"No Quarter!" - The Border War Between Kansas and Missouri
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In a conflict that staged over ten thousand fights, Virginia led as a theater of war. The Volunteer State of Tennessee, second. What surprises many is that the third most active theater in the American Civil War was the border state of Missouri, a slave-holding state that remained within the Union.
There, the curtain for violence rose long before Confederate forces open-fired on Fort Sumter. Indeed, on any night from 1855 until the summer of 1865, an attack on any town or settlement in Missouri or across the border in Kansas could strike like a bolt of lightning from a clear blue sky. In both states, lingering ill will and vicious fighting erased the line between civilian and soldier, armed violence with Old Testament vengeance and fury. In short, the worst guerilla war in American history.
And now, the uncivil border war between Kansas and Missouri.
#civilwar #civilwarhistory #borderwars
Narrated by Fred Kiger
Produced by Dan Irving
Published by Third Wheel Media
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Some Characters Mentioned In This Episode:
Charles "Doc" Jennison
James Henry Lane
James Montgomery
William Clarke Quantrill
Frank James
Thomas Ewing, Jr.
William "Bloody Bill" Anderson
Excellent episode. As someone that grew up in rural Greene County of Southern Missouri, I can testify to the truth that feelings still run deep about what happened those 160 years past.
Same in Kansas
@@hkiller57 Yeah definitely there are 2 they didn't want to give up their so-called property. It sucks you have to do your own work huh. And just so you know the majority of the country knows that you people that live in those places would turn back the clock in a heartbeat if you could. And you confederate dummies did more damage to your own states and towns and cities than the northern soldiers did. But nice try though.
I feel you're view point iam from independence Missouri hear in Jackson county
I'm from the east. Very interested to hear more. Are the families (and family names involved) still alive and well today?
@@tylershannon6593 I would imagine so. Almost everyone in southwestern and eastern Missouri claims to be a relative or descendent of Jessy & Frank James 🤨 or someone involved in the Border War. My great-grandfather was a young teenager during the war, so did not participate, but [supposedly] was on the Springfield Square the day Bill Hickock shot Davis Tutt. He did not see it, but heard the shot & turned around to see the aftermath. Who knows ??? What's that old line : Never let the truth get in the way of a good story 😁
I live in NE Kansas and this period is definitely something that is still a touchy issue. I’ve seen a lot of bumper stickers and social media garbage reveling in the burning of Lawrence. I have many family in central Missouri and they used to constantly make jokes about burning Lawrence down because of a basketball game. Looking through the comments here and seeing it first hand, it seems people either don’t care about what happened, or, want it to happen again. They think that either John Brown or William Quantrill was the hero but there were no heroes. They were all the villains. The best you can do educate yourself, cause the bumper slogan people sure as hell ain’t.
I really appreciate all of your hard work and dedication. Your efforts are not in vain.
Exceptional storytelling. I grew up east of Ocheltree, between Spring Hill and the former site of Aubry, Kansas. Spent summers in the Missouri Ozarks, with kin on both sides of the border. Many raised in and around that Burnt District still bear a haunted, vaguely uneasy sense of identity, though few who remain close to home seem aware of it. Generational trauma is a real thing.
You're talking about the border between Kansas and Missouri like it's Germany and France. What rock did you live under ? And I love that you people enjoy hearing these romanticized fictional stories of Americans killing other Americans so that they get on another person
Do you even know who the person is in the photo that you use on your own channel ? I got a sneaking suspicion you don't
Just imagine the generational trauma of slavery.
May we never forget to study and learn from our history. I wish more would. Thank you, take care.
@40:57 I can see it now....
"Did you see Jonah's house with the white X ? Surely he's marked for death "
Three blocks away. "What are you doing with that white paint and brush ,son?" An old man says
Young boy. "Just marking my paper route sir."
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah." ―Grampa Simpson
Growing up in osawatomie I've heard a lot of the stories but hearing the Missouri side was something I hadn't heard to much of as a kid.
Michael Feldman authored the book “ Inside War: the Guerrilla Conflict in Missouri during the American Civil War”. Nonfiction, highly researched. God-awful bloody murder, arson, and near genocidal guerrilla warfare that devastated Missouri. Great battles between armies in the Eastern States, but it was neighbor versus neighbor, town versus town during that terrible time. A must read for CW historians AND anyone contemplating CW these days!
Michael Fellman author.
How is it that juden writes a book about christians
When "survival lying" was a reality.
You overlooked the fact that Missouri citizens would vote in Kansas elections. When it was enforced that you had to own land to vote. Men from Missouri would buy an acre of land then subdivide it between 20 or more men. Also, unless I missed it you didn't cover the attack on Lawrence. Part of the whole reason KU takes games so seriously. Then Mizzou went to the SEC. My family didn't arrive to Kansas until the last 1890s. But ask a Texan, I'm a Yankee. No, my family was too busy trying not to die in Germany and Russia.
You have a problem with some people exploiting the laws to vote, but you have no problem with rich New England bankers paying families to move 6 states away just so they could vote and run the school and newspaper in lawrence, kansas? Gimme a break...
@@joshua511 yes. More because 20 to 1 vote in a free state by men in a slave state was the issue. As far as Lawrence schools and newspapers, I didn't live there.
Most of the men that committed those atrocities were raised in loving homes, with Christian values.
Imagine how quickly a civil war would devolve to depravity in todays world, with many raised like animals, no shame, no honor, no respect for human life, even their own.
Terrifying.
You raise a grim matter, and your conclusion is hard to argue with.
Those bad characteristics you mentioned are prevalent in millennials (90 percent) today.🤬😤😡
@MarvMattison I'm a millenial
Grew up in Grain Valley in the 90’s, mom from Washburn. Family fought for the north. Great story telling.
Great video I love hearing the history of my home state. I’m curious if you would ever make videos like this about the revolutionary war?
Greetings from Central Kansas. Loved the video!
For anoyone that would like to see a really good movie about this I HIGHLY recommend Ang Lee's excellent 2000 film "Ride With The Devil" It is the story of a small group of Missouri Bushwackers. And it culminates in a stunning recreation of Quantrill's Raid on Lawrence Kansas
All of these are great. If the economy were better I would join but I do enjoy the content very much, you deserve me to join
Excellent.
The USA Constitution said 3/4 (75%) of the states needed for any Amendment (Change) of the Constitution. So I understood why the abolutionist William Lloyd Garrison burned the Constitution on the street of Boston. Regular polititian as the leaders of the Republican party or Lincoln could not say anything about abolishing the slavery system in the USA. (I do not understand why the not lost cause historians avoid this.) Only possibilty was one after one states alone would have abolished the slavery system. New York, New Jersey, New England had made this earlier. For example Delaware had 1.6% slave population so Dalaware could have decide on the abolution alone about 1870 but the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT or THE CONGRESS could not have abolished slavery system in the whole USA, because USA consisted of 15 slavery system states and 17 free states in 1855 at the begining of the Kansas Precivil War time. This was 53.2% instead of the 75%. The Southern states wanted the eternal slavery system forever, so the South wanted NEWER SLAVERY SYSTEM STATES, because one and next low % slavery populated would abolish the slavery system to remain enogh slavery system states to avoid the 75% free states possibility.
BTW the fireating proslavery southerners were dreaming about a slavery system empire round the Gulf of Mexico (Knight of the Golden Circle)! Increasing of the free states number instilled fear in the southerners the slavery system would been abolished in the XXth Century!
In January of 1865 the Congress could say the 11 Confederate states had done rebellion against the USA so the 11 Confederate states had lost their right to veto. From the 5 Border states West Virginia started step by step abolution in its constitution in 1863. So the 84% free states were in January of 1865. The history works very strange way, the Kansas Precivil war, JOHN BROWN raid, Lincoln's election victory and about 750 000 dead needed to abolish the slavery system.
Yeah, guess you can understand why US federal troops burned alive 100's of blacks in the NYC draft riots as well. Burned out, 1000's, yes? And guess you can understand why Lincoln could've freed any slave in the north but, elected not to do so, yes?
Guess you just gotta hang your hat on some lost cause regurgitated bs 'cause that's all you really have...that, and your perpetual emotional response, of course.
Your heroes; homicidal, genocidal avowed racist. Nothing to see here crusader,...move along.
Josey Wales Never surrendered.! He created the Missouri Boat Ride.! 🤔
I went to lawrence kansas i had chills
John brown sounds like a sociopathic serial killer
Was, is and always will be.
Yes he was a sociopathic extreamist. And yes a serial killer. But some hold him up as some kind of a hero. Reality is...he was not.
Actually William Sherman was closer to a psychopath than John Brown by quite a bit.
@ocean88eagle9 He was, certified. Killed plenty of Native Americans as well; women, children, whole nine yards.
@@ocean88eagle9I disagree. He did not look forward to the beginning of the war. He knew that “war was hell.” He knew that for as long as the Confederacy felt that they had even a sliver of hope, they would continue to fight for what he saw as a hopeless cause. He knew that as long as fighting continued, people would die. So he slashed an burned his way through Georgia to take away all hope. His tactic was successful, ugly as it was.
Good old John Brown, The lunatic that made up the opposite side of the William Quantrill coin.
John Brown, he was overzealous...he is my great-great uncle, mom never claimed as she was a southern lady, but we had to pull info. I've been to harpers ferry and to osawatomie where the raid was planned. I do not condone his actions, but as an adult I have tried to understand him by going to these historical places.
@@sondrasmith-rr4mw As a purveyor of local history, I appreciate you not taking a staunch "he was a savior" type of view. I struggle to feel any support for him, but the cause around him was just. Much like many other larger than life figures in the border states at the time. He is a deeply flawed character. One that I believe history has smiled a little too fondly on. I have sat on the fence line of the hill bearing his name a wondered what I would have done in his time though.
i wouldn't call 2 crazy terrorists opposites...
The state of kansas is the joke of the lower forty eight states, and always will. kansas has been the butt of jokes from the days of Barney Miller, the Governor of New York, and the stand up comedian, Ron White. With no accomplishments of their own, kansas continues to encroach into Kansas City, Missouri to gain relevance. The kansas minor league baseball team changed their name from the T-Bones to the old Kansas City, Missouri Monarchs of the former Negro Leagues. johnson & wyanodtte counties in kansas got UMKC to drop the UM from their athletic uniforms, and now, kansas is attempting to lure the Kansas City Chiefs to move from Jackson County, Missouri to the Legend Landfill in WEST kansas city, kansas.
Rock chalk Jayhawk
1. The Kansas Precivil War brought a lot of hate between the Little Dixie (Missoury proslavery area) and the Kansan. I think the Marais des Cygnes massacre was an important step for the Jayhawkers (I think stupid) raids in the Little Dixie! Marais des Cygnes massacre (on May 19, 1858) was the MOST STUPID STEP in the Kansas Precivil War, because the free Kansas movement won only the veto of the Southern senators obstructed Kansas to be 34th (free) state. Marais des Cygnes massacre was total pointles action on the winner Kansas majority. Against John Brown action (Pottawatomie massacre on 24-25 1856) which was the turning pont in the Kansas Precivil War, because the peacfull Kansas settlers changed fighter mitiamen as the Jayhawkers. Between 1856 and 1858 I think Kansas won so the Marais des Cygnes massacre in 1858 became the igniter
2. Missouri got not only German immigrants, but other European and not slave holding states American stettlers as well between 1850 and 1861 so it became prounionist majority for the Civil War. St Louise became big city and this big city voted Lincoln in 1860 with an other county. The Ozark region and the Iowa border strip beside the St Louis area were the main prounionist areas. The Iowa border strip soldiers the 44th Missouri infantry regiment played key role in the Battle of Franklin in 1864. The Little Dixie area in Missouri state and around the Missouri river was the main slave holding area and the Border War.
3. As the Marais des Cygnes massacre showed the Deep South could not adapt to stop of the spreading of slavery system and they wanted the Seccession instead of cohabit.
I am sorry: The Little Dixie area in Missouri state and around the Missouri river was the main slave holding area and the Border War was around this area in Missouri and Kansas.
@@avenaoat Yes the counties that bordered the Missouri river across the breadth of the state were known as Little Dixie.
I am just delighted that someone is talking about Missouri during the Civil War, we are often ignored or forgotten.
Grew up near Iron County. One can still see Civil War scars on the Court House and the landmarks nearby.
@@jamesdavis9774 Keytesville MO here...southern lies and revision all over the place
@@megangaw5854 Cass county, MO here. Name the lies and revision, please.
@@joshua511 Statues to traitors that lost the war would be an attempt at revision, no?
@@joshua511 Look at the history books - where they minimize slavery and try to pretend white slave owners were benevolent; the reason the statues went up in public places in the first place was to try to rewrite history. Just shameful stuff really. Why was the civil war fought?
Well Josey Wales never surrendered!
Neither did General Joe Shelby
@@j.b.3693 and @podunkmissouri4999, Yes you both are so right!
@@j.b.3693 i was going to say the same thing.
"I never surrendered. But they took my horse and made him surrender. 'Got 'im pulling a wagon in Kansas, I'll bet!"
"You never seen a Missouri boat ride?"
The atrocities of General Order 11 are memorialized in the Missouri Supreme Court building.
For years, marriages in Missouri were not legally recognized if performed in a "southern" church. Retaliation continued for a generation.
Treason has a price.
I was born / raised & still live in the Kansas City , Missouri area . I traveled for 8 years being up North to Minnesota , Illinois , Michigan . When there people would ask me are you from the South ? No Missouri . When in the South , Tennessee , Alabama , Georgia , I would be asked are you from the North ? , No from Missouri . I always thought that was interesting
Being from Missouri also, I got a lot of that while I was in the Marine Corps. I pretty much answered the same way.
Finally the battle for my native state of Kansas!
Edit: After listening to this highly informative episode, it is wise to remember the past and use caution in our actions today.
The take away from this episode, is the adage, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” There is no black or white, only a morose shade of dark gray manifested from perspective. Whose perspective, north or south, proslaver, abolitionist free stater, or neutral pacifist? It does not matter once your world has entered the morose shade of gray. There are no winners, only losers.
I wish you would of told about the Burning of Harrisonville mo
@bsilcott my relative (4th cousin) James (Jim) Reed was a bushwhacker at Lawrence. I retraced his steps during the war. I went to Lawrence and spoke to a descendant of a shop keeper. She told me her Great great grandfather was “murdered” by Jim Reed. We visited for a 2 hour lunch. Today we keep in touch.
Kinda interesting that 160 years ago we would hate each other for a line drawn on a map. Now, Missourians and Kansans live in peace with on another.
I loved this! I knew about bleeding kansas, q's raiders, Harper's ferry. You made it so real by including actual residents, families and farm animals etc. Then you mentioned future raiders and robbers. You tied a lot of interesting strings together. Also the gun calibers, models and makers...amazing!
I grew up in Independence Missouri and remember 4th grade with clarity. At recess, the school would let us kids out to play and the boys would put our civil war caps on ( blue/gray ) and go at it. In those days they called it “rough housing “… The teachers just look the other way as “boys will be boys. I’am 84 yrs old to day.
Nowa days,
They don't let boys be boys when they can help it
Amazing that you were born and raised in a place called independence Missouri. And the fact that people lived in independence Missouri and still couldn't figure out it was wrong to own other people 😂
Thank you for sharing that story
@@matthew-jy5jp What's really amazing is you commenting on something you know nothing about. Independence, MO was controlled by the Union.
Definitely just the mention of the "Jayhawks" will make the old timers bristle. I knew a 100 year old that uncle lived to 100 who fought in the war and had MANY stories she got FIRST hand. This story is about right from what little she would tell. It was "savage" on both sides.
Bloody Bill was located at Albany, Missouri. However it should be noted it is modern day Orrick, Missouri. It is referred to as the Battle of Albany.
Modern day Albany is in NW Missouri.
"The Missouri compromise" WAS and IS, WELL known.
To a few. Most high school and college students are hard pressed to find Missouri on a map. Born in the bootheel, so I get it.
@@marksmess136 :-)
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Reckon so
So eye can count the hairs on that hand
The Yellow Rose of Alabama
Don't pay him no mind.
Kid ain't right.
Pull emual!
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Sir, you are a storyteller of the finest quality! It's funny to think of Kansas as founded by progressive reformers with characters and cities founded and funded by well to do pockets from back east. I guess those pockets eventually got holes in them. What a pleasure to watch and listen. One minute of John Brown and fifty minutes of ...here is the rest of the story. Thank you!
Missouri did succeed, on Oct 31 1861 after refusing Lincolns request to send 5000 state militia. Governor Claybourne Fox Jackson and the Missouri stated legistlature fled to Arkansas and set up government in exile. President Lincoln replace the state government.
Drove along the Kansas/Missouri border last month. Saw a lot of the markers. Sad. "You may not want war, but war may want you."
Born in Kansas City I grew up in Iola,KS (next county seat west of Ft Scott). Partied in Lawrence in the late '80s. Lived in Nevada,MO from 1998-2014. Now in Springfield,MO. I find this part of American history extremely fascinating for obvious reasons. Also "The Outlaw Josie Wells" is on my all time favorite movie list. Thanks for the video as I was able to glean a few more facts that I wasn't already aware of.
Who didn't party in Lawrence?
Yep , I'm in St . Louis and I got NO Quarter , NO Dimes or Nickle , I'm Broke :( QC
The small community i live in now has some of this history. The Kansas raiders burnt two plantation hoises, the slaves would not leave with them. They raiders then hearded all the slaves into the houses and burned the alive. So much fot the Kansas concerned about slaves. The little museum in the town of Leeton, Missouri has all the records and artifacts concerning those families. THE land i live original homestead was Micheal Runner, the Kansas raiders rode up his lane and shot him and a crippled son.
Sounds like some tall tales told back in the day by some Missouri bushwackers to me!
Just kidding. I believe it.
It was brutal & on both sides.
It was so bad, the looting & lawlessness attracted unsavory types who would raid both sides.
My grandfather who died in 1969 could recite Order #11 by heart. Lotta resentment still. I'll just leave that there.
#11 was a detailed statement.
It really stated that the Union could not trust their effectiveness, suffered guerilla efforts, and the General found his Ego feed in Authoritarian control.
The entire war, as are all, are directly rooted in the Human "Lower Mind, aka Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind" where all negative thought energies reside.
Ego, and a desire to take what their foe has, ie: greed.
It is a simplistic discernment.
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Was your grandfather a child during Order Number 11?
I can't imagine what a horrifying experience that would've been for a child. Bless his heart❤
No - he would have heard about it from his family
Beth - I don’t disagree. Libido dominandi as Augustine would call it (our fallen nature) has been at the root of all mankind’s problems. We all have a ‘desire to dominate’. Those who can subdue it to one degree or another are the true peacemakers. We needed more of those types then and now
Order #11 is a statement proof that the General had fear and doubt, and reacted with fear based thought, and each individual affected was stripped of their Constitutional Rights.
There were other means to deal with the subject, but by then they obviously had not discovered them and had not assigned the correct General to deal with the root cause, the Missouri/Kansas Border War, which began before and continued after the Civil War...
The vast number of Quantrell's group had suffered personal/family abused and losses due to that Border War. "It" had more influence and had influence from the Elites + Politicians. The reason the James Boys were forced to retal8ate, they would not give them their citizenship back after the war.
If Confederate Generals got theirs, then the James Boys shiuld have been freed too.
Jesse remained on the Wanted List, so he gave them a reason ...
I live in Harrisonville and spent time in Nevada, MO. Your story telling is not just popcorn worthy but 100% accurate. Subscribed!
Welcome to America's heartland
Excellent video!!!
As a native Missourian with deep roots in this state going back to the 18th century when it was Spanish territory, I am quite sure the conflict between Kansas and Missouri is still ongoing.
Mizzou Rah Rah Rah!
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I'm a 44 yr old born in Manhattan KS descendent of German American Ancestors that were born in the 1850's this gave me chills. Been all over this state chasing pheasant in my youth, seen a lot of the land marks! Thank you sir for this!
📚 What part of "All men are Created Equal", the Constitution", "the Bill of Rights", "Freedom of Religion", and "Freedom and Independence" (did these Peoples, on both sides, not comprehend?)
Given that men = Human, what part of this is not understood Today?
All negative thoughts, feelings, attitudes, prejudices, accusations, judging and Judgemental, envy, jealousy, etc, all causes of every wat, all of these thought energies originate and reside in the Human "Lower Mind aka Ego Mind".
The "Higher Mind aka Mature Mind" is where all Positive Thought Energies and Wisdom reside.
It requires the knowledge of these facts, a Conscious Thought choice, + "Applying Higher Mind".
Practice is necessary ti establish it as a habit. It changes One's life to far greater experiences, for the "Universal Law of Attraction" is Absolute.
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
It was truley a war inside a war
Well done. Gone is the myth of the Southern gentleman soldier and the noble Yankee.
Awesome show . As a Missourian the word Jawhawk still holds contempt
And it makes this Kansan proud.
I bet you're struck with fear when right before "jayhawk"
You hear "ROCK CHALK"
proud of terror? arson? murder? theft Kansans stealing from MO farmers, using war for excuse? yep. proud Kansan. :-/ @@nnonotnow
Agreed!! I hate the fact the KU can call themselves “Jayhawks” after all the Jayhawks did and the disturbing weight that the name carries. They need to change that. -I’m from Missouri BTW
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My children’ family came from Germany just as you say settled in south Illinois to farm. One of the first guys fought first on one side during the Civil War, and then switched sides. He probably didn’t speak English and didn’t know what he was doing. The family and the farm are still in St. Louis; where they are still the most racist people I know.
Incredible story! Now, my mother's history makes more sense. She is from western Missouri. My maternal grandfather's father and uncle both fought for the Union. My maternal grandmother's family and extended family fought for the Confederacy. When grandmother married grandfather, he was shunned by her family as "that damned Yankee." Even as a child, you could feel the tension at family gatherings when we went to visit them in Sugar Creek MO. Those roots, memories, and bitterness linger on and run very deep indeed!
VERY GOOD VIDEO. Bloody Bill Anderson was killed at Albany (now Orrick, MO) & a monument was placed at the site, somewhat honoring the Confederate side. Its very hard to find-- lost to the local history since asking directions did no good.. It can be found on a hill NE of the town if memory serves. I grew up on a farm near the "other" Albany -which is in Gentry County, MO.
My great grandfather and 3 of his brothers were all from blue springs 2 went with Shelby 1 was killed at lone jack under hays. The other went with quantrill attended reunions was one of the escorts that received quantrills mother to blue springs after the war.
As a lifelong Kansan working in Missouri, I can say people still get testy when the term bushwhacker gets thrown around.
Same with Jayhawker!
This was really informative. It confirms how I thought of the large German immigration in St. Louis having a lot to do with keeping Missouri in the Union but expanded for me the mixed opinion in the rest of the state yet the over-all attempt to remain neutral. I thought of Missouri as being more urban versus rutal divided in its view of slavery. If ever visiting St. Louis I recommend visiting the General Grant national park museum across from Grants Farm, which is a great place for families. Grant met the sister of his Army buddy when stationed at nearby Jefferson Barracks prior to the Civil war and married in to a slave owning family despite himself being from an abolitionist Ohio family.
Missoura had southern sympathy. Couldn't grow cotton, they hated the abolishinist and then came the Union Carpetbaggers. Kansas freestaters
When I hear stories like these I always wonder in times like these why allow someone to make you an “easy victim” even in current events… if someone is going to take your life atleast make them work for it. Don’t just follow them out to let them put a bullet in your forehead. I understand I wasn’t there and I’m sure they were petrified at what was happening but in the end go down fighting… not on your knees waiting. Ironically i live in Missouri I have my whole life.
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!
This is a story that needs told. A really good book is "Caught between Three Fires" by Tom Rafiner. It covers Cass County Missouri during the war
Should have mentioned the Battle of hemp Bales in Lexington Missouri
Free soilers also came from some Southern states, believe it or not all Southerns were pro-slavery
Growing up in missouri and being a big sports fan I know I hate all things Kansas and I definitely think it stretches back to the 1850s through the civil war and while I think both sides in the border war are evil I will always back my home state also I grew up hearing about the raid on Danville I grew up close to it and I was told that before they attacked bloody bill who knew a girl in the all girls school there told them to put there blankets out on the windows and that would signal the attackers not to burn the school down and the building still stands today because of that
Heard the same thing about Bloody Bill, I think read it somewhere.
The 1860 colt army is actuslly superior to the 1851 colt navy I own pairs of both.
This sounds like it was written by someone "pro-slavery". There are so many tones of the poor, victim pro-slavery folks. One cannot stand neutral against evil.
Watched the entire thing, your narration and way of explaining the events really makes the story easy to understand and picture. This made me want to take a trip to Kansas soon to see what historic sights are left
I live in Johnson County and I assure you the "War of Northern Agression " is not forgotten. The local area has families related that had murders and burnings by Kansas Raiders. One murder, a Micheal Summer was shot down and his crippled son murdered. Two local plantation houses were burned with the slave families inside alive.
Just joined today and absolutely loved this episode! I had no idea the level of violence that took place in that theater of war.
Thanks for joining!
@@ThreadsfromtheNationalTapestryyou're welcome ! Studied North Carolina history at NCSU under Dr. Jerry Cashion. His way of talking about the Civil War gave me a great interest in the time period. You are a great story teller and really bring it to life!
This is where the Civil war started people dying over slavery
I wish you would also talk about the fact that the war wasn't just about slavery but Is state's rights
The Battle of Carthage
Interesting episode. Too bad your research did not include what the real name of the last book of the Bible is -- REVELATION.
I'm from Southeast Missouri and I grew up in a town where a courthouse was burned by a union Brigade anyone who says the union was not blood Savage murderers should only look at the war in Missouri the atrocities committed there are ridiculous and a lot of Southern missourians still hold resentment to Northern Missouri and Kansas to this day
Great presentation, enjoyable and informative. For those wanting a good read I recommend 'Civil War on the Missouri-Kansas Border' by Donald Gilmore. Sidebar - some of the Missouri soldiers are still regarded as heroes; Clements, James, Quantrill, Thrailkill, Anderson.
34:37 ' Wait ! What !? I thought I was the avenging angel of the Almighty!' - J. Brown.
Very good video. I've heard bit and piece's about the border war all my life but had never seen or heard one good source covering it all with alot of detail. Good Job
Kansas was the most dangerous place on the planet
In the aftermath of the Civil War in Missouri, Missouri Resident/Union Soldiers were hunted down and assassinated by former Confederate Missouri soldiers, throughout the state of Missouri, from 1865 -1870.
In effect,the war continued....
Well done! As one sympathetic to the Southern Cause, I appreciate the fair and balanced retelling!!! Most Civil War documentaries are painful to set through due to their Federal biases, racial agendas and unbalanced retelling. My family came to Missouri just prior to it becoming a Nation in 1820. I had family on both sides of the War in Missouri. My Confederate side did not own slaves. My Yankee side did. My grandmother was raised by the former slaves and decorated their graves until she died in 1981. My Grandfather came from a Confederate family, my Grandmother a Union, she only agreed to marry him if politics would never be discussed in the house. The little town of Licking (back then) had a Union Cemetery with my grandmother's family in it. Also a Confederate Cemetery with my grandfather's family in it. They were buried together in a neutral cemetery the next town over.
Screw your cause
@@TerrellThomas1971 I got $5 that says you think the Southern Cause was Slavery! You Yanks have been programmed and lied to for 160 years. Lincoln didn't even free the slaves in the Union and fired a Union General in Missouri for freeing Slaves because Lincoln did not want the war to be about slavery. Read the Emancipation Proclamation, it allowed the States and Counties that remained loyal to the Union to keep their slaves. "The war was not about slavery" - Robert E. Lee.. No Southerner fought and died to "defend slavery", that's Yankee B.S..
@@rebelrogI’m older than you and I grew up in the Jim Crow South. I don’t believe you have seen what I’ve seen.
@@rongreen8962 What are you even talking about, what does the Jim Crow South have to do with my comment?
@@rebelrog you say you’re “sympathetic to the Southern cause,” and as someone who grew up in the segregated South, I must understand this “cause” to be blind to the need for the dominant group of white people to actively work to undo the racism of the time. It didn’t happen, largely because we white kids were taught about the glories of the Confederacy while the Black kids all around us couldn’t even go to school with us. So the “cause” of the South rings hollow to someone who actually lived it as I did.
Excellent video. I live about an hour from Kansas City Missouri and grew up with the stories and as I have gotten older, now 45 years old, I continually find it more interesting to see how much was going on at this border that was never taught to us in schoolabout this portion of the Civil War and about the building of our country.
I'm a cowboy from Colorado. Born many years after this mess. Retired Army and God bless.
brother, i am from pleasant hill. you should se our museum. full of stuff about this.
Exceptional! Great details and timeline. One of the best I’ve heard as a Kansas Historian interested in local events. A+
Long live Wm. Clark Quantrill!
It could happen again.
Yes, those who don't learn from history are...
Yup I love just a half mile from the old wire road and about 2 miles from Camp Bliss a Southern incompetent . They and the Union fought up at the Battle Field close to Springfield Mo. and where I live the battle of Madry . I heard a lot of stories .
I loved the episode but wished there would have been some talk about what happened in Columbia Missouri where the university of Missouri mentioned in the episode is. I went there for undergrad and the bitter feelings do live on in sports. KU was always enemy #1. The Columbia tigers were a complex group. The nearby women's college of Steven's university served as a hospital for soldiers and is still haunted to this day. Love the Civil War series!
⚖️ They became that which the loathed. What was the difference between the 2 types, in terms of their behaviors and etchics. All fully of the "Lower Mind aka Ego Mind'.
Following them, the Industrialists, only difference, they emoloyed ither to do their unethical and criminal bidding, many with a Pinkerton Badge.
Thank you for another great story.
This was just plain murder
My Junior and Senior years at Topeka High School, I went with Jimmy Doyle. I am wondering if he is a descendant of James Doyle.
I love this channel. You're an excellent teacher.
All 4 of my grandparents grew up on remote farms in the Ozarks of central Missouri, south of the Missouri River. My mom’s ancestors were the first Germanic (no “Germany” until after the US Civil War) settlers of the town and region around Hermann, MO. They settled there in the 1840’s. My grandmother’s grandmother was young during the Civil War and remembered their farm being raided by both sides and not caring for either of them.
Hermann is still considered "Yankee" by those of us in the south end of the county because they were Northern sympathizers...still much distrust between the Northern and Southern towns in Gasconade County!
@@Randy7th Hermann was where my mom’s family was from. A few miles outside of town anyway by First Creek. Other ancestors lived in town. My dad’s parents grew up on the Gasconade/Crawford County border, near a place called Jake’s Prairie. It’s thickly wooded there, but I suppose there’s an area that you could consider an opening at least. I haven’t been by my great-grandparent’s farm for years - maybe 40. But back then at least, the barn was still standing as was the house - the 3rd one he built. The first 2 were log structures, and each one burned to the ground. A spark from the chimney the first time, lightening the next. The 3rd he built out of hand poured concrete in the early 1900’s. I was there with my dad & brother years after my grandfather died. Dad said “I wonder if Adam (my grandfather’s cousin) still lives down the road?” He did. He was hard of hearing, but looked practically to be a clone of my grandpa. Same voice and eyes. Almost like seeing a ghost.
@jimferris9447 that's interesting, my sister married into Hermann about 60 years ago and my stepfather was from South of Cuba but was around Jakes Prairie a lot in his life. My dad's side is from High Gate which is only slightly bigger than Jakes Prairie at this point. When the railroad went through Cuba and St James a lot of little towns started dieing and Route 66 finished them off. That happened frequently in this area...
Interesting broadcast of Missouri History. It answers a lot of Questions later about where Missouri "stood" whether Union or Confederacy. If 1 reads from the Old Testament of justice,...not a "right to kill randomly" but was supposed to be 2 or 3 witnesses etc. "Justice" was served up Swiftly!!
The animosity of the border war lives with the resistance of Jackson county Missouri and Johnson County Kansas, as well as Kansas City and St. Louis. Kansas and Missouri have difficulty communicating as states and often have long standing silent boycotts against each other. Missouri the state and Kansas the state are seldom on good terms with each other. Having called both states home for an equal amount of my life I still call Missouri home with pride.
The Busch family was amongst the German Americans living in St. Louis. The Busch family started Budweiser.
I’m from Missouri. 7th generation. You have an error in your opening Missouri did not stay in the Union. We seceded on October 31, 1861 and became the 12th state in the confederacy on November 28th
Count the stars on the battle flag. There are 13, not 11. The Yankees still lie about that
Great video, so much more info than most. How can so few give a "Like" ? It wasn't biased. Lots of numb people running loose anymore...
This was very informative. I used to tell visitors to the 1859 Jail in Independence Missouri about Order 11. Residents who did not heed the order to leave were rounded up and literally crammed into the jail cells.
Jim Lane was a particularly evil man but so was Bill Anderson.
The whole situation evolved from the Kansas Nebraska Act which gave territories the right to vote on whether they would be a slave or free state. This repealed the Missouri Compromise which gave Missouri the right to be a slave state. Missouri and the territories of Kansas and Nebraska did not want to be next to the other if one was pro slavery while the other was anti slavery.
This was John Brown's real beginnings. He activities drew the attention of what is known as the "Secret Six". They helped and funded his later raid.