This is amazing stuff, with what you've made here, you've not even scratched the surface of what is possible if it was considered to make a remake, or shoot new footage and implement as you have here to improve the rest of the movie. Epic stuff. :) I can even imagine if George Lucas saw it, he'd be like, OMG now I have to remake all of them in light of this.
@@davidmarsden192 Thats sick man, I wish I was there. Unfortunately I was raised on the prequels lol. Still good. Can't imagine the wow factor for this movie. It was definitely ahead of its time and this truly broke the ice for sci fi movies.
@@davidmarsden192 Yes me too... was 10 years old and my first movie in the local theatre. These guys brought tears of joy to my eyes seeing a remake of such a classic fight. Can't stop watching other people react to it too :)
Now that’s how Vader should of acted, you can see and feel the rage and emotion from him. Obiwan is both a reminder of who he was and was destined to be, and also of what he had lost. His wife, potential child, and the possibility to reforge the galaxy to his own Empire, where he believed he could bring peace, and prosperity. This is the man that put him in this excruciating suit and took away his true powers potential 20 years prior.
What we see as amateur to independent CGI and special effects (as seen here) would be considered BEYOND LEGENDARY and hard for the audience to fathom! People would faint out of shock (at least I would)! Star Wars would become bigger faster! lol
I just love how it incorporates the information about Vader and Obi-Wan that was added over the years. Vader was highly skilled in Form 5 (focused on offense and countering), tainted by his Dark Side anger. Obi-Wan was a master of Form 4, one of the best defensive forms, only hampered by his advancing age. This fight really shows that. Despite the brutality of Vader's attacks, he couldn't land a solid hit during the whole fight. Obi-Wan suffered some minor injuries due to unexpected unarmed and Force attacks, but he always recovered before Vader could capitalize.
Obi -wan was "the Master" of form 3 "soresu " which gave him that impenetrable defense and he used form 4 "ataru" as a supplement for offense. Obi -wan abandoned form 4 after watching Qui-gonn get defeated by Darth Maul, to focus more on defense.
I'm curious to know what Hayden Christensen, Ewan McGregor, Dave Prowse and George Lucas think about this. I also wonder what Alec Guinness would think about this. :-)
Judging by what he thought afterwards, Alec Guinness would probably still be annoyed that he was pretty much only remembered for Obi Wan Kenobi up to this day. From what he wrote about Star Wars, he thought that the concept was a bit fanciful and didn't really like that the only people that asked for his autograph from then on was because of his role as Kenobi.
Well Hayden quit acting and bought a ranch, and has to tell the 'fans' how much he loves them all at the Disney events even though they were pretty unkind to him at the time, even Natalie didn't emerge unscathed and remember Ahmed Best? He's more than done his time with a choreographer and seems to have turned a new page in his life and moved on. Jake Lloyd had it worse, after serving 10 months in jail, he ended up in a mental facility, then his sister died; poor kid time has not been kind to him. Dave would have enjoyed acting this fight himself back in the day but apparently kept breaking the props so ended up being sidelined in many of the action scenes.
The original is supposed to mimic Japanese style fights but it doesn't make sense to the story though. Obi-Wan was one of the greatest Jedi Masters to ever live, and was said to be an absolute master of the form he used. Also in Rebels he ends the fight against Maul with 3 moves. He was way more skilled than what the OT shows, and this reimagining goes after a more canon approach. Heck we even see with Rogue One (which leads right into New Hope) that Vader was still an absolute beast, and this reimagining just adds to that.
@@rikacomedyletsplays2581 what is "OT"? If you mean the "Original Trilogy" I would say that Episode s 1-6 are ALL part of the Original Saga. Everything else is complete shit, The cartoon Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance. The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, Rouge One, Solo. ALL of that crap SUCKS. Disney has taken away from George Lucas Vision. They have undone what George has Done
Looking back on this 42 year-old sequence, remade anew as it was, I just had the somber realization that, of the 9 people who played named characters, those still alive are now in the minority: Obi-Wan's actor--dead for quite a while. (Of course, he was already old in 1977, so no surprise there.) Vader's physical actor--dead sometime before Phantom Menace. R2-D2's actor--dead prior to Rogue One. Leia's actress--dead shortly before Episode 8 filming wrapped up. Chewbacca's actor--dead less than a week before this TH-cam video was uploaded. Only Luke's, Han's, and C-3PO's actors, along with Vader's voice actor, are still alive--and, despite clearly looking old now, Mark Hamill is the _youngest_ of those four.
@@snoweirhawk2442 Yes, Billy Dee Williams is alive--but Lando wasn't part of Episode 4, so he doesn't count. I was referring to people who appeared in _this scene._
@@kostadim7892 Alec Guiness was pretty old by the time they started making the Star Wars movies, and I don't even know if he'd be able to pull off playing a master swordsman when he was in his prime. The stunt man in the Darth Vader suit might have been young enough to do a more physical lightsaber duel, but he was practically blind inside that helmet. Between the dark lenses over his eyes and the lack of peripheral vision we were lucky that the lightsaber battles between Vader and Luke were as action packed as they were (likely due in a large part to Mark Hamil being younger, more athletic and mobile at the time).
Darth Vader was a death machine, the OT was the only place where he looked slow and weak, even in the comics he's portrayed as an unstoppable juggernaut, an army of one. he was also more or less the same age in the OT as mace windu was in the clone wars, and mace was no slouch. Vader was arguably the greatest (or at least one of the greatest) lightsaber duelist of his age. this is the perfect portrayal of Vader, and it's consistent with the comics and later movies, it's absolutely grand.
Even if he was old, when you fight correctly and not based on spin-moving and jumping everywhere, you can still continue correctly in your 80s, especially if you add space magic and weightless weapons.
Wowwwwww...was Vader throwing "force punches???" Also, it looked like Obi-Wan used the force to hold Vader in place after he "force pushed" him back, to allow himself time to get up off the floor. Incredible!!!
Just saw this myself. This feels right. Obviously very fan film still, but Vader is finally....FINALLY getting his revenge...his life has been waiting for this moment...the energy and hatred that fuels him...this is his moment, so it makes sooo much more sense for this to have taken place, not a quiet gentlemen like duel (though when I was a kid I thought that fight meant that Vader as much as he hates his old master, respected him and maybe was a little afraid of him, though he still felt confident that he always had the upper hand and could end it at any time, so was toying with him in a way, but turned out he was the one getting toyed with). But this really has a lot of emotion that feels very in line with these two people meeting again after all these years, and the Jedi Hunt. Very powerful. But can you imagine what would have been had this been how it was shown to people in '77? The audience would have needed counselling with how badly their minds would have been blown by this movie. People were already loosing there minds over it as it was. Darth Vader and Obi-Wan would have been legends upon legends and this last duel between the final members of the old ways would have cemented how powerful Jedi were back in their hey day. Love this fan remake.
But despite Vader's anger and rage and cutting Obi-Wan down, he actually lost the fight. Obi-Wan's sacrifice led to the Empire's defeat :). I love how Obi-Wan, through all the hardship he's gone through, always kept his head in the game.
little correction, the real reason because they couldnt film a fast paced fight was because the sabers back then, in order to get that glow, they used glass instead of the CG metal that is edited over
The reason the original fight was so slow wasn't because they were old, it was because the props being used for the lightsabers were too fragile to go any faster
i remember in 1977 when SW came out, my dad took me to see it for my 13th birthday. When Obi-Wan met his fate, Mark Hamill was not the only one in the theater to yell out, "NO!" LOL
Love watching this video with you! I admit, I cried watching it the first 10 times, and Its nice to see things like this with fans who get invested in what they like. The makers of this are obvious fans like us, and did this with total respect to the material and the characters. Made me feel 12 again watching a New Hope for the first time at a drive in.
This was the very first movie I ever saw in the theater at 3 yo, on a 70mm screen. The old school IMAX. First shot of Vader in the beginning scared me so bad I ran out to the lobby(mind you the shot of his helmet was 30 feet across). My dad caught me and yelled at me cause we waited in line for 4 hrs to see it in the summer sun in Phoenix, and I better get my ass back inside. Lol. After that I was in awe of all of it. Still am in awe every time I see it. This makes it even more epic...........
I know many in the younger generation like to call us ‘boomers’ in a demeaning way, which is fine with me, but being in a theater watching this as a 10 year was utterly unbelievable. The quantum step forward from what had been done prior to this movie is hard to put into perspective. I hope today’s generation get to experience something so far and beyond like A New Hope was back when it came out.
I think it captured the fury and terror of fighting Vader better than the original because I definitely would be terrified fighting against him like that. The original was not really a complicated sword fight between the actors.
Showing two very skilled, very powerful Jedi's going at it without all the dumb flippy, jumpy bs. It had power, heart, grit. These guys just made jj, Rian and Disney look ridiculous, pathetic and clueless.
Seen several reactions to this fan edit now, and you're one of the lucky few who exclaimed; "Holy Moley" afterwards or during the reactions. Well done man. And ..... (Shazam!)
Star Wars was the 2nd movie I ever saw in a Theatre. (after Pete's Dragon) I too was 6-7 years old. And can probably tell 80-90% of the modifications they made from the original. (and even pick up on some subtle flaws here & there) And I guess I am a bit of an 'original trilogy purist'. But that said . . . . . this small group of talented fans did a GREAT job! (better than Disney/Lucasfilm) Loved the clip, liked the video.
Actually it was because Vaders greatest lose was to Obi-Wan and he had already adapted his style to protect his most vulnerable point (his chest piece), he wasn't going to make the same mistake of underestimating Obi-Wan again. From Obi-Wans view he knew he couldn't win the duel this time and just needed to use his mastery of his defensive form to give Luke, Han, Chewie and Leia to escape. He took Maul out with a single move on Tatooine...so not much to do with age. Also saying Vader was older and slower than in a New Hope makes no sense, he would of been roughly the same age as Mace Windu in his prime also look at the power on Darth Tyrannus and sidious in their advanced age. Simple reason was the Glass lightsabers used bk in the 70's couldn't be swung or even touch each other as they would shatter. When I watch this Saga with any newbie I show them this reimagined edit just like I'll show them the Darth maul fan film and The vader fan films...and no I don't coun't any of the disney live movies as actual STAR WARS!
It also doesn't that the prequels show Dooku going toe to toe against Obi and Anakin in THEIR Prime or even when he holds his own against Yoda. So i wish THIS fight were to be inserted into a remastered EpIV
Actually the reasoning behind why those two were so slow paced was because vader was cautious and actually obi wan is more powerful than when he was younger he may be old but he is no push over, vader knew that any mistake would be his last so he wanted to be precise but obi wan sacrificed himself so the others could leave but without seeing the body vader was terrified because now obi wan had made good on his promise of becoming stronger than he could imagine since obi wan became a force ghodt
Dude, in a way I'm glad that they were limited by the budget and technology of their time, because if THIS had been the very first lightsaber duel ever to grace a screen... let's just say that at some point it would have gotten damn near impossible to satisfy the expectations, man!
There is one gap in the screenshot - when the door are getting closed (sry for grammar) Vader's lightsaber is activated on the old footage, but, when the look is at Vader's room from inside of it and door are getting closed, his lightsaber is excluded, althought there was no sound of turn it off and it wasn't showed at all. Ive found it after watching this about 50 times in another ppl reactions :D
This might not be true but I heard like in the futures when they will make in the fight scene back in the 70s the lightsabers were actually like glass made so when they were fighting they weren't really touching like you know saver to saver. Hard to explain
"The true addition, that was shown in theaters, might exist in a vault somewhere..." I actually have the unaltered original film on DVD if you ever want a copy of it and you already own a version for legal reasons, just let me know and I'd be happy to send you one... Also, if you've never seen it look for a fan edit of the film done by a guy called Adywan ( his version is called Star Wars Revisited)... I guarantee you will never watch another version of the film again, including the original theatrical cut very pretty. It's absolutely amazing
That was a revelation! I first saw Star Wars when it was originally released back in 1977. I would have been nine years old. This is Star Wars done right. Fixitinpost? Consider me a subscriber.🙂👍
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the reason the og fight was slow is because they blades of sabre shattered like glass so they couldnt even make contact with the blades if not it would of been more like when luke fights vader and not so robotic and slow it was due to technology thats all in the og fight the blades never make contact but the glow of their sabre was used too hide that fact
Looked great 👍 adds but keeps to the original my questions are with out researching it is who is the TH-cam channel that’s the only thing they have on it ??? Looks very well done if Obi is so weak he’s doing well against Darth he didn’t loose He sacrificed his life for the others
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i think they moved that slow in the original because of the lightsabers being fragile and it would be really hard for editors to draw in the lights that come from the saber during a fight
Alec didn't like Star Wars at all. It's popularity overshadowed some of his great performances over the years. Still, he took his role (like all of his roles) seriously. He wanted the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader to be more energetic and entertaining to audiences. However, the technology of the practical effects wouldn't really allow it. The original version of the film actually showed the reflective dust on the saber prop blades falling off like smoke when Alec and David got too aggressive with the saber clashes. The practical effects team would have to remind them to be careful. Thankfully the technology for the practical effects needed for the lightsabers was improved in the later films. This allowed for more engaging duels in Episodes 5 and especially 6. I'd like to think that Alec would have enjoyed this reimagined iconic duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader.
I dont think being old is the reason behind the original fight scene i guess its the technology, you cant see properly in vaders helmet and the actor for kenobi is old...but not being old as Obi Wan Kenobi...because samurai masters are still good or better when they age (experience in the battle)
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is in his 40s in 'A New Hope'. Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi is in his 50s in 'A New Hope'. Obi-Wan is old but not too old and Anakin is still in a age that could fight like that so to say that "they are too old" is BS. Anakin could still fight awesomely in the Vader robot costume not just in retcons but in 'The Empire Strikes Back' & 'Return of the Jedi'. Vader is a Sith not a Jedi. Plural of Jedi is Jedi not Jedis. This re-imagining makes more sense than the actual scene in 'A New Hope'.
Not trying to be a bitch, but the reason they weren't able to make the lightsaber battles flasshy was because of the lightsaber probs they used and also the time period and they were also going with a more samurai sword fight. I mean if they would of lets say made episode one first and that was made in 99 like it was i think the whole series would be way different. I think we would have darth Jar Jar and when we got to ep 4 the fight would of be so amazing.
*Could this more intense duel have been done in 1977 (even if we omitted the CGI + effects-heavy stunts and had the real actors working with stunt doubles) with the tech. & budget back then?* *1) The original lightsabers were far too fragile-* They'd have immediately broken with such powerful contact. Lucas & company struggled to make the ones they had work just for what we got. According to behind-the-scenes discussions, they were frequently a pain to work with, as was the rotoscoping process. The technology was still new and took considerable experimentation. *2) The script-* As DeanBarry pointed out (though most fans know by now), this particular duel was designed to homage traditional Japanese sword-fighting between two older, slower samurai. Obviously, this is NOT to say that the Kendo style itself can't be fast. Plenty of at least semi-realistic onscreen samurai duels, while similarly brief & methodical, manage to reach a lightning-fast pace. On paper, even with older actors, this is possible with the right execution. Nonetheless, that wasn't the point of THIS fight and any change to the pace or speed would've conflicted with that vision. *3) Limited production time-* Let's say Lucas & company had written the duel to be faster and had the resources + choreographers to work in younger stunt doubles with Alec Guinness' footage. Stunts, wire-work, re-shoots & editing alone would've taken much more time/effort (weeks at minimum) to make this complex sequence seamless enough to immerse viewers in the illusion. On top of that, you'd then have to move on to finish everything else. *Star Wars'* production was already under pressure at the time, and extending the duel to this degree would've added too much work. *Verdict: No, this duel couldn't have been done in 1977 even with necessary tech. + resources.* *Sources:* th-cam.com/video/GFMyMxMYDNk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/RIefj6dOhnM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/FSuDjjlIPak/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3-ux9jn1tRU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for taking the time to share!
Thank you for making such an amazing piece of film. Blowing EVERYONES mind with this one. Well done.
Please keep making new things! we are already wanting more!
This is amazing stuff, with what you've made here, you've not even scratched the surface of what is possible if it was considered to make a remake, or shoot new footage and implement as you have here to improve the rest of the movie. Epic stuff. :) I can even imagine if George Lucas saw it, he'd be like, OMG now I have to remake all of them in light of this.
Good Job
amazing work
This short film proves fans are better at Star Wars than Disney!
How
Lux_Schultzy they stay true to star wars
how? the original scene wasnt made by disney. This has nothing to do with disney
Noob CanadianTrader hes talking about how this is better than Disney lightsaber fights
Cool to see a reaction from somebody who was actually there on release of the first movie. Awesome
Vaas I was about to comment this haha
LOL --- I was a 10 year old, sitting in the theater when I first saw this too! I was shocked back then (in '77) - I'm BLOWN AWAY now!!!
@@davidmarsden192 Thats sick man, I wish I was there. Unfortunately I was raised on the prequels lol. Still good. Can't imagine the wow factor for this movie. It was definitely ahead of its time and this truly broke the ice for sci fi movies.
@@1stPersonStateConsciousness Yeah, born in 88. I grew up watching the prequels in the theatre. I have seen the OT around that era as well.
@@davidmarsden192 Yes me too... was 10 years old and my first movie in the local theatre. These guys brought tears of joy to my eyes seeing a remake of such a classic fight. Can't stop watching other people react to it too :)
Now that’s how Vader should of acted, you can see and feel the rage and emotion from him.
Obiwan is both a reminder of who he was and was destined to be, and also of what he had lost. His wife, potential child, and the possibility to reforge the galaxy to his own Empire, where he believed he could bring peace, and prosperity. This is the man that put him in this excruciating suit and took away his true powers potential 20 years prior.
imagine the reactions in 1977
They would have had to pull the movie for causing too many heart attacks.
Film would've crossed a 1.5 billion dollars back then instead i reckon (smiles)
What we see as amateur to independent CGI and special effects (as seen here) would be considered BEYOND LEGENDARY and hard for the audience to fathom! People would faint out of shock (at least I would)! Star Wars would become bigger faster! lol
We might have totally avoided the Iraq war.
The effect of excellence would have brought world peace right after the '76 gasoline shortages.
If only.
EPIC
I just love how it incorporates the information about Vader and Obi-Wan that was added over the years. Vader was highly skilled in Form 5 (focused on offense and countering), tainted by his Dark Side anger. Obi-Wan was a master of Form 4, one of the best defensive forms, only hampered by his advancing age. This fight really shows that. Despite the brutality of Vader's attacks, he couldn't land a solid hit during the whole fight. Obi-Wan suffered some minor injuries due to unexpected unarmed and Force attacks, but he always recovered before Vader could capitalize.
Kenneth Peterson thanks! I'm glad you shared.
Obi -wan was "the Master" of form 3 "soresu " which gave him that impenetrable defense and he used form 4 "ataru" as a supplement for offense. Obi -wan abandoned form 4 after watching Qui-gonn get defeated by Darth Maul, to focus more on defense.
@@KEVINE81382 ahh got the forms mixed up I guess. /Shrug
Dude, I got chills when vader turned on his lightsaber!
I'm curious to know what Hayden Christensen, Ewan McGregor, Dave Prowse and George Lucas think about this. I also wonder what Alec Guinness would think about this. :-)
Judging by what he thought afterwards, Alec Guinness would probably still be annoyed that he was pretty much only remembered for Obi Wan Kenobi up to this day. From what he wrote about Star Wars, he thought that the concept was a bit fanciful and didn't really like that the only people that asked for his autograph from then on was because of his role as Kenobi.
Who really cares? Disney is cool with the billions they've made. This video does 0 harm
@@nathanheminger6393 I do. If you don't, that's your prerogative. But I'm curious to know.
@@nathanheminger6393 tell that to Solo's box office. Good luck for the upcoming movies.
Well Hayden quit acting and bought a ranch, and has to tell the 'fans' how much he loves them all at the Disney events even though they were pretty unkind to him at the time, even Natalie didn't emerge unscathed and remember Ahmed Best? He's more than done his time with a choreographer and seems to have turned a new page in his life and moved on. Jake Lloyd had it worse, after serving 10 months in jail, he ended up in a mental facility, then his sister died; poor kid time has not been kind to him. Dave would have enjoyed acting this fight himself back in the day but apparently kept breaking the props so ended up being sidelined in many of the action scenes.
The original is supposed to mimic Japanese style fights but it doesn't make sense to the story though. Obi-Wan was one of the greatest Jedi Masters to ever live, and was said to be an absolute master of the form he used.
Also in Rebels he ends the fight against Maul with 3 moves. He was way more skilled than what the OT shows, and this reimagining goes after a more canon approach.
Heck we even see with Rogue One (which leads right into New Hope) that Vader was still an absolute beast, and this reimagining just adds to that.
Vader was considered the Jason voorhees of star wars, rogue one made it clear what type of fighter he was in OT
Obi wan killed Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace.
I don't give a damn what Disney says
@@rikacomedyletsplays2581 what is "OT"?
If you mean the "Original Trilogy"
I would say that Episode s 1-6 are ALL part of the Original Saga.
Everything else is complete shit, The cartoon Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance.
The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi,
Rouge One, Solo.
ALL of that crap SUCKS.
Disney has taken away from George Lucas Vision.
They have undone what George has Done
@@BlackAdder1970 George was the one that brought Maul back, not Disney. 🤦
@@BlackAdder1970 Idiot, Maul came back in the Clone Wars tv series, which was made before Disney bought the rights. So shut the fuck up!
I replayed that spin move many times in a row - that was a great idea.
Reminds me of the spin move Mace tried when fighting Darth Sidius
Yep. Spinning. A neat trick, as Anakin himself once said.
You spin right round baby right round like a record baby
Looking back on this 42 year-old sequence, remade anew as it was, I just had the somber realization that, of the 9 people who played named characters, those still alive are now in the minority:
Obi-Wan's actor--dead for quite a while. (Of course, he was already old in 1977, so no surprise there.)
Vader's physical actor--dead sometime before Phantom Menace.
R2-D2's actor--dead prior to Rogue One.
Leia's actress--dead shortly before Episode 8 filming wrapped up.
Chewbacca's actor--dead less than a week before this TH-cam video was uploaded.
Only Luke's, Han's, and C-3PO's actors, along with Vader's voice actor, are still alive--and, despite clearly looking old now, Mark Hamill is the _youngest_ of those four.
It’s a really sad realization.
Don't make me cry man. It's five a.m. here.
Lando is still alive
@@snoweirhawk2442 Yes, Billy Dee Williams is alive--but Lando wasn't part of Episode 4, so he doesn't count. I was referring to people who appeared in _this scene._
Isn't David Prowse still alive?
Not only that, it was supposed to mimic Kendo. A Japanese martial art pertaining to using a Katana.
Intending to be "realistic ".
Yeah - that's the reason. Nothing to do with them being too old.
Star Wars Fever yeah totally not the fact the lightsabers were far too delicate to be used for combat like this....
@@kostadim7892 and that the actors themselves weren't physically up to the task to do an actual fight.
LewdJamik well if they trained properly they would probably be able to do a semi-alright job
@@kostadim7892 Alec Guiness was pretty old by the time they started making the Star Wars movies, and I don't even know if he'd be able to pull off playing a master swordsman when he was in his prime.
The stunt man in the Darth Vader suit might have been young enough to do a more physical lightsaber duel, but he was practically blind inside that helmet. Between the dark lenses over his eyes and the lack of peripheral vision we were lucky that the lightsaber battles between Vader and Luke were as action packed as they were (likely due in a large part to Mark Hamil being younger, more athletic and mobile at the time).
Darth Vader was a death machine, the OT was the only place where he looked slow and weak, even in the comics he's portrayed as an unstoppable juggernaut, an army of one. he was also more or less the same age in the OT as mace windu was in the clone wars, and mace was no slouch. Vader was arguably the greatest (or at least one of the greatest) lightsaber duelist of his age. this is the perfect portrayal of Vader, and it's consistent with the comics and later movies, it's absolutely grand.
Even if he was old, when you fight correctly and not based on spin-moving and jumping everywhere, you can still continue correctly in your 80s, especially if you add space magic and weightless weapons.
You can feel the rage in this fight
Ever since the Great Purge of the Jedi, Vader has been almost constantly hunting Jedi up to the events of A New Hope
This new scene is better than the last 2 episodes.
Wowwwwww...was Vader throwing "force punches???" Also, it looked like Obi-Wan used the force to hold Vader in place after he "force pushed" him back, to allow himself time to get up off the floor. Incredible!!!
It makes perfect sense this re-imagined battle, it would be ferocious like this. Anakin would be driven by revenge, and anger.
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Conrad Lecroy I believe he was making a joke.
Maintenance must have had a fun time fixing that damage.
N0MoreZER0S Never got the chance. The whole thing got blown to smitherines not hours after this.
Just saw this myself. This feels right. Obviously very fan film still, but Vader is finally....FINALLY getting his revenge...his life has been waiting for this moment...the energy and hatred that fuels him...this is his moment, so it makes sooo much more sense for this to have taken place, not a quiet gentlemen like duel (though when I was a kid I thought that fight meant that Vader as much as he hates his old master, respected him and maybe was a little afraid of him, though he still felt confident that he always had the upper hand and could end it at any time, so was toying with him in a way, but turned out he was the one getting toyed with). But this really has a lot of emotion that feels very in line with these two people meeting again after all these years, and the Jedi Hunt. Very powerful. But can you imagine what would have been had this been how it was shown to people in '77? The audience would have needed counselling with how badly their minds would have been blown by this movie. People were already loosing there minds over it as it was. Darth Vader and Obi-Wan would have been legends upon legends and this last duel between the final members of the old ways would have cemented how powerful Jedi were back in their hey day. Love this fan remake.
But despite Vader's anger and rage and cutting Obi-Wan down, he actually lost the fight. Obi-Wan's sacrifice led to the Empire's defeat :). I love how Obi-Wan, through all the hardship he's gone through, always kept his head in the game.
This is Vader on STEROIDS!!!!!!
Vader is a BEAST!
Kudos on being the only person besides me to react to Obi Wan's spin before his epic"you can't win"line
little correction, the real reason because they couldnt film a fast paced fight was because the sabers back then, in order to get that glow, they used glass instead of the CG metal that is edited over
It was fiberglass (because regular glass would shatter more easily)
Imagine how much more people would have lost their minds if something like this was in the original back in the day...
The reason the original fight was so slow wasn't because they were old, it was because the props being used for the lightsabers were too fragile to go any faster
the prequel music its just so awesome
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i remember in 1977 when SW came out, my dad took me to see it for my 13th birthday. When Obi-Wan met his fate, Mark Hamill was not the only one in the theater to yell out, "NO!" LOL
good points about realism and samurai lore.
Is it just me or this guy looks like Obi wan ...!!!
Biggest compliment ever.
Love watching this video with you! I admit, I cried watching it the first 10 times, and Its nice to see things like this with fans who get invested in what they like.
The makers of this are obvious fans like us, and did this with total respect to the material and the characters.
Made me feel 12 again watching a New Hope for the first time at a drive in.
Star Wars was genius at work. Only another masterful genius can take movie perfection and make it shine even brighter. Great Work! Capitol!
When he stood up and the music started that truely gave me chills
I really like the corridor when Vader says "There is no escape" as the walls turn red.
This was the very first movie I ever saw in the theater at 3 yo, on a 70mm screen. The old school IMAX. First shot of Vader in the beginning scared me so bad I ran out to the lobby(mind you the shot of his helmet was 30 feet across). My dad caught me and yelled at me cause we waited in line for 4 hrs to see it in the summer sun in Phoenix, and I better get my ass back inside. Lol. After that I was in awe of all of it. Still am in awe every time I see it. This makes it even more epic...........
the best star wars scene of the last more than 30 years
Even better than the episode iii mustafar duel?
The editing is so awesome, I love it.
I thought you were George Lucas in the thumbnail XD
I know many in the younger generation like to call us ‘boomers’ in a demeaning way, which is fine with me, but being in a theater watching this as a 10 year was utterly unbelievable. The quantum step forward from what had been done prior to this movie is hard to put into perspective. I hope today’s generation get to experience something so far and beyond like A New Hope was back when it came out.
I think it captured the fury and terror of fighting Vader better than the original because I definitely would be terrified fighting against him like that. The original was not really a complicated sword fight between the actors.
Showing two very skilled, very powerful Jedi's going at it without all the dumb flippy, jumpy bs. It had power, heart, grit. These guys just made jj, Rian and Disney look ridiculous, pathetic and clueless.
TheGrumoy Diabetic disney didn’t make the original scene you idiot
@@kostadim7892 He never said they did you moron
Seen several reactions to this fan edit now, and you're one of the lucky few who exclaimed; "Holy Moley" afterwards or during the reactions. Well done man. And ..... (Shazam!)
Imagin if this was in the original, people in the theatre would be going crazy lol
Lightsaber spin Vader does is exactly the way Anakin used to fight..really cool to see
Star Wars was the 2nd movie I ever saw in a Theatre. (after Pete's Dragon) I too was 6-7 years old. And can probably tell 80-90% of the modifications they made from the original. (and even pick up on some subtle flaws here & there)
And I guess I am a bit of an 'original trilogy purist'. But that said . . . . .
this small group of talented fans did a GREAT job! (better than Disney/Lucasfilm)
Loved the clip, liked the video.
Imagine what ppl like this can do with a Disney budget
As i heard "A fan made a new cut" i was like *BOI i can't wait to see your face!* xD
"Haven't even done my hair yet"
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Really intense to watch and this is what that duel should have been mate like. Amazing!!
that was incredible ! geez!!!!!
Actually it was because Vaders greatest lose was to Obi-Wan and he had already adapted his style to protect his most vulnerable point (his chest piece), he wasn't going to make the same mistake of underestimating Obi-Wan again. From Obi-Wans view he knew he couldn't win the duel this time and just needed to use his mastery of his defensive form to give Luke, Han, Chewie and Leia to escape. He took Maul out with a single move on Tatooine...so not much to do with age. Also saying Vader was older and slower than in a New Hope makes no sense, he would of been roughly the same age as Mace Windu in his prime also look at the power on Darth Tyrannus and sidious in their advanced age. Simple reason was the Glass lightsabers used bk in the 70's couldn't be swung or even touch each other as they would shatter. When I watch this Saga with any newbie I show them this reimagined edit just like I'll show them the Darth maul fan film and The vader fan films...and no I don't coun't any of the disney live movies as actual STAR WARS!
I swear, that "You where the chosen one!" At the end gives me chills every time.
“Darth Vader who was old as well” He was like 40.
the sound just prior to obi demise reminded me of lord of the rings Sean beans death seen, excellent. properly well done.
Great reaction!! I felt the same way!
I love Anakin but Darth Vader takes it to another level. Vader is a badass.
When Disney drops the ball, fans have to take over.
It was better then the last jedi lol
Much better
Disney will just never get it.
"This is amazing !"
You said it all...
It also doesn't that the prequels show Dooku going toe to toe against Obi and Anakin in THEIR Prime or even when he holds his own against Yoda. So i wish THIS fight were to be inserted into a remastered EpIV
Actually the reasoning behind why those two were so slow paced was because vader was cautious and actually obi wan is more powerful than when he was younger he may be old but he is no push over, vader knew that any mistake would be his last so he wanted to be precise but obi wan sacrificed himself so the others could leave but without seeing the body vader was terrified because now obi wan had made good on his promise of becoming stronger than he could imagine since obi wan became a force ghodt
Dude, in a way I'm glad that they were limited by the budget and technology of their time, because if THIS had been the very first lightsaber duel ever to grace a screen... let's just say that at some point it would have gotten damn near impossible to satisfy the expectations, man!
Great reaction 👍👍
Cheers!
Wait a minute here(01:53), was that a figure of Weiss Schnee that I just saw there?
There is one gap in the screenshot - when the door are getting closed (sry for grammar) Vader's lightsaber is activated on the old footage, but, when the look is at Vader's room from inside of it and door are getting closed, his lightsaber is excluded, althought there was no sound of turn it off and it wasn't showed at all. Ive found it after watching this about 50 times in another ppl reactions :D
1:54 WEISS SCHNEE!!!
This was not a re-edit. It was a tour-de-force rebuild with all the bells and whistles turned up to level 11!
This might not be true but I heard like in the futures when they will make in the fight scene back in the 70s the lightsabers were actually like glass made so when they were fighting they weren't really touching like you know saver to saver. Hard to explain
"The true addition, that was shown in theaters, might exist in a vault somewhere..."
I actually have the unaltered original film on DVD if you ever want a copy of it and you already own a version for legal reasons, just let me know and I'd be happy to send you one... Also, if you've never seen it look for a fan edit of the film done by a guy called Adywan ( his version is called Star Wars Revisited)...
I guarantee you will never watch another version of the film again, including the original theatrical cut very pretty. It's absolutely amazing
I HAD THAT FIGHT SCENE DREAMED UP IN MY HEAD 20 YEARS AGO..!
SHAME I NEVER GOT TO LEARN C G I
That was a revelation! I first saw Star Wars when it was originally released back in 1977. I would have been nine years old. This is Star Wars done right. Fixitinpost? Consider me a subscriber.🙂👍
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the reason the og fight was slow is because they blades of sabre shattered like glass so they couldnt even make contact with the blades if not it would of been more like when luke fights vader and not so robotic and slow it was due to technology thats all in the og fight the blades never make contact but the glow of their sabre was used too hide that fact
I know right?!!!
The episode 3 in the background at the end with that music killed me :(
"I hate you!!!"...."You were my brother Anikin, I loved you". That part was so intensely powerful, it made me feel...emotions.
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Very agressive fight
I thought Obi-Wan was reviewing the scene himself at 6:03
Digging the longer hair lol
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I likededed it. Now when I watch it. I edited this scene before continuing with the movie
Looked great 👍 adds but keeps to the original my questions are with out researching it is who is the TH-cam channel that’s the only thing they have on it ???
Looks very well done if Obi is so weak he’s doing well against Darth he didn’t loose
He sacrificed his life for the others
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i think they moved that slow in the original because of the lightsabers being fragile and it would be really hard for editors to draw in the lights that come from the saber during a fight
Need to see the chosen one by HFP
Did he just pull out a Weiss figurine?
Alec didn't like Star Wars at all. It's popularity overshadowed some of his great performances over the years. Still, he took his role (like all of his roles) seriously. He wanted the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader to be more energetic and entertaining to audiences. However, the technology of the practical effects wouldn't really allow it. The original version of the film actually showed the reflective dust on the saber prop blades falling off like smoke when Alec and David got too aggressive with the saber clashes. The practical effects team would have to remind them to be careful. Thankfully the technology for the practical effects needed for the lightsabers was improved in the later films. This allowed for more engaging duels in Episodes 5 and especially 6. I'd like to think that Alec would have enjoyed this reimagined iconic duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader.
I dont think being old is the reason behind the original fight scene i guess its the technology, you cant see properly in vaders helmet and the actor for kenobi is old...but not being old as Obi Wan Kenobi...because samurai masters are still good or better when they age (experience in the battle)
It's because the prop lightsabers would break if put under too much stress back then. Newer movies fixed this problem.
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Darth Vader wasn’t that old ... went he die he was 42 years old
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is in his 40s in 'A New Hope'.
Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi is in his 50s in 'A New Hope'.
Obi-Wan is old but not too old and Anakin is still in a age that could fight like that so to say that "they are too old" is BS.
Anakin could still fight awesomely in the Vader robot costume not just in retcons but in 'The Empire Strikes Back' & 'Return of the Jedi'.
Vader is a Sith not a Jedi.
Plural of Jedi is Jedi not Jedis.
This re-imagining makes more sense than the actual scene in 'A New Hope'.
what fighting style was obi wan using in this fight seems like he used a more aggressive form
Emerald City Gaming he used a mixture of form 4 and 3
They more powerful in this one they should have had this on new hope
They couldn't have made this back then.
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Not trying to be a bitch, but the reason they weren't able to make the lightsaber battles flasshy was because of the lightsaber probs they used and also the time period and they were also going with a more samurai sword fight. I mean if they would of lets say made episode one first and that was made in 99 like it was i think the whole series would be way different. I think we would have darth Jar Jar and when we got to ep 4 the fight would of be so amazing.
*Could this more intense duel have been done in 1977 (even if we omitted the CGI + effects-heavy stunts and had the real actors working with stunt doubles) with the tech. & budget back then?*
*1) The original lightsabers were far too fragile-* They'd have immediately broken with such powerful contact. Lucas & company struggled to make the ones they had work just for what we got.
According to behind-the-scenes discussions, they were frequently a pain to work with, as was the rotoscoping process. The technology was still new and took considerable experimentation.
*2) The script-* As DeanBarry pointed out (though most fans know by now), this particular duel was designed to homage traditional Japanese sword-fighting between two older, slower samurai.
Obviously, this is NOT to say that the Kendo style itself can't be fast. Plenty of at least semi-realistic onscreen samurai duels, while similarly brief & methodical, manage to reach a lightning-fast pace.
On paper, even with older actors, this is possible with the right execution. Nonetheless, that wasn't the point of THIS fight and any change to the pace or speed would've conflicted with that vision.
*3) Limited production time-* Let's say Lucas & company had written the duel to be faster and had the resources + choreographers to work in younger stunt doubles with Alec Guinness' footage.
Stunts, wire-work, re-shoots & editing alone would've taken much more time/effort (weeks at minimum) to make this complex sequence seamless enough to immerse viewers in the illusion.
On top of that, you'd then have to move on to finish everything else. *Star Wars'* production was already under pressure at the time, and extending the duel to this degree would've added too much work.
*Verdict: No, this duel couldn't have been done in 1977 even with necessary tech. + resources.*
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Darth Vader was only 45 when he died he wasn't that old he only looked older because of dark side degradation
same here I was 10 in 77 @_@
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