In this video, Professor Thorsby gives a conceptual tour of Foucault's essay on "Governmentality" and the first chapter of Discipline and Punish, 'The Body of the Condemned'
Foucault has been very successful in cutting and opening up the living body of the power structure eg Govt, being the heart of any system and letting us the citizens to look, understand and know our place in it, as subjects our positions is quite compromised and it is suffocating at times to know so much control has been exercised without us being conscious about it. Thank you for unpacking.
This is a fantastic grounding, thank you for sharing your presentation and deck. Just one minor thing- please consider making your deck so your content isn't obscured by you on cam (which is actually good to have) :)
You are an amazing Professor. Anyone that can break down Foucault the way you do is genius. You have such a cool laid back style, yet you make it very interesting as well. Great work. #Genius #Geniusiscommon www.geniusiscommon.com
Have you read the essay by Deleuze on Societies of Control? He argues it is a misreading to say we live in a disciplinary society, we, he argues, live in a biopolitical society of control
What I find interesting is not so much power, not so much its nature, causes and distribution but our individual motives for wanting to understand it. I was attracted to Foucalt's concern with the nature of subjectivity but was disappointed that though he seems to be right on track that this is where we need to look he seems to still not "go there" so to speak. The question "what is subjectivity" is what I believe is the question we really are all asking. Foucalt points there but then seems to back off.
It took him about two sentences to use the word 'problematic'. Everything is problematic to the postmodern identitarian Left, except their own brazen power grabs. I also see that you forgot to mention that he was a one-time supporter of Stalin, a later supporter of Mao, a huge fanboy of the sadistic novels of the Marquis De Sade and a child of incredible wealth and privilege who drove a Jaguar...while supporting Mao. His political affiliations are largely totalitarian and, as a practitioner of S&M, a power junkie. Nothing exists except power for Foucault, which is interesting considering his preference for violent S&M pleasures.
@ucokalpigari3933 what does the phrase: he was a one-time supporter of Stalin - what does it even mean? I am a supporter of Stalin when he defended Bulgakov's novel of Master and Margarita and called him a genius. Have you practiced bdsm seriously or a Porn hub lover finding your epistemology via dilettante hearsay??
@@robford3211 I mean it is true Foucault was born to immense wealth. He also had a predilection for BDSM, how that relates to authoritarianism isn't really clear. The legacy that Foucault left in modern academia is another issue, one that I think has been to its detriment. Most people in academia who worship Foucault also happen to be pricks.
Wonderful introduction to Foucault! This was quite enlightening and enjoyable. I'm curious if Foucault was inspired to these ideas by the events in the War, or if he always had a deeper understanding of the world before that...
Like ur topics.. Appreciate ur work.. Thanks These topics very interesting.. Hospitals and control is a big one.. If u a listener Id like to speak to u.. The "body" is a page of text.. Im sure u understand
Very nice presentation.. I enjoyed listening to it.. There is a large difference between Usa and European states where European states are still dominated by "Ethnos" (as long is the "ethnos" is untouched - they are liberal and the civil society can flourish) and they will stay like this...(with all the limits and flaws) It is a certain advantage for Usa to have something else behind the screen but it can be disastrous as well if the binding force behind the usa becomes something different then self proclaimed idology... (like it was many times in the past..)...
What is this software? The notes are very good and highly organized. Please anybody just tell me the name in which Mr Thorsby has described his ideas, with the help of these images and maps.
Hi Professor Thorsby- thank you for the interesting lecture on Foucault and the art of governing (which is what I am trying to get my head around). I was wondering where you got the helpful flowchart on governmental continuity from (around 59:00)? I would like to adapt it, but would need a reference. Thank you in advance. Simon
In pursuing Foucault's line of inquiry this video fails shoer to provide a fundamental definition, which is "power". Without that, Foucault explanations are theological explanations that are tantamount to say that the world is managed by the Divine Providence, and everything must reflect a fundamental commitment to unravel the work of the divine providence. Despite what this professor says, Foucault offers no interesting analysis of society, it is a marginal one, and most of the time historically groundless.
Darth Erebus, Diane was speaking directly to what was stated by the person in the TH-cam video pertaining to unusual punishment. So why are you asking this question? It seems that you are trying to distract away from the point of the question, which has always been the problem, as it it pertains to the US acknowledging the impact of slavery.
Mark ... i wonder, if in general Foucault can proof that some essential part of our life are only social constructed overtime, why in detail he describe that only how to do is changing ? that's mean he believe the signified still fix there with us ? ... by that he is never a post structural
To actually equate being flayed, drawn and quartered, to having doctors, teachers and time tables... Only the sincerest of pessimists could ever bother to make that conclusion.
@@matthewfrazier9254 Foucault equated them. He thought that it was all just control. Foucault never seem to get over his animus against psychologists and psychiatrists after the first of several suicide attempts.
Hi Mark, thanks for this video. I had one question though, you say the role of government is to do what's best for the country's economy, but surely it also has a role in cultural, environmental, spiritual spheres? For instance legalising gay marriage has a small effect on the economy, and is probably better understood outside the economic realm? Or passing environmental protection laws might damage the economy. And even laws made by government to ostensibly affect the country's economy, are often made based on moral/political ideology rather than that is 'best' for the economy? How does that fit in?
It isn't so much towards the economy but instead to make the population more productive. This productivity can be seen in economics but also manifested in other ways like overall happiness of the population.
Foucault has been very successful in cutting and opening up the living body of the power structure eg Govt, being the heart of any system and letting us the citizens to look, understand and know our place in it, as subjects our positions is quite compromised and it is suffocating at times to know so much control has been exercised without us being conscious about it. Thank you for unpacking.
This is a fantastic grounding, thank you for sharing your presentation and deck. Just one minor thing- please consider making your deck so your content isn't obscured by you on cam (which is actually good to have) :)
You are an amazing Professor. Anyone that can break down Foucault the way you do is genius. You have such a cool laid back style, yet you make it very interesting as well. Great work. #Genius #Geniusiscommon www.geniusiscommon.com
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Can you also give me the phonetics of “pedantic”?
This is excellent. You should include links to your Prezi in the description.
Governmentality 49m
Have you read the essay by Deleuze on Societies of Control? He argues it is a misreading to say we live in a disciplinary society, we, he argues, live in a biopolitical society of control
+Deleuzeshammerflow No, but I certainly will. Thanks for posting
Cool, it's a quick read and fairly lucid by Deleuze standards, I hope you enjoy it.
What I find interesting is not so much power, not so much its nature, causes and distribution but our individual motives for wanting to understand it. I was attracted to Foucalt's concern with the nature of subjectivity but was disappointed that though he seems to be right on track that this is where we need to look he seems to still not "go there" so to speak. The question "what is subjectivity" is what I believe is the question we really are all asking. Foucalt points there but then seems to back off.
Deleuze doesn't say disciplinary society is a misreading, he has it has been replaced by a society of control
It took him about two sentences to use the word 'problematic'. Everything is problematic to the postmodern identitarian Left, except their own brazen power grabs. I also see that you forgot to mention that he was a one-time supporter of Stalin, a later supporter of Mao, a huge fanboy of the sadistic novels of the Marquis De Sade and a child of incredible wealth and privilege who drove a Jaguar...while supporting Mao. His political affiliations are largely totalitarian and, as a practitioner of S&M, a power junkie. Nothing exists except power for Foucault, which is interesting considering his preference for violent S&M pleasures.
@ucokalpigari3933 what does the phrase: he was a one-time supporter of Stalin - what does it even mean? I am a supporter of Stalin when he defended Bulgakov's novel of Master and Margarita and called him a genius. Have you practiced bdsm seriously or a Porn hub lover finding your epistemology via dilettante hearsay??
@@robford3211 I mean it is true Foucault was born to immense wealth. He also had a predilection for BDSM, how that relates to authoritarianism isn't really clear. The legacy that Foucault left in modern academia is another issue, one that I think has been to its detriment. Most people in academia who worship Foucault also happen to be pricks.
Antonio Gramsci is much more coherent on the relationship between power and ideology
Wonderful introduction to Foucault! This was quite enlightening and enjoyable. I'm curious if Foucault was inspired to these ideas by the events in the War, or if he always had a deeper understanding of the world before that...
Hey Mark any possibility for you to make a video to introduce structuration theory by Giddens?
Sunny plz cover structuration
I mean mark plz do video on structuration
Thank you, it's very helpful, I'm a art history student and currently work out critic theory. i like your video.
This is a brilliant introduction to Foucault's ideas. Many thanks for a great presentation.
I want English subtitles pls TT
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Like ur topics..
Appreciate ur work..
Thanks
These topics very interesting.. Hospitals and control is a big one..
If u a listener Id like to speak to u..
The "body" is a page of text.. Im sure u understand
Thanks for posting
Anyone explain the history of sexuality by michel foucault........it's very difficult to understand in english
Sir great...i appreciate.... knowledge should remain available for every one
FYI, the title of the book is not "Discipline and Punishment" but it is "Discipline and Punish"!!!
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Thank you so much Prof. Thorsby for the time and effort you have put into simplifying the complexity of Foucault. Best wishes.
Thank you! Foucault was an incredible philosopher.
Very nice presentation.. I enjoyed listening to it..
There is a large difference between Usa and European states where European states are still dominated by "Ethnos" (as long is the "ethnos" is untouched - they are liberal and the civil society can flourish) and they will stay like this...(with all the limits and flaws)
It is a certain advantage for Usa to have something else behind the screen but it can be disastrous as well if the binding force behind the usa becomes something different then self proclaimed idology... (like it was many times in the past..)...
What is this software? The notes are very good and highly organized. Please anybody just tell me the name in which Mr Thorsby has described his ideas, with the help of these images and maps.
Whuch is the book he speaks about , the one of the execution on the church of paris
Discipline and Punish
Excellent presentation, Thank you for your service.
The inevitable first chapter of Discipline and Punish...
Discipline and Punish, not Discipline and Punishment.
shut up
***** I stand punish.
Hi Professor Thorsby- thank you for the interesting lecture on Foucault and the art of governing (which is what I am trying to get my head around). I was wondering where you got the helpful flowchart on governmental continuity from (around 59:00)? I would like to adapt it, but would need a reference. Thank you in advance. Simon
Thank you for an amazing lecture 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
16:10 I have always wanted to live in the past... that prision punishment scene... has changed my mind
Was not expecting my mans to have style like he did in that first picture.
Foucault.. Systems & their logisms..
Language as a means to shape new ways..
wich aren't hard structured systems..
?
how to speak for 1h17m and say nothing.
thanks
I would listen you talk in depth of any topic
Great content dude. Thank you
Thank you very much!
1:07:15
Reagan started subsidies in the 70's? Haha, what?!
Brilliant, thank you.
What presentation software is used?
Adam Smith prezi
In pursuing Foucault's line of inquiry this video fails shoer to provide a fundamental definition, which is "power". Without that, Foucault explanations are theological explanations that are tantamount to say that the world is managed by the Divine Providence, and everything must reflect a fundamental commitment to unravel the work of the divine providence. Despite what this professor says, Foucault offers no interesting analysis of society, it is a marginal one, and most of the time historically groundless.
When you talk about unusual punishment in the United States, you should mention slavery
I don't think the institution of slavery was generally views as a form of punishment.
Diane Martin Slavery wasn't isolated to the US. Are you suggesting it was?
Darth Erebus, Diane was speaking directly to what was stated by the person in the TH-cam video pertaining to unusual punishment. So why are you asking this question? It seems that you are trying to distract away from the point of the question, which has always been the problem, as it it pertains to the US acknowledging the impact of slavery.
this might be about the Prison System using unpaid labor guys... chill
You sound drunk mate.
Paul Bloor not really
Mark ... i wonder, if in general Foucault can proof that some essential part of our life are only social constructed overtime, why in detail he describe that only how to do is changing ? that's mean he believe the signified still fix there with us ? ... by that he is never a post structural
Just wondered whether you would say that he has a theory of power, if so how would you briefly summarise it? Thanks!
His voice is very very annoying, but I'm trying to listen to entire presentation
To actually equate being flayed, drawn and quartered, to having doctors, teachers and time tables... Only the sincerest of pessimists could ever bother to make that conclusion.
Jessie Je who’s equating ?
@@matthewfrazier9254 Foucault equated them. He thought that it was all just control. Foucault never seem to get over his animus against psychologists and psychiatrists after the first of several suicide attempts.
Foucault. The Captain Obvious of philosophy.
Sort yourself out
Hi Mark, thanks for this video. I had one question though, you say the role of government is to do what's best for the country's economy, but surely it also has a role in cultural, environmental, spiritual spheres? For instance legalising gay marriage has a small effect on the economy, and is probably better understood outside the economic realm? Or passing environmental protection laws might damage the economy. And even laws made by government to ostensibly affect the country's economy, are often made based on moral/political ideology rather than that is 'best' for the economy? How does that fit in?
It isn't so much towards the economy but instead to make the population more productive. This productivity can be seen in economics but also manifested in other ways like overall happiness of the population.
Hard to concentrate with so many "um"s in this lecture.
Big big thank you Mark. Great video, helped a lot :-)