Round 9,ref saved fury, big time. The longest 8 count in history, i think it was something like 19 seconds, then the bell. Thats 79 seconds to recover, plus whatever few seconds he managed to piddle away at the start of round 10. He did show great fighting heart to stay competitive for the last 3 rounds, don't think anyone can question that, but he clearly lost. He needs two things to beat usyk, better fitness than he's ever had, i don't think that's achievable, and go with much more of those upper cuts to the body. They were really hurting usyk, but he used them sparingly. Forget the showboating and flicking, non scoring jabs, go to the body. Can't see it happen though, usyk learns from every fight, not invincible, and not elusive either, but his fitness and ringcraft should see him through.
This is about the 30th time I've had to mention it online since this bout: There as no 'Standing 8-Count'. in fact, I also say this phrase before remembering that THERE ARE NO STANDING *8 COUNTS anymore. He didn't get a 'standing-8'. He was knocked down. Whenever a fighter is only being held up by the ropes it's a 'knockdown'. He got the Referee's 10 count. This is something FOR the Referee. It is NOT a 'mini-game' or a 'speed game' and it does NOT go by a chronological timer but is FOR THE REFEREE's convenience so that the Referee can have sufficient time to assess. In this particular incident the referee did not yell out the words "nine" and 'Ten" and I'm not even sure there is any actual rule that a referee even has to sound out the actual count verbally. How DID the referee help Tyson? That was just about the FASTEST ever interjection and knockdown call I've ever seen and go and compare that to Panicky Pete Referee in Dubois vs AJ to see how AJ had to REALLLLY be hung on ropes getting two solid blows before Pete finally called it a knockdown. BTW the Referee's 10 count (not timer, not 10 seconds) isn't usually considered the entire time including cleaning off the gloves, bringing them back to the center and then the exact moment the Referee does the 'continue' hand gesture. It's 10-count to assess. There was no Standing-8 and there is no such thing anymore. I understand, I find myself calling something a 'Standing 8' because I'm old and grew up with it. 'Standing 8' was removed from most all the boxing orgs (that I know of?) for about 20 years now I think.
I've watched the first fight at least 15 times I love it. Usyk won that fight easy 7-5 maybe 8-4. Your bangon Usyk had to work very hard , he worked and pushed Fury most of the fight. I loved it when Usyk got Fury in a head lock and showed him off to the crowd round 9. As you say , Fury is not as fit , I think it's possible Usyk comes in around 230. Usyk is gonna knock Fury out this time , if the ref is straight , aswell as the WBC judge. Catman 17 win . Thanks for the breakdown , I enjoyed it 👍💥🥊
I just checked Fury's Boxrec. He was 15.75 lbs lighter for Usyk than for Ngannou. Considering the size of the man, and the fact that he did look overweight against Francis, losing 15.75 lbs over the course of 7 months, which included 2 full training camps, under the supervision of a nutritionist and a S&C coach, is not going to affect his punch resistance. Will coming in heavier for the rematch help him? That depends what his game plan is going to be. If he's true to his word and boxes exactly the same as he did in the first fight, then being heavier won't benefit him and is more likely to be a handicap. It will slow his movement and could affect his stamina negatively. If he intends to be more aggressive and try to bully Usyk, then it might help him do that.
Well he can compete, even with Usyk. To a point. His size can be an advantage but if he doesn't stop Usyk early he may gas. And this is heavyweight boxing so any outcome is possible.
Great vid as per us Mr Stunner! 🫡 Just as a sidenote, the Inoue fight is on Christmas Eve, not Boxing Day! I'd hate for you to get caught out & not see the great man live in action 👊🏾🥊
It's probably almost impossible for FURY to beat USYK on point's. I'd say he has to get the knockout. AJ couldn't do it twice & dubois couldn't stop USYK either. Can FURY do it???? I hope so🏴🥊🥊
I felt no need to see a rematch as I had it a pretty obvious Usyk win. It's not just that Usyk wins 8 of the rounds and add another point for a knockdown but that the 'story' of the entire fight is Usyk deciding, Usyk carrying out the win on Usyks clock. This includes Usyk (as he often does) letting Fury exhaust himself for the 3 rounds and then Usyk culiminating it all in a winning run to the end. Something to consider: the '10 point MUST system' was originally made to replace a '3-point' concept where many complained there would be no way to score more for (example) a fighter absolutely acing a round by a huge margin vs scoring a very very close round. The dumbest thing is that judges just simply made it a '3 point' system. That said, IF there was ever a legit round to score '10-7 it was Usyks 9th. That wasn't (example) Zhang and Parker are in a relatively even round but Zhang knocks him back in a kind of flash 'weight-driven' knockdown BUT Parker is up and at him. That was Usyk banging him pillar-to-post over and over and yes it could well have been stopped. Had a judge scored that 10-7 I don't think anyone would have complained.
I'm absolutely not a Fury fan because of his behavior outside the ring and I don't think he can master Usyk due to a co-ordination and skills gap. He can hurt Usyk though and i have put $$ on Fury just in case he catches Usyk and stops him - the wager is to assuage my hurt butt if he does win 😂 Btw, would love to see a video of great British HW - perhaps starting with the much beloved Our 'Enry ?
It's crazy how Usyk has a better resume than Fury and AJ. Kind of embarrassing for them. Hes beaten AJ, Fury, and Dubois... all arguabley in their prime years.. and handled them with ease.
Tyson will be fit for the rematch this is not the Ardis fight that Tyson, I’ve faced a lot harder Tyson will come in on top form and Tyson can be dangerous when he is in that Frame of mind for me Tyson knockout? Usyk can’t take body shots Tyson will be all over usyk best man wins 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I dont put much stock in what the numbers of his weight were and are Im more concerned with how ACCLIMATISED he is at WHATEVER weight he is at. He looked very new at that weight back in may. It looked like a fat camp. His body looked soft and soggy. Just didnt look right. Totally agree with GMAN when he made that observation. I was thinking the same thing myself Even when fury was talking in interviews. His SKIN hanging off his face. All loose and saggy Im glad he is coming in at a COMFORTABLE weight this time. He needs to be comfy and he needs to get Usyks respect within the first minute or 2 In MY opinion. He needs to give Usyk something to be concerned about. Because last time . He had NOTHING to be concerned with until round 4
It’s been another fat loss camp for fury, very bad idea ballooning up again, can’t perform in the gym when you’re having a fat loss camp. I disagree that coming in heavier is a good thing, I agreed with Shane mcguigans assesment that his feet will be too slow and he will be even easier to hit, it may help his punch resistance but I still think it’s a negative. I think Usyk stops him late if fury is 270+. I saw Fury at Joshua Dubois and he looked about 300 pounds
Flabs can win n Usyk can win..so much talk about Flab's condition ..his legs,his punch resistance yada yada yada..thrs a 3rd factor here..the trilogy.the 3rd match will be mega money..boxing has a history of corruption..i mean the first fight in no way was a split decision..also anybody else n the ref woulda stopped the fight in the 9th so no consistency there..n quite Frankly as much as i think Turki has reinvigorated boxing..i dont trust him..i def don't trust Frank n Flabs n we live in a smoke n mirrors world.unless it's undeniably one sided ..usyk will need a KO..a Flabs loss diminishes a potential AJ fight ..so for the money men a Flabs victory is undoubtedly more desirable.who knows how this will end..i guess its wait n watch
Did nobody notice how when parteidetried to grab him later on usyk just used his arm and applied aa throw away wrestle technique and flicked him off to the ropes like a potato sack
Tyson will be fit for the rematch this is not the Ardis fight that Tyson, I’ve faced a lot harder Tyson will come in on top form and Tyson can be dangerous when he is in that Frame of mind for me Tyson knockout? Usyk can’t take body shots Tyson will be all over usyk best man wins 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Round 9,ref saved fury, big time. The longest 8 count in history, i think it was something like 19 seconds, then the bell. Thats 79 seconds to recover, plus whatever few seconds he managed to piddle away at the start of round 10. He did show great fighting heart to stay competitive for the last 3 rounds, don't think anyone can question that, but he clearly lost. He needs two things to beat usyk, better fitness than he's ever had, i don't think that's achievable, and go with much more of those upper cuts to the body. They were really hurting usyk, but he used them sparingly. Forget the showboating and flicking, non scoring jabs, go to the body. Can't see it happen though, usyk learns from every fight, not invincible, and not elusive either, but his fitness and ringcraft should see him through.
This is about the 30th time I've had to mention it online since this bout:
There as no 'Standing 8-Count'. in fact, I also say this phrase before remembering that THERE ARE NO STANDING *8 COUNTS anymore.
He didn't get a 'standing-8'. He was knocked down. Whenever a fighter is only being held up by the ropes it's a 'knockdown'. He got the Referee's 10 count.
This is something FOR the Referee. It is NOT a 'mini-game' or a 'speed game' and it does NOT go by a chronological timer but is FOR THE REFEREE's convenience so that the Referee can have sufficient time to assess.
In this particular incident the referee did not yell out the words "nine" and 'Ten" and I'm not even sure there is any actual rule that a referee even has to sound out the actual count verbally.
How DID the referee help Tyson? That was just about the FASTEST ever interjection and knockdown call I've ever seen and go and compare that to Panicky Pete Referee in Dubois vs AJ to see how AJ had to REALLLLY be hung on ropes getting two solid blows before Pete finally called it a knockdown.
BTW the Referee's 10 count (not timer, not 10 seconds) isn't usually considered the entire time including cleaning off the gloves, bringing them back to the center and then the exact moment the Referee does the 'continue' hand gesture. It's 10-count to assess.
There was no Standing-8 and there is no such thing anymore. I understand, I find myself calling something a 'Standing 8' because I'm old and grew up with it. 'Standing 8' was removed from most all the boxing orgs (that I know of?) for about 20 years now I think.
I've watched the first fight at least 15 times I love it. Usyk won that fight easy 7-5 maybe 8-4. Your bangon Usyk had to work very hard , he worked and pushed Fury most of the fight. I loved it when Usyk got Fury in a head lock and showed him off to the crowd round 9. As you say , Fury is not as fit , I think it's possible Usyk comes in around 230. Usyk is gonna knock Fury out this time , if the ref is straight , aswell as the WBC judge. Catman 17 win . Thanks for the breakdown , I enjoyed it 👍💥🥊
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Very very good video
I just checked Fury's Boxrec. He was 15.75 lbs lighter for Usyk than for Ngannou. Considering the size of the man, and the fact that he did look overweight against Francis, losing 15.75 lbs over the course of 7 months, which included 2 full training camps, under the supervision of a nutritionist and a S&C coach, is not going to affect his punch resistance.
Will coming in heavier for the rematch help him? That depends what his game plan is going to be. If he's true to his word and boxes exactly the same as he did in the first fight, then being heavier won't benefit him and is more likely to be a handicap. It will slow his movement and could affect his stamina negatively. If he intends to be more aggressive and try to bully Usyk, then it might help him do that.
one fighting for true hour and one fighting for greed.
he's not fit enough. Someone who only gets fit for fights can't compete with a full time athlete who has been doing the right thing all his life.
Well he can compete, even with Usyk. To a point. His size can be an advantage but if he doesn't stop Usyk early he may gas. And this is heavyweight boxing so any outcome is possible.
@@chrisstrange9828 all true I just think his fitness was the key factor last time and is likely to be so again.
Usyk is one of the greatest man that has ever lived.
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Great vid as per us Mr Stunner! 🫡
Just as a sidenote, the Inoue fight is on Christmas Eve, not Boxing Day! I'd hate for you to get caught out & not see the great man live in action 👊🏾🥊
Shit! Thanks for the heads up! I probably had Boxing Day in my head because of last year's card.
Looking fresh Joe
Tyson is a very smart fighter, he will have learned.
Good take Joe 🥊💯
Really looking forward to this fight a can't think of a way tyson gets the job done but you never know
I feel the same but if the fight is anything like the first (which I did not think was close by the way) then I can see the judges robbing Usyk.
Tyson called his trilogy with Wilder the greatest in the history of the galaxy! LOL!
It's probably almost impossible for FURY to beat USYK on point's. I'd say he has to get the knockout. AJ couldn't do it twice & dubois couldn't stop USYK either. Can FURY do it???? I hope so🏴🥊🥊
I felt no need to see a rematch as I had it a pretty obvious Usyk win. It's not just that Usyk wins 8 of the rounds and add another point for a knockdown but that the 'story' of the entire fight is Usyk deciding, Usyk carrying out the win on Usyks clock. This includes Usyk (as he often does) letting Fury exhaust himself for the 3 rounds and then Usyk culiminating it all in a winning run to the end.
Something to consider: the '10 point MUST system' was originally made to replace a '3-point' concept where many complained there would be no way to score more for (example) a fighter absolutely acing a round by a huge margin vs scoring a very very close round.
The dumbest thing is that judges just simply made it a '3 point' system. That said, IF there was ever a legit round to score '10-7 it was Usyks 9th. That wasn't (example) Zhang and Parker are in a relatively even round but Zhang knocks him back in a kind of flash 'weight-driven' knockdown BUT Parker is up and at him.
That was Usyk banging him pillar-to-post over and over and yes it could well have been stopped.
Had a judge scored that 10-7 I don't think anyone would have complained.
I'm absolutely not a Fury fan because of his behavior outside the ring and I don't think he can master Usyk due to a co-ordination and skills gap. He can hurt Usyk though and i have put $$ on Fury just in case he catches Usyk and stops him - the wager is to assuage my hurt butt if he does win 😂
Btw, would love to see a video of great British HW - perhaps starting with the much beloved Our 'Enry ?
It's on the list. Watch this space.
It's crazy how Usyk has a better resume than Fury and AJ. Kind of embarrassing for them. Hes beaten AJ, Fury, and Dubois... all arguabley in their prime years.. and handled them with ease.
Mentality Usyk, its mount -Everest...........Fury-?!?!?!?!?;?!?!
Mount Everbest
Fury creat boxer!!! Usyk sometimes reminds me of someone, Cassius Clay........
Wow...it really is close. Didnt notice. I'm leaning usyk points but i can absolutely see fury getting some sort of TKO situation
You mean like usyk should of had in the first fight tko i mean.
Tyson will be fit for the rematch this is not the Ardis fight that Tyson, I’ve faced a lot harder Tyson will come in on top form and Tyson can be dangerous when he is in that Frame of mind for me Tyson knockout? Usyk can’t take body shots Tyson will be all over usyk best man wins 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I dont put much stock in what the numbers of his weight were and are
Im more concerned with how ACCLIMATISED he is at WHATEVER weight he is at.
He looked very new at that weight back in may. It looked like a fat camp. His body looked soft and soggy. Just didnt look right. Totally agree with GMAN when he made that observation. I was thinking the same thing myself
Even when fury was talking in interviews. His SKIN hanging off his face. All loose and saggy
Im glad he is coming in at a COMFORTABLE weight this time. He needs to be comfy and he needs to get Usyks respect within the first minute or 2
In MY opinion. He needs to give Usyk something to be concerned about. Because last time . He had NOTHING to be concerned with until round 4
It’s been another fat loss camp for fury, very bad idea ballooning up again, can’t perform in the gym when you’re having a fat loss camp. I disagree that coming in heavier is a good thing, I agreed with Shane mcguigans assesment that his feet will be too slow and he will be even easier to hit, it may help his punch resistance but I still think it’s a negative. I think Usyk stops him late if fury is 270+. I saw Fury at Joshua Dubois and he looked about 300 pounds
I can't see the rematch going the full distance somebody is definitely getting sparked out
no discussion whatsoever on the cumulative effects of drugs and booze on the body. boxing analysts aren't the sharpest pencils in the drawer.
Flabs can win n Usyk can win..so much talk about Flab's condition ..his legs,his punch resistance yada yada yada..thrs a 3rd factor here..the trilogy.the 3rd match will be mega money..boxing has a history of corruption..i mean the first fight in no way was a split decision..also anybody else n the ref woulda stopped the fight in the 9th so no consistency there..n quite Frankly as much as i think Turki has reinvigorated boxing..i dont trust him..i def don't trust Frank n Flabs n we live in a smoke n mirrors world.unless it's undeniably one sided ..usyk will need a KO..a Flabs loss diminishes a potential AJ fight ..so for the money men a Flabs victory is undoubtedly more desirable.who knows how this will end..i guess its wait n watch
There's a lot to this - the $$ men certainly want a trilogy
this is that conspiracy shit Joe Stunner likes so much :)
Check your channel. I was unsubscribed for no reason. Had to rejoin. 💪
Cheers, mate. Welcome back.
FURY WINS BY SPLIT DECISION REFS PAID BONUS MONEY
I decided not to even watch the rematch. Fury said publicly he only fights for the money and usyk is a damn phony.
Did nobody notice how when parteidetried to grab him later on usyk just used his arm and applied aa throw away wrestle technique and flicked him off to the ropes like a potato sack
Tyson will be fit for the rematch this is not the Ardis fight that Tyson, I’ve faced a lot harder Tyson will come in on top form and Tyson can be dangerous when he is in that Frame of mind for me Tyson knockout? Usyk can’t take body shots Tyson will be all over usyk best man wins 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥