I’m NOT a polyglot (and why you don’t want to be one either)

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  • @davemackenzie8343
    @davemackenzie8343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    100 percent agreed Ari. I am now at a conversational level in Russian after 4 years of effort. Never would have gotten there had I studied another language simultaneously.

    • @olliemould1798
      @olliemould1798 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Продолжайте в том же духе! 💪🏻🇷🇺

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Glad to hear that! I do think there's a time and place for learning other languages, but there's a trade-off to be made.

    • @awesomebearaudiobooks
      @awesomebearaudiobooks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, languages have a snowball learning effect, and often times, you need a lot of time to reach a conversational level, but I am thoroughly convinced that learning more than one language at a time in any given year (for example, a few months one language and a few months another language) is more beneficial than just learning one language.
      I also struggled with French for 4 years, and with German for 6 years. But I was also learning Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Swedish, Norwegian, Esperanto and Polish, and not only my French and German are better and more fluent than ever, I also have the added benefit of understanding other languages, and also have the deeper understanding of both French and German because I see the etymological patterns that tied them to all the other Indo-European languages.

  • @d3f2r1
    @d3f2r1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I agree. One cannot call themselves a "polyglot" if they know how to say "Hello, how are you?" in 10 languages. Very often these people cannot even speak their own language on a high level.

  • @robetheridge6999
    @robetheridge6999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I am 53 and began learning Romanian years ago, but was not at a conversational level, even after living in Romania for 3 months in 2017. I became conversational after moving to Moldova in 2022 right after the war started. I lived 11 months in Croatia during the pandemic and began learning Croatian. I started learning Russian after returning to the States only because I couldn't find anyone to speak Croatian with. My Russian began to get better once I moved to Moldova. Although the languages are different, I mix words from one to the other probably because I hear that from people speaking 'Moldovaneasca' which is just a dialect of Romanian. When out in town, I have heard something like, "Kaneshno, eu stiu" which would be a mixed up way to say, "Of course, I know."
    I enjoy watching you. Thanks for the content.

    • @halcyon733
      @halcyon733 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello from Moldova!

    • @robetheridge6999
      @robetheridge6999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@halcyon733 откуда вы?

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's funny that they use конечно. I guess it's similar to how we in Dutch use 100s of English words as well in our daily lives.

    • @halcyon733
      @halcyon733 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robetheridge6999 Тирасполь, Приднестровье

    • @robetheridge6999
      @robetheridge6999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@halcyon733 У меня есть друзья в Бендерах. Они баптисты и приемные родители в одном из двух наших приемных домов в Приднестровье.

  • @bart_allen
    @bart_allen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    TRUE, i've spend 6 month in full immersion english environment and based on my progress i'm sooo impatient to learn more languages!
    i think a lot about starting learning antoher languages just NOW, even if i'm not native like in english (it's my orginal goal) but your video make me think again about firstly improving a lot more my english before. THX MATE

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're probably at the point where you could start another language. But depending on your situation probably getting fluent in English would be more valuable in terms of friendships, career, media consumption.

  • @sealboy1211
    @sealboy1211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’ve been doing Russian for two years and I’m pretty sure I can speak almost as well as a toddler. I’ll stick to English and Russian when all is said and done.(years more but it’s been fun so far)

  • @MDobri-sy1ce
    @MDobri-sy1ce 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I agree with you are to an extent. Like, at first one should start with one language if they have no language learning experience at least for the first 2-3 years and than slowly incorporate other languages. For example, Russian is my target language so I give it the most amount of time. Swedish was for the first few years as well but since I finished the Swedish Skill Tree I started learning some Norwegian. But in my experience, it’s good to at least have 1-3 target languages you put most time in. Then secondary languages that you spend time on but are second most important but not likely to change anytime some. And then rotational languages. I call the third category you have an interest in them but least important and you only practice a couple times a week.
    I learn 7 but 29… A little excessive but it all depends on the individual and reasons.
    The majority of languages I learn are related so they build upon each other. I don’t think, I would ever learn that many.

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I think with a systematic approach it's possible to learn several languages at the same time. So then it's mainly a matter of asking yourself if you want to progress quicker in 1 language, or share that progress over more languages.

  • @todesque
    @todesque 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Four years of learning Russian, and still feel like I’m another 4-5 years away from fluency. Flirted with the idea at one point of studying German simultaneously … but found it too hard to juggle two languages. Some people can do it, but I can’t. In the end, it comes down to one’s personality. Do you want to ‘’marry’’ one language for many years and be faithful to it and achieve a high level of mastery? Or do you want to sleep around and have fun?

  • @snipergaming2639
    @snipergaming2639 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree. It's usually better to commit to learning one language than multiple because that way you have more time to dedicate to that language, thus enabling you to progress at a much faster rate than you would otherwise. For me personally, I started learning Russian 2 years ago, and I've progressed massively since then. I still struggle with cases every now and again and have a few slip ups, but no where near as many as I had when I decided to learn both Russian and French simultaneously. Since I discarded the French It's been much easier. Also Ari, according to the dictionary a polygot is defined as anyone who knows several languages and you speak Dutch, Russian and English fluently so I would consider you a polygot.

    • @lilkimbu2817
      @lilkimbu2817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be honest what enables me to learn multiple languages (limited amount btw) are alot of factors.
      1) (which is probs one of the greatest reasons) I literally am home and have my days free to do whatever i want so i have insane amounts of time, honestly if i spent more of that time learning than i do now then i could only ponder on how far i would go.
      2) (another great reason) i just have really good memory so yeah that plays apart
      3) I have a personal method self made that helps me learn languages at very comfortable and quick rate
      4) because of knowing german grammar, doing dutch didn't take up much times at all
      5) i started to learn multiple when i already saw how fast i was learning in french due to being experienced in my own method by that point. So when i realized i could of kept on learning atleast one more language without slowing down my previous rate of french. That's when i pushed myself (and I'm here today with good results)
      6) scheduling to some sorts ig
      So yeah honestly bro. B1 in french in 11months. give me 3 yrs and I'ma be c1 in french and b2 in the other few that i do. I do agree to focus on one language and get good at it or good at learning as i would never recommend learning more than two to someone else but aye everyone is different man

  • @LearntheRussianLanguage
    @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How do you like the sound compared to regular videos where I've got my microphone clipped to my shirt?

    • @135acer
      @135acer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Звук лучше, но смотрится интересно))..

  • @kalkor-gloss
    @kalkor-gloss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Completely agree.

  • @lilkimbu2817
    @lilkimbu2817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do agree with what you're saying but i believe this is different for everyone. While i do believe *most* people should focus on one or try two if they comfortable with being able to learn two. In my case i started of with one and eventually tried two and it was too hard (german and Spanish) so i just kept on learning german. Later on i had to learn french and drop german for specific reasons. Tho this is where my ability to learn multiple languages grew coincidentally. I was learning french and then because im from the Caribbean i was learning this creole and creoles are ridiculously easy (atleast for me) so i did it with french with no problem whatsoever and then i did dutch as well but it also didn't take up too much learning time because the grammar was so similar to german already so i had a headstart due to prior experience. Keep in mind that when i started to learn German, i basically found out a method self made that boost my language growth exponentially. I can converse really well and write paragraphs on end in both french and papiamento. Dutch i can to some degree. Its only been a couple of months for dutch and almost a year for french and papiamento. Even get praised for my learning paste but aye man not everyone is the same. I mean laoshu existed lmao.
    Edit: Also what you said for dividing time. I ironically spend 3 weeks ina month for french (french has a 3 year deadline which is comfortable for me) and 1 week per month for dutch which has no deadline whatsoever and im so young with years to live and learn but by the 3yr marker deadline for french, I would be b1+ or possibly beginning b2 in dutch while already at c1 for french, But even then i have so much more time with dutch and its gonna continue to grow so the level at that point may not even be the most important thing as french was the primary focus

  • @surrealistidealist
    @surrealistidealist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm so sorry, but I feel obligated to push back against so many of the points you made here, my friend.
    I do agree it's important to reach the conversational level as soon as possible. I also agree it's important not to get too overwhelmed and slowed down with too many languages at once.
    But I would instead recommend focusing on one language at a time while still becoming familiar with other languages, depending on each learner's interests, goals and opportunities.
    And while it's true that similar languages can get students mixed up, I think this is more of a problem that occurs mainly at the early stages, but this is almost never a big deal in the real world whenever it happens, at least not enough to out-weigh the benefits for most people.
    Also, the similarities between different languages can actually be great tools for using one language to familiarize yourself with another. Often, the total lack of familiarity can be the hardest part of beginning a new language. So having some familiarity can get us to the conversational level sooner!
    I also agree that there's an exponential growth curve that comes from fluency. However, I'd point out that there's also exponential growth with learning in general, even with learning one language after another, after another and so on. The first foreign language is typically the hardest. But the next one is typically easier, especially depending on how similar each language is to a previous one. You become better at being organized and disciplined, you develop systems that work in new contexts, and you learn how to change or discard parts of your system that aren't working for different languages. Anxiety goes down, confidence goes up.
    And we even learn more about ourselves and our learning environments as we age, so I wouldn't discourage older learners who want to try at any age.
    All that being said, thank you very much for your channel! I hope my comment gives you a nice algorithm boost!

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks for your comment! I think in general we are pretty much on the same line.
      "But I would instead recommend focusing on one language at a time while still becoming familiar with other languages, depending on each learner's interests, goals and opportunities."
      - Agree. That's why it's important to know what your main language is.
      "Also, the similarities between different languages can actually be great tools for using one language to familiarize yourself with another."
      - That's true. Knowing English makes Dutch much easier. But learning Dutch and German at the same time at relatively the same level isn't a very smart strategy. Pick what language is most important, get to a decent level in that, then continue with other similar languages.
      "The first foreign language is typically the hardest. But the next one is typically easier, especially depending on how similar each language is to a previous one. You become better at being organized and disciplined, you develop systems that work in new contexts, and you learn how to change or discard parts of your system that aren't working for different languages. Anxiety goes down, confidence goes up."
      - Again, 100% agree.
      "And we even learn more about ourselves and our learning environments as we age, so I wouldn't discourage older learners who want to try at any age."
      Yes, paired with the argument that as we age, language learning is a great way to keep the brain active, it makes sense to learn languages at any age.
      I think the main reason I made the video was for the people that watch a polyglot video, and then become overenthusiastic about learning several languages. Why not first focus on doing 1 thing at a decent level, and once you've learned what works, use that knowledge to add in another language.
      I'll end with a quote from Chekhov: за двумя зайцами погонишься, ни одного не поймаешь - If you run after two hares, you will catch neither.

  • @MT-eb9wl
    @MT-eb9wl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I totally agree with the polyglots ... I personally am fluent in 4 languages + intermediate in russian and find funny to see youtube polyglot videos who barely speak a language and claim it as theirs

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, it's funny. I understand where they come from as TH-cam is competitive and the more you claim, the more views you get though. Most of them are quite honest about their level though when they talk deeper about their language skills.

    • @MT-eb9wl
      @MT-eb9wl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LearntheRussianLanguage thank you for taking the time to answer and your videos, take great care ...

  • @mustafanaser9789
    @mustafanaser9789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think for the most people it is not possible to become fluent in one language learning many languages simultanously in e.g. 3-5 years like you said.
    But I think 0,0001 % or so in this world have specific talents in specific areas. Some of them might have a gift to get easily fluent and understand the principles of a specific language much faster than average people. But taking such very rare talents as examples for oneself's journey to learn a language or mutliple languages is not recommendable and could be frustrating. So everyone should focus on his personal abilities and should enjoy learning a language and not distract or disappoint himself from geniuses who are able to manage to learn languages very fast

  • @prinzessinmama7012
    @prinzessinmama7012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are so well-educated! Could you please tell us about your education: what have you studied, what is your job? Please tell us a few words about your way🤗❤️🌷

  • @EmilioAt77
    @EmilioAt77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ari, привет из Буэнос-Айреса (и это не шутка, кстати 😂). В этот раз, если честно, я полностью с тобой согласен! И тоже я хотел сказать что, когда ты посетишь Аргентину, yo invito las cervezas! 😁🍻 keep up the good work!

  • @Alltagundso
    @Alltagundso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do I want to be a polyglot?? Eehhh, I think it's too late for me with three foreign languages. But since I learned Polish and French I can just as well also add Russian and Spanish, but let's hear what you've got to say about this.

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I think adding those languages make sense, especially since you already know adjacent languages.

    • @Alltagundso
      @Alltagundso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@LearntheRussianLanguage Yes, totally. But what you got really wrong from my point of view is that people past 25 can't become a polyglot anymore. I mean, even if you die at 65 you still have 40 years to learn languages. I had 70 year old students that were eager and capable to learn languages and I know a man that started his training as an interpreter at 30 and made it to the European parliament in Brussels. 🤷🏽‍♀️☺️☺️

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alltagundso What I meant to say is that most people will probably not learn lots of extra languages after reaching adulthood. There will always be exceptions though, as some of my students have shown!

    • @Alltagundso
      @Alltagundso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LearntheRussianLanguage Oh, of course it is true that most people won't. But I would either explain why or just not mention it in the first place. The way you said it, without explanation sounds a bit discouraging. 😅
      The thing is, people are able to do it after 25, if they really want it. It's easier for children and teenagers to learn languages, but the reason adults don't learn languages that much is mostly, because they have other priorities, their career, family and such. Some also feel less motivated after years of school and studying at the university. 😊😊

    • @Alltagundso
      @Alltagundso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vogditis That sounds kind of deep. 😊

  • @bestintheworId
    @bestintheworId 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    is it normal when you're learning a language to have certain days where you can speak very fast, fluently, thinking directly in the language you're learning first, using advanced vocabulary, and then other days where you regress back to a mediocre speaker that speaks in rather basic and rigid sentences?

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I experienced that a lot too. That's why it's great to make audio recordings of yourself once a week or so. So you can listen back to how you spoke a couple of months ago and hear your progress.

  • @shrippie-4214
    @shrippie-4214 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to speak 3-4 languages well I might learn more just to translate stuff for my games
    currently learning Russian and Spanish been learning Russian for 8 months I'm alright at it, but have no one to talk to
    been learning Spanish for one day easiest thing in the world like playing Minecraft
    thing is I get bored of one language and its more fun for me to learn two at the same time
    right now I just want to be able to translate stuff in Spanish

  • @Kiyotaka_77
    @Kiyotaka_77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After 25 you can't learn foreign languages i think you should watch steve Kaufman he can speak 20 languages and most of them he learned after the age of 60 so in my opinion it's personal preference you should do what you enjoy if u enjoy learn 10 languages then go for it

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know! Great guy and inspiration. I did a full interview with him on my other channel: th-cam.com/video/aORUQi-SXiw/w-d-xo.html

  • @WesleyMears-l9j
    @WesleyMears-l9j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sometimes you don't have to learn or not really learning, but acquiring that language, perché alcuni volte persone trovano difficile, ma se hanno imparato qualcosa di latino, tutto la conoscenza in lingua come, Spagnolo, Rumeno, Francese, Portogallo, tuttavia il difficoltà è la persona loro non sanno la etimologia, inglese diverdere Latino, 60 %, dipende cosa ché, scienza e legge è più, ma Italiana mantenuto molto di più latino, adesso lingua di Slavic, è più lingua di Slavic quando conosci una lingua di Slavic è molto facile per altre in Slavic

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Italian is non existent, but I think I agree with you.

  • @orangotango9231
    @orangotango9231 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    completely agree having an a2 in many languages is just shit

  • @kenzyboghdady4559
    @kenzyboghdady4559 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have much time to learn languages kinda of 3 months, I wanna take advantage of this time , so I'm at B1 in English & A1 in French, so l wanna achieve at least B2 in English & A2 in French or more if it possible so is it normal to study them together with the same amount of time & if you have any advices for me I will be so glad ❤😊

  • @Alltagundso
    @Alltagundso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good points, but the video is a bit chaotic. 😂😂 Since it's only eight minutes it's fine though. 😊😊

  • @elel2608
    @elel2608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get being a polyglot for the sake of being one. If you don’t have a deep purpose for acquiring a language and don’t have a deep interest in the content of the language, you’re not gonna get far in the language. I tried this with Korean and dropped it after two years. Acquiring a language is a huge investment of time and life is too short to be spending time on a language you’re not that interested in.

  • @mayzavan
    @mayzavan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow I really cannot agree with Your video at al. Why would You call someone travelling in a foreign country, which language he doesn't know, a stupid tourist? What's the point? Some people enjoy learning languages - just because, no reason at all, what's wrong about that? And how being 25 is too late for becoming a polyglot? How? Some people get benefits from getting to know how to say hello in 2000 languages, some people get benefits from talking in one language fluently. Another thing I thought of is - how much easier it is to explain some concepts of one language using other languages, there are words in some languages that simply do not exist in some different languages. I would really like to emphasize the fact that a lot of people consider learning languages *a hobby*, or a fun way to spend part time. Which is great, considering they might also choose binge watching TV. And I cannot do anything else than appreciate that, and try to help those people as much as I can (as I do for example by spending quite a lot of time helping my Chinese friends to learn Polish - just giving an example because it did sound weird without context). Your video seems pretty damaging to my point of view and people that I admire for what they do and who they are. Also the situation You mentioned, and You should realize that Yourself, about mixing languages, is just funny. Nothing more. It's literally funny, every reaction in my life I saw to that happening was someone laughing. No one was ever harmed, or felt bad because of that, You gave an example and just after that had a small laugh about it. That's also where joy from learning languages comes. Don't get me wrong You state or point of view in a video and want to share it with people and share Your knowledge and experience, that's also my point here in this comment. I just want to broaden Your perspective. Of course You can disagree with me, but it's always worth to give someone's opinion a thought or two (probably?). Also, I might have also not met the same people as You did, but I think I have never encountered someone that learns languages to "become a polyglot". But that's just a side note. It's so ambiguous as if someone went to university to "become smart".? It's just something that comes along the way and can be considered some kind of achievement, but not really a goal. At least that's what I think.
    At last, thank You for taking time to reading my comment and good luck on growing Your channel

    • @LearntheRussianLanguage
      @LearntheRussianLanguage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha, the only person I call a stupid tourist is myself if I don't learn at least a couple of wordsof the language of the country I'm in - and learn something about the history and culture of the country.