Sustains seem hard to create since there's only so many ways you can have a character keep the team alive while ensuring it happens often enough that they'll be viable. And it's crazy just how universal Aventurine is. He can break, he can debuff, he can follow up attack, he can boost damage, he can deal damage... I have e1s1 Fu Xuan, and I've barely touched her since I got Aventurine. Fu Xuan gives more crit, but Aven just has so much utility it barely matters.
I wonder if aven is the reason why there hasn't been any preservations in awhile now. I have feeling he's less suceptible to powercreep unless they release a better version of him with even more extra utility since that's somewhat the gold standard for sustains these days in gacha games, i mean Verina didn't suffer as badly as standard banner unit compared to qiqi or bailu due to her buffs. Fu xuan is still going strong, but she does seem alittle more susceptible to powercreep since she hardly has BiS Team and mono quantum has fallen off.
im rooting for mr reca to be a 4 star preservation. im fairly convinced he'll be playable given the quality of his model compared to other more detailed npcs who still clearly cut corners by having flat textures instead of individually modeled clothes, but im kind of confused as to why he wasnt released in this patch or 2.7. its a bit odd to wait so long after a character debuts to make them playable, esp for a 4 star. i guess they just didnt want to give us another 4 star so soon after march and moze and want to space them out. great video!
Honestly! Nihility having more units weirdly makes sense on the archetype they made them a debuff support, Dot amplifiers and Dmg Dealers that require other Nihility units
Honestly even though Luocha doesnt have as much utility as the other sustains and people give him plenty of shit hes still viable and will have no problems solo sustaining your team. Super easy to use, almost never uses his skill, and extremely comfy. Honestly he gets more use than Gallagher on my teams
Good video! Funny how you keep shaming march 7th on being a bad solo sustain while there I was using her on the first AS as a toughness breaker and a freeze bot on a boothill team agaisnt argenti. Her sustain power isnt about her shields much, is more about her ult that can freeze the whole enemy team, the shield is just an extra protection for her e6 healing to thick. I dont use her anymore because, well, her hunt form is a much better character lol, but I wanted to mention since the video was about a brief history of sustain and you didn't mention freeze march at all
Luocha slander will not be tolerated! He’s basically the Zhongli of HSR, you literally don’t have to do anything and you live. He’s wonderful for casual players! You literally never have to use his skill. He’s the easiest and most consistent healer in the game. I love him.
Luocha is not forgotten. So far, one of the 2 units that can cleanse buffs from the enemies. And he is still a very good skill-points-positive unite. He is basic in his kit, yes, but I still think he will see the second life after a specific abundance set.
Me and the 16 other Luocha stans are upset at you for this video! Nah but seriously I still use him often along with FX. Past that I haven’t pulled on any new sustain as I feel both do a good enough job where I don’t feel the need to replace them.
While I'm not mad, I totally agree with you, Luocha hasn't leave my team since he came home, and with his E1 that I got from his rerun, he's Huohuo from wallmart
Luocha has been holding out plenty… only sustains I’ve got are him and FX (Gepard says hi from the bench) Waiting until they drop a sustain that does as much damage as Acheron to pull
I'd argue that most of M7's value as a sustain comes from her ultimate rather than her shielding abilities LMAO. Like with how easily you can spam her ultimate, it's possible to perma freeze enemies and never let them take their turn. To me, her shield and cleanse (and heals at m6) are like an emergency first aid kit that only needs to be used if and when enemies DO break through her freeze. In early sim uni shes especially broken with the remembrance path.
Well nihility consists of opposite harmony, Dot dmg dealers and normal dmg dealers. Only thing missing is break dmg dealers and by all means, break stat before miss fanservis chracter belonged to nihility. So no shit there are so many nihility characters. Like 3 paths are dmg dealers, 1 is buffer and 2 are sustain. While nihility kinda does it all. Can't wait for a limited 5 star version of welt where enemies just won't be able to take an action, ever. Sustain....
Sock talking about not having either Bailu or Gepard😶😶 in 1.0 but i am an f2p who got both of them and no 5 star attakers. They carried my account till Fu xan and Luocha join my team.
Not having a 4* preservation unit since released since launch is crazy (No, we don't count March, Hunt March is literally so much better that she's competitive in the meta) It probably has something to do with uptime. Since Aven can refresh his shields quite easily, he doesn't have to suffer as much with uptime unlike Gepard whose shield is tied to ult. Gepard needs energy to ult. There's a lot of action advance and SPD buff access (Messenger 4pc, Bronya/Sunday/Robin/Sparkle's existence, Ruan Mei's Talent, DDD Lightcone, etc.) and the shield will run out if the characters take too much turns. What they could do for a preservation sustain is do like what they did with Ruan Mei and Robin - the shield only expires when (1) It gets depleted or (2) *It ticks down on the sustain's turn.* That's how Fu Xuan's field works, however it is not a shield. 3.0 is coming, I am definitely seeing some kind of remembrance character whose memosprite provides you with a shield. Or a preservation unit that utilizes stacks instead of energy like Acheron or Feixiao, or someone with a double energy bar like Argenti and Yunli. It's really up to Hoyoverse. I wish there'd be a preservation unit that utilizes the Quake mechanic though. Or a preservation unit that quite literally deploys a wall and that wall is what shields the party from damage, kind of like the shield you get for breaking the Harmonious Choir (the Sunday boss) using skill or ult will repair that wall meaning more shields! That's a clever way to ensure that shield uptime isn't an issue, you just have to keep the wall alive.
As a never player (started at robin’s debut banner) i’ve been running preservation march has a solo sustain, she’s not that good, but you aren’t giving her enough credit, the follow-up team comp dealing a lot of dmg with fexiao and march getting 3 free follow-ups per round really help that team, obviously aventurine is better, but march is 2nd in that team imo. March can only shield on at a time, but her shield is so huge that its basically 100% of target’s max hp. You do need to be proactive though, so she needs to skill every turn, also her ult being able to freeze is a nice bonus, but every ennemy has freeze resist now. My march can manedge to keep me alive against the current holay moc 12 in a fart team (march replacing aventurine) don’t give me wrong though, i’m 100% pulling aventurine when he comes
I feel like there's an9tyer couple problems i have with preservation Like they're ftp cone options are weaker like abundance has things like multiplication QPQ and post op who are more like pouring gas on your party Preservation cones don't really have anything like that except trend for acheron And Gepard and alot of the preservation units feel like they're very relic reliant in ways that make them rough in the early game
Im at least a Dolphin if not even a small whale, but i didnt get Bailu till 2.1😂 I guess when it comes to 50/50 im pretty lucky, ive only lost like a hand full😁 And im playing almost since launch so…..😂
“For the five people that are still playing Wuthering Waves” …tell me you don’t know anything about the Wuthering Waves community without telling me you don’t know anything about the Wuthering Waves community haha (this is meant as a more light hearted jab- Wuthering Waves is still doing GREAT right now, and I’m a little tired of people pretending it’s not. Sincerely, someone who plays all three games and wishes people would stop bickering over them.)
(To be clear- there’s nothing wrong with not liking the game, or thinking it’s not as good- but implying it doesn’t have a lot of players as a subtle dig is just… false information haha. Again not trying to start a fight or anything- I get that it was exaggeration and not meant to be taken seriously. I just tend to think that jokes like that cause more fighting in the communities than needed- we should be bonding over losing our fifty fifties not sparking petty rivalry. :] Video was still very good tho, sorry for my long comments- or… not sorry? Do they help the algorithm-)
Imagine that by 2026 sustains in HSR will deal more damage than Feixiao and offer better buffs and debuffs than Ruan Mei.
that's what happened in DFFOO. When Garnet's surprise BT dropped in Global, her followup attack hit more often than many DPS characters at the time
Don’t worry we will instead get a new Ruan Mei with a carbon copy of her kit with higher scalings. Res Pen will be on skill
@@Antithesis_72 probably
Sustains seem hard to create since there's only so many ways you can have a character keep the team alive while ensuring it happens often enough that they'll be viable.
And it's crazy just how universal Aventurine is. He can break, he can debuff, he can follow up attack, he can boost damage, he can deal damage... I have e1s1 Fu Xuan, and I've barely touched her since I got Aventurine. Fu Xuan gives more crit, but Aven just has so much utility it barely matters.
I wonder if aven is the reason why there hasn't been any preservations in awhile now. I have feeling he's less suceptible to powercreep unless they release a better version of him with even more extra utility since that's somewhat the gold standard for sustains these days in gacha games, i mean Verina didn't suffer as badly as standard banner unit compared to qiqi or bailu due to her buffs. Fu xuan is still going strong, but she does seem alittle more susceptible to powercreep since she hardly has BiS Team and mono quantum has fallen off.
im rooting for mr reca to be a 4 star preservation. im fairly convinced he'll be playable given the quality of his model compared to other more detailed npcs who still clearly cut corners by having flat textures instead of individually modeled clothes, but im kind of confused as to why he wasnt released in this patch or 2.7. its a bit odd to wait so long after a character debuts to make them playable, esp for a 4 star. i guess they just didnt want to give us another 4 star so soon after march and moze and want to space them out. great video!
I loved him in the 2.6 story
It would be nice but Reca strikes me as the Screwllum type. To show up occasionally, do something or provide some context and be gone again.
Oh god please no, if he's a 4* preservation he'll be goddamn useless
isnt the person on the new 4* abundance lc on the banner currently mr reca? does that mean he will be playable?
@@athashin87yes
Honestly! Nihility having more units weirdly makes sense on the archetype they made them a debuff support, Dot amplifiers and Dmg Dealers that require other Nihility units
yeah Nihility has too many things going on in general. they could have made DOT into a whole separate class
I had both Bailu(Beginner Banner) and Gepard(lost on Seele Banner) on 1.0, made my Simulated Universe so much easier back then
Honestly even though Luocha doesnt have as much utility as the other sustains and people give him plenty of shit hes still viable and will have no problems solo sustaining your team. Super easy to use, almost never uses his skill, and extremely comfy. Honestly he gets more use than Gallagher on my teams
Good video! Funny how you keep shaming march 7th on being a bad solo sustain while there I was using her on the first AS as a toughness breaker and a freeze bot on a boothill team agaisnt argenti.
Her sustain power isnt about her shields much, is more about her ult that can freeze the whole enemy team, the shield is just an extra protection for her e6 healing to thick.
I dont use her anymore because, well, her hunt form is a much better character lol, but I wanted to mention since the video was about a brief history of sustain and you didn't mention freeze march at all
Luocha slander will not be tolerated! He’s basically the Zhongli of HSR, you literally don’t have to do anything and you live. He’s wonderful for casual players! You literally never have to use his skill. He’s the easiest and most consistent healer in the game. I love him.
You had a really great script this vid. very nice to listen to
It kinda sounds like you want to do a history of nihility units in Honkai Star Rail video 😅
might have to
P5 OST is the icing on the cake for any video
Luocha is not forgotten. So far, one of the 2 units that can cleanse buffs from the enemies. And he is still a very good skill-points-positive unite. He is basic in his kit, yes, but I still think he will see the second life after a specific abundance set.
Me and the 16 other Luocha stans are upset at you for this video! Nah but seriously I still use him often along with FX. Past that I haven’t pulled on any new sustain as I feel both do a good enough job where I don’t feel the need to replace them.
While I'm not mad, I totally agree with you, Luocha hasn't leave my team since he came home, and with his E1 that I got from his rerun, he's Huohuo from wallmart
Luocha has been holding out plenty… only sustains I’ve got are him and FX (Gepard says hi from the bench)
Waiting until they drop a sustain that does as much damage as Acheron to pull
I'd argue that most of M7's value as a sustain comes from her ultimate rather than her shielding abilities LMAO. Like with how easily you can spam her ultimate, it's possible to perma freeze enemies and never let them take their turn.
To me, her shield and cleanse (and heals at m6) are like an emergency first aid kit that only needs to be used if and when enemies DO break through her freeze. In early sim uni shes especially broken with the remembrance path.
6:18 HOLD UP HIS WRITING IS THIS FIRE?? 🗣️🗣️
Well nihility consists of opposite harmony, Dot dmg dealers and normal dmg dealers. Only thing missing is break dmg dealers and by all means, break stat before miss fanservis chracter belonged to nihility.
So no shit there are so many nihility characters. Like 3 paths are dmg dealers, 1 is buffer and 2 are sustain. While nihility kinda does it all.
Can't wait for a limited 5 star version of welt where enemies just won't be able to take an action, ever. Sustain....
the history in 2 lines:
standard banner sustains - Luocha Lynx and Fu Xuan - Huo Huo - Aventurine - Lingsha
Sock talking about not having either Bailu or Gepard😶😶 in 1.0 but i am an f2p who got both of them and no 5 star attakers. They carried my account till Fu xan and Luocha join my team.
I lost my first 50/50 to Bailu and she was a big help at the time...now though...uhhh not so much.
@@sockgolem she was my pillar and have passed on her legacy to might I say broken units when we suspect them to heal not kill
Not having a 4* preservation unit since released since launch is crazy (No, we don't count March, Hunt March is literally so much better that she's competitive in the meta)
It probably has something to do with uptime. Since Aven can refresh his shields quite easily, he doesn't have to suffer as much with uptime unlike Gepard whose shield is tied to ult. Gepard needs energy to ult. There's a lot of action advance and SPD buff access (Messenger 4pc, Bronya/Sunday/Robin/Sparkle's existence, Ruan Mei's Talent, DDD Lightcone, etc.) and the shield will run out if the characters take too much turns.
What they could do for a preservation sustain is do like what they did with Ruan Mei and Robin - the shield only expires when (1) It gets depleted or (2) *It ticks down on the sustain's turn.* That's how Fu Xuan's field works, however it is not a shield.
3.0 is coming, I am definitely seeing some kind of remembrance character whose memosprite provides you with a shield. Or a preservation unit that utilizes stacks instead of energy like Acheron or Feixiao, or someone with a double energy bar like Argenti and Yunli. It's really up to Hoyoverse.
I wish there'd be a preservation unit that utilizes the Quake mechanic though. Or a preservation unit that quite literally deploys a wall and that wall is what shields the party from damage, kind of like the shield you get for breaking the Harmonious Choir (the Sunday boss) using skill or ult will repair that wall meaning more shields! That's a clever way to ensure that shield uptime isn't an issue, you just have to keep the wall alive.
Welt was my sustain for most of version 1.0 to 2.0
As a never player (started at robin’s debut banner) i’ve been running preservation march has a solo sustain, she’s not that good, but you aren’t giving her enough credit, the follow-up team comp dealing a lot of dmg with fexiao and march getting 3 free follow-ups per round really help that team, obviously aventurine is better, but march is 2nd in that team imo. March can only shield on at a time, but her shield is so huge that its basically 100% of target’s max hp. You do need to be proactive though, so she needs to skill every turn, also her ult being able to freeze is a nice bonus, but every ennemy has freeze resist now. My march can manedge to keep me alive against the current holay moc 12 in a fart team (march replacing aventurine) don’t give me wrong though, i’m 100% pulling aventurine when he comes
You also forgot that Galagher deals half the dmg of a 5 star main dps in super break teams because he can.
I got both baliu and Gepand and Yanqing in my beginniners banner and I felt like a god back the
unironically my first 3 5stars were bailu, clara and gepard (lost the first 50/50 in game on seele 😭)
I feel like there's an9tyer couple problems i have with preservation
Like they're ftp cone options are weaker like abundance has things like multiplication QPQ and post op who are more like pouring gas on your party
Preservation cones don't really have anything like that except trend for acheron
And Gepard and alot of the preservation units feel like they're very relic reliant in ways that make them rough in the early game
Here before you make it big
here's hoping
Im at least a Dolphin if not even a small whale, but i didnt get Bailu till 2.1😂 I guess when it comes to 50/50 im pretty lucky, ive only lost like a hand full😁 And im playing almost since launch so…..😂
blade rerun blade rerun
I will not stand for this bailu slander. She was my first 5 star and that rez comes in clutch for my main dps at the time.
So what I’m hearing is, just get e6 Luocha. Easy
decent overview, but i had to downvote for the paimon slander
(jk)
screw these characters GIVE ME MY BLADEEE BLADIE COME HOME PLEASE I NEED U E6S5 I'LL SELL MY WHOLE HOUSE AND ALL MY ORGANS FOR U BLADIE ANYTHING FOR U
“For the five people that are still playing Wuthering Waves” …tell me you don’t know anything about the Wuthering Waves community without telling me you don’t know anything about the Wuthering Waves community haha (this is meant as a more light hearted jab- Wuthering Waves is still doing GREAT right now, and I’m a little tired of people pretending it’s not. Sincerely, someone who plays all three games and wishes people would stop bickering over them.)
(To be clear- there’s nothing wrong with not liking the game, or thinking it’s not as good- but implying it doesn’t have a lot of players as a subtle dig is just… false information haha. Again not trying to start a fight or anything- I get that it was exaggeration and not meant to be taken seriously. I just tend to think that jokes like that cause more fighting in the communities than needed- we should be bonding over losing our fifty fifties not sparking petty rivalry. :] Video was still very good tho, sorry for my long comments- or… not sorry? Do they help the algorithm-)
@@saraiknowsit no worries, I will be pulling Camellya
@@sockgolemOh good luck on your 50/50! Bring the crazy flower lady home! 🎉