@@ciarandoherty6180 Well, in the beginning it was an easy out since the characters never actually fought in cutscenes aside from just blocking a single attack or something, and any cutscene defeats were down to the player. Then in KH2 there was some fighting against heartless in cutscenes, but the only times anyone is shown to be incompetent is Sora when he's intentionally holding back. Then in BBS we get one big fight, and the heroes are pretty much stomped with only Aqua doing anything remotely effective when she casts Reflega. Then there's DDD at the end, when Mickey and Lea come to the rescue while being completely pathetic, and only Siax and Young Xehanort even doing anything to stop them. Then we get KH3, where Sora is pretty worthless in cutscenes of the Disney worlds, Riku and Mickey are barely better in the Realm of Darkness, Aqua forgets how to use barrier when taking a hit from Vanitas, everyone fails at the Keyblade Graveyard (then are suddenly able to hold their own for no apparent reason) with even Lingering Will goes down fairly easily in Remind, all without anyone showing off even half of what they're capable of in gameplay (and should be several magnitudes stronger than at that).
It's really to bad that they took out multiplayer on the console versions. Watching this has made me forget how much fun multiplayer was in BBS's Mirage Arena with friends. I remember playing multiplayer with a few friends back in High School.
I guess they didn't think it was worth it since relatively few people used it (well, that and the audience not wanting to pay for PS+ for something that's essentially a minor side feature).
@@UltimaSpark50 That wouldn't have stopped local multiplayer. Then again, KH3D got the same multiplayer cut when it came to consoles, so I guess it ain't something worth the effort to port on their perspective.
@@Bobsican To be fair with the 3D, it was basic streetpass stuff and a single minigame. The game didn't really lose anything that people used. Outside of trying to 100% the game, I'm sure people played maybe a single game of flick rush each.
Usually he goes through all the game without taking a single hit, but there are some fights in some games that cause you to take damage in some boss fights and there is nothing he could do about it, so I am not surprised since the multiplayer is really hard
@@phantom_anime BBS is freaking hard when going to the final mix exclusive fights like No Heart and Eraqus in the arena. The DPA you did to them is reduced significantly, regardless of what level you have it at. Shotlock is pretty much debuffed and useless. Advanced commands isn't so doable without taking damage during the attack (for Terra, mostly) since not all of them had the invincible frame when inititating them. It can get to the point of frustration that you can't be picky on how to defeat them
Just imagine this, but it was in the Keyblade Graveyard against one of the Fortellers during the keyblade war, at the end of a game that had been like a combination of KH-BBS, KH-Days, KH3, and FF15-Comrads. The Union game we should have gotten, and hopefully will have while waiting for KH4. Such a game, where you get a completely customizable character down to their fighting stance (Eraqus, Sora, Riku, Terra, Ventus, Aqua, Unlockable Roxas). Keyblades from across all the games, which you forge and put medals into to boost stats and grant abilities, rather than limiting them to strict upgrade lines. Magic which includes all of the major spell lines of previous games, multiple ways to cast them (the variations in KH3, as well as Screen and Boon), and even some new spells such as Geo, (De)Protect, (De)Bravery, (De)Shell, and Faith (the magic buff), as well as limits. Rather than have access to all of them, players choose what spells to unlock with a limited number of elements, allowing personalization of builds and encouraging a well rounded party. Finally, each Union would have it's own set of NPC companions (who would be at least as competent as Comrads companions) for offline, with the ability to unlock the KH characters in the post game.
I don't see how this wasn't implemented in the PS3/PS4 versions as you can still obtain the Group commands there. So.... Uh... If they weren't going to have the MP feature in they should've omitted those commands from the console versions.
iirc the group heals don't count toward healing limits (ie. "you can only use Cure etc. x amount of times") in the arena, so they still have a minor purpose in solo play. And Trinity Limit etc. can still be used just fine as solo attacks, even if they're completely impractical. They _did_ remove the Taunt and Group Esuna commands from the console versions since those are pointless and/or redundant in solo play.
@@UltimaSpark50 also in the rare case you have a npc helping you out (such as when mickey fights along side you or prince phillip) i believe group cure DOES work on them
Soul Eater he didn't get buffed in the ports though. He actually got nerfed. In order to make this fight actually solo-able in the ports (due to the lack of multiplayer), they drastically increased the amount of damage players can do to him. In order to compensate for this they had to increase his health pool to counter-balance the increased DPS players would be doing.
@@Manavine Not exactly. As far as I understand it, No Heart took waaaaaaaaaaaay less damage in the original game, even when facing against two players. He's still ultimately a shorter fight, if I'm not mistaken, in the HD ports because of how much damage you actually do to him per attack.
Oof that was so nerve-wracking. I knew you wouldn't biff it (otherwise you either wouldn't have uploaded this, or the title would say something about it), but that's an intense fight, even with two other people.
Oh, So It Means It WORKS, Even With A Emulator, Huh??? WELL, I Barely Can't Wait To Play This Game Mode Of Kingdom Hearts Online! Now I Just Need To Find Someway Or Somehow To Make It Work On MY Emulator, So I Can Play it and Try it Myself!
Yup It Was On The PSP Version But Was Removed From The Console Ports, Originally The Cape That Appears On Terra's Back When Defeating Terranort Wasn't Added On The PsP Cause It Would Cause The Game To Lag But In The Console Versions, The Cape Was Added And Multiplayer Was Removed But Im Sure There Was More Than That Though
i stillf eel like a mh styled kh game would be great where you accept quest and do them whit friends online aginst bosses like this or cpt hook the whale and so on just liek the arena itself in bbs
@@dawnstar9557 I ended up looking into it after I made the comment. Yeah Emulators are awesome, I use the most basic ones but they’re fun. MUGEN is awesome!
I hate it when people cherry pick the HD ports as a means to say that No Heart is poorly designed, because you were never originally intended to do this fight solo. The only reason it has any "flaws" in the HD ports is due to the lack of multiplayer; in order to account for that change they only had the time to change No Heart's stats (via increasing the amount of damage players due to him, and thus increasing his health pool to compensate for the increased damage). If you actually understand that this boss was meant to be taken on by multiple people and not meant to be taken on alone, this is a pretty fair and well designed fight. Makes it an even bigger shame that the ports lacked the multiplayer functionality of the Mirage Arena.
I realise that there’s only so much they could have done, but it doesn’t really make it any less annoying to fight... And even if you accept that it was intended to be done multiplayer, it’s still a big slap in the face for people who didn’t have access to multiplayer on the original PSP version. Like, they should have at least considered that some people might end up having to do it alone.
Minishroom123 ..? What? The PSP had free multiplayer though. There's literally no way that people wouldn't have been able to access it. Same with the ps3.
Boyishdude From what I can tell, you needed a PS3 as well in order to actually play online multiplayer on the PSP (I might be wrong but this was what I’ve read online). But I have never owned a PS3 (skipped straight to 4) and I never knew anyone around me that I could play local multiplayer with, sooooooo...
This fight is literally "Kingdom Hearts - Birth By Sleep: How It Should've Ended".
Brooo Im saying!
Where would vanitas fit in
@@fernandostrongbottom2644hes the chair
This is literally how Terra, Ven and Aqua should fight Master Xehanort altogether as one.
Always annoyed me how keyblade wielders have become worse in cutscenes with each passing game.
@@vadandrumist1670 How so?
@@ciarandoherty6180 Well, in the beginning it was an easy out since the characters never actually fought in cutscenes aside from just blocking a single attack or something, and any cutscene defeats were down to the player. Then in KH2 there was some fighting against heartless in cutscenes, but the only times anyone is shown to be incompetent is Sora when he's intentionally holding back. Then in BBS we get one big fight, and the heroes are pretty much stomped with only Aqua doing anything remotely effective when she casts Reflega. Then there's DDD at the end, when Mickey and Lea come to the rescue while being completely pathetic, and only Siax and Young Xehanort even doing anything to stop them.
Then we get KH3, where Sora is pretty worthless in cutscenes of the Disney worlds, Riku and Mickey are barely better in the Realm of Darkness, Aqua forgets how to use barrier when taking a hit from Vanitas, everyone fails at the Keyblade Graveyard (then are suddenly able to hold their own for no apparent reason) with even Lingering Will goes down fairly easily in Remind, all without anyone showing off even half of what they're capable of in gameplay (and should be several magnitudes stronger than at that).
@@vadandrumist1670 I don't know, Coded cinematics were pretty legit with short fight scenes.
@Vadan Drumist KH3 honestly hurt a lot when it came to this. Everyone just kinda stood around in the Keyblade Graveyard when Ventus got yeeted.
It's really to bad that they took out multiplayer on the console versions. Watching this has made me forget how much fun multiplayer was in BBS's Mirage Arena with friends. I remember playing multiplayer with a few friends back in High School.
You can still do it over PPSSPP. Fact there's even a superboss mod you can get.
@@muigokublack6487how?
So I guess this is why he was so hard to solo. It was supposed to be a team effort.
The multiplayer co-op was a missed opportunity
Kh3 was a waste of online potential
Aienzo what are you talking about? OP is obviously referring to the lack of multiplayer for BBS in the console ports.
@@boyishdude1234 they could do something like that in kh3, thats what im talking about
Man this looks so fun, I really hope they implement more stuff like this for future kh games
Makes you wonder why they couldn't implement this on the Ps3/Ps4..
I guess they didn't think it was worth it since relatively few people used it (well, that and the audience not wanting to pay for PS+ for something that's essentially a minor side feature).
Lazy Square is lazy. Even the PS3 port of MGS Peace Walker had online multiplayer.
@@UltimaSpark50 That wouldn't have stopped local multiplayer.
Then again, KH3D got the same multiplayer cut when it came to consoles, so I guess it ain't something worth the effort to port on their perspective.
@@Bobsican To be fair with the 3D, it was basic streetpass stuff and a single minigame. The game didn't really lose anything that people used. Outside of trying to 100% the game, I'm sure people played maybe a single game of flick rush each.
Its not that they couldn’t, its more like they didn’t care to.
i accidentally turned my volume to 100 and all I could hear was *"You're done! You're done! Hyah! Huh Hyah!"*
🤣
Damm. Mines was at 15 and it felt it still was loud. I betcha your ear drums are done. Lol
damn these guys already have kingdom hearts 5
The Online Mode that's missing and it's amazing
I do so miss the multiplayer for this game
Yo 2:20 was actually a pretty cool looking sequence!
Now this is one blast from the past
This is going to be GOOD!
Also cool Terra icon
...am I the only one wondering why Cyber only has one heal equipped?
Usually he goes through all the game without taking a single hit, but there are some fights in some games that cause you to take damage in some boss fights and there is nothing he could do about it, so I am not surprised since the multiplayer is really hard
@@phantom_anime BBS is freaking hard when going to the final mix exclusive fights like No Heart and Eraqus in the arena. The DPA you did to them is reduced significantly, regardless of what level you have it at. Shotlock is pretty much debuffed and useless. Advanced commands isn't so doable without taking damage during the attack (for Terra, mostly) since not all of them had the invincible frame when inititating them. It can get to the point of frustration that you can't be picky on how to defeat them
PSP BBS has the most PS3 sound effects I've ever heard
Birth by sleep online is back. So good to see it.
Omg that was perfect 2:29
Looking forward to the day that the mad lads at Nexusmods will make a BBS multiplayer mod for PC!
Just imagine this, but it was in the Keyblade Graveyard against one of the Fortellers during the keyblade war, at the end of a game that had been like a combination of KH-BBS, KH-Days, KH3, and FF15-Comrads. The Union game we should have gotten, and hopefully will have while waiting for KH4.
Such a game, where you get a completely customizable character down to their fighting stance (Eraqus, Sora, Riku, Terra, Ventus, Aqua, Unlockable Roxas). Keyblades from across all the games, which you forge and put medals into to boost stats and grant abilities, rather than limiting them to strict upgrade lines. Magic which includes all of the major spell lines of previous games, multiple ways to cast them (the variations in KH3, as well as Screen and Boon), and even some new spells such as Geo, (De)Protect, (De)Bravery, (De)Shell, and Faith (the magic buff), as well as limits. Rather than have access to all of them, players choose what spells to unlock with a limited number of elements, allowing personalization of builds and encouraging a well rounded party. Finally, each Union would have it's own set of NPC companions (who would be at least as competent as Comrads companions) for offline, with the ability to unlock the KH characters in the post game.
Please get a job at SE.
@@koenvanbree7351SE would never hire this man, he makes to much sense! Anything KH related must be over convoluted
@@scarecrow0774Forget that, SE still on that DEI/ NFT garbage
I don't see how this wasn't implemented in the PS3/PS4 versions as you can still obtain the Group commands there. So.... Uh... If they weren't going to have the MP feature in they should've omitted those commands from the console versions.
iirc the group heals don't count toward healing limits (ie. "you can only use Cure etc. x amount of times") in the arena, so they still have a minor purpose in solo play. And Trinity Limit etc. can still be used just fine as solo attacks, even if they're completely impractical.
They _did_ remove the Taunt and Group Esuna commands from the console versions since those are pointless and/or redundant in solo play.
@@UltimaSpark50 also in the rare case you have a npc helping you out (such as when mickey fights along side you or prince phillip) i believe group cure DOES work on them
It's ridiculous how No Heart got buffed in the PS3/PS4 version.
Soul Eater he didn't get buffed in the ports though.
He actually got nerfed. In order to make this fight actually solo-able in the ports (due to the lack of multiplayer), they drastically increased the amount of damage players can do to him. In order to compensate for this they had to increase his health pool to counter-balance the increased DPS players would be doing.
@@boyishdude1234 So they... buffed damage just to buff his health pool, leading us RIGHT back where we started?
@@Manavine Not exactly. As far as I understand it, No Heart took waaaaaaaaaaaay less damage in the original game, even when facing against two players. He's still ultimately a shorter fight, if I'm not mistaken, in the HD ports because of how much damage you actually do to him per attack.
You're a chad for playing terra
The Game is the GOAT and lives on! 😎
Oof that was so nerve-wracking. I knew you wouldn't biff it (otherwise you either wouldn't have uploaded this, or the title would say something about it), but that's an intense fight, even with two other people.
Lol forgot you could fight this boss in multiplayer!
Aw yes
What Throne Xemnas should have been
Damn he looks more manageable on a multiplayer 😢
Oh, So It Means It WORKS, Even With A Emulator, Huh??? WELL, I Barely Can't Wait To Play This Game Mode Of Kingdom Hearts Online! Now I Just Need To Find Someway Or Somehow To Make It Work On MY Emulator, So I Can Play it and Try it Myself!
Umm there is this tutorial video for it so your in luck
I wanna play this with people so bad how did u do it
Is this really an online co-op?! If so, I never knew they had that!!
Yup It Was On The PSP Version But Was Removed From The Console Ports, Originally The Cape That Appears On Terra's Back When Defeating Terranort Wasn't Added On The PsP Cause It Would Cause The Game To Lag But In The Console Versions, The Cape Was Added And Multiplayer Was Removed But Im Sure There Was More Than That Though
@@Alpha-0014 thanks for the explanation bro
Cool 😎
YOU'RE DONE
Say goodbye
i stillf eel like a mh styled kh game would be great where you accept quest and do them whit friends online aginst bosses like this or cpt hook the whale and so on just liek the arena itself in bbs
How do I get this up n working?
How do I get this and how do I play it with other people
I already got my network running
Eeey glad you ve play it too online, were you using a vpn or myneighborsushicat.com?
So how’s the delay
WHEN IS LEVEL 1 LOL
Please!
So online still works...?🤔
What? What’s PPSSPP and How is this possible!
It's a PSP Emulator, I'm surprised you could do online stuff with Emulators like Smash Bros Melee Online against actual people.
@@dawnstar9557 I ended up looking into it after I made the comment. Yeah Emulators are awesome, I use the most basic ones but they’re fun. MUGEN is awesome!
The secret bosses are bullshit on the ps4 because there is no online and doing it by yourself is impossible on critical
Impossible is just another word for bet in kh community
I hate it when people cherry pick the HD ports as a means to say that No Heart is poorly designed, because you were never originally intended to do this fight solo. The only reason it has any "flaws" in the HD ports is due to the lack of multiplayer; in order to account for that change they only had the time to change No Heart's stats (via increasing the amount of damage players due to him, and thus increasing his health pool to compensate for the increased damage).
If you actually understand that this boss was meant to be taken on by multiple people and not meant to be taken on alone, this is a pretty fair and well designed fight. Makes it an even bigger shame that the ports lacked the multiplayer functionality of the Mirage Arena.
I realise that there’s only so much they could have done, but it doesn’t really make it any less annoying to fight...
And even if you accept that it was intended to be done multiplayer, it’s still a big slap in the face for people who didn’t have access to multiplayer on the original PSP version. Like, they should have at least considered that some people might end up having to do it alone.
Minishroom123 ..? What?
The PSP had free multiplayer though. There's literally no way that people wouldn't have been able to access it. Same with the ps3.
Boyishdude From what I can tell, you needed a PS3 as well in order to actually play online multiplayer on the PSP (I might be wrong but this was what I’ve read online). But I have never owned a PS3 (skipped straight to 4) and I never knew anyone around me that I could play local multiplayer with, sooooooo...
Minishroom123 but BBS multiplayer wasn't only local multiplayer? Not even 358's Mission Mode was exclusively LAN multiplayer.
Boyishdude Like I said, I’m pretty sure online required a PS3 and AD HOC, whatever that was?