Apple isn't even that overpriced. You can get the iPad Pro for around £600 but looking at them on different sites, they go from £500 and a used one or a 9.7 inch can go from £200. I mean Macs are a bit overpriced. But iPhones are worth it.
kinda ironic, paying 800€ which i did for my ipad pro 10.5" with the pen, is rather reasonable in my mind. the batterylife is better than any mobile phone i have ever used, it keeps up with all the latest games on IOS. heaps of great apps for drawing and other workrelated programs. the camera is rather shit. then we have the latest and greatest iphone, the most expensive one in that line costs like what 1800€? what does it have, a slightly better cpu, crappy battery and a better camera. oh right you can call people with it too.
Have had iPad pro for going on a year now (with the pencil). LOVE it. It is truly a fantastic device for art and feels so natural. No regrets whatsoever with it. Procreate is a phenomenal app that lets you make custom size canvases and a huge amount of layers for your work and then you can easily export as Photoshop files or Procreate. iPad Pro rocks!
Sean Paints me too lol I want a cintiq but that's a dream buy right now. I have the intuos 5 touch medium and love it, but I hope to get the new Wacom this year after summer
One thing most of these VS. videos don't say (I have both a Wacom Cintiq and and iPad Pro + Pencil) is that because of the way the Wacom pen works (induction + Rfid) you can actually hover. This is a huge difference, well, at least to me. You can see exactly where you will draw, before you draw. Even with an old Cintiq with quite a bit of distance between the glass and the pixels, the fact that you can hover means your hand and your eye will coordinate and you will be drawing exactly where you want. The Apple pencil on the other hand has a bit of a flabby tip in my opinion, and I kind of can't get the same result. It's still great though, and the advantages of an iPad to a much bulkier and heavier Wacom tablet (don't have one of these) are lots, but at home I never prefer the iPad to the Cintiq. Well, that's my 2 cents worth of opinion.
I find myself watching all your new videos, even if I'm not that interested in the products you are talking about. I SO appreciate the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your work. Please keep up the excellent work!
It's misleading to include Astropad as it requires an iMac to make that work. Similarly, while it's possible to produce artwork on an iPad, it still requires a desktop machine for post-processing, adjustments and so forth. I agree with the pencil form factor. I've never understood Wacom's preference for a thick stylus.
John Matthias the advantage is you can afford both an iPad an iMac and have change compared to the Wacom. So that is fair. I suppose if you want mobility the iPad is the winner, due to battery life, weight and LTE and battery packs. Bearing in mind the iPad is a new product and Wacom have been doing it for years the iPad is pretty impressive. Easy choice for me the iPad and iMac combined over this Wacom.
andyH_England errrrr... with all due respects, your math looks a bit odd to me. Here in Spain, the IPad Pro alone costs 920€ minimum and the cheapest I5 imacs and macbooks start at 1000€. That's a whopping 1900€ minimum. However, You can find the i5 MobileStudio Pro 13 with 4GB of RAM for 1580€, and the i7 8GB version for 1900€. A quick search in Amazon USA gives me almost identical numbers for every product mentioned, except for the fact that it's dollars versus euros and the euro is a more expensive coin so we Europeans are at a loss, but I digress. So, no offense, but where's that change to spare that you mentioned after going for the more cumbersome Apple custom bundle? Because I don't see any -and in fact, if you go for the i5 MobileStudio, THEN you'll have change to spare afterwards in comparison vs. the apples. Again, no offense, but unbiased facts are unbiased.
At some point, Apple are going to have to put the iPad Pro digitiser tech into their 22 and 27 inch iMac. They don't sell huge numbers but they do for the arts / media industry and it could still be cheaper than buying a Wacom Cintiq 27HD...
it depends on what u need. I always scoffed at the ipad, but i recently got a Pro and the power and versatility of this device, as a video camera, it shoots in 4k. Ive already made an ep's worth of songs off of it...definitely worth it as a creative
The iPad is great for sketching/painting digitally, especially for students and people who create art as a hobby. But the Wacom is a full fledged PC that's great for professionals starting in the business.
I am a "Working Pro" (Photographer) and dumped the Cintique late last year for the Astro/iPad combo and frankly have not looked back, it is a Godsend (with the caveats as referenced in the video). I use the 12.9 for home and 9.7 on the road. Biggest negative is that I still have to drag along my Macbook on out of town assignments. Indeed, I would love to dump my laptop and favour of the iPad one day (especially while on the road) and I believe that day is coming, Apple has intimated as such. It's just a matter of time before these tablets get the muscle to do all that we need to perform the tasks that we want. Frankly I am really hoping that Apple will port the Mac OS over to the tablet line up or that app developers produce native programs like Lightroom or PS for these tablets.
I think the limit is from our self(I mean everyone else), if you just complain about the limit of the tool you use, its mean you are not professional yet. The professional artist can finish the job they get even just the cheapest tool they have. Sorry to say that but after saw bunch of painting that finished on iPP+Pencil, you just looks like make excuse of the limit you have been say. Except if you said that because you have been get pay as haters/trollers, you can ignore my word.
Vall Ey Actually the iPad does limit you with software, yes people have done professional painting/drawing on the iPad pro, but if you compare any of it to professional paintings/ drawings on MSP you would notice that the standard of work done on desktop software is much higher. As someone with an iPad pro I can tell you only a few apps have as many tools as desktop programs. (pro create and medibang come to mind) even if the end product is the same, the extra features on desktop programs allows the work to be far easier and quicker to do.
Thanks so much for the great job you do in ALL your videos. Have been watching you for awhile and thought it was about time I say hello. Thanks again, Arthur
Ipad is amazing, the only thing preventing me from buying it is the lack of professional grade comics illustration app. Id buy it in a heartbeat if it can run Clip Studio Paint. But I guess its not that powerful to be able to run full fledged creative programs, hence, the custom tailored paint apps.
Clip Studio Paint and SAI were actually the reasons why I opted for a Wacom instead of an iPad pro. I went for Wacom Cintiq Pro. The portability and ease of ipad pro sure is nice though.
I love the video Lisa. In general for all TH-cam channels, I still don't understand why people are comparing a very optimised hardware and software package (Apple product) and a device running full blown Windows 10? O course the battery life will be less! The screen real estate point is to do with the casting app. Some of the screen isn't being rendered and (question about the app) is some of the work being done by the mac that PS is running on? And some on the iPad? 50/50%?
I’m thinking on purchasing an iPad Pro to use as sketching, then exporting it as jpeg onto my PC to use with Photoshop and the cheaper Wacom tablets to refine it with the bells and whistles.
I notice you got 'Filebrowser' :) Filebrowser and Notability are my bread and butter on the iPad for work. they work well together. now to find an app that does great web page/article capture for research purposes. using 'Screenshot' but on the look out for better apps.
I don’t think it’s truly too comparable since they run so differently, but I know I love my iPad Pro a lot. I work managing social media and also doing digital art and the iPad is just so useful for my jobs as I definitely need to be snappy on some occasions. I love the portability honestly, I think if you purely want to make digital art, especially in the form of digitalised traditional mediums, rather than pure vector based work it’s wonderful. If you want all the extras that photoshop offers, or also do a lot of animating etc then the Wacom is the easiest choice. It’s all just down to preference and what you want to get out of the device :P
Would be great if you could compare Dell XPS15 9560 and Apple Mac Pro 15 . Performance on Video Adobe Premier Pro on both vs Final Cut and comments on portability, heat, reliability (I heard XPS has question marks) etc. I hope to keep laptop for 5-7 years at this price point. Thanks in advance
I prefer the iPad Pro, price also plays a role as I can resell it faster to anyone vs a Wacom that only digital artists know about. I also prefer a Mac over the PC platform. My major hang up is I'm used to my adobe illustrator n photoshop workflow and also all about the fonts. Fonts are very important but are nonexistent in the iPad pros. Maybe one day these will be worked out by apple or even if Wacom become more realistic with their pricing because their products aren't worth the price they sell for now.
I've used Wacoms professionally since the late 90s and there's been one on my desk every day since then...until I got my iPad Pro. With Astropad (especially the Studio version), running on my Mac and iPad, my wacoms are now consigned to a box. Never thought I'd see the day!
And yes, I forgot to mention, just think on the fact that No Pro Artist in the whole world uses iPad or any other to work and create, the only name you will hear and see - Wacom. And I am pretty sure there are reasons behind it. Think on it.
While I agree that Wacom is the best way to go, there are plenty professionals that use iPad Pro for their work. Denying that only means you have your head up your ass. Wacom is still the industry standard but they won't be in just a few years if Apple keeps improving the way they do. As for playing Overwatch or Skyrim, most people willing to invest in a drawing tablet don't do it to play games. I'm certainly not going to waist my space on that nonsense.
Thanks for the review, I have purchased a Ipad pro 9.7 for starting out in digital art and I must say its perfect. Once I have some more experience in Digital Art I will get a full size Wacom tablet but for now an Ipad pro is perfect for my needs.
I am just waiting for the release of the iPad Pro 2. I think it is going to be worth the wait since the current iPad Pro seems to be a great tablet for art as it is. I can't wait to see what new features the iPad Pro 2 is going to have.
Nice compariison. How large are the drawings you work on here? Or more specific what resolution do you use? 300 dpi or larger? It will affect the lag and the workflow I guess.
in desktop photoshop cc you can set the workspace into something alike the apple software though, so you get more space for your art and still access to tools.
Great review. I'm leaning toward the iPad Pro because of simplicity and don't need another computer at the moment. The iPad also will support the pencil making that even a better deal for the novice.
Great review - as usual! If one wanted the productivity/functionality of such an input device , but only in the form of a lower priced add-on peripheral for an existing computer, what alternative device would best fill that niche?
I found a new respect in your work. You are a workhouse!! Was not aware of the price difference and did not imagine it would be that close. Should Apple buy Astropad and make it part of iOS?
I'm sorry but the price of the Wacom just completely shuts down anyone on a budget. It's price is ridiculous. Procreate is an amazing app, I mainly do tattoo designs and tattoo illustrations and the iPad works great. I have the 12.9 inch with 128gbs of space, I'm actually paying it off 40$ a month. The pencil was 100, and the matte screen protector was 7$.
Kalvin Rosario dude that's crazy logic. u could replace the iPad with a sketch book for that workflow, its way cheaper and the iPad sucks compared to real paper and pencil. Enjoy the crappy screen quality of that mate protector. Sad u have to resort to things like that due to poor engineering by Apple. For only a few hundred more a person can get a i5 mobile studio Pro on credit from Wacom. Or just get an intuos and a cheap laptop, that's still better than the iPad Pro. Procreate is alright , but hardly worth dealing with the Apple hardware.
Dani Joy Umm, with iPad Pro, you will have a lighter bag since you won't need those papers and pencil. Especially when you need to color the painting, which you need a lot of colors in your bags. So I think the iPad pro is a convenient tablet that you can replace paper and pencil.(Sorry for my English and this is just my opinion)
yes but its still not nearly as good as pencil and paper. i have a small sketching kit that is smaller than the ipad pro's. never weighed it but all these things are so small i carry around my ipad pro and all my sketchbooks/ water colors in one small bag. plus there are water color kits that art smaller than a wallet! if im going to carry around a large tablet like the ipad pro, i want to be able to do all my business on it. unfortunatly, i can only do that on windows tablets because of the limited hardware RAM and iOS apps being very basic and limited. ever tried to use the a digital tablet for painting a landscape from life? they are horrible. the ipad gets very hot and you cant see the screen very well. plus the apple pencil feels horrible!
could be argued for photography equipment too. cameras that most pros use, are priced between 2000$-20.000$ while photographers on a budget use either a mobile camera or a cheap 400$ camera. but then yet again. these tablets are for working pros and not for the ones on a low budget ;)
I’m definitely getting the iPad. Cheaper, properly portable, and I’m not going to be doing any photorealistic murals so I really have no need for the bells and whistles of desktop software
Hey Lisa, when will you review the Dell XPS 15" 9560. Also check that, If I get the 4k screen model but keep the screen resolution to 1080p, will I get the same battery life as the 1080p model?
The lag is more like driver issue... or photoshop issue with Wacom's driver... not the capability of Mobile Studio itself... in short, a bug... which is lots of people that use Mobile Studio has complaining about.
Tried Astropad studio yet? Also technically the iPad Pro can be a tablet for windows through Duet Display pro. Not as good as Astropad, but an option for windows!
I want the mobile studio pro because I have used wacom tablets for the past 12years and have been using a cintiq 13hd for about 3years. Plus I use paint tool SAI. I just wish I could afford one
I don't think this is a fair comparison, completely different weight classes lol but interesting nonetheless, the only reason I would choose the Ipad is price, but I would still be wishing for the MobileStudio Pro.
It’s so sad because we are so close to a perfect portable LCD tablet. But Apple stubbornly sticks to its own IOS and omission of vital features like file management, Wacom can’t make computers worth jack, they are always behind in performance, breakdowns and battery life, even though they own the best pen tech, and Microsoft pen tech just can’t match even the Apple Pencil. So we are forced to use a Frankenstein workflow, with Microsoft laptop, with a Wacom tablet, to which we export from an iPad we can use on the go. Which I’m sure lets all these companies get their slice but it keeps that dream all-in-one portable Windows graphics tablet we want forever out of our hands,
i JUST got an ipad, and im still learning how to use it....how can you stream your desktop onto your ipad like that? and can you make the ipad a 2nd monitor?
I'm wondering what resolution maxes out procreate? In photoshop I can work as high as my MacBook can handle, but Astropad wouldn't do the trick for me as I constantly use keyboard shortcuts. So procreate would be my tool on an iPad - but not if it was limited to for instance 2000 pixels or in that ballpark. Then I would rather sketch on my galaxy note and finish on my cintiq/mac-setup:p
If you need a dedicated MAC to run professional programs on your ipad, then the ipad is not "pro" its just a touch/pen display. The wacom is an all inclusive professional computer. Wacom wins again, PC wins again. MAC = WAC
The iPad is almost there. Let's hope with this years refresh and software updates we get better file management and more feature we need from Mac OS. The Hardware & Pencil are so well thought out, Apple just been taking to long for software features I'm praying this year, I love the Pencil.
MobileTechReview agreed they Apple needs to suck it up and just make an iMac Studio of some sort, I saw patents they have like the Microsoft Studio but they don't seem headed down that path with touch screens
I never thought I would consider buying an apple product, based on price...
*Cries in Wacom*
Apple isn't even that overpriced. You can get the iPad Pro for around £600 but looking at them on different sites, they go from £500 and a used one or a 9.7 inch can go from £200. I mean Macs are a bit overpriced. But iPhones are worth it.
That Wacom even outshines Apples price policy. Nice move Wacom.
yeah but only iPad any other product is in my opinion overpriced, but Apple Pen feels so bad compared to Wacom/XP-Pen/Huion Pen.
kinda ironic, paying 800€ which i did for my ipad pro 10.5" with the pen, is rather reasonable in my mind.
the batterylife is better than any mobile phone i have ever used, it keeps up with all the latest games on IOS.
heaps of great apps for drawing and other workrelated programs.
the camera is rather shit.
then we have the latest and greatest iphone, the most expensive one in that line costs like what 1800€? what does it have, a slightly better cpu, crappy battery and a better camera. oh right you can call people with it too.
Have had iPad pro for going on a year now (with the pencil). LOVE it. It is truly a fantastic device for art and feels so natural. No regrets whatsoever with it. Procreate is a phenomenal app that lets you make custom size canvases and a huge amount of layers for your work and then you can easily export as Photoshop files or Procreate. iPad Pro rocks!
I'm watching this as if I could afford to buy either.... 😭
IKR
Sean Paints me too lol I want a cintiq but that's a dream buy right now. I have the intuos 5 touch medium and love it, but I hope to get the new Wacom this year after summer
#relatable
I feel you 😂😂😭
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One thing most of these VS. videos don't say (I have both a Wacom Cintiq and and iPad Pro + Pencil) is that because of the way the Wacom pen works (induction + Rfid) you can actually hover. This is a huge difference, well, at least to me. You can see exactly where you will draw, before you draw. Even with an old Cintiq with quite a bit of distance between the glass and the pixels, the fact that you can hover means your hand and your eye will coordinate and you will be drawing exactly where you want. The Apple pencil on the other hand has a bit of a flabby tip in my opinion, and I kind of can't get the same result. It's still great though, and the advantages of an iPad to a much bulkier and heavier Wacom tablet (don't have one of these) are lots, but at home I never prefer the iPad to the Cintiq. Well, that's my 2 cents worth of opinion.
I find myself watching all your new videos, even if I'm not that interested in the products you are talking about. I SO appreciate the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your work. Please keep up the excellent work!
I completely agree
At 9:28 mobile studio pro lagged because you used a very complex brush. On sketchbook there arent so complex brushes, so it doesn't lag
it's a $2600 device, I don't care what brush I'm using lag is unacceptable.
It's misleading to include Astropad as it requires an iMac to make that work. Similarly, while it's possible to produce artwork on an iPad, it still requires a desktop machine for post-processing, adjustments and so forth. I agree with the pencil form factor. I've never understood Wacom's preference for a thick stylus.
John Matthias the advantage is you can afford both an iPad an iMac and have change compared to the Wacom. So that is fair. I suppose if you want mobility the iPad is the winner, due to battery life, weight and LTE and battery packs. Bearing in mind the iPad is a new product and Wacom have been doing it for years the iPad is pretty impressive. Easy choice for me the iPad and iMac combined over this Wacom.
She mentioned a 2015 Macbook Pro. It was around $2300 new. Add that to the price and NO, you don't have change. You are spending a LOT more.
Crescent Beach yeah but the iMac 🖥 is around 1700$ starting so. 3000$ for something so low quality is insane.
andyH_England errrrr... with all due respects, your math looks a bit odd to me. Here in Spain, the IPad Pro alone costs 920€ minimum and the cheapest I5 imacs and macbooks start at 1000€. That's a whopping 1900€ minimum. However, You can find the i5 MobileStudio Pro 13 with 4GB of RAM for 1580€, and the i7 8GB version for 1900€. A quick search in Amazon USA gives me almost identical numbers for every product mentioned, except for the fact that it's dollars versus euros and the euro is a more expensive coin so we Europeans are at a loss, but I digress.
So, no offense, but where's that change to spare that you mentioned after going for the more cumbersome Apple custom bundle? Because I don't see any -and in fact, if you go for the i5 MobileStudio, THEN you'll have change to spare afterwards in comparison vs. the apples. Again, no offense, but unbiased facts are unbiased.
I have a pen, I have an Apple...
Chris Devine NNNNNO! LET IT STAY IN 2016!
Chris Devine ahhh apple pen
Chris Devine yes
But Apple call it pencil, not a pen...
But do you have anything to load it with?
At some point, Apple are going to have to put the iPad Pro digitiser tech into their 22 and 27 inch iMac. They don't sell huge numbers but they do for the arts / media industry and it could still be cheaper than buying a Wacom Cintiq 27HD...
U can use iPad as digital table in windows with duet display, it also have pen pressure.
I'd love the iPad if they either a) made it like the surface pro 4 and had it run full MacOS, or b) if they had any sort of PRO apps.
you mean like sketchbook pro, procreate, art rage, photoshop, affinity photo?
Monkey I’d prefer B. IOS is a light OS, and is sleek. It helps performance, but can still use Pro apps
it depends on what u need. I always scoffed at the ipad, but i recently got a Pro and the power and versatility of this device, as a video camera, it shoots in 4k. Ive already made an ep's worth of songs off of it...definitely worth it as a creative
PROcreate.
The iPad is great for sketching/painting digitally, especially for students and people who create art as a hobby. But the Wacom is a full fledged PC that's great for professionals starting in the business.
Bee Cee I agree, but there definitely is a limit to what the iPad can do for most professional artists
I am a "Working Pro" (Photographer) and dumped the Cintique late last year for the Astro/iPad combo and frankly have not looked back, it is a Godsend (with the caveats as referenced in the video). I use the 12.9 for home and 9.7 on the road. Biggest negative is that I still have to drag along my Macbook on out of town assignments. Indeed, I would love to dump my laptop and favour of the iPad one day (especially while on the road) and I believe that day is coming, Apple has intimated as such. It's just a matter of time before these tablets get the muscle to do all that we need to perform the tasks that we want. Frankly I am really hoping that Apple will port the Mac OS over to the tablet line up or that app developers produce native programs like Lightroom or PS for these tablets.
iPads are also computers in a wired way
I think the limit is from our self(I mean everyone else), if you just complain about the limit of the tool you use, its mean you are not professional yet. The professional artist can finish the job they get even just the cheapest tool they have. Sorry to say that but after saw bunch of painting that finished on iPP+Pencil, you just looks like make excuse of the limit you have been say.
Except if you said that because you have been get pay as haters/trollers, you can ignore my word.
Vall Ey Actually the iPad does limit you with software, yes people have done professional painting/drawing on the iPad pro, but if you compare any of it to professional paintings/ drawings on MSP you would notice that the standard of work done on desktop software is much higher. As someone with an iPad pro I can tell you only a few apps have as many tools as desktop programs. (pro create and medibang come to mind) even if the end product is the same, the extra features on desktop programs allows the work to be far easier and quicker to do.
Thanks so much for the great job you do in ALL your videos. Have been watching you for awhile and thought it was about time I say hello. Thanks again, Arthur
Why don't you switch your view to full screen mode in Photoshop, if you want more screen real estate to draw on?
Ipad is amazing, the only thing preventing me from buying it is the lack of professional grade comics illustration app. Id buy it in a heartbeat if it can run Clip Studio Paint. But I guess its not that powerful to be able to run full fledged creative programs, hence, the custom tailored paint apps.
Clip Studio Paint and SAI were actually the reasons why I opted for a Wacom instead of an iPad pro. I went for Wacom Cintiq Pro. The portability and ease of ipad pro sure is nice though.
They have it now. Subscription model though...
Try duet display too. Not as colour accurate, but overall feels more like a genuine experience. Lower latency etc.
Wait we can run Photoshop on ipad pro ?
I love the video Lisa. In general for all TH-cam channels, I still don't understand why people are comparing a very optimised hardware and software package (Apple product) and a device running full blown Windows 10? O course the battery life will be less! The screen real estate point is to do with the casting app. Some of the screen isn't being rendered and (question about the app) is some of the work being done by the mac that PS is running on? And some on the iPad? 50/50%?
I’m thinking on purchasing an iPad Pro to use as sketching, then exporting it as jpeg onto my PC to use with Photoshop and the cheaper Wacom tablets to refine it with the bells and whistles.
I notice you got 'Filebrowser'
:)
Filebrowser and Notability are my bread and butter on the iPad for work.
they work well together.
now to find an app that does great web page/article capture for research purposes.
using 'Screenshot' but on the look out for better apps.
I don’t think it’s truly too comparable since they run so differently, but I know I love my iPad Pro a lot. I work managing social media and also doing digital art and the iPad is just so useful for my jobs as I definitely need to be snappy on some occasions. I love the portability honestly, I think if you purely want to make digital art, especially in the form of digitalised traditional mediums, rather than pure vector based work it’s wonderful. If you want all the extras that photoshop offers, or also do a lot of animating etc then the Wacom is the easiest choice. It’s all just down to preference and what you want to get out of the device :P
Exactly!
Best comparison video I've seen between the two devices. Thank you.
Would be great if you could compare Dell XPS15 9560 and Apple Mac Pro 15 . Performance on Video Adobe Premier Pro on both vs Final Cut and comments on portability, heat, reliability (I heard XPS has question marks) etc. I hope to keep laptop for 5-7 years at this price point. Thanks in advance
The problems on Apple will be completely solved if adobe photoshop cc, illustrator, etc actually available on app store..
Now You can use Astropad :) of course not for mobile sketching at local Cafe....
I prefer the iPad Pro, price also plays a role as I can resell it faster to anyone vs a Wacom that only digital artists know about. I also prefer a Mac over the PC platform. My major hang up is I'm used to my adobe illustrator n photoshop workflow and also all about the fonts. Fonts are very important but are nonexistent in the iPad pros. Maybe one day these will be worked out by apple or even if Wacom become more realistic with their pricing because their products aren't worth the price they sell for now.
I've used Wacoms professionally since the late 90s and there's been one on my desk every day since then...until I got my iPad Pro. With Astropad (especially the Studio version), running on my Mac and iPad, my wacoms are now consigned to a box. Never thought I'd see the day!
you ditched a cintiq for a tiny little ipad pro? thats crazy!
I think they must be talking about something like a Wacom Intuos rather than a Cintiq.
KuttyJoe ah that makes sense. thats more of an upgrade.
And here I thought someone was happy about replacing a cintiq. Good lord.
You make mobile tech reviews fun. I love your sunflowers too! Thanks, Lisa.
And yes, I forgot to mention, just think on the fact that No Pro Artist in the whole world uses iPad or any other to work and create, the only name you will hear and see - Wacom. And I am pretty sure there are reasons behind it. Think on it.
While I agree that Wacom is the best way to go, there are plenty professionals that use iPad Pro for their work. Denying that only means you have your head up your ass. Wacom is still the industry standard but they won't be in just a few years if Apple keeps improving the way they do. As for playing Overwatch or Skyrim, most people willing to invest in a drawing tablet don't do it to play games. I'm certainly not going to waist my space on that nonsense.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH... I'll go to ipad pro...
You always have awesome comparison reviews, thank you very much!
Thanks for the review, I have purchased a Ipad pro 9.7 for starting out in digital art and I must say its perfect. Once I have some more experience in Digital Art I will get a full size Wacom tablet but for now an Ipad pro is perfect for my needs.
Thanks for your informative comparison, I always look forward for your review video.
Does iOS 11 with its file manager change the outcome much?
Also, you can always bluetooth the keyboard directly to the mac!
I do art as a hobby and I’m gonna get a mobile studio pro but that’s only cause I think when I’m older I’ll do art as my job
Great video. I appreciate the honestly and thoroughness. This has definitely helped me come to a final decision.
Lisa, I love the drawing of the cat! Your videos are great!
You can use key command setups if you use astropad studio as opposed to standard👍🏽
As a tool for digital painting Pencil is better (despite need for charging), for everything else it's Wacom, no contest here.
i have to add that astropad is available in a astropad studio version which supports, keyboards, faster wifi, and much more pro features
Jo M and it's still not good enough for my workflow.......
Dani Joy have you tried it? You can still use duet display if you want also.
I am just waiting for the release of the iPad Pro 2. I think it is going to be worth the wait since the current iPad Pro seems to be a great tablet for art as it is. I can't wait to see what new features the iPad Pro 2 is going to have.
Nice compariison. How large are the drawings you work on here? Or more specific what resolution do you use? 300 dpi or larger? It will affect the lag and the workflow I guess.
in desktop photoshop cc you can set the workspace into something alike the apple software though, so you get more space for your art and still access to tools.
Can you please review Lenovo X1 Carbon 2017 vs Lenovo X1 Yoga 2017 as smackdown....thank you.
Always interesting to get your perspective.:) thanks for the vid. Nice artwork btw.
I need to run zbrush and substance painter for work, im a 3d artist. pretty sure wacom is one of the few devices that can do it atm.
Nice Art Lisa! Great Reviews!
Great review. I'm leaning toward the iPad Pro because of simplicity and don't need another computer at the moment. The iPad also will support the pencil making that even a better deal for the novice.
that was a little lag? nah honey that was A LOT OF LAG. almost a full second for it to catch up....
That was because "smoothing" was checked on!
Wacom is for is for pros and ipad pro is for everyone
thank you so much for your time, it was really helpful to me
Great paintings by the way Lisa!
Levono Yoga Thinkpad 14 vs ipad pro or Wacom MobileStudio?
Can that weird looking one be used as a normal tablet/computer?
Weird looking one?
Great review - as usual!
If one wanted the productivity/functionality of such an input device , but only in the form of a lower priced add-on peripheral for an existing computer, what alternative device would best fill that niche?
Wow, you're a really good artist.
I found a new respect in your work. You are a workhouse!! Was not aware of the price difference and did not imagine it would be that close. Should Apple buy Astropad and make it part of iOS?
I see you are left handed but still keep the buttons to the left, would it not be better to set it up with the buttons to the right?
I'm sorry but the price of the Wacom just completely shuts down anyone on a budget. It's price is ridiculous. Procreate is an amazing app, I mainly do tattoo designs and tattoo illustrations and the iPad works great. I have the 12.9 inch with 128gbs of space, I'm actually paying it off 40$ a month. The pencil was 100, and the matte screen protector was 7$.
Kalvin Rosario dude that's crazy logic. u could replace the iPad with a sketch book for that workflow, its way cheaper and the iPad sucks compared to real paper and pencil. Enjoy the crappy screen quality of that mate protector. Sad u have to resort to things like that due to poor engineering by Apple. For only a few hundred more a person can get a i5 mobile studio Pro on credit from Wacom. Or just get an intuos and a cheap laptop, that's still better than the iPad Pro. Procreate is alright , but hardly worth dealing with the Apple hardware.
Dani Joy Umm, with iPad Pro, you will have a lighter bag since you won't need those papers and pencil. Especially when you need to color the painting, which you need a lot of colors in your bags. So I think the iPad pro is a convenient tablet that you can replace paper and pencil.(Sorry for my English and this is just my opinion)
yes but its still not nearly as good as pencil and paper. i have a small sketching kit that is smaller than the ipad pro's. never weighed it but all these things are so small i carry around my ipad pro and all my sketchbooks/ water colors in one small bag. plus there are water color kits that art smaller than a wallet! if im going to carry around a large tablet like the ipad pro, i want to be able to do all my business on it. unfortunatly, i can only do that on windows tablets because of the limited hardware RAM and iOS apps being very basic and limited. ever tried to use the a digital tablet for painting a landscape from life? they are horrible. the ipad gets very hot and you cant see the screen very well. plus the apple pencil feels horrible!
could be argued for photography equipment too.
cameras that most pros use, are priced between 2000$-20.000$ while photographers on a budget use either a mobile camera or a cheap 400$ camera.
but then yet again. these tablets are for working pros and not for the ones on a low budget ;)
Love the video Lisa. do you know an app that would be good for someone who wants to learn to draw? (iOS). Thanks from the UK!
I’m definitely getting the iPad. Cheaper, properly portable, and I’m not going to be doing any photorealistic murals so I really have no need for the bells and whistles of desktop software
This helped me a lot. Thank you!
Hey Lisa, when will you review the Dell XPS 15" 9560. Also check that, If I get the 4k screen model but keep the screen resolution to 1080p, will I get the same battery life as the 1080p model?
I wish the iPad Pro was better for vector art and 3D modeling.
Is there an updated review on this? I wish to know what updates there are between the 2 products.
Lisa you should review the Asus Transformer 3 pro!
The lag is more like driver issue... or photoshop issue with Wacom's driver... not the capability of Mobile Studio itself... in short, a bug... which is lots of people that use Mobile Studio has complaining about.
im still undecided between a standard laptop or the wacom mobil studio
Tried Astropad studio yet? Also technically the iPad Pro can be a tablet for windows through Duet Display pro. Not as good as Astropad, but an option for windows!
I want the mobile studio pro because I have used wacom tablets for the past 12years and have been using a cintiq 13hd for about 3years. Plus I use paint tool SAI. I just wish I could afford one
Do an iPad Pro/Cintiq Pro comparison, please...
what's the point of you have to hook it to your Mac to use Photoshop
I don't think this is a fair comparison, completely different weight classes lol but interesting nonetheless, the only reason I would choose the Ipad is price, but I would still be wishing for the MobileStudio Pro.
the worst thing about msp is the price. it's ridiculous. you can have an mbp and an ipad for that price tag.
Hey can you tell me between the MSI GTX1070 and Asus rog strix GTX 1070 which is better capacity, smoother ,more efficient
Lisa, will there be a review on Razer blade pro 2016?
You are a REALLY REALLY REALLY REAAAALLLYYYY good artist 😍😍 LOVE IT 💕
iPad needs a workable 3D app, that you could at lease rough out a design to import into zbrush, maya or max. This would be awesome.
Gerry Taylor try forger its basic but for a base mesh it might be good..
It’s so sad because we are so close to a perfect portable LCD tablet. But Apple stubbornly sticks to its own IOS and omission of vital features like file management, Wacom can’t make computers worth jack, they are always behind in performance, breakdowns and battery life, even though they own the best pen tech, and Microsoft pen tech just can’t match even the Apple Pencil. So we are forced to use a Frankenstein workflow, with Microsoft laptop, with a Wacom tablet, to which we export from an iPad we can use on the go. Which I’m sure lets all these companies get their slice but it keeps that dream all-in-one portable Windows graphics tablet we want forever out of our hands,
i JUST got an ipad, and im still learning how to use it....how can you stream your desktop onto your ipad like that? and can you make the ipad a 2nd monitor?
Are going to compare 12.9 iPad 2nd gen with Wocam pad?
Thank you.
I love the iPad but for vector work it’s really limited. Astropad is kind of useless without keyboard shortcuts recognition.
Awesome work!!!!
I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT ASTRO TOUCH. Dang it, i should have gone with the ipad pro instead of the wacom companion one ( i have a high end desktop AAAA)
Thanks!!!
Thank you for the lovely comparison. I've been torn for months, but thanks to you, I'm decided.
I'm wondering what resolution maxes out procreate? In photoshop I can work as high as my MacBook can handle, but Astropad wouldn't do the trick for me as I constantly use keyboard shortcuts. So procreate would be my tool on an iPad - but not if it was limited to for instance 2000 pixels or in that ballpark. Then I would rather sketch on my galaxy note and finish on my cintiq/mac-setup:p
Cathrine Helle skmething like 16000x9000 pixel is the maximum on ipad pro
Check affinity for ipad pro.
If you need a dedicated MAC to run professional programs on your ipad, then the ipad is not "pro" its just a touch/pen display. The wacom is an all inclusive professional computer. Wacom wins again, PC wins again. MAC = WAC
I have a mac and mangastudio / clip studio on it. I'm guessing I should go with an iPad? Never consider getting on until now I guess
Yeah...but the wacom is DOUBLE the price so....
I have clip studio/manga studio. Which is better for me?
Lisa pls review New Razer Blade Stealth Kaby Lake.
if one wants a tool for digital comic strip creation, is ipad pro best choice?
I am a professional, I have tried both, iPad pro and pencil blows any wacom out of the water.
The iPad works with PC if you use Duet rather than astropad
seriously screw Adobe though.
:) I'm using Affinity Photo/Designer. Love that software. Less features than the adobe counterparts but incredible for the price.
To AFFINITY and beyond ;)
Probably referring to their decision to move to a subscription base rather than just selling the programs.
Have you tried Affinity Designer for vectors?
The iPad is almost there. Let's hope with this years refresh and software updates we get better file management and more feature we need from Mac OS. The Hardware & Pencil are so well thought out, Apple just been taking to long for software features I'm praying this year, I love the Pencil.
I think Hades will freeze over before Apple gives users direct access to the file system. Sigh.
MobileTechReview agreed they Apple needs to suck it up and just make an iMac Studio of some sort, I saw patents they have like the Microsoft Studio but they don't seem headed down that path with touch screens
Yup. Theyre afraid you might do something actually productive with it.
You got it in iOS 11 (sort of)
Can you run autoCAD on the surface pro 4 or any of these other tablets?
is the wacom adobe creative cloud only?
If you only draw, ipad is good. If you need 3d like ZBrush, ipad doesnt have any 3d sw. PS is huge, different story.