Hello. What is the lighting efficacy of the LED strips presented and do they meet the legal requirements? Main problem as far as I am aware is meeting the legal efficiency requirements, as some COB strips on the market are effectively illegal.
LED life depends upon lots of different factors from mounting arrangements to drive current. In a kitchen used a few hours a day I wouldn’t expect any problems for a long time. (Assuming they are installed properly)
@@efixx I believe there is a quality issue too often with certain LED products. Especially with LED “bulbs”. Incandescent bulbs used a lot more power but for disposal they were just a bit of glass, a tiny amount of filament and some tin. Now a modern LED E27/B22/GX53 light is full of electronic components in addition to the LEDs. Every one that’s failed on me personally has failed due to the additional components failing. The LEDs are fine when tested on a lab power supply. What gives me the -hits is how much e-waste these things produce over a traditional incandescent bulb. Domestic lighting was never the major demand on our grids back when we had incandescents. Now we save with LEDs but I feel that we are fooling ourselves thinking that these modern LED bulbs provide a net *environmental* benefit over incandescents. I’m confident they don’t. They are fantastic technology but my issue is purely the environmental claims and justifications for these things. When it comes to daily living though, I’ll admit that all that goes out the window with present UK electricity pricing which is effectively a national emergency considering it’s impact on those that can least afford it. The solutions demonstrated in this efixx video look great. If the driver fails, which in my experience it is more likely to do than the LEDs, it can be replaced individually, thus minimising the amount of e-waste to the driver and not the entire lighting system itself. For the purposes of full disclosure, I use a “vintage” kettle with a replaceable element.
Nice to see the Macau @ 90cri, might switch suppliers depending on availability , for anyone wanting to dim led strip in a permanent way, i use an adjustable voltage power supply by Meanwell, they even make them din rail mounted... nice to see you guys hitting on Cri.. colour in the video shows it better than previous
I had to deal with this extensively with some aerospace LED strips from a couple of generations ago. Any diffuser that isn't water clear has losses They basically mix in stuff like chalk to make white diffusers and that is just going to increase loss.
It's about time. How long will it be before they make an Edge version? They also need to move the solder pad under/on the back and trim the strip down to just the lights with no white edge.
I’d heard COB recently… I’m on Hue color lights and light strips. The light strips themselves are never visible as they are at the backs of high shelves or under cabinets, so that solution works very well. They are plenty bright. And not having so many LEDs, they don’t generate as much heat and therefore don’t need ventilation. But I do have a potential application for a COB color light strip. We’ll see how it develops
I use this LED strip same exact product behind my reflector panel of my 1976 Ford LTD if you remember those I had that big Square red reflector on the trunk so you run that LED strip all the way around and you glue it down with Flex Seal there's a piece of foam rubber back behind that reflector and you paint that with Flex Seal and then glue down that LED strip and then wire it to a dedicated brake light source by running a wire all the way from the end of the trunk lid up to the brake pedal and Connect into the switch so it won't blink when you turn on the left or the right turn indicators by tapping into one of them it's an awesome application it turned out fantastic and old cars rule when you put in 21st century updating.
Foam crown molding with recessed color temperature adjustable led strips are my favorite way to light up a room. Indirect light is the best kind of light.
I always use Non Waterproof and put them in Acrylic Tubing for the Under glow on my 69 Dodge Charger back in 2006 there isn't any gaps as I am using the 3528 led strips when they shine on the ground, but maybe it is because of the, Acrylic Tubing making it like a tube light but 17 years later and they still work fine, now I am kind of interested in those COB Led light strips they look good it doesn't matter if they're are non waterproof as I will be placing them in the Acrylic Tubing again for another project.
How flexible are these? im thinking of doing tight corner with these COB strips, will have any impact on the joints or is it pretty flexible on a flat surface to do tight 90 degree corners?
We have more than 40 COB light strips for you to choose from, most of them can achieve IP67 waterproof effect, welcome to leave a message to me for details
With no dots they will all be dashing for them. I have wired the traditional led lights as a ring because of voltage drop to double up the continuous length.
Blue and yellow don't make white. It makes cyan. The blue colour dots you are seeing is the refraction of your camera lens with its coating. If you look at any quality lens it will have a tint to it.
I want to use them on my loom beam. I get the strips and how they work, but I just don't know how to electrify them. This loom is in the middle of the room and would need a long cord? What components do I need? For the sake of conversation, let's call this loom beam 5' in length and I would mount the strip on the underside of the beam to light my handiwork. Thanks for any guidance you can offer
Wow. Really enjoyed this video. Any chance the waterproof version of these lights are available in the US? If so, can you provide any links or references. Thanks for your time.
We have more than 40 COB light strips for you to choose from, most of them can achieve IP67 waterproof effect, welcome to leave a message to me for details
With the power connector fitted on the end of the COB is it then possible to trim off the white borders either side all along for the entire length? will it still work?
arrange so the distance between them makes the distance between LEDs consistent. Set them so the polarity does not have wires crossing. {yes, you have to solder - using short wires}}
@@efixx Thank you for replying. It's odd that ROBUS have all sorts of connectors but not a 90 Deg one - An obvious real-world requirement. I am looking to use the COB LED's on a stair project. I have 3 flights of steps - A 9 Step, 11 Step & another 9 Step flight. I am not exactly sure how I'm going to be able to control them all, as each step is 1.2M wide, with a 0.3M depth, and I want the COB LED strips to form a long "L" shape on each step - Hence the need for a 90 Deg join. Looking at the power requirement, it appears I will need 2 x 200W drivers for the 9 Step flights and a 250W for the 11 Step flight. As much as I would love to be able to create a Run-Way motion effect, I don't want to have to individually address each step with a wire - There would be far too many wires. As it is, I can probably hide a pair of wires for each flight to run to the drivers. I was thinking of getting an Arduino or a Pi involved, but going the KISS route might be best for my first project of this kind. If you have any tips - They would be most welcomed.
I've been using COB lamps for years, GU10 mainly and I was under the impression in related to the make of the diode from the glass type the original LED lamps were made of to the yellow coated replacement, as opposed to being a continual strip of diodes. How do you guys deal with the problem of single insulated cabling, (both ELV and 230V), usually where they go into the driver, like that app controlled on the bench you showed, or the 5 strand wiring that gets soldered onto the tape on an RGBW setup?
What is the solution to drivers which have 230v terminals at one end and 12/24v at the other? I've thought about putting the driver in an enclosure but surely this will impede heat dissipation and likely shorten the drivers lifespan?
Good video, but the additional LEDs don't make it any brighter. The brightness is a function of the Lumens/watt and the wattage. Having done some research, it appears that typically, the COB strip is less efficient than many stand alone 2835 LED strips.
What was the wall switch controlling - was it dimming only or change or colour from cool white to warm white? Do you know of any product that can do that as I am on the search for such product for awhile already
This was just for dimming on a single channel. Other versions are available for multi channel and I have seen dedicated drivers and controls for colour tuning - I’ll see what we can find.
@@efixx Great. Thank you. I've seen controlers where you can choose a colour tuning, but I haven't yet seen a product to that can be switched or work with a smart system. I had a client struggling to decide of colour lighting he wants as he preferred natural light during the day and warm light evenings. Lighting with switchable colour tuning would have been perfect. I'll have a look at Robus product. Maybe they have or a working on something similar.
What sort of price are these strips per m length? I appreciate that the prices might date quickly, but it would be great to get a sense of where these sit in your videos?
We don’t tend to add prices as it always depends - a quick Google for Robus Macau LED strip should bring up a few online sellers - better prices can usually be obtained from a local electrical wholesaler
I'm attempting to build a mini holographic fan, I've been using micro RGB LEDs to prototype with. 3d printing them into the spindles. Are there an COB multicolor strips. I'm also interested in OLED multicolor strips, do you know anything about them?
@@efixx I assumed that colours coming from pigments in paint would be the same as colours coming from any other source, but it seems you are correct, pigments reflecting certain colours are different to light sources of different wavelengths - I don't exactly know why this is the case, but I've learned something - always assumed you needed RGB to make white, but apparently even Newton knew you could do it with blue and yellow.
I’ve seen it - waiting for Joe to comment. Problem is electricians (and any employer) is bound by the Electricity at Work Act and hence GS38 which sets out the scope of equipment for safe isolation.
@@efixx yes but any electrician who uses it for safe isolation is a dangerous fool , example of use , your down the pub let’s say and the landlord ask you to take a look at the cable hanging out of the wall we’re the TV used to be he ask you if it is live or not ? You can’t turn the Circuits off ? But you have no tools with you but the landlord has a few basic tools one is a neon screwdriver so you take that one a quick touch on the line conductor and wow it is live You now need to find the beaker for that circuit so you can isolate it and make it safe so you go home to your toolbox so you can do the job properly and safety.
The led chips are mounted directly to the circuit board - COB - regular LEDs have the chip mounted in a package including phosphor which is then mounted to the LED strip circuit board.
Some manufacturers do 12v led strips which are some of the best & brightest I've used. I have soldered to the wee copper pads with a tiny soldering iron & used the remainder of the strip in my van & in friends vans too, so much better than the silly wee bulb in the back of a transit .
because of the Vf of the set of LEDs; more LEDs in a set means higher Vf which requires a higher power supply voltage. You can use a boost voltage converter to 'boost' the voltage from 12V to 24V
Don't get the obsession with LED 'dots'. Do you walk around the room staring at the lights? Diffusers can greatly diminish the lux, and turn yellow when exposed to sunlight.
You may know what your talking about but no body else does. Your talk like you have marbles in your mouth and your audio is awful. Get more professional.
The real secret of led light strips is that it's dumb as hell and I can't imagine a straight man messing with this sort of crap. Next tutorial: how to keep the glitter out of your eyes when doing your makeup
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Hello. What is the lighting efficacy of the LED strips presented and do they meet the legal requirements? Main problem as far as I am aware is meeting the legal efficiency requirements, as some COB strips on the market are effectively illegal.
That's just crazy using an ip67 seal quick connector. I've always rubbished those things, but clearly you've got a working example!
I was told that COB LED's die faster, but I've had these integrated in my kitchen larder for over a year now and they're brilliant!
LED life depends upon lots of different factors from mounting arrangements to drive current. In a kitchen used a few hours a day I wouldn’t expect any problems for a long time. (Assuming they are installed properly)
@@efixx I believe there is a quality issue too often with certain LED products. Especially with LED “bulbs”. Incandescent bulbs used a lot more power but for disposal they were just a bit of glass, a tiny amount of filament and some tin. Now a modern LED E27/B22/GX53 light is full of electronic components in addition to the LEDs. Every one that’s failed on me personally has failed due to the additional components failing. The LEDs are fine when tested on a lab power supply. What gives me the -hits is how much e-waste these things produce over a traditional incandescent bulb. Domestic lighting was never the major demand on our grids back when we had incandescents. Now we save with LEDs but I feel that we are fooling ourselves thinking that these modern LED bulbs provide a net *environmental* benefit over incandescents. I’m confident they don’t.
They are fantastic technology but my issue is purely the environmental claims and justifications for these things.
When it comes to daily living though, I’ll admit that all that goes out the window with present UK electricity pricing which is effectively a national emergency considering it’s impact on those that can least afford it.
The solutions demonstrated in this efixx video look great. If the driver fails, which in my experience it is more likely to do than the LEDs, it can be replaced individually, thus minimising the amount of e-waste to the driver and not the entire lighting system itself.
For the purposes of full disclosure, I use a “vintage” kettle with a replaceable element.
Nice to see the Macau @ 90cri, might switch suppliers depending on availability , for anyone wanting to dim led strip in a permanent way, i use an adjustable voltage power supply by Meanwell, they even make them din rail mounted... nice to see you guys hitting on Cri.. colour in the video shows it better than previous
Dimming can be done via adjusting the voltage or by using PWM. PWM might be preferred for low light levels as the color is better preserved.
I had to deal with this extensively with some aerospace LED strips from a couple of generations ago. Any diffuser that isn't water clear has losses They basically mix in stuff like chalk to make white diffusers and that is just going to increase loss.
It's about time. How long will it be before they make an Edge version? They also need to move the solder pad under/on the back and trim the strip down to just the lights with no white edge.
I’d heard COB recently… I’m on Hue color lights and light strips. The light strips themselves are never visible as they are at the backs of high shelves or under cabinets, so that solution works very well. They are plenty bright. And not having so many LEDs, they don’t generate as much heat and therefore don’t need ventilation. But I do have a potential application for a COB color light strip. We’ll see how it develops
I use this LED strip same exact product behind my reflector panel of my 1976 Ford LTD if you remember those I had that big Square red reflector on the trunk so you run that LED strip all the way around and you glue it down with Flex Seal there's a piece of foam rubber back behind that reflector and you paint that with Flex Seal and then glue down that LED strip and then wire it to a dedicated brake light source by running a wire all the way from the end of the trunk lid up to the brake pedal and Connect into the switch so it won't blink when you turn on the left or the right turn indicators by tapping into one of them it's an awesome application it turned out fantastic and old cars rule when you put in 21st century updating.
Great video guys, thanks. Ross
Thanks for commenting 👍🏻
Foam crown molding with recessed color temperature adjustable led strips are my favorite way to light up a room. Indirect light is the best kind of light.
A person who know lighting 👍
Is this the first video where it's not two lobsters talking to us, but actual skin color is visible? :_D I'm loving it - things just got human! :D
Fantastic video series - all very informative and thoughtfully done
I always use Non Waterproof and put them in Acrylic Tubing for the Under glow on my 69 Dodge Charger back in 2006 there isn't any gaps as I am using the 3528 led strips when they shine on the ground, but maybe it is because of the,
Acrylic Tubing making it like a tube light but 17 years later and they still work fine, now I am kind of interested in those COB Led light strips they look good it doesn't matter if they're are non waterproof as I will be placing them in the Acrylic Tubing again for another project.
Just what I been looking for , thanks 😊 🙏
Interesting as always lads. Hadn't heard of COB myself. Looks great.
Same as you I've never heard of Cob either, interesting looking think though
We’d seen it on data sheets but never had the chance to try it out. It will be a go to now for this type of application.
You probably know them as barm cakes or baps. Funny no one up north knows cobs
Down south its known as Rolls use saying 😂
@@Messimagician83 well I'm north east so you're right.
How flexible are these? im thinking of doing tight corner with these COB strips, will have any impact on the joints or is it pretty flexible on a flat surface to do tight 90 degree corners?
Nice job done there Gordon 👍
I like that COB LED , I think it would look good around my lounge.
Fantastic video guy’s as always 👍👍👍❤️
Thanks Sean 👍
We have more than 40 COB light strips for you to choose from, most of them can achieve IP67 waterproof effect, welcome to leave a message to me for details
Thank you for sharing!
With no dots they will all be dashing for them. I have wired the traditional led lights as a ring because of voltage drop to double up the continuous length.
Blue and yellow don't make white. It makes cyan. The blue colour dots you are seeing is the refraction of your camera lens with its coating. If you look at any quality lens it will have a tint to it.
The yellow phosphor layer emits multiple band widths of light. cen.acs.org/materials/inorganic-chemistry/chemical-search-better-white-light/96/i46
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We are COB light strip manufacturer in China, there are more than 40 different types of COB light strips, contact me for more details
I Saw the COB 5mm led strip i think they be better as there isn't any edging on them.
cob well that is something i will need in my life
"Loight" :)
nice, but can they work with 'regular' (V-Pro) dimmers?
I want to use them on my loom beam. I get the strips and how they work, but I just don't know how to electrify them. This loom is in the middle of the room and would need a long cord? What components do I need? For the sake of conversation, let's call this loom beam 5' in length and I would mount the strip on the underside of the beam to light my handiwork. Thanks for any guidance you can offer
Can you bend a cob strip like you do a regular LED strip?
Can you bend these strips in an 80-90 degree angle? I want to put a single strip around my wooden head board behind our bed.
Wow. Really enjoyed this video. Any chance the waterproof version of these lights are available in the US? If so, can you provide any links or references. Thanks for your time.
We have more than 40 COB light strips for you to choose from, most of them can achieve IP67 waterproof effect, welcome to leave a message to me for details
With the power connector fitted on the end of the COB is it then possible to trim off the white borders either side all along for the entire length? will it still work?
The great thing is, lots of light output for small wattage output!
What is the aluminium channel you used for the strips on the ceiling? Thanks.
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Hi, im confused.. when did Craig Ferguson become a spokesman for EFixx?? it's really neat to see a famous talk show host comedian doing a DIY.
Jeez - I normally get Steve Coogan
Can you make a perfect right angle with continuous light?
its tricky - unless you are using a deeper extrusion and diffuser cover.
arrange so the distance between them makes the distance between LEDs consistent. Set them so the polarity does not have wires crossing. {yes, you have to solder - using short wires}}
@@efixx Thank you for replying. It's odd that ROBUS have all sorts of connectors but not a 90 Deg one - An obvious real-world requirement. I am looking to use the COB LED's on a stair project. I have 3 flights of steps - A 9 Step, 11 Step & another 9 Step flight. I am not exactly sure how I'm going to be able to control them all, as each step is 1.2M wide, with a 0.3M depth, and I want the COB LED strips to form a long "L" shape on each step - Hence the need for a 90 Deg join. Looking at the power requirement, it appears I will need 2 x 200W drivers for the 9 Step flights and a 250W for the 11 Step flight. As much as I would love to be able to create a Run-Way motion effect, I don't want to have to individually address each step with a wire - There would be far too many wires. As it is, I can probably hide a pair of wires for each flight to run to the drivers. I was thinking of getting an Arduino or a Pi involved, but going the KISS route might be best for my first project of this kind. If you have any tips - They would be most welcomed.
This effect can be achieved with our side glow COB light strips, contact me for details.
I've been using COB lamps for years, GU10 mainly and I was under the impression in related to the make of the diode from the glass type the original LED lamps were made of to the yellow coated replacement, as opposed to being a continual strip of diodes. How do you guys deal with the problem of single insulated cabling, (both ELV and 230V), usually where they go into the driver, like that app controlled on the bench you showed, or the 5 strand wiring that gets soldered onto the tape on an RGBW setup?
I've literally installed this today and had the same issue.
All of the single insulated cable here is on the LV side of the driver. The dimming modules have 24VDC inputs
What is the solution to drivers which have 230v terminals at one end and 12/24v at the other? I've thought about putting the driver in an enclosure but surely this will impede heat dissipation and likely shorten the drivers lifespan?
@@ShaneSiKBoYBrown what's the problem with taking the outer sheath into the driver, I've never had an issue.
Does Robus have a distributor for the United States?
Good video, but the additional LEDs don't make it any brighter. The brightness is a function of the Lumens/watt and the wattage. Having done some research, it appears that typically, the COB strip is less efficient than many stand alone 2835 LED strips.
No corner or 45 degree pieces available? Im going for seamless.
What was the wall switch controlling - was it dimming only or change or colour from cool white to warm white?
Do you know of any product that can do that as I am on the search for such product for awhile already
This was just for dimming on a single channel. Other versions are available for multi channel and I have seen dedicated drivers and controls for colour tuning - I’ll see what we can find.
@@efixx Great. Thank you.
I've seen controlers where you can choose a colour tuning, but I haven't yet seen a product to that can be switched or work with a smart system. I had a client struggling to decide of colour lighting he wants as he preferred natural light during the day and warm light evenings. Lighting with switchable colour tuning would have been perfect.
I'll have a look at Robus product. Maybe they have or a working on something similar.
@@angelarolski1554 It can done using a mechanical switch or two smart switches though using a set of warm and a set of cool
COB? Don't you mean a BUN, maybe a ROLL? Definitely not a TEACAKE though, as those allow far to many CURRENTs.
These Puns are getting worse you must be BARMy
You are mixing white with yellow light for color tunning? Please do a video about color tunning.
Watch this space
What sort of price are these strips per m length? I appreciate that the prices might date quickly, but it would be great to get a sense of where these sit in your videos?
We don’t tend to add prices as it always depends - a quick Google for Robus Macau LED strip should bring up a few online sellers - better prices can usually be obtained from a local electrical wholesaler
We are COB light strip manufacturer in China, there are more than 40 different types of COB light strips, contact me for more details
Interesting stuff what is the cutting distances?,shame only 5metres before parallel wiring is required 😬
45mm cut points on this one.
@@efixx ta 👍
Although some claim you can daisy-chain regular LED strips (up to 20m !!!) the reality is far different.
I'm attempting to build a mini holographic fan, I've been using micro RGB LEDs to prototype with. 3d printing them into the spindles. Are there an COB multicolor strips. I'm also interested in OLED multicolor strips, do you know anything about them?
We have more than 10 RGB COB strips, contact me for details
Chips on the plate with a fish and peas mmmm
Fridays is fish 🐠 and 🍟 day
Have a question about the regular LED strips, can I solder direct to the copper pads?
Yes - follow up video which you can find in the end screen or description looks at connections including solder method.
Soldering is the best way to permanently connect strips. Practice first if you are novice.
That fake smile omg
Blue and yellow make green. White is a combination of all colours. I think I knew this when I was about 7 years old.
It’s a blue LED plus yellow phosphor - not paint
@@efixx I assumed that colours coming from pigments in paint would be the same as colours coming from any other source, but it seems you are correct, pigments reflecting certain colours are different to light sources of different wavelengths - I don't exactly know why this is the case, but I've learned something - always assumed you needed RGB to make white, but apparently even Newton knew you could do it with blue and yellow.
Hi. What do you have the led strips in around 8:09? are those extrusions? do you sell those too?
regarding the extrusions----are the diffusers removable?
Where may we buy cob RGBWIC?
cant see the pirce what do thise cost?
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Please have a read of the comment on joe’s regs corner video , I would love to hear your thoughts 👍
I’ve seen it - waiting for Joe to comment. Problem is electricians (and any employer) is bound by the Electricity at Work Act and hence GS38 which sets out the scope of equipment for safe isolation.
@@efixx yes but any electrician who uses it for safe isolation is a dangerous fool , example of use , your down the pub let’s say and the landlord ask you to take a look at the cable hanging out of the wall we’re the TV used to be he ask you if it is live or not ? You can’t turn the Circuits off ? But you have no tools with you but the landlord has a few basic tools one is a neon screwdriver so you take that one a quick touch on the line conductor and wow it is live
You now need to find the beaker for that circuit so you can isolate it and make it safe so you go home to your toolbox so you can do the job properly and safety.
Are these products available in the retail market ?
Just Google - Robus Macau LED strip and you should find an online seller
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WS2812B COB?
I thought all led strips were cob hence the need for constant voltage instead of constant current?
The led chips are mounted directly to the circuit board - COB - regular LEDs have the chip mounted in a package including phosphor which is then mounted to the LED strip circuit board.
BigClive has a good video on it
I find your lack of RGB disturbing
Can you get RGB COB Strip ? 🕺
I'm shooked 😳
These are not the LEDs you're looking for... move along. move along...
Why does it have to be 24V, this would be great for a theatre project, but I need to run it off a 12V battery
higher voltage = lower current and lower voltage drop. you could connect 2 x 12v batteries in series.
Some manufacturers do 12v led strips which are some of the best & brightest I've used. I have soldered to the wee copper pads with a tiny soldering iron & used the remainder of the strip in my van & in friends vans too, so much better than the silly wee bulb in the back of a transit .
because of the Vf of the set of LEDs; more LEDs in a set means higher Vf which requires a higher power supply voltage. You can use a boost voltage converter to 'boost' the voltage from 12V to 24V
Led may be good, government banning other light sources and having manufacture's dumb them down is why I refuse to use them.
No more playing dot to dot at efixx 😃😃😃
we join dots everyday
Don't get the obsession with LED 'dots'. Do you walk around the room staring at the lights?
Diffusers can greatly diminish the lux, and turn yellow when exposed to sunlight.
It’s also known as glare in some applications.
You guys do studio tours?
We are always open to visitors ( with prior arrangement)
Interesting, tho, you continuesly hear someone breathing
Must be the studio audience
You may know what your talking about but no body else does. Your talk like you have marbles in your mouth and your audio is awful. Get more professional.
We look forward to your video on the topic so we can learn.
What?? Mumbling and bumbling old dudes.
Look forward to your LED strip series - invite us to the premier.
The real secret of led light strips is that it's dumb as hell and I can't imagine a straight man messing with this sort of crap. Next tutorial: how to keep the glitter out of your eyes when doing your makeup
Alright chill bro
How is life in 1980?
@@efixx straight!