Got my 22 Limited OTT tuned today. It’s unreal. Best $400 I ever spent. Can’t wait to drive it again to work tomorrow with a heavy load. If you’re on the fence about a tune, you’re cheating yourself. It’s surreal how good it is. And the optional ECT button mode is insane
@@Sam-kn2mm technically yeah, but only if you walk into the dealer and announce that you had it tuned. There is no way for the dealer to tell, the ECU reads as stock if they check it. Get serviced at the dealer regularly, not worried at all.
The KDMax 6.0 is two years old. Almost any tune is better at this point. KDMax came out with the ‘9.0’ and called it the “KDMax 9.0” weeks before OTT made their “9.0.” That said, both OTT and KDMax are excellent tunes and will make the driver very happy.
2016 Tacoma sport double cab 4WD 6’ bed. KD Max 2.0 couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Fixes stock Toyota crap drivability. Trailer pulling outstanding, even through hills and mountains.
I’ve been running the OTT tune since Dec ‘23. I got the mild/med tune. I’m impressed with the power curve and you can definitely feel in in the 2k-3k rpm range. The only complaint that I have is that I’m still not happy with the shifting. Even when I’m using the pedal, it seems like the truck still downshifts way too much even on the slightest of inclines. Note: I’m only running 265/70R17’s. Also during local (in town) driving and I’m light on the throttle it like to jump back and forth between 5th and 6th gear way too much. The truck seems to drive its best with ECT Power button on.
You may also want to look at a company called D3performance. They specialize in toyota's. All toyota's. They offer a module with 6 preset tunes or you can develop your own custom one. They also offer a 30 day money back return policy.
Great vid. The KDMAX is on the 10.0 tune. I just did mine on the 10.0 and lost 1 mpg but fixed the trans issues including the radar cruise. Also gained power.
Fantastic! Just got a new 2023 Tacoma 4x4 Offroad and it is very slow/sluggish and heading to Dallas, TX tomorrow to get an OTT tune and looking forward to it. Wonder why the factory tune is so sucky and slow, probably something to do with emissions, stupid sh**!
@@ourlifeinwyoming4654 I would agree with MuscleAmerican, I had my 2017 recently OTT tuned and it makes a hugh difference in throttle response and shift points, success as drive your truck
I really wish one of you guys would put the cruise control on and see if it stays in the gear that is a major problem everybody's having is cruise control on the highway keeps changing gears any it bit of a slope
I ask my tuner about this in the video. He says that adaptive cruise control remains pretty much the same because they don’t want to be messing with those specs. Normal cruise control is slightly improved with because of the added power and torque but not 100% fixed. Hope that helps, check out that part of the video where he explains it.
I put the KDMax 9.0 tune on my 2022 about two months ago. I love everything about it especially hitting the etc/sport button only when needed though mostly for hills and off road. The one thing I wasn’t prepared for was the noticeable loss in mpg’s. On a full tank of 87 my gauge reads around 250’ish miles range to the tank and that’s averaging around 13-15 miles per gallon for me and that’s with 33’ tires. I’m thinking I’ll do some research with a few tanks of 91 to compare but I already feel like I’m at the gas pump WAY more than I’d like to be. I’d like to try this time but at 400$ a pop that gets expensive. Has anyone out there gone from the KDMax9.0 to the OTT tune or vice verse and what’s your opinion on which is better?
Stock tune with latest tsb update I have found to be the best. Utilizes all gears in town and on highway it wants to hold 6 just as well as the tunes. When I went back to stock the latest software does not get delete thus giving you smooth gear shifts. Also give the OVtune a try if you like the stock shift logic. It's like OEM plus with greater mpgs. I'll jump tunes around tho depending what I'm doing. Towing, highway city etc
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I used to hear a lot about the CVC tune but not anymore for some reason. My first tune was the OV tune and that didn’t do very much and from what I understand the CVC tune is a slight variation from the OV tune.
@@MuscleAmerican Went from OTT back to KDMax 10.0. I am happier with KDMax. Take @carlosibarra897 up on his offer. I think you'll also make the switch back to KDMax.
Does anyone know if these tunes affect the cycling of port versus direct injection? My concern is that if the tune sprays more fuel, more often via direct injection and does not provide a commensurate increase in the port injection cycle, you might see accumulation of carbon on the valves at 50 or 100,000 miles.
I emailed them, and they responded with a somewhat generic reply of “we adhere to all of Toyota‘s engineering principles “. They didn’t explicitly say if the tuneit did, or did not disrupt the direct/port injection cycling.🤷🏻♂️
@@chriss.6526 thank you. I don't know if I want to do it if it no longer cycles between the two, the way it does stock. Just because most people don't know how the system works and wouldn't think to ask, the tuner should still know about how this affects it.
That’s a good question and I can’t speak for a manual. Reach out to OTT directly and they can answer your question. The link to their site is in the description.
Technically this is TRUE, but OTT was formerly OVT, (orange virus tune) which has been around quite a bit longer than KDMAX. I currently have the KDMAX 9.0 Pro XT, and am getting the new OTT tomorrow. Will report back with my findings
@mg-ke3ji honestly you can feel the torque difference. The coolest thing is the ECT button I'd customizable. So I got the hot-spicy tune. So the normal throttle response was hot snd the ECT- would move me to the quickest throttle response. This was actually too much for me. And I turned it down to mild spicy. I've got a 17 trd sport 4 door 5.5 bed. I don't run any armor and I'm on 33s. During the spring and fall we run a RTT, 2 bikes, and 2 kayaks. This probably adds another 500 (ish pounds) and the ECT button is there if I want it but I certainly don't need it. The guy who tuned me also has kdmax, but he switched to OTT after trying it for a few months. The shifting is faster, and especially on the highway, the torque is there for it to not scream going up hills. This is where I noticed the biggest difference, even the kd tune would downshift and hit 5.5k rpm on big hills. Not with this tune. If you're interested in talking more this is a long post but I can answer any questions you have if you drop me your instagram handle
@mg-ke3ji bottom line is the OTT tune is the best tune I've used. I've referred 2 friends and 2 random locals to it(everyone has a taco here in NWA) and they've had the same results, the overall consensus is its the #1 mod for your truck. And definetly the best bang for your buck.
Just get a manual transmission! You can do the driving, not a computer. It seemed like 90% of what you discussed was about the computer shifting for you.
Yeah a manual would help for sure. There is a OTT for manuals that improves throttle response but mainly it’s for fixing the shift points of the automatic.
I noticed your truck stays in lower gear(3/4)and your riding above 70mphor even higher,I didn’t see it go to 6 gear at all.if that the case after tuned you could burn up your lower gear sooner.I want the tune but after seeing you in lower gear cruising in highway I’ll have to pass for now.
@@MuscleAmerican what do you mean why? You changed the entire power curve. Loading up the revs on a 20 year old engine straining every part. There is a reason they run 150k that's due to the lower power curve which doenst strains the trans and engine... I've tuned so many cars and they all become less reliable. This is a Toyota truck not a Ferrari....
@@ripperx444lmaooo. You think gear hunting don’t fuck the trans up? 😂😂😂. If anything it helps the motor and trans not be fighting the driver and last longer.
@@ripperx444 listen man. If you are too much of a scary cat to tune your truck that’s fine. Let others live life and stop being a Karen. You the kid that snitched on other kids and told the teacher cus they having fun and you didn’t want to brake the rules. 🤣🤣
I’m happy with KD MAX 9.0, other than adaptive cruise. Better than stock, but still shifts more than just driving with pedals Interested in OTT just to compare but I don’t see myself dropping th extra cash just to compare Any tune is better than Toyotas stock tuning
really like the information being given from the tuner. unique other than other videos ive seen regarding the OTT tune, thanks.
Got my 22 Limited OTT tuned today. It’s unreal. Best $400 I ever spent. Can’t wait to drive it again to work tomorrow with a heavy load. If you’re on the fence about a tune, you’re cheating yourself. It’s surreal how good it is. And the optional ECT button mode is insane
Yep totally agree! Towing is going to be a huge change.
Does it void the warranty?
@@Sam-kn2mm technically yeah, but only if you walk into the dealer and announce that you had it tuned. There is no way for the dealer to tell, the ECU reads as stock if they check it. Get serviced at the dealer regularly, not worried at all.
@@stackthatartpaper sweet thank you man
Still love it?
The KDMax 6.0 is two years old. Almost any tune is better at this point.
KDMax came out with the ‘9.0’ and called it the “KDMax 9.0” weeks before OTT made their “9.0.”
That said, both OTT and KDMax are excellent tunes and will make the driver very happy.
I agree and pointed that out in the video that I was not comparing the latest and greatest KDMax tune. And I was happy with the 6.0.
Exactly, this wasn't a fare comparison tbh..🤷
Nice looking truck! 👍👍 I'ma get the OTT tune on my TRD off-road 6-speed manual. Need the driveability. Thanks for the info
2016 Tacoma sport double cab 4WD 6’ bed. KD Max 2.0 couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Fixes stock Toyota crap drivability. Trailer pulling outstanding, even through hills and mountains.
You’re still running the 2.0 tune? You should look into the 10. I hear it’s been improved.
IMO its been perfected
PHENOMENAL INFO THANKS A LOT
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just got re-tuned due to my 5.29s. You should feel the difference with upgraded gearing. Great Video.
Who did the re-gear for you? Nice channel BTW.
@@MuscleAmerican Agility Customs did my re-gear.
Got the OTT on my 2020 OR. No more sluggin. Love how light the truck feels now.
I’ve been running the OTT tune since Dec ‘23. I got the mild/med tune. I’m impressed with the power curve and you can definitely feel in in the 2k-3k rpm range. The only complaint that I have is that I’m still not happy with the shifting. Even when I’m using the pedal, it seems like the truck still downshifts way too much even on the slightest of inclines. Note: I’m only running 265/70R17’s. Also during local (in town) driving and I’m light on the throttle it like to jump back and forth between 5th and 6th gear way too much. The truck seems to drive its best with ECT Power button on.
You may also want to look at a company called D3performance. They specialize in toyota's. All toyota's. They offer a module with 6 preset tunes or you can develop your own custom one. They also offer a 30 day money back return policy.
Interesting, I looked them up and they are only in Texas?
Thanksgiving Point! Love that place.
Gotta get that OTT soon!
Great vid. The KDMAX is on the 10.0 tune. I just did mine on the 10.0 and lost 1 mpg but fixed the trans issues including the radar cruise. Also gained power.
That’s awesome! Glad you’re enjoying it
Hold the button down and adaptive cruise control will turn off
Fantastic! Just got a new 2023 Tacoma 4x4 Offroad and it is very slow/sluggish and heading to Dallas, TX tomorrow to get an OTT tune and looking forward to it. Wonder why the factory tune is so sucky and slow, probably something to do with emissions, stupid sh**!
Your going to love it!
Thanks for this comprehensive review. We'll be getting the OTT August 5th - can't wait!
I think you’re going to love it!
@@MuscleAmerican Thanks!
@@ourlifeinwyoming4654 I would agree with MuscleAmerican, I had my 2017 recently OTT tuned and it makes a hugh difference in throttle response and shift points, success as drive your truck
Do a video with the adaptive cruise control.
I think I did turn it on at some point in the video
I really wish one of you guys would put the cruise control on and see if it stays in the gear that is a major problem everybody's having is cruise control on the highway keeps changing gears any it bit of a slope
I ask my tuner about this in the video. He says that adaptive cruise control remains pretty much the same because they don’t want to be messing with those specs. Normal cruise control is slightly improved with because of the added power and torque but not 100% fixed. Hope that helps, check out that part of the video where he explains it.
I put the KDMax 9.0 tune on my 2022 about two months ago. I love everything about it especially hitting the etc/sport button only when needed though mostly for hills and off road. The one thing I wasn’t prepared for was the noticeable loss in mpg’s. On a full tank of 87 my gauge reads around 250’ish miles range to the tank and that’s averaging around 13-15 miles per gallon for me and that’s with 33’ tires. I’m thinking I’ll do some research with a few tanks of 91 to compare but I already feel like I’m at the gas pump WAY more than I’d like to be. I’d like to try this time but at 400$ a pop that gets expensive. Has anyone out there gone from the KDMax9.0 to the OTT tune or vice verse and what’s your opinion on which is better?
This is my 2 cents. I don’t think you will notice much of a difference to justify the cost.
The 33s and if you had it lifted are what’s doing that is my guess, W/OTT I actually gained a mpg, get 24 on long trips, 20 in the city
@@stackthatartpaperidk I get 18 mpg combined on 35s. Regeared too which really hit mpg. Stock tune
Stock is rock.
Sea level makes a huge difference
Yeah, I definitely lose some HP being in the mountains.
Is the price like that in North Carolina so I can get my done
Each tuner is a little different but typically $300-$400
Stock tune with latest tsb update I have found to be the best. Utilizes all gears in town and on highway it wants to hold 6 just as well as the tunes. When I went back to stock the latest software does not get delete thus giving you smooth gear shifts. Also give the OVtune a try if you like the stock shift logic. It's like OEM plus with greater mpgs. I'll jump tunes around tho depending what I'm doing. Towing, highway city etc
Free at the dealership? Wasn't aware there was an update. Thanks for the info
@@MiraclesFSC my dealer refused to do it. Very disappointed
What does tsb stand for?
@@edgarmadrid2343 Technical Service Bulletin
My Dealship and many others wont do Tune
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Great video can’t wait to wake up my Taco
Thanks! Let me know what you think about it when you get it done.
Is dude going up parleys?
Edit: Lol i guess so
I sure am!
Where can I get it done in central Florida?
@@mijilisti check out the video description. I have a link to look up the tuner closest to you.
Anybody have the medium/spicy tune? Thinking about going down to mild/medium because mine is too jumpy
Just got mild/medium, it’s perfect
The CVC tune would be the one to compare all others with.
I used to hear a lot about the CVC tune but not anymore for some reason. My first tune was the OV tune and that didn’t do very much and from what I understand the CVC tune is a slight variation from the OV tune.
@@MuscleAmerican - I have the CVC tune and there are various tunes for various purposes. I think it's great.
Comparing the very old KDMAX 6.0 tune to the latest OTT tune??? SMH
Do you think the new KDMAX tune is better?
@MuscleAmerican I think you'd be impressed with the 10.0! I'll be in SLC in two weeks if you want to give it a try. Let me know 👍🏻
@@WSTuning yeah I bet it’s great too! I really did enjoy the 6.0 tune.
@@MuscleAmerican Went from OTT back to KDMax 10.0. I am happier with KDMax. Take @carlosibarra897 up on his offer. I think you'll also make the switch back to KDMax.
It’s been a year since you did the OTT tune, any new information? Still happy no issues? I am still debating putting on my 2023 Tacoma.
No issues, wish I would’ve done it sooner
@@MuscleAmerican Thanks
Does anyone know if these tunes affect the cycling of port versus direct injection? My concern is that if the tune sprays more fuel, more often via direct injection and does not provide a commensurate increase in the port injection cycle, you might see accumulation of carbon on the valves at 50 or 100,000 miles.
I’m not sure. I’d reach out to the OTT guys and ask them. A link to their website is in the description.
Thanks, will do. Great vid by the way.
great question! Did you ever find out?
I emailed them, and they responded with a somewhat generic reply of “we adhere to all of Toyota‘s engineering principles “. They didn’t explicitly say if the tuneit did, or did not disrupt the direct/port injection cycling.🤷🏻♂️
@@chriss.6526 thank you. I don't know if I want to do it if it no longer cycles between the two, the way it does stock. Just because most people don't know how the system works and wouldn't think to ask, the tuner should still know about how this affects it.
How is your tune have you had any issues ?
It’s been great! No issues, I highly recommend it.
Does it never go to 5th or 6th gear? Seems like its constantly in 3rd and 4th. Is 2nd gear at 80mph really a good thing?
The display wasn’t always accurate. It’s definitely not in second gear at 80mph.
Should I get a tune or buy something like pedal commander?
The tune will adjust the throttle response, and shift points. All the peddle commander does is adjust the throttle response. The tune is 100x better.
@@MuscleAmerican great thank you so much!
Get the pedal monster, definitely not the pedal commander. Just look up some videos on on those if you go that route.
Have you noticed any difference in mpgs?
Yes, it’s better. I’m getting about 20 vs 18.
Would it fix the rev hang in manual transmission ?
That’s a good question and I can’t speak for a manual. Reach out to OTT directly and they can answer your question. The link to their site is in the description.
@@MuscleAmerican thanks !
I have been running the KDMax for 13k miles, no rev hang, huge improvement over stock tune.
Holy crap man OTT didnt even exist when Kdmax was on 6.0.
Technically this is TRUE, but OTT was formerly OVT, (orange virus tune) which has been around quite a bit longer than KDMAX. I currently have the KDMAX 9.0 Pro XT, and am getting the new OTT tomorrow. Will report back with my findings
Curious as to what your thoughts are on OTT vs KD Max. Thinking about switching@@kylemac6547
@@kylemac6547how was it ?
@mg-ke3ji honestly you can feel the torque difference. The coolest thing is the ECT button I'd customizable. So I got the hot-spicy tune. So the normal throttle response was hot snd the ECT- would move me to the quickest throttle response. This was actually too much for me. And I turned it down to mild spicy. I've got a 17 trd sport 4 door 5.5 bed. I don't run any armor and I'm on 33s. During the spring and fall we run a RTT, 2 bikes, and 2 kayaks. This probably adds another 500 (ish pounds) and the ECT button is there if I want it but I certainly don't need it.
The guy who tuned me also has kdmax, but he switched to OTT after trying it for a few months. The shifting is faster, and especially on the highway, the torque is there for it to not scream going up hills. This is where I noticed the biggest difference, even the kd tune would downshift and hit 5.5k rpm on big hills. Not with this tune. If you're interested in talking more this is a long post but I can answer any questions you have if you drop me your instagram handle
@mg-ke3ji bottom line is the OTT tune is the best tune I've used. I've referred 2 friends and 2 random locals to it(everyone has a taco here in NWA) and they've had the same results, the overall consensus is its the #1 mod for your truck. And definetly the best bang for your buck.
Will a custom tune void the factory warranty ?
In summary yes and no. If they find it yes, will they find it? no. I wouldn’t be worried about it.
What size tires are you running? TIA
265/75/R16
What time do you recommend for a manual,
I believe OTT has a tune for manuals. Check out their website, I have a link in the video description
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Does this apply to the sport 2wd?
Yes you can get a tune for that set up!
Where can I get an OTT tune?
There is a link in the description on where to find a tuner near you.
How much does the tune cost?
It varies but typically $300-$400. Check out the links in the video description to find a tuner near you.
Are these tunes for 87 octane?
Yes you can stay on 87. They, and Toyota don’t recommend going any lower.
Just get a manual transmission! You can do the driving, not a computer. It seemed like 90% of what you discussed was about the computer shifting for you.
Yeah a manual would help for sure. There is a OTT for manuals that improves throttle response but mainly it’s for fixing the shift points of the automatic.
I noticed your truck stays in lower gear(3/4)and your riding above 70mphor even higher,I didn’t see it go to 6 gear at all.if that the case after tuned you could burn up your lower gear sooner.I want the tune but after seeing you in lower gear cruising in highway I’ll have to pass for now.
Yeah the software I used isn’t always accurate for some reason. It’s usually a gear or two higher that what it actually says.
Not a fair comparison kdnax 10.0 is where it's at
Why? Have you had the OTT?
Kdmax 9.0 and OTT are the same!!! VF TUNER
What? VF Tuner is the software used to make the tunes. They are different.
@@MuscleAmerican exactly same from Vf tuner. All the tuner from OTT used to be kdmax tuner. It’s the same different name
Well keeping you at such a high RPM is smoking gun on your loss in MPG. All you are doing is wearing your engine out faster
Will ruin reliability for sure by doing this
Why?
@@MuscleAmerican what do you mean why? You changed the entire power curve. Loading up the revs on a 20 year old engine straining every part. There is a reason they run 150k that's due to the lower power curve which doenst strains the trans and engine...
I've tuned so many cars and they all become less reliable. This is a Toyota truck not a Ferrari....
@@ripperx444lmaooo. You think gear hunting don’t fuck the trans up? 😂😂😂. If anything it helps the motor and trans not be fighting the driver and last longer.
@@AntilleanConfederation clearly not Jack
@@ripperx444 listen man. If you are too much of a scary cat to tune your truck that’s fine. Let others live life and stop being a Karen. You the kid that snitched on other kids and told the teacher cus they having fun and you didn’t want to brake the rules. 🤣🤣
Hah. He said "refineness."
Tuning a six cyl brick is like putting a thing on your 185 lb wife. Nothing will change
You should try it. It’s not going to be a race car by any means but it definitely makes it more enjoyable to drive.
I can 100 percent assure you that it will change.
I need to find someone that does 4.6 V8 swaps
With the ott they offer different level. Are you happy that you went with lite and not any of the other settings?
Yeah I am. Anything more felt like it was really jumpy off the line.
When you tune your Taco does it void the warranty? I know it’s a dumb question
Great question, the tunes are virtually undetectable as I’m told. I’ve never heard anyone have warranty issues after getting one.
Major upgrade for the truck! Well done.
Great video review! Just did the Yotaworks tune on my 2018 ORP 4Runner.. Night and day. Love it.
@@arcimpulse064 awesome! Glad you like it
2020 2.7 - do you have any information on how that adjusts performance?
I’m pretty sure they offer a tune for the 2.7 motor
Have you pulled your trailer with the new tune??
Yeah it makes a big difference
👂???
What?
I’m happy with KD MAX 9.0, other than adaptive cruise. Better than stock, but still shifts more than just driving with pedals
Interested in OTT just to compare but I don’t see myself dropping th extra cash just to compare
Any tune is better than Toyotas stock tuning
Agreed! They both solve a problem and that’s a win in my book.
I'm looking into the OTT tune, but the truck has like 3k on the clock. So I am not sure if I should wait or get it quick
There really isn’t any reason to wait. I wish I would’ve gotten it sooner.