Is Charizard OVERRATED in Pokemon Red / Blue / Yellow?

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  • @pokerebels
    @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What do YOU think? Is Charizard OVERRATED?

  • @petercarioscia9189
    @petercarioscia9189 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a kid, I STUBBORNLY stuck with Charizard through thick and thin...I refused to EVER use Blastoise since my older brother used it, so screw that.
    In the gen3 remakes, I'm team Bulbasaur. I have fond memories of my derpy dragon bro, but Bulbasaur is definitely number 1 in my heart now.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always chose Bulbasaur as a kid but was bullied into thinking it was no good. That Charmander and Squirtle were the only common sense options. I'm glad I was able to keep Bulba on my team

    • @aikou2886
      @aikou2886 ปีที่แล้ว

      I very much prefer Charizard but I pick Squirtle on FR/LG since I love Raikou and your legendary cat/beast is determined by the starter you pick.

  • @lazyhippie6139
    @lazyhippie6139 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually like it once you get Swords Dance. It easily solos Sabrina. And in Yellow, it can get Fly, which, when combined with Earthquake/ Dig, is pretty good coverage.
    It's not the best starter, but it's fun. It does struggle in the beginning when it just has Ember.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's actually a solid point. Really good moveset

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brock isn't that bad honestly. His Pokemon have low Special which can be exploited and you can get turns if you score the burn and he has nothing to hit you Super Effective with though Geodude has pretty high Attack for that point in the game and you have to play around Bide against Onix. Misty is a huge problem though. Staryu isn't overly difficult but Starmie is just really strong for the point in the game you encounter it and really strong overall.

  • @nononsensenuzlocke3596
    @nononsensenuzlocke3596 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think I need to choose Charizard - he sounds elite!

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      He might not be the best choice! More to come!

  • @FatalRanger-fo1gx
    @FatalRanger-fo1gx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Charizard is the hard difficulty Pokémon. I always pick him just cause his line has always been my favorite.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a fair point!

  • @Owlr4ider
    @Owlr4ider 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Misty is actually easy enough starting as Charmander. Simply catch Pikachu early on, he's literally 1 of the first Pokémon you can catch, and just level it alongside Charmander so he'll have enough xp to stand up to Starmie and wreck her with his type advantage.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the chance to encounter it isn't favorable

    • @Owlr4ider
      @Owlr4ider 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pokerebels It's really not that bad. It's better than trying to catch Caterpie/Beedle in Blue/Red respectively, I've never had issues getting my Pikachu in Viridian Forest when I wanted him and it never took too long.

  • @jschmidty2332
    @jschmidty2332 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely seems like Blastoise is the way to go. Can't wait to see what this series is going to cover next!

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! We are excited for it!

    • @aleckermit
      @aleckermit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Venusaur is great for a playthrough because her leech seed and mega drain moves save a lot of time and money on frequent potion use.

  • @sangerharpreet4994
    @sangerharpreet4994 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I liked this video for its excellent content which has been of great help to me

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the comment Sanger! Glad it helped!

  • @mafiaseargent
    @mafiaseargent ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was a kid my first playthough was with a charizard. By the time I got to the elite 4 it was like lvl 75 or 80. As a kid the concept of building a team didn't occur to me so I just muscled my way through the game with it using other mons for guest appearances in fights where he went down.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeeting mons into the battle - that's how we did it

    • @mafiaseargent
      @mafiaseargent ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pokerebels that's how we did it the old days! No strategy or plans. Just send out your strongest guy and spam your strongest attack. And that's how we liked it!

    • @justinjackson5468
      @justinjackson5468 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I did this with typhlosion in silver.😂

  • @jaketno
    @jaketno ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I picked Charmander once. I probably won't again lol but it was better than I thought it would be. Good enough attack to be a very effective Dig user, and I was really surprised at how well Brock went all things considered. But ya this game isn't too kind to fire types lol At least it's lucky enough to learn Flamethrower. (Eventually) Without a Flamethrower TM in this game, other fire types get it even worse.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This game don't like fire types - I am convinced of it

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brock's Pokemon having low Special and a limited team helps. If he had a Kabuto or Omanyte, you'd be stuck. Charizard's got the widest movepool among the Gen 1 Fire types and its stats are good enough for it. Getting Earthquake which the other Fire types are jealous of. I think a few others score Dig though.

    • @jaketno
      @jaketno ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiningJudgment666 Ya true. Others can also learn Dig (Growlithe/Arcanine comes to mind immediately) but by the time you reach the ability to get more fire types (Without a hack of course) you'll most likely already have something else that could put the TM to use.

  • @SonicTeam2008
    @SonicTeam2008 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought I could trust Charizard - but I guess I was wrong 😞

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I too was disappointed. But he is still a good mon!

  • @herbmaaster
    @herbmaaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so tired of Chawizawd
    where's my 7 star Venusaur teraraid battle?? they must think little of fans.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Venusaur is great actually

  • @moneytalksbswalks8855
    @moneytalksbswalks8855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Charizard? I can't believe this!

  • @ivordundic6095
    @ivordundic6095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember I thought Charizard was so much better than my other pokemon because he was always a higher level than the rest and leveling quicker.
    When it was really my hyper-biased agenda using him way more than the rest because he was my favourite 😂
    Loved him so much from the gen 1 days, and still do.
    Not because I thought he was better, but because he simply just had the coolest design to me as well as name, and easily the best arc of all pokemon the anime.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a fair point Ivor!

  • @evanwilliams6406
    @evanwilliams6406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I picked Charizard about twice in my playthroughs of Red and Blue and it did okay. I had better luck with the other two starters. Charmander's line may look good but there was a price for all that beauty and power and it's the games matchups and its bad movepool. Charmander's line is a life lesson, while something may look good in theory and in appearance, it doesn't mean it is going to be effective all the time. This is where your teambuilding skills come into play because it needs help from teammates.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      All that glitters is not gold

    • @marcosgalvis3498
      @marcosgalvis3498 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weren't all three starters labelled as the game difficulty setting?
      Bulbasaur being easy mode.
      Squirtle being normal mode.
      Charmander being hard mode.

    • @1992holycrap
      @1992holycrap ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly, it seems the Gen-Wunners(& GameFreak themselves) failed to actually *LEARN* that lesson!

  • @khaos_theorem7842
    @khaos_theorem7842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Screw Charizard, let's discuss why Poliwhirl which learns psychic moves evolves into a fricken fighting type?!! Poliwrath should've just lost its water typing and become psychic/fighting since the Poliwag line is meant to be a tadpole evolving to leave water..

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you would think - THAT's the real question

    • @khaos_theorem7842
      @khaos_theorem7842 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pokerebels Probably thanks to the anime ep where Charizard loses to Poliwrath that got me thinking. Then Charizard learns to trust Ash and goes to beat a water fighting type with seismic toss and flamethrower instead of any flying attack. Far out Pokemon anime is so dumb haha

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the good thing about Charmander is that it allows easy grind in the forest. It struggles but it has a quicker way to level up early on.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and making sure it levels up quickly is such a great thing

  • @TheXV1CT0Rx
    @TheXV1CT0Rx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subscribed.
    I love me some Charizard but in game he is never on my teams. Unless I’m tryna put on a show

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the sub 🙏🏽 We loveeee Charizard

  • @aikou2886
    @aikou2886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And this is why you delay a Pokemon's evolution, that way he gets to learn a better fire move by the time he reaches lv 32 or so (as a Charmander).

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That strat is so underrated tbh

  • @Heatseeker872591
    @Heatseeker872591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to say yes. He isnt as powerful as his trading card game counter part. I remember using charizard a few times on runs and i have to say he dont learn flamethrower until level 46 which is poor. Blastoise and venusaur are much better starters . Fire types are not even that important to have in gen 1 either when flying and ice types can beat all what a fire type can.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a shame that he is not as strong as in TCG

  • @swagbear9965
    @swagbear9965 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Charizard is great in all games! People just hate em bc its so popular

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      He definitely get stronger as the games go on!

  • @bellowingsilence
    @bellowingsilence ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have really never understood why Charizard wasn’t a Fire/Dragon type. That is all.

  • @golamkashef5255
    @golamkashef5255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Charizard makes you happy, go for it. If things were different and Blastoise was the hard one to play with, I'd still pick Blastoise.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blastoise for life I see ✊🏽

  • @likeitornot-cg1fy
    @likeitornot-cg1fy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know about others but... since the first wild pokemon are mostly birds, a fire starter seemed to be the easiest choice.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      He is a solid choice!

  • @cuddlebug8106
    @cuddlebug8106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a flying fire type that can’t learn fly. Yes charizard is overrated.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's fair - and such a missed opportunity

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo ปีที่แล้ว

      Well at least in yellow they fixed that.

  • @Chriskary1
    @Chriskary1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what iv'e learned about almost all Pokemon games is that water type Pokemon demolish every game! Although fire type is cooler, but unfortunately they are trash!

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very well said - aesthetics ain't everything

  • @rawbebaba
    @rawbebaba ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a lot of ways I agree but Charizard is by far and away the best fire Pokemon in the game, it's not even close. Sure Blastoise is great, but Lapras is just as good. Venusaur is really good early but just grab a Bellsprout. When you fully evolve it that thing is a killer. Charizard is the hardest to train, but it is the least replaceable. Now you don't NEED a fire type but Charizard lets you just smoke through all the grass type and bug types then Charizard massive speed and attack and special attack lets you go against pretty much anything. Charizard is much better gen 3

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree on being better in later Gens. I am sure there are alternates to the starters that work beautifully

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 ปีที่แล้ว

      Venusaur is probably better than Victreebell in a playthrough. It's bulkier and faster at the cost of some Attack and access to Stun Spore and Gen 1 Wrap and it does unfortunately have to wait until it has access to Gen 1 Sleep which is broken . The things that stop them are also similar. Fire types just got the short end of the starter type trio but honestly, they gave Charizard the most out of any Fire type. And yes, even Moltres which has great stats but no real movepool to use them effectively (at least it gets the strongest unboosted Special move in the game in STAB Fire Blast running off a base 125 Special stat and Hyper Beam, right? and can Pseudo Wrap trap with Agility and Fire Spin).

  • @Jac735
    @Jac735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like blastoise better but the only thing I didn't like with red and blue is when you use Squirtle it had tackle instead of scratch ➕️ your rival had Gyarados which I didn't like so after a while I realized I'm going to start the game with Charmander so I like both of them to be exact but if I was playing with the gameplay I would choose Charmander just because of your rival LOL

  • @cathallynch1
    @cathallynch1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to get really annoyed with the anime too as Charizard was always defiant and then Ash just left him at summer camp with all the other Charizard.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 Charizard was wild

  • @josephmort4039
    @josephmort4039 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just overleveled my Charizard before teaching Misty a lesson in respecting fire types. I embered down her entire gym.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Burned down her entire village lol - I love it 😂

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you've leveled up enough to get Slash, you should be able to beat her.

    • @manher4335
      @manher4335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiningJudgment666 That's what i did way back when I had red version. Slash help out a lot. It worked like karate chop lol

  • @TheSonicEmpireChannel
    @TheSonicEmpireChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also charizard is actually a lizard with wings.

  • @559Gengar
    @559Gengar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love chameleon thats why next I evolved my magikarp into a gyarados

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait what do you mean???

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He's kinda boring.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      He must be basic then

  • @emkalina
    @emkalina ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dig is great on it, and fly in yellow

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - the updated mechanics really do them justice!

    • @cuddlebug8106
      @cuddlebug8106 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only yellow.

  • @giovannireyes9455
    @giovannireyes9455 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How can anyone not like Charizard??
    *GF shoves him down or throat for 9 gens
    Ahh, that's how.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now you knoww 😂

  • @justaguy8824
    @justaguy8824 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are Charmader - Charmeleon and Charizard designs cool? Yes! Is good though? Nope! The reason is simple is a Fire Type and Fire Types in Gen 1 are bad. However it feels like you play pokemon on hardcore mode since you struggle against Broke, Misty, Blane, Lorelei, Agatha and Lance. Don't even mention the struggle against every water type trainer in the region, also out of 3 starters Charizard is a Glass Cannon which means if it's not strong enough to beat certain NPC's you will be in despair regreting "not wasting time" training it more. Which means you kinda have to fight the majority of the trainers Region to pass first try against Gym Leaders & the Elite 4.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a fair point

  • @seawind930
    @seawind930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How you don't go mad with the smoke alarm low battery noise constantly going off in your videos is beyond me.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fixing it in the future ones 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pokerebels Not complaining, I just respect the will you need to get through that.

  • @mlpocsidetrack
    @mlpocsidetrack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a lot of his hype is from the card game.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see it - he was really powerful in TCG

  • @eliseeodra4714
    @eliseeodra4714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree charizard is really good you just need a good moveset

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What move set do you want to go for

  • @Cba409
    @Cba409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol charizard is trash in red and blue.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Is he better in other gens in your opinion?

  • @joegarcia9951
    @joegarcia9951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You weak on this playthrough, charizard by lt surge , grind 💪

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine you mean wreck - thank you 🙏🏽

    • @joegarcia9951
      @joegarcia9951 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pokerebels nope I mean it, I grind for days on rpg style games , pokemon red/(blue,green) I had charizard by surge

  • @NTroncoso
    @NTroncoso ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Charizard is a BEAST

  • @kevinvest9693
    @kevinvest9693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Charazard is much better in gen 3 but he's even better in yellow for learn fly.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Learning Fly was so clutch

  • @veghesther3204
    @veghesther3204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because its weak against the first 2 gyms and against Blaine its nearly useful its more UNDER rated in GEN 1 the best starter of the 3 IMHO is almost always going to be Bulbasaur in the Red/Blue games including its Gen 3 remake.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Bulba is GOATed but I see what you're saying

  • @d.f.9140
    @d.f.9140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chose it always as squirtle is to easy and bulbasaur just lame.
    Once you delay the evolution a bit it becomes better.
    And as I, even as a child, build balenced teams, it stood out as an irreplaceable Fire type.
    I stomped the Elite 4 as a Flying type spec. with charizard, gyarados, aerodactyle, dragonite, zapdos and scyther. Peace of cake, no over leveling, just go and had fun. I even traded an underleveled charmander into my silver version.
    And after that again an underleveled charmander, plus totodile into gen 3 ruby to have them in my team with treeko.
    Bulbasaur is for people wanting to have Charizard in the rival fight and body them with gyarados and squirtle is for pussies and poser.
    Little fire lizard for enjoyer.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a goooood team

    • @joshuagonzalez4183
      @joshuagonzalez4183 ปีที่แล้ว

      that’s something an charizard fanboy/stan would say

  • @yeahyeahwowman8099
    @yeahyeahwowman8099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's the worst starter in the original games. It is much better to pick bulbasaur or squirtle.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Bulba is the one for meee

  • @juliand.breakdown463
    @juliand.breakdown463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best starter no questions

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oooop he’s a true friend

  • @nordicgaming2572
    @nordicgaming2572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best starter. Far from overrated.

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nicee take!

    • @Breadstockimage
      @Breadstockimage ปีที่แล้ว

      He's good, gamefreak just gave him too much attention recently and that's what made people hate him.

  • @559Gengar
    @559Gengar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love chameleon thats why next I evolved my magikarp into a gyarados

    • @pokerebels
      @pokerebels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait what do you mean???

    • @559Gengar
      @559Gengar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pokerebels gyarados takes care of that problem