Mariano Rivera Was Even Better Than You Think

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    5:55 - His career ERA+ is actually 205. Tough typo to make on our part :(

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  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube ปีที่แล้ว +224

    After Rivera's "bad" season, he started mixing in more 2 seam fastballs that break the opposite way from his cutter. That bought him another decade or so of dominance.

    • @GuidoLuzzi
      @GuidoLuzzi ปีที่แล้ว +19

      he also had an outstanding changeup but he never threw it during games. only spring training games

    • @madxD144
      @madxD144 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@GuidoLuzzioutstanding pitch that can be still considered a weak link in his repertoire

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also helped that after 2002 he starts working on his conditioning as well.

    • @jhawkkw87
      @jhawkkw87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GuidoLuzziIf I recall an interview he gave at one point, the reason he never really threw the changeup is because he didn't have nearly as good command over the changeup as he did his cut and two-seam fastballs. So while it would have been a devastating out pitch, he didn't want to get beat throwing it. He was so confident that he'd get the hitter with his fastballs, and to be fair he was right and it made him a legend.

  • @RetroBaseball
    @RetroBaseball ปีที่แล้ว +59

    There’s just nothing like a brand new stark raving sports video!

  • @isaacgraham5727
    @isaacgraham5727 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just want to share another anecdote from the 2004 post-season finale that often gets unfairly forgotten.
    What most people remember from the 2004 season is the massive comeback the Red Sox pulled off against the Yankees in the ALCS, including a dramatic 9th-inning comeback against Rivera where the Sox managed to score a run against him with…. a single BB, a single SB, and a single seeing-eye single through tie infield; which is what you have to do to score a run against Rivera when you can barely get the ball out of the infield.
    What people forget is that Rivera suffered a crazy personal tragedy at the start of that ALCS. As I recall two of his cousins (both kids or teens I think) whom he and his family were close to were swimming in a pool at Rivers’s house in the D-R, and both died of electrocution in that pool at Rivers’s house due to mishap.
    I believe he had been dealing with all of that and the funeral arrangements and such when he had to fly back to NYC that night to be available to pitch Game 1. Which he did, ultimately getting 4-out saves in both game 1 *and* game 2 of that series. Which honestly blows my mind about as much as any detail about that 2004 ALCS.

  • @gdbalck
    @gdbalck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1996 Yankees went 70 - 3 when they had a lead after the 6th inning - Mariano would pitch the 7th and 8th setting up for Wetland. It was an amazing one-two set up.

  • @PeterOkeefe54
    @PeterOkeefe54 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I(and family) had the great good fortune to watch and meet Mariano. My daughter is handicapped and he NEVER passed her by at the stadium. He always came and took pics with her. He is one of the finest player and person you will ever see

  • @nimthewise158
    @nimthewise158 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always argued about that. Ppl always complained about him throwing the same piches, my response always was "so what you saying is, they knew it was coming and still failed"

  • @jessrose4301
    @jessrose4301 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grew up going to Yankee Stadium and as a kid would lose my mind every time Enter Sandman came on. I loved Mo. (Paul O'Neil was my favorite though) Honestly, my love of baseball diminished A LOT after Mo and Jeter retired.

  • @OH_MY_DOGGG
    @OH_MY_DOGGG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess that makes 2001 shine in terms of World Series because that was the first time Rivera looked mortal out there

    • @birdzilla106
      @birdzilla106 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And even then, he pitched brilliantly. His biggest failure in that game was his errant throw to second base which resulted in the situation that everyone remembers. He lost the game with a really good pitch that Gonzalez fended off over the drawn-in infield.

  • @Guido520
    @Guido520 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He also had a great change up that he never used except spring training

  • @TaTopePia
    @TaTopePia ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing that should add to how good he was, and how head and shoulders above everyone else he was, is that closers RARELY have long careers, whereas there are always starters who you can see making the HOF. So often guys will come out of the gate hot and seem untouchable like they're the next Rivera, but the stresses of so many 9th innings and high-pressure situations eventually breaks them. I think of Gagne, Papelbon, Lidge, guys who had stretches of brilliance but couldn't quite put together the HOF career (also why I think Billy Wagner should eventually get in, we're seeing how rare it is to be that good for that long as a closer). Rivera and Hoffman are above the rest, and Rivera is clearly above Hoffman because of the playoff edge.
    I'd love to see how many 4+ out saves/outings Rivera had in his career. Guys like Kimbrel absolutely fall apart once they have to go more than one inning, but I distinctly remember Rivera coming into games as early as one out in the 8th just to stop the bleeding.

  • @garyjoseph2767
    @garyjoseph2767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rollie Fingers, Dennis Eckersly, Goose Gossage and God help us Bruce Sutter all came in on a regular run on second, third nobody out save the came. Came in in the seventh or eighth to face the best hitters on other teams. He was great for his empty bade start an inning era

  • @LrrOfOmicronPersei8
    @LrrOfOmicronPersei8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unironically the highlight of my yankees season

  • @isaacgraham5727
    @isaacgraham5727 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t think he’s even better than I remember, speaking as a Red Sox fan who would watch nearly every game from 2002 - 2018 or thereabouts. I watched Rivera pitch a *lot* and I have no qualms with saying that he’s among the top 3 relievers to ever throw a baseball, if not in the top 1.
    Trying to get a hit off Rivera was basically impossible if you were a left-handed hitter (you were more likely to get your bat sawed in half by a cutter) and only insanely difficult if you were a right-handed hitter - but maybe you had a chance to get to first base then, whereupon your team would still lose.

  • @forgerelli1
    @forgerelli1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm the biggest Mariano collector on the planet with more baseball cards than you can imagine, including more than one thousand autographs going back to his first year in the minors, so I've talked with a lot of people that have interacted with him. I've never heard a single bad word about him as a person. Not one.

    • @northstarjakobs
      @northstarjakobs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love hearing about players who are just dominant and terrifying on the field and really swell guys off the field. Someone you'd love to grab a beer with or run into at the grocery store but absolutely hate to step into the batter's box against.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a couple who does have something negative to say about him but they also have credibility issues as well. One example is Paul Priore whom you may have heard somewhere.

    • @forgerelli1
      @forgerelli1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iamhungey12345 I had to look that guy up. He's clearly looney tunes and looking for a pay out.

    • @Iamhungey
      @Iamhungey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@forgerelli1 Exactly.

  • @216marketing9
    @216marketing9 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOAT. And I'm a Tribe fan.

  • @showtimenick824
    @showtimenick824 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how you ended this! 😂

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the funny thing is NONE of these guys today or during or BEFORE Rivera came CLOSE. Rivera does not care if you swing and miss or make contact and break your bat. THE GAME IS OVER... 0:50

  • @Yellowfver783
    @Yellowfver783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mo might never be passed on greatness. I have nothing against him cause he blew a couple big saves against the Sox. Mo is the GOAT

  • @kalensechler2132
    @kalensechler2132 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wins is generally a bad stat for closers since it usually comes after they blow a save and their team ends up winning it in the bottom half of the inning.

  • @manvites
    @manvites ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss Mo. Every reliever I make in a baseball game always has a Cutter.

  • @hushpuckena126
    @hushpuckena126 ปีที่แล้ว

    You knew what was coming and were still hard put to do anything with him.
    This Red Sox fan says: Rivera was the GOAT.

  • @tmacbaseball
    @tmacbaseball ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! Mariano's numbers are unbelievable

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would rather have Rivera as my closer than deGrom as a starter on my team, period. Not hate at all. Rivera does not even have a true COMPARABLE 7:47 and Rivera could pitch in any inning and was often used for 2 innings, and at times, even three.

  • @johnanthony9923
    @johnanthony9923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ironically, he's also responsible for two of the biggest blown saves in Yankee history.

  • @Redsoxman9991
    @Redsoxman9991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Degrom isn’t the best in human history. If he got good earlier and stayed healthy then that argument would have a lot more ground to stand on.

    • @rancidcrawfish
      @rancidcrawfish ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For real. He's a nasty pitcher when he's actually playing. I think he's averaging 11 starts in the past 4 seasons

  • @garyjoseph2767
    @garyjoseph2767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put out a real fire...second and third no one out...heart of the lineup up

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He did that in the postseason numerous times.

  • @tyroilsmoochie-wallace
    @tyroilsmoochie-wallace ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Dodgers do have a mickey mouse ring tho

  • @fredcasdensworld
    @fredcasdensworld ปีที่แล้ว

    No he isn't, dude blew 80s saves, he's exactly as good as I think he is

  • @hmuhmunkunkuapua
    @hmuhmunkunkuapua ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those of us who were around to see the great career of Rivera know exactly how good he was.

    • @verbalhologram885
      @verbalhologram885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember being a kid. (Wasn't a Yankees fan nor any team from the AL) I already knew it was over. At his peak, he was throwing mid to high 90s with great movement. That cutter was something else. I remember being shocked when Sandy Alomar Jr. hit a HR off of him in 1997 ALDS.

  • @Speedster___
    @Speedster___ ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a Reliever Era+

    • @SirTylerGolf
      @SirTylerGolf ปีที่แล้ว

      What need is there for it? How would it differ from regular era+

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SirTylerGolf would help when being put in when there’s scoring opportunities and such

  • @DrAnarchy69
    @DrAnarchy69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before I found out he was a Trump supporter I loved Mariano Rivera. He’s a monster in terms of his politics but he was the best relief pitcher of all time.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing wrong with his politics.

  • @ayoPHREEK
    @ayoPHREEK ปีที่แล้ว

    When mitt Romney tan for president? Don’t you mean Obama? 😂

    • @hannibalhobbes4289
      @hannibalhobbes4289 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They both ran. Obama did twice, so mentioning Romney instantly places it in 2012. Running for President and winning the Presidency are two different things.

    • @ayoPHREEK
      @ayoPHREEK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannibalhobbes4289 ahhh makes sense

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just forever thankful that he folded in 2004.

  • @garyjoseph2767
    @garyjoseph2767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baseball has changed so much but greatest is great for an eternity not a one inning Era. So keep your bases empty start the ninth inning no one on stats to yourself

  • @OSUFilm
    @OSUFilm ปีที่แล้ว

    First

  • @lukasgestrine
    @lukasgestrine ปีที่แล้ว

    Jose Valverde was better

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube ปีที่แล้ว +129

    My favorite Rivera story: he had NO idea his entrance song was Enter Sandman for a really long time. He was so focused when he entered, he never even heard it. That's not his style of music. He likes carribean music (if I remember correctly, like Harry Bellefonte?). He wasn't familiar with Metallica until fairly late into his career.

    • @forgerelli1
      @forgerelli1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He listens to mostly Christian music.

    • @daBEAGLE1017
      @daBEAGLE1017 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should listen to Bernie Williams music.

    • @onemileperhour
      @onemileperhour ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He listens to mostly Nickleback music

    • @MikeCee7
      @MikeCee7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was Mariano Rivera, the only player that used this walkout song? Was there sort of written (or unwritten rule) that only once a player uses the song, than no other player can use that song ?
      & was this song (chosen by Yankees mgmt) was it selected, before or after Virginia Tech started using this song?

    • @Sam_on_YouTube
      @Sam_on_YouTube 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MikeCee7 Definitely no written rule. Not sure how many have used it. It certainly is a pretty obvious choice and it wouldn't surprise me if many have used it. But because of his greatness, it got associated with him and if anyone else uses it now, they DAMN well better be one of the all time greatest. Gotta back it up.
      The song is from 1991. Rivera first used it in 1999. Not sure how long before he noticed.

  • @cobrallama6236
    @cobrallama6236 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The greatest reliever to ever do it, especially in the playoffs. His greatest kryptonite? The greatest DH to ever do it, Edgar Martinez of the Seattle Mariners. The Seattle Mariners biggest kryptonite? Making the playoffs. 😂

    • @BKF0
      @BKF0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He just hates Hall of Fame DHs

    • @Kourumeme
      @Kourumeme ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike trout and ohtani greatest krpytonite. Not making the playoffs at all

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interestingly Edgar's numbers against Mo was frontloaded. If you look up on the splits there was a drop off being had starting in the 2000s. Plus for someone who was known as the "Yankee Killer" due to his exploits in 1995 ALDS, he didn't live up to it when the M's needed him in 2000 and 2001 ALCS.

    • @AponteGaming64
      @AponteGaming64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ichiro also hit him pretty well, but Ichiro also said his Cutter was the single hardest pitch he ever had to face.

  • @michaelcooke5695
    @michaelcooke5695 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    1996 was actually before Mariano developed his cutter, which makes that season even more insane. He was the best reliever in baseball and had opposing managers saying he belongs in an even higher league than MLB and THEN he starting throwing the greatest pitch in baseball history.

    • @birdzilla106
      @birdzilla106 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He was the setup guy in '96 for dominant closer and WS MVP John Wetteland, but was so dominant himself that the Yankees let Wetteland go, and made him their closer.

    • @snerdterguson
      @snerdterguson ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I recall correctly, that was Jim Leyland who said he belongs in a higher league than MLB.

    • @martinmunoz7798
      @martinmunoz7798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still would change all the half of his saved games or even more, for the blown saves against the diamond backs and probably even if you aren't a Yankee fan you know the other team, man I know it is just a "game" but those two were devastating, and anforgeteble an a bad way, but it is what it is

    • @snerdterguson
      @snerdterguson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinmunoz7798 how dare he be human. Geez, .70 era in a full season worth of postseason games and that’s not good enough🙄

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snerdterguson Could be worse, there are idiots who thinks 2001 should discredit everything he had done.

  • @BendyDH
    @BendyDH ปีที่แล้ว +34

    As a Sox fan growing up, seeing Mariano on my tv screen as a kid might as well have been my worst nightmare. Mad respect though, there has never been anybody to do it like him or likely ever willl again.

  • @sendAJtospace
    @sendAJtospace ปีที่แล้ว +90

    This man has .1 less WAR than Dave freakin’ Stieb as a closer 😭

    • @petekowalczuk4795
      @petekowalczuk4795 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And steib was the best pitcher of the eighties!

    • @dafttassia1960
      @dafttassia1960 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dave Stieb mentioned!
      🤷‍♂️

    • @snerdterguson
      @snerdterguson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stieb was great. He threw one no hitter and I think 2 or 3 times he had one broken up in the 9th with 2 outs. He did it in back to back games.

    • @rorymurphy4315
      @rorymurphy4315 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Secret base has a great series on Steib

    • @petekowalczuk4795
      @petekowalczuk4795 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rorymurphy4315 it is a great series one of the most underrated and unlucky players of all time

  • @jimo3173
    @jimo3173 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Also, Trever Hoffman finished with 501 saves and 76 blown saves for his career. When Mariano reached 502 saves to pass Hoffman, he had 72 blown saves. In that apples-to-apples comparison, Mariano still comes out on top.

    • @caseynaus882
      @caseynaus882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was actually 601 not 501 bud. Look up your stats before you make a comment about them buddy 😂

    • @susanmullen8648
      @susanmullen8648 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The regular season "saves" stat doesn't begin to describe Mo's greatness. There's no comparison betw. Mo and Hoffman. Hoffman's stature was raised when his name was mentioned along with Mo--such as above commenter Jim has done. The Padres promoted the "total save stat" to sell tickets, so obviously Hoffman's saves weren't multiple inning appearances. Hoffman only pitched 13 postseason innings, 3.46 ERA. Rivera pitched 144 postseason innings, equivalent to two full regular seasons @70 ip, with .70 ERA.

    • @gnielsen07
      @gnielsen07 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@susanmullen8648Mariano is twice the pitcher Hoffman was but that’s no slight on Hoffman. They’re similar because they both relied on 1 pitch to get outs (hoffman’s changeup)

  • @showtimenick824
    @showtimenick824 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:11 Michael Jordan playing against plumbers is not only a cliche buzz phrase, it's also the dumbest thing anyone has ever said in world history.

  • @Trillyana
    @Trillyana ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just one thing I wanted to note is that he didn't exclusively pitch 1 inning at a time. If my memory serves me correct, he pitched more than 1 inning many, many times.

    • @manuelpinzon7207
      @manuelpinzon7207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Torre put him a lot of 2 innings and in the Boone hr again Boston he pitched 3

    • @TheLockdownKidNYC
      @TheLockdownKidNYC ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point. Rivera often came in for the 8th. As he did in Game 7 2001 which points to him possibly being gassed by the end of that post season.

    • @10Peter25
      @10Peter25 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheLockdownKidNYC I recall the TV analyst (the late Tim McCarver?) saying before the Game 7 walk-off that Rivera's one vulnerability was to the jam-shot, broken-bat flare single to center field. Not the home run nor the 110-mph line drive, but the little blooper that finds a gap in the defense. The weak flare single against a draw-in infield is exactly what Luis Gonzalez hit to beat Mo. If Jeter and Soriano had been playing at normal infield depth, they would most likely have turned that hit into an inning-ending double play. (There were also some defensive mistakes, one a throwing error by Rivera, that led to the blown save, so it wasn't exactly like the D-backs teed off on Rivera.)

    • @TheLockdownKidNYC
      @TheLockdownKidNYC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@10Peter25
      Definitely some human error in that last inning but the lead off single, botched bunt, AND the double really set the stage. Rivera blows the save no matter what.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheLockdownKidNYC It feels as if Murphy's Law is in play there. Keep in mind he broke three bats that inning which tells you something, even that double felt like a floater compare to how it normally goes. Also it should be noted that even had the double play been made on Gonzo there's no guarantee the Yankees would win in the extras unless Brenly decides to send out Kim again and that assumes whoever takes over for Mo holds the ground long enough.

  • @J.C...
    @J.C... ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nah. I watched him play. I know how great he was. I was there. Just like seeing Juniors sweet swing. You just had to be there. ❤️🙏

  • @modsquad3123
    @modsquad3123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get off degroms nuts, he will go down as a guy in baseball history who had the best stuff for a small period and a high risk asset/stock that didnt pay dividends….

  • @castlefreeland
    @castlefreeland ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mariano Rivera is in his own tier when it comes to the modern day closer. 205 ERA+ for his career having to handle one of the toughest reliever spots in sports and a big reason why the Yankees won 4/5 between 1996-2000 and darn near close to winning another one in 2001.

  • @lamardays883
    @lamardays883 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More men have walked on the moon(12) than have scored on Mo Rivera in the playoffs(11).

  • @lyriktehuti
    @lyriktehuti ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He was so good that by the time us yankee fans and the rest of the world saw him blow a big game under pressure…..we couldn’t believe that it happened. We couldn’t believe he gave up a run. It had been 6 years.
    That series against the Dbacks was the beginning of the end of the Yankee dynasty. Haven’t been the same since.

    • @castlefreeland
      @castlefreeland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And even then they won a pennant in 2003 and a World Series in 2009 with Jeter, Posada, Rivera, and Petitte still playing significant roles.

    • @lyriktehuti
      @lyriktehuti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@castlefreeland 2 game 7 losses to the “upstart” Dbacks and Marlins. Because of GREAT pitching and our bats going cold. We went away from the contact hitting teams of the dynasty and went bopper 1-9. I wonder why that sounds familiar? 🤔

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wouldn't say the beginning of the end, it was the end of the dynasty. To be honest the fact that the Yankees won in 2000 despite the season they had and made it as far as they had in 2001 was them over performing and getting by with experience. Plus the D-Backs were filled with veteran All Star players that the team had acquired so it's not like the Yankees lost to a bunch of rookies like they kind of did in 2003.

    • @bulovapsb
      @bulovapsb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2003 WS was 6 games, mostly because of Josh Beckett.

    • @Iamhungey
      @Iamhungey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bulovapsb Though Beckett took an L in Game 3, it was after that blown opportunity in Game 4 where things went downhill.

  • @tomcaruso89
    @tomcaruso89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He had the best command of any pitcher in the history of baseball. Go back and look at his walk totals. His last 2 full seasons he only walked 8 and 9 batters at age 41 & 43. He honestly could've pitched at least another 3 years, maybe more. Absolute joy to watch and is my favorite player of all time.

  • @nacoran
    @nacoran ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And, if you look at his last season, you very much get the sense that he could have easily kept going for several more years as an elite reliever. He had 44 saves and an ERA below his career average.

  • @MrTheIgnit1
    @MrTheIgnit1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guy who usually only throws one inning? Do the math on postseason alone...I grew up watching this demi-god of a closer, can't count how many times I saw him come in in the eighth to throw 2 innings. GOAT

  • @snerdterguson
    @snerdterguson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More people have set foot on the damn moon than scored a run on him in the playoffs. And he had a full season plus worth of playoff appearances.
    He was, with zero legitimate debate, better at his job than any other player has been at theirs (excluding short runs of brilliance no longer than 2-3 years) The word dominant was never more aptly used than it was when used to describe Mo.
    I very much doubt I will ever see a better pitcher than him. Not just closer, but pitcher period. And that's just him in the regular season. He gets exponentially better in the postseason. So, to paraphrase Tim Kurkijan, "in the playoffs, Mariano was much better than the greatest closer in the history of baseball. Which is himself"

  • @DionysusAlS
    @DionysusAlS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's no coincidence that the Yankees started to win championships when he joined the team and haven't won one since he retired.

  • @BKF0
    @BKF0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this all means that we need a Dennis Eckersley video -- you could make one for his career as a player and one for his career as a broadcaster/source of amazing quotes. Fun fact, he coined the term "walk-off" to describe the homer that Kirk Gibson hit off of him...except he was actually referring to the losing pitcher (in that case, himself) "walking off" the mound.

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a Yankees fan and this was my favorite moment of Rivera's career. Not because he lost the World Series, but because he CAME BACK and not matter what, remained consistent and dominant as ever. It was bound to happen at some point, and the Yankees tbh had NO BUSINESS even being in that WS against the Dbacks 12:20

  • @eliasalx8585
    @eliasalx8585 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The most amazing thing about him was how consistent he was, 18 years of dominance.
    Hoffman had a couple of bad years
    Kimbrel was on his way to being the best and then fell off
    I think the only one who compares to him is Wagner and he didn't play as many years as Mariano in the majors

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that's without getting into the postseason.

  • @Nick_Valentine2702
    @Nick_Valentine2702 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. I feel like Rivera went 2 innings a good amount tho

  • @notevenalittle8363
    @notevenalittle8363 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best parts of his dominance was to watch the faces of the batters. They knew what was coming. Could not hit it and would at time look perplexed or angry as if they figured him out. HoF with 100% of the votes. A family man, a wonderful teammate, loves his Creator and his wife. True G.O.A.T.

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw somebody use a WAR comparison for Rivera to other non-reliever players. My immediate thought was that was foolish; on a per-inning basis Mo is the best player in MLB history at run prevention in both the regular and post seasons with anything near his volume of work. You can argue till the cows come home who the best starting pitcher was between Randy Johnson, Cy Young, Nolan Ryan, Pedro Martinez, Sandy Koufax, or any of the other all time greats...but if you want 1-2 innings of work, you pick Mo basically unquestionably. Doesn't matter if it's game 7 of the world series, or opening day, if you want that W and you want a guy you can count on for 3 outs, Mo is the best to ever do it. That's why he was a unanimous hall of famer. The only reason his counting stats are smaller is because he was a reliever.
    Like here's an astounding stat: excluding his 1995 rookie season where he started several games, for his entire career, Mariano Rivera only allowed 285 earned runs across 17 seasons, including postseason. Jordan Lyles has allowed 294 runners since just the 2021 season.

  • @rigafraction1653
    @rigafraction1653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was always stressed during Yankee playoff games.... until I heard Enter Sandman. That's how ridiculous he was. What is now (and for every other team, THE MOST stressful moment, became the 'game over' moment for me. When your team is up a run with the WS on the line... Enter Sandman comes on and instead of worrying or praying, you're sitting back, popping the bottle and celebrating the win because here comes Mo. From a superstitious fan, that says EVERYTHING

  • @LouieOcean2
    @LouieOcean2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He’s simply the best pitcher of all time. The most consistently dominant at least

    • @BoogsMcNoogs
      @BoogsMcNoogs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best ever? No, not really. Maybe if you add the word "reliever" to the second sentence I'll agree but there were starters just as dominant. Walter Johnson, Bob Feller, Greg Maddux just to name a few.

  • @AmplifyNova
    @AmplifyNova ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am literally blessed to have been born in New York and watch him pitch

  • @DavidRay39
    @DavidRay39 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was a great pitcher, no doubt about that. It's because he was so great that I went to bed early, going into the bottom of the 9th inning, Game 7 of the 2001 World Series, because I believed he would dominate my Diamondbacks. Little did I know that he would blow his first save since April of 1997 (before the D-backs had ever played a single regular season game). I didn't know what had happened until the next day. How I wish I had stayed up to watch history being made.

  • @Justmyownopinion5999
    @Justmyownopinion5999 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The cutter was near Randy Johnson slider level good, but thrown for strikes. I watched him warm up in Baltimore once about a week after seeing Troy Percival do the same. (that visitors pen was awesome) The hiss was almost the same between the two of them, but Mo's just wasn't anywhere near straight.

  • @finnhobart9100
    @finnhobart9100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I’m noticing about this video is that Dennis Eckersley deserves more appreciation than many of us may have thought.

  • @iancypes5911
    @iancypes5911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you want to know what kind of a person Mariano Rivera was, he doesn't regret blowing a save in game 7 of the 2001 world series bc it meant a friend of his flew home early from New York instead of attending a potential Yankees victory parade and avoided boarding American Airlines flight 587, which crashed after takeoff into the Rockaways and killed all 260 people onboard, thus Mariano's blown save ended up saving his friend's life

  • @dazed1nyc
    @dazed1nyc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not only did he do it with one pitch, he found the pitch by accident while having a catch in the outfield. My fav story is at the all star game Roy Halladay asked him about it and Mo actually drew on a baseball to show him the finger placement and that's how Halladay learned the cutter and became even better. Mo was fined in Kangaroo court in the Yankee clubhouse for that lol

  • @edvaira6891
    @edvaira6891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to put in a kind word for my hometown Padres’ greatest closer, Trevor Hoffman…yes, Rivera was better, but Hoffman was almost equally dominant for a decade and a half, and he mastered only a single pitch and just pounded it forever!

  • @christopherdunn3094
    @christopherdunn3094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That song DOES nothing even close to slapping.

  • @derick-smith
    @derick-smith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody executed their role more effectively in MLB history, or maybe sports history. I know baseball better than I know other sports but idk how you can be better. As good, not better.

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and what about his 141 innings in the PLAYOFFS!!! HE CLINCHED MULTIPLE WORLD SERIES 3:04

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would take any of Mariano's peak years over Gagne's best ANY DAMN DAY. Especially in October. Period. Rivera was not just a reliver or a closer, he was a SYMBOL for the DOMINANCE of the Yankees during his years. It was intimidation beyond anything a Craig Kimbrell or Gagne could even dream of. 0.70 ERA is the POSTSEASON! END 2:34

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and yet it is not a true one-trick-pony because he did it from 1996-2013 (bullpen) and with the cutter from mid-1997 to 2013. That is something you should be able to adapt to, if it is, in fact, a true one-trick-pony. The real key was the WAY he modified it and commanded the pitch to destroy at bats and BATS themselves 6:48

  • @PSS521
    @PSS521 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Starters need to pace. Relievers go 100% for 1-2 innings. Put degrom in his prime as a closer and he'd destroy records. Reason yankees used Rivera in the pen was because of arm surgery early in career

  • @MikeCee7
    @MikeCee7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s hard to believe that Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, & Willie Mays, did not get as high a percentage as Ty Cobb. 0:06

  • @mattfroeming640
    @mattfroeming640 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hated the Yankees growing up but I'll admit Mariano Rivera was the best closer I've ever seen. Watching him in the post season felt like an adult pitching against little leaguers. Strikeouts, weak groundballs or broken bats, it felt like hitters had no chance.

  • @CompleteZC
    @CompleteZC ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of ridiculous that Griffey jr and some other greats didn’t get 100% HOF votes

  • @trunghuynh9758
    @trunghuynh9758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If he was any better he would be a starter

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine if he had his cutter earlier.

  • @JasonThomasLionHeart
    @JasonThomasLionHeart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is funny when talking about Mo's win totals is that, as a reliever and a guy almost exclusively brought in to save a game and prserve a lead, a win usually meant he gave up the lead but the Yankees took it back lol
    What I always found impressive though were those wins he earned coming in down one in a high leverage situation amd throwing 2+ scoreless while his team scratched back in to the game
    As a Yankee fan, I got so used to Mo that is was automatic and expected for us to win when he was brought into a game, but I didn't appreciate that as much until he was gone. I cried tears of joy when he became the first ever unanimous hall of famer, even though that shoupd have happened so much sooner to so many other deserving candidates. Its a testament to his unparalleled dominance. He will always be a hero of mine and I am grateful now to have watched a master of his craft on my side all of those years

  • @garyjoseph2767
    @garyjoseph2767 ปีที่แล้ว

    U probably think Lebrick is better than Michael Jordan. Do aome research

  • @GuidoLuzzi
    @GuidoLuzzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    greatest pitcher ever. no doubt in my mind that he wouldn't have been able to pitch 6 innings and give up 1-2 runs

  • @ZA1KLONB
    @ZA1KLONB ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd have to say, I don't think Mariano Rivera was better than I think because I grew up throughout his whole career and know how good he was. There's no thinking on how good he was. His last couple years he wasn't so lights out in the playoffs but that's okay

  • @dylanschwager7903
    @dylanschwager7903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jays fan, saying he tore his knee shagging fly balls at 42. Just had to put that out there.

  • @nimrodmcgee1
    @nimrodmcgee1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mariano Rivera even got Chuck Norris out, once.

  • @michaelreed6858
    @michaelreed6858 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do Eric Gange? And maybe Dice-K?

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was NO BAD Mariano season as a closer. NOT ONE

  • @wakkawakkagaming3710
    @wakkawakkagaming3710 ปีที่แล้ว

    He has such a complicated legacy to me because I fuckin hated the 90's-00's Yankees, they were the wet blanket to every upstart franchise or storybook narrative. But goddamn you gotta respect the sandman

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ironically that dynasty started with the Yankees having an upstart storybook season in 1996.

  • @johnreznik3713
    @johnreznik3713 ปีที่แล้ว

    Degrom best in human history haha hyperbole much

  • @TheJustusLeague98
    @TheJustusLeague98 ปีที่แล้ว

    These stats are legit crazy like 0.70 era in the playoffs over like what 100 innings that’s crazy

  • @TheHENpp
    @TheHENpp ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like Dennis Eckersley is underrated,

  • @seanlanglois8620
    @seanlanglois8620 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a Red Sox fan I dreaded this guy I think we got him once in that ACLS game

  • @markanthonyramirez
    @markanthonyramirez ปีที่แล้ว

    I respect deGrom but his stats are over analyzed and he's had a couple really good to great seasons, but it gets tiring people speaking of him like he can compare with Seaver. Jake with all due respect isn't as good as prime Dwight Gooden. Jake has never had to complete what he started.
    deGrom is a product of his era but he's not a HOF. The data is skewed to make him look like he's more than he actually has been.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention the guy came off as a glass cannon.

  • @christopherdeguilio6375
    @christopherdeguilio6375 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no doubt Mo was the best at what he did... there's almost no argument.
    But ... let's not forget that he did it on those Yankees teams and was afforded the luxury of doing so...
    His story might've been slightly less inspiring if he was an overworked reliever in Colorado...

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would apply to anyone pitching in Colorado.

  • @TheLockdownKidNYC
    @TheLockdownKidNYC ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont know the numbers but I'm fairly certain that he had the most ABs against 3-5 hitters too. I remember hearing that in 2013.

  • @comerfordanthony
    @comerfordanthony ปีที่แล้ว

    a name to toss in the mix Trevor Hoffman

  • @elcee3292
    @elcee3292 ปีที่แล้ว

    He has a 5 pitch mix in mlb the show😂

  • @TheLockdownKidNYC
    @TheLockdownKidNYC ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of people don't know this but he was virtually spotless in the 2001 post season with the exception of that 9th inning. Had the Yankees have won that World Series, he may have been MVP based on his dominance.

    • @THESMILINGHARTNELLS
      @THESMILINGHARTNELLS หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, part of the problem was his own error and Brosius not going for the double play!

  • @KFCOrBust
    @KFCOrBust ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up watching mo from day one, I didn't realize how inferior everyone else was until he got hurt the year before his retirement and the rest of the bullpen had to fill in. 😳

  • @WM44.
    @WM44. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yessir