosophy idiot🤡
@@threepercenter0377 ego is part of the world too :) yours has a flavor that's stirred up mine
Jung saw the ego as the centre of the field of consciousness which contains our conscious awareness of existing and a continuing sense of personal identity.
@Shreyan Sen I like the way you phrased that.
This really illustrates the influence of the Tao, it and the unborn seem not dissimilar
Actually, Tao and Yoga are much older (also Shinto, I feel) and quite compatible with each other. They have exchanged ideas over centuries before Buddhism became state religion. It kept some of its yoga roots, made its own yoga. It has been struggling over milennia towards and away from it. Happily Dogen gave it a nudge back, and now we can learn from each other.
6:17 - "Bankei's teachings on The Unborn were a radical departure from the traditional Zen teachings of his time, which often focused on meditation and ascetic practices."
You can argue that his teaching *methods* were a departure, but the teaching itself certainly was not. It is the very same teaching as the teachings of The Diamond Sutra, of Boddhidharma, Huang Po, Rinzai, Dogen, Basui, Hakuin, and many others.
This video overstates doctrinal differences and makes basic errors regarding the various schools of Zen. Also, accusing any Zen school of "ascetic practices" is a grave accusation indeed. All Zen traditions remind us that Shakyamuni Buddha himself rejected asceticism.
I am really grateful
Your Channel is something I really needed
The quality you maintain is commendable
❤️🙏
Vedantin here. Excellent video - thank you ❤
I heard that Nagarjuna said that; One should not hold on to Emptiness
Likewise, Gaudapada Acharya in Mandukya Karika said not to hold on to Advaita.
These teachers are using different words & methods, for the same Meaning.
Emptiness of Form is Fullness of Being. Is Fullness of Form same as Emptiness of Being?
The Unborn transcends yet is immanent in Empirical Reality.
Even the text above has to be dropped.
🕉️Tat Tvam Asi🕉️
You forget, Jim Carrey suggests we embrace our power of intention.
@@entropy608 Sorry to disappoint, I was just trolling
@Matt Mackane Brilliant! Drop all concepts just like seeing wave as nothing but water.
@@selvamthiagarajan8152 😂 No worries, matey! It was a well-intentioned post 🤣
@@entropy608 😸
What a character Bankei is! Thank you for this great presentation.🙏
Of all the Buddhist things I have studied and read this one makes the most sense. We already have enlightenment, but it's within us the whole time. Our thoughts and opinions like our bodies have a form, and everything with formed begins and ends. But Enlightenment and Consciousness are formless, unborn so to speak, yet ever-present.
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality.
Ahambrahmasmi
Tat vam asi
Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
@Charger Dave it is your opinion it is hard to let go of things that do not serve you? why do you hold on to the grime and dirt if you know it's not real?
@Charger Dave you seem very educated in other people's opinions but do you think for yourself? whatever you believe is true it doesn't matter. no I did not need an answer to my question, because it's not true for me, it was to get you to really think about what you wrote.
your pure at any stage if you choose to be or your not if you believe your not yet. your personal relationship with the divine determines that nothing else
@@Sun-ng7gj hey hey. No need for any debate. Let's just accept what is as what is and be done with it
Everyone here including you and me, we are all just manifestations of the same pure and beginning and deathless Power. And like all other things it was never outside, for every great thing in the world began within us. Tribes, Empires, democracies, Technologies, different forms of Spiritual Awakening, I can make a list but I won't. I've already made my point
This video is a beautiful illustration of the truth of Lao Tzu's assertion: Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.
The essence of Bankei's teaching is this simple: stop thinking. What is left is the Unborn. Remain there; live there.
It reminds me of the Tao of the uncarved block.
So in essence when the default mode network get’s shut down (where I vs other and I in time lives aka thinking stops), only the unborn is left.
@@Mandy-rl9vc nailed it🖖
Hi, this is actually from Upanishads. It is however, possible that Lao Tzu spoke pf it, cause at the end of the day, they are all the same truth.
@@bismayroychoudhury4288 first you should know timeage of both events...Laotsu was born 2600 years ago while upishads hardly old 1500-1800 years....So Upnishads stole teachings of Laotzu
From what I learned, the most important meditation techniques to do are:
- do nothing
- mindfulness
- self inquiry
That seems right to me, or am I overcomplicating things?
Who's asking this question?
@@TockaMea I?
What a madlad, meditates for decades and the great insight he got was that meditating for decades was a waste of time
He lives in a four by two glass box that reminds me of my head
I wish my floor would have rocks, but it's covered with puddles instead
If I could be him, life would be great
I could erase this permanent frown
I wouldn't even be held down by my own weight
I woke up walked to the tank to hear his thoughts on yesterday
"How was it?" I asked And after a tap on the glass
He looked my way then gave me this depressed expression
And pressed his best just to say;
"Besides the tides and the grey skies, it was ok!"
And I said< "Hey mister fish, you did all that you wish
You got nothing to complain about while hanging out in this abyss"
And he replied "Well existence is bliss, there's so much that you missed
Besides get off the trip, happiness is just a myth"
I said "Living in water is extremely more peaceful than life confined to a mind
Blinded by evil, and forced to see through these two peep holes
It seems I've redeemed freedom, not being limited by walls
But that only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls
That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls
That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls
That only means I qualify as ground for the sky when it falls'
But Mr. Fish just laughed as I went on and on and on
So I interrupted his chuckle, putting up a middle finger
And he boldly told me it's too bad I'm such a thinker
So Arrogantly I asked "How could someone think too much?"
He added that insanity lingers and thoughts brought me to the brink of such
He said "You live inside a head that reminds me of my glass box
And everyone's the same; all brains are contained by your reality frame
And chained to the terrain, it's trained not to change
And once you see what I've explained you hit the jackpot"
And at that very moment it was like my eyes really opened
The air that previously surrounded me was now an ocean
Still totally invisible except for minor pieces of debris
Then Mr. Fish pushed up to the glass and he looked just like me
My whole world spun around, I didn't understand
But I realized I was no longer a man
So I thought about what he said and asked him what was going on
And he said, "You didn't know it but you were the fish all along"
He said, "Congratulations, you did it, you broke free
You're just a fish, like the rest of humanity"
Now it took me a long time to get adjusted to this tank
But now I know what I am, and so to that man I give thanks
I've always lived inside this glass box that reminds him of his head
It just goes to show ya that your mind is your own monster
Reality is what you make it, and if you take it away
You're just a fish, like me, swimming in the powdered water.
Songwriter- Eyedea & Abilities
Reality = That which is.
That which is/That I am.
Really appreciate you posting. So well written. 🙏🏽
This is the next step beyond existentialism! Literally, this is the best answer to nihilism I have watched. Well, it also takes solipsism into consideration. Literally we don't know nothing for sure, we are our own perception of time and experience. So we can't ever prove even the concept of ourselves exists because time is an illusion of that consciousness, and we think we are consciousness because we know about our memories of existing. So in the end nothing is really meaningful, nothing has a purpose and we don't even exist, so, let's have the best life we can and satisfy our desires and feelings of obligation while limiting our worries but without feeling shame about having some. Let's live the best life we can create, because that is what you will do regardless. This even fix the problem of the universe being deterministic.
Nihilism is the truth though. There is no point to the experience, just like any other form of leisure, the experience is the point.
The tortured nihilist and the laughing Buddha see the same reality. But they see in two different ways.
@@ahobimo732 I agree, and i think absurdism is closer to buddhism because nihilism is not the end of thought yet.
As @Ben the Peaceful Forage-Garden Inhabitant said, experience is the objective itself. If you try to see through the experience u will always see emptiness, either if its your 'objective' or not. Fear emptiness and you will fear life...embrace it and u will finally start living
your ''desires'' aren't real either. Realize that, and your sufferings and fears will disappear too
Too much thinking yet on life's meaningful meaninglessness. Kai!
As a Buddhist I really appreciate the wonderful videos you make about Buddhism! Best wishes my friends! 🙏
Correct me if i am wrong but, Advaita vedanta speaks about this as being "intellectually realised", they go on further to say that most people stop at this but apparently there are more levels to this,
being energetically realised, state of being bodyless etc...
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it.
Ahambrahmasmi
Tat vam asi
Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
Yes I second this!
@@brandonmehrg Ramana Maharishi was a not a Maharishi, but a mere charlatan. Please unlearn his so called teachings. Be unborn like this Japanese guy suggests.
@@owleye391 As a relative newcomer to eastern philosophy, Bankei's concept of "unbourne" seems to parallel the platonic "world of eternal abstract forms". Is this a valid comparison? Sorry I can't address your point about the vedanta.
Oh heavens, Bankei's teachings are SO like Advaita Vedanta! That which is not born and therefore cannot die, is called the Atman. Pronounced Aathmun, not to sound like Batman 😂
In the end we see that all paths are essentially the same, how could the truth be anything else?
@@donvanevery3235 whoa, friend, whoa! How about religions that state categorically that you'll roast in hell forever if you don't submit to their deities?
@@OnlineMD Well, two of the three which supposedly say that don't really say that. The punishment is temporal, the effects are eternal. Fear not the one who destroys body, but both body and the essential identity which it produced in life (soul).
I don't believe in an immortal soul because that's not what the text says anywhere and the world believes it says we're immortal when it continually says that we're mortal and die, our knowledge and memory and emotion doesn't go with us, and who knows what happens to the being? Sheol is a question, as in, 'What is it?'
The Breath of Life seems to me the Atman, the core of life is breath (flow between polarities). It doesn't have self from us and really it isn't ours to say we own.
@@OnlineMD Those are the parts obviously written by the ideals and desires of men, and their perspective.
Let's not forget about the how to on selling your daughter as a sex slave, that's a part of the "good book" but it is also dense with divine truth.
Which is why they say.. The best lies are the ones closest to the truth..
@@OnlineMD There is no atman in Buddhism.
@0:36, correction: Buddhism was started in Gaya of Bihar IN. Dzogchen was Tibetan practice, not Chinese.
Bankei's teachings/methods sound very similar to those of Krishnamurti. Humorous, straight to the point, no bullshit, acknowledging that "enlightenment" isn't something to achieve because you're already there.
Wu wei.
yes wu wei, samadhi, nirwana, unborn. same thing in different language
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality.
Ahambrahmasmi
Tat vam asi
Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
What a compassionate being to bring o us such a basic and easy message!
You think that is an easy message? If it was thousands of buddhists would be enlightened now, and they are not. And why not? because the mind cannot see beyond itself, and the unborn is extremely subtle and ungraspable by nature. As soon as you seek to grasp it it retreats into itself. It is unborn because it is unmade and everything else is made and has a form. The formless does nothing, has nothing, is nothing; and the paradox is that it is everything, infinite and eternal, the Unbecoming, the unexpressed, the Unmanifest Timeless. It is always there, so why is it not seen and known? Because we are always looking somewhere else, at form and structure. It is a complete abstraction. So seek the Abstract, not the phenomenal. Do not look at what is there, loof for what is not there. And where is that? In the abstract and subtle regions of consciousness, and that means we have to let go of the exterior and surrender to the most inward and fall into the Nameless reality of not-isness. You cannot use the mind to find the not-mind. All you can do is to allow everything to be as it is and just rest, relax, and be at peace. Then you abide in Infinity. This is my everyday reality. All we can do is to learn to collapse and surrender, and that is not at all easy for a restless mind. Enlightenment is abstract consciousness which is just there, nowhere, and not looking for anything. For me the key was to open up to the formless abstraction of life and consciousness, which is Nothingness and Silence, the none-movement of mind, unmade and uncontrived.
The unborn is like undifferentiated stem cells for reality! 😊
This is exactly what's going on in my mind for months
it's cool when you find a tradition or some teaching that confirms your own insight isn't it? I've learned to be careful with it though. No need to keep seeking, you've already got it. You can get lost in seeking further confirmation. It's a funny thing at times.
Beautiful. Thank you.
Hey. My dating life doesn't suck. It's just "unborn". In some alternate world. Girls absolutely love me.
If dust can not land where can problems originate???
From others. Cocreators. From their memory. You may be free but they are never going to forget.
Wow. That was just beautiful. Such direct, simple truth. I am so glad to have come across Buddha’s teachings in this lifetime.
have you read any of Buddha's lectures?
Zen Buddhism was originated in India 🇮🇳 not in China. Spirituality was first born in India from India it was spread all over the world 🌍
The Chinese and Japanese cultures are totally influenced by Indian culture.
If your seeking genuine lazy enlightenment look no further that Robert ( Bob ) Monroe , I was a Buddhist for 26 years and learned more in a fortnight at the Monroe institution than in all those years of Navelgazing …. Good luck on your journey . fellow seekers x
Well, in this case, look for Frank Kepple. He discovered what Monroe was trying to understand, but did not understand. For instance, Frank was able to understand that we live in a system comprised of four major areas of consciousness. One is the area of physical objective worlds and their manifestations, another is the objective non-physical world, another the subjective non-physical world, and the other the area of creativity. In fact, through his out of body experiences, he was able to understand that in truth we don't reincarnate.........that what we see as our past lives are actually the lives of our counterparts. He was also able to explain the fact that karma is nothing more than a religious belief system.
Frank was a very gentle soul . The whole theme of reincarnation was added similar to Christian hell ….. the only caveat is one must truly believe in a afterlife your “through forms” create a type of Architectural Egregore ie Christian heaven .. I’ve made several attempts searching for friends who have disembodied but sadly for them they believed death to be the -end all- I don’t know where they go , I couldn’t find them , many will cling to this physical realm out of fear .. in all it’s very sad
@@halcyon2864 Well, when three different people come up with the same exact perspective, then we need to take a look.
@@3ruffians84 Whether one believes or does not believe in the afterlife matters not. What will be, will always be. Just because one doesn't know or is not sure, won't change one's predicament other than the thought and the idea itself. As for myself, i'm clinging to this physical life...............i find it somewhat exciting, fascinating sometimes (not that it used to be like this for me :) Well, my challenge is to live for over 900 years old and be able to express my inner abilities. I guess i'm challenging the whole world. :)
Enlightenment takes literally no effort
We're all born with this knowledge. It is our goal in this life to remember that.
It´s like the "O" in "OG" 😁
One correction- It was Ashtavakra (the crooked ancient Indian saint) that came with this concept. He was the first person to talk about enlightenment. He lived way before buddha during lord Ramas era. Plz read Ashtavakra Gita if anyone wants highly detailed knowledge. It will change your life.
What means crooked
I´d rather say twisted than crooked. And I´d rather say sage than saint....@@himanshusharma-tm4zi
Just 2 words to entire team
Thank you 🙏🙏
no thank you, no duality here, there is no "me", no "you". Just "Thank".
@@selvamthiagarajan8152 wahhhhaaaaa Masha Allah 🙏🙏
@@keammaha990 Namaste brother ji
"If there is nothing from the start where can the dust alight?"
If there is nothing from the start, where can happiness alight?
This is my dilemma with these teachings. Should I sacrifice the feeling of happiness, beauty just to not feel pain and suffering?
Why not feel both and try to not get attached to any of them?
I am "born" at the moment, it might have a reason. Why shouldn't i focus more on the "unborn" after i loose my form (death)?
Please release this 16:06 , i would love to hear it in full❤
There is no instant enlightenment. Unless you cleared your trauma, wounds, repressed emotions, feelings, and integrated your shadow. Sure the Light Self is always present and this is always the case. However, this knowledge is not sufficient for a human being to become whole and integrated. It is not a cognitive understanding thing. One must heal their reincarnating Soul and this takes decades of inner work. Once the shadow is purged, then the ego must lose its attachments and integrate with the Soul. This is Self Realization. The Light Body is above this and if one can integrate their Soul with their Light Body or "causal Self" one becomes free, full of bliss and joy, and one transcends duality.
I love this video so much. I like to call "the born"... mother nature... Miss Maya... Matrix... Samsara!!!
I'm too lazy to watch this video; can someone summarize it for me? 😉
something about doujin idk
Bankei does talk like a used car salesman, and there were even stories made about him coming back as a fox spirit for steering people wrong, but when you know everything else in the whole zen and Buddhist everything, it starts to make perfect sense in strange ways to the scholar, and the masses did make what they wanted of it - remind you of any religions, haha.There was alot not written down - In all, out of everything you should keep a good bankei book around regardless. There's something in it. Something worth including in the big Cannon, if even just to light the fuse.
Lazy to see this long video need enlightment in shorts
Bankei…fresh & freeing me from me-ing!☺️👨🎨🎨🎼👍🥰💫
I just read: The lazy way to enlightenment and I immediately knew: This is my way. 😀
This was... very logical. Yet I remain perplexed by the apparent contradiction of our 'born' existence. What purpose does experiencing a 'born' state fulfills for the unborn? If the unborn is complete, what function does 'incompleteness' serves? Why are we here if we don't want or need to be here at all? It seems completely pointless.
Unborn is just a term for a thing that cannot be explained, it needs to be realized directly. This reality is a process of the universe understanding itself, it is infinite in nature, but because it’s infinite it can’t marvel at itself from its perspective, so it needs to limit itself into humans or other living beings to experience itself. It’s like a VR game
OMFG! THE NARRATOR! MOOOOOORE! MAKE MORE PLEASE!!! Such a beautiful ideology! For it is truly foolish to claim mastery over any one or any thing. We're all students from a perspective or another
But then you see lots of crippled looking people and lots that look like shopping zombies on the street and cannot not feel superior.
Born is everything that ties us to the wheel. We latch on to anything that comes in front of our senses. Before any action is born …. Hey your buildings there i know were that is. The cubes. Shit something got born
Andrea Giordani Amazing Narrator. amazing research.thank you.i needed this in my life because am in that state In life. Learning more bout ZEN.
Try listening to “simply always awake” out of all teachers and speakers, he has the most pure and direct words, it feels like magic
@@TrollAndAlta okay. Thanks.
Btw despite Buddhist emphasis non-self and Advaita Hindu focus on ultimate-Self; which seem at different ends of the spectrum - the end result is the same.
☺️✨..hi ppl... I'm really satisfied and thankful to the teachings of different Buddhist scholars over times. This concept of unborn or Zen teachings of enlightenment is nothing but the concept of qualities of Atman😌🌼✨. This might be explained in different perspectives of scholars, but it's same one thing- The Atman.
They forgot the wisdom and Honorary Rules (Clean vs unclean ritual purification baptism Mikveh Pure Heart) taught by Confucius, Zoroaster, and all the prophets that taught the Law correspondent and respective of the Mandate of Heaven Only begotten Son of the Lord of Heaven the High Priest and only true living Emperor Jesus Christ; The replacement of Adam the First Man concerning authority and dominion whereby Jesus Christ is the literal Body of God the Heavenly Father. Unborn Zen is a lie that claims to provide peace lol while idealizing a simple fact of the mechanics of nature.
Awesome.
Everyday you wake-up is a great day.
You can't separate from which you came.
You got as many "great" days as you have non-great days
If Zen is the realization that "I am already there," then it did not start in China, nor after Buddha. Ashtavakra muni taught it to king Janak (father of mata Sita, in Treta yuga - at least 869,000 years ago). The text is called Ashtavakra Gita.
Thank you.
Everyone is enlightened and no one knows it. The path is long and stretches out before you endlessly, yet there is nothing to do. The one truth encompasses and transcends duality. Take off your shoes, leave your hat at the door, you're late for supper, won't you have some more?
True that there is nothing to do..........well, other than having fun exploring whatever it is we choose to be exploring. I'm presently exploring making sourdough bread. Now, the way i see it, is that there is no path other than what we choose to believe is there as a path.
@@halcyon2864 The way to purify your mind is to do nothing, enlightenment is the state of nothing
@@halcyon2864 Sub Ishwar Hai.
@@SpiritualReform God dreams He is you.
@@itsdeadshot2501 Nothing is the opposite of something, the great enlightenment transcends all opposites by embracing duality.
Nothingness is a quality, the clear light of the void. Think Zen.
"I am the dust at your feet and the mountain you cannot climb."
Look in the mirror, do you see me? I am everywhere. Yet I is an illusion. ⛩️
"The unborn" is "Turiya" state according to Advaita Vedanta philosophy.
I love the mantras chanted in these videos.
This made too much sense and for some reason made me happy. Thank you I really appreciate it.
Zen Buddhism cannot teach its Zenith until their priests become circumcised in their old foul ways for, when it comes 2 true disciples, let them all seek St. Thomas of Yeshua, True Christ, making all glow!
Wow! Just discovered this channel and it's already two amazing videos in a row.. this one was spectacular just as the one on Douglas Harding and the headless approach. If I may suggest a theme inside Buddhism the Mahamudra teachings are also amazing.
Showing map of India and saying comes from china😂😂 Gautam Buddha Siddharth was from India not from China
The unborn is one's subconscious: become conscious of your subconscious
Subconscious is a concept. Not unborn. Unborn is best described as ....
Yes and so what is the point? To let go? Why? To not to suffer? Why suffer in the first place? Why be born than? Something is missing.
Unborn = Being aware of being aware.
@Matt Mackane That which is, that is nothing in particular (actual), is by definition everything in general (potential).
Potential = Being
Actual = Becoming (actualized)
Because the potential for actualization is Infinite, the actualization of potential is Eternal, for only Eternity can fully embrace Infinity.
The consciousness teachings are also known as concession teachings, as they are a concession to a more limited level of Understanding, a Piscean as through a glass darkly teachings. Now, in the Aquarian age, we can see face to face with crystal clarity. Otherwise, we are stuck with consciousness functioning consciously and unconsciously simultaneously, which is self-contradicting.
Since Creative Intelligence functions consciously and unconsciously simultaneously, consciousness is what something does, not what something is.
That which is/That I am.
Freedom is a Way of Being. Being aware of being aware is unmodulated by the 5 senses, thus unfettered, which is the resonant inner state frequency closest in alignment with the frequency of the all-inclusive Absolute, where all things are possible (Wisdom and Understanding).
The Rhythm of Life is a movement and a rest. The optimum (Heaven), is always found somewhere between the extremes of too much and too little (hell).
Pleasantness is the Rose found at the Heart of the Optimum. Just so.
Narrow is the Way, and few there are that find it.
The only illusion is the illusion of duality or separateness. We are all It, to an unknowable/inexhaustible extent, as the facets of a Diamond are 'both' distinct from each other 'and' the Diamond itself.
Love is the recognition of our shared Being.
What appears as separate and opposite, is in Reality - Continuum.
This is a fragment of the highest teaching.
Let those with the eyes to see and ears to hear do so.
Namaste'.
Aahhh yes finally just sitting is amazing why can’t having lots of sex be an expression of enlightenment 😅
Buddhism originated in India not China
I love this. It sounds so similar to what Ashtavakra taught way before Bankei. I love both Hinduism and Buddhism. They are so similar.
Of course.. the Buddha was Indian, he simply omitted the deities and the idea of an atman, because he knew people's propensity to think in separatness
@@donvanevery3235 Yes bro I'm Buddha and I can confirm I am Indian.
@@nishanpakhrin7392 Thank you 🙏
Well, key difference between Hinduism and Buddhism is Buddha never believed in caste system whereas Hinduism still upholds it . Buddha believed everyone irrespective of their birth can become a teacher not restricted one particular caste
@@newbegining7046 Hinduism was originated from Ancient India whereas Buddhism from Ancient Nepal.
Had they not influenced hinduism in Nepal.
We would have been one of the most peaceful countries.
This caste system is affecting people in my country till now.
I can't understand why hinduism is followed strongly in Nepal despite how ignorant Indians have been with the birth and origin of Buddha, it's baffling to me because we had to sign petition of Buddha being born in Nepal just for the sake of truth otherwise a strong country like India would rewrite the history on their favour.
Sadhu sadhu
Hakuin Ekaku wasn't the founder of Rinzai Zen, Rinzai Gigen was; hence the name. Rinzai is a lot older then you have described it as being and was the form of Zen taught in Japan when Dogen was growing up. The Tendai tradition that Dogen was a student within Japan is a form of Rinzai.
Furthermore, Dogen was not the founder of Soto Zen, he was the person who introduced Soto Zen into Japan. Therefore, it is often explained that he is the the founder of the 'Japanese' school of Soto Zen. He was taught Soto Zen during his time in China.
Also why change what Dogen said about practice being enlightenment itself. You have said practice is an expression of enlightenment, but that is not what he said he said 'practice is enlightenment'. It is important not to get that correct because if practice was merely an express then enlightenment itself would appear as something detached from enlightenment and, for that matter, detached from daily life.
Factual inconsistences like this just tell me the video is pointless to watch.
Adding to the above comment, they are correct. There is a large difference between 'sitting' and 'just sitting.' However, I would not go so far as to say this video is pointless. I'd encourage anyone interested to dig deeper into Zen, which traces its lineage, by way of Masters, back to Buddha. Be sure to read publications by actual Zen monks, the intellectuals fall short. Susuki is a great start. Alan watts, if you want a more entertaining time.
also, its "dogen." not "dojen." romaji is the easiest thing in the world to pronounce, and they still did it wrong... it feels insulting. "my names saul." "well, im gonna call you paul."
@@kier4107 butt hurt over words lmao bruh never had a real problem in thier life
You know this reminds me of when I watched Iron fist kind of. But they delved deep into any of these teachings. Would've made the show better.
Well this archetypal teacher currently occupies the body known as Mooji. Really enjoying this.
reincarnation u mean?
Wow. What a really cool video!! Keep up the great job
Hakuin Ekaku was _not_ the founder of Rinzai Zen. He revived Rinzai Zen after it had fallen into widespread neglect and stagnation. From Wiki:
_The Chinese Linji school of Chan was first transmitted to Japan by Myōan Eisai (1141 -1215). Contemporary Japanese Rinzai is derived entirely from the Ōtōkan lineage transmitted through Hakuin Ekaku (1686-1769), who is a major figure in the revival of the Rinzai tradition._
Errrrr Hakuin invented Rinzai? Then Master Rinzai invented....ramen?
Lately, as of a few days ago, I have been discussing such things as death, ego, void, dualism, with my friends.
I was honored to have one of them ask me what death was, and she asked me where we go when we die.
I told her, "Where were you before you were born? Where do you go when you fall asleep, but before you dream? This is all the same place as death".
To stumble across this video which lays out and says exactly that, well, I must have been graced with zen understanding to have it line up so well with this video.
Thank you for this video, it really is amazing.
I understand being open to that possibility, but how can you be so sure?
Because the I is generated by the default mode network in the brain and when that shuts down (seen in various fMRI research) there is no I reference left haha
@@ianlicko5980 Practice.
You have practiced what it's like to be dead or unborn?
@@ianlicko5980No, I practice zen.
Easier said than done. While accepting that there is unborn (eternal) behind everthing, is a big big step that 99% of peopulation don't even want to accept, even after accepting/acknowleging it, living the remaining life (and maintaining same at your death) is the most difficult part and that is where practices of meditation comes to help your mind not sway around from what you have understood and accepted that there is unborn (eternal) beyond this existence and nothing that happens in this existence matter (or even other levels of existences).
Great video, I love them! But I would say 1 change Zen is not a direct translation of Dhyana. Zen is a translation from the Chinese word Chan, & Chan is a translation from Dhyana.
The character is the same. 禪 is pronounced Chan in Chinese but zen in Japanese
Hope this helps😊
It’s like advaita vedanta
Zen is also a nondual teaching. I would say that even western religions are if you know how to interpret them accordingly.
The _g_ in _Dogen_ is pronounced as a hard _g._ Pronouncing it as a soft "g" like a "j" is wrong.
I came to this realization while meditating once. I was thinking of the universe before form. The Big Bang and stuff. I was like this state that I’m in feels familiar. It feels like an ever pervading consciousness but without form just awareness. I linked that to the universe and I completely agree with what banker taught!
Without eyes, can you see? Without ears, can you hear? It is a common misconception. Do not seek awareness. The only way to reach infinity is to give away your senses. Just be.
@@dimasgomez I’m not sure what your point is or what answering your questions would prove?
@@xavierjones6048 Dimas agrees.
It is not lazy at all, it requires a lot of detachment, unless there is a different meaning to "lazy" which I do not know (English is not my native language).
thank you for your work!
and thats why I love silence , thats why I love loneliness, because I can focus on "emptyness" which is full in human eye invisible fullness.. when I am in silence when I am alone I am 100% focused on the eternal.
Nice form and format, delivery is very fluid reminds me of a person with a phd in Buddhism who is still searching for something 😊
No one is already enlightened, most are like children, already grown but still making the same mistakes as that child they were. Only as an adult, you are idiotic when you keep making the same mistakes you've made all your life. If you think you already have enlightenment then this doesn't let you progress.
Onyl through hard work can you progress, learn and become a better person than most who do not like to work hard. In the US we have enough lazy people who would probably heed to this philosophy. But it's mostly because they have been handed everything without having to work for it and it makes them more susceptible to this type of lifestyle. Put any of these zen leaders to work like immigrants and the low pay and disrespect they recieve in the US for 1000 hrs and I assure, unlike the immigrants these unborn will break and hit reality or just remain broken.
You are confusing behaviour with the state of awareness of being. They are not the same. Enlightenment is the knowingness that I am eternal, birthless and infinite and the higher awareness of the Spiritual Self permeates and transcends everything. Enlightenment is knowing that great Self. It has nothing to do with the mind or personality. The Self, Atman, has always been that; the personality-mind has never been that. Only That is That. You, as a person, are not it and never can be. The only difficulty with enlightenment and its attainment is that the awareness of Atman is so subtle and so abstract that the gross clumsy ignorant mind finds it very difficult to see and experience that subtle state. Hence most are in a state of ignorance of reality. Most will remain so.
enlightenment is an experience not a realization, if you don't have the experience you're not enlightened You cannot see or understand that cash, get **** everyone Have a good day These videos are all ****
true its anubhav/experience. because realisation can also have errors of assumptions. experience is direct witness.
This ls exactly Advaita Vedanta (Nonduality/Shiva) the Atman/Brahman, the unborn/ajanma is eternal, infinite, formless, beginningless, endless, absolute ultimate nondual reality and is in all forms hence all forms are manifestions of it and exists in it only. Shiva is in me, Shiva is outside of me. everything is in Shiva hence everything is Shiva/Shakti, YingYang. even his humanoid form is one of the manifestations of itself (that's an example of omnipotence that it is not limited and stuck in one state). infinite in finite (so deep almost illogical but there is only logic in the depth if understood properly). All paths are same and lead to same goal. like all rivers flow in same global ocean. with different flavours only so choose what you like. it's also freedom of reality so the freedom and bondage are balanced afterall. basically scientifically it means pure nondual energy shakti / quantum field is manifesting into everything that exists and is present in everything(everyform) that exists and it's always in state of samadhi/nirwana/kaivalya/yogasth/sukladhyana/ultra-instincts which has potential to create this world. just like in dream state whole dream world is manifestation of the pure consciousness which is nothing but that pure energy. so Shiva and Shakti are one and the same coin with 2 sides. like a flame is same but has 2 qualities heat and light. pure consciousness/pure energy is the fabric of existence and everything is vowen with it and dissolved in it. all ancient Rishis(sages), buddhas, Yogis, Siddhas, Aghoris, Sanyasis, Sadhus, Sants, priests teach same thing and different parts of the same thing but still they fight as if they are talking different thing how shameless. those who fight have lost the way not enlightened. they expose themself 😂. such is that beautiful/intellegent ultimate infinite nondual reality.
Ahambrahmasmi
Tat vam asi
Shivoham🙏🙏🙏
Please turn down the speed of your vintage/film grain filter
I exist before i am born while i experience duality as a man and am wrapped & rapt in flesh , I experience both light and dark then I return to all of it once again and do it infinitely until we all reach this conclusion. Mindfulness of others is all you need as knowing all others are you .
@Matt Mackane perfect yes , still hard for me to consistently hold onto :)
@Matt Mackane the Kybalion is the philosophical pole of the Vedas , the I am in the All within the all and the All in the all . Yes also Rumi ‘s I am the Ocean in the drop .
All these teachings are derived from VEDA'S. INDIA Is mother of all teachings
All I heard was "blah blah..India...Blah..the best..blah blah..pride..blah".
Sorry, but my mind has a automatic filter of BS