I liked the salesman. When asked if the magazine is expensive, he said it is, not sugarcoating it. Not the most well prepared, but not just sugarcoating stuff to sell it.
He is probably well prepared and chances are that he speak 2 - 4 languages as well. The thing is that we can't expect everybody to speak english as their primary or secondary language.
@@Gieszkanne Some questions he struggled a bit, but as I said, I liked him and his honesty. Just some hiccups (honestly could be just because of speaking a foreign language).
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too. The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves. They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese. Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it. Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster. You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered. There are many videos here on TH-cam of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced. Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
These gun conventions in Europe are torture to us Americans, knowing that it'll take them years to make these weapons available to us, if our states don't start putting magazine restrictions and shark fins on our pistol grips by then.
The mag tube is canceled out for the detachable mags on these type of shotguns. If they could figure out a way to carry 5 in the tube and 5 in the mag it would be revolutionary
@@Heisenbrick No, when it comes to 12 gauge you're better off with box mags. Remember, you're essentially dealing with a rimmed cartridge so loading them into a drum mag creates logistical problems with the design. It can be done, but it's far more difficult and expensive. Not to mention the fact that drum mags are just more complicated in general, and there for less reliable than box mags. Also, it's way easier and less cumbersome to carry multiple box mags on your person than drum. There's also the issue of this pistols dimensions and length which look as though it would be kind of hard to operate the pump with a drum in the middle, but I'm only guessing on that part.
@kilgor5793 I would not say horrible. Peoplle both here and overseas claim it works. Main differrnces are a forged steel receiver amd some grittiness here and there. Nothing that can't be solved by use. Even the trigger housing is metal, while Remington has been using plastic for a while.
@@TheHiddenPart The only thing I have ever heard that goes in that direction was, that the SigSauer 226 clone from Norinco had better steel quality. But this doesnt mean that the actual machining/manufacturing is better. Not at all.
Yeah, I could see the 'hero' installing one of those cheesy looking D-shaped pump handles on one of them (like in From Dusk 'Til Dawn) and the 'hero' could insert the other shotgun through the handle and wield and fire them like a cross; simultaneously for a few scenes.
SDM also makes 5/600€ AKs and ARs with pure chinesium quality. A friend of mines changes them every competition season because it cheaper than taking care of them and you can use corrosive ammo without feel guilty
@@InvidiousIgnoramus considering that on the used market they still are around 400-450€ mark you don't loose that much, he transfers all the accessories
I do have one. Video is on my channel. The spokesperson for Prima Armi doesn't know or care but mags and inteenals are interchangeable with Hawk clones and Canadian Grizzly models. They're literally the same product and readily available. Quality wise, the base model with side folding stock and 18" barrel has been spotted in chinese police hands during lockdown. Shooting it is a handful. Swapping the 80s era pistol grip for a Birdshead grip such as a Raptor deletes half the felt recoil, yet you got to use it ANGRILY. It's a man's gun. And it breathes THUNDER and FIRE. If being given the choice I'd gone for a Serbu Super Shorty replica, the box mag is just silly.
I am French and shotguns are authorized for sports shooters with and without stripes. The length of the barrel can pose problems for us, I'm not too sure about it.
This weapon in 20 guage would be more manageable and still be good home defense in a buckshot load . might even give you 1-2 more rds in the magazine .plus it would be a good snake charmer in rattle snake country
Oh James is just effing drooling on this thing, you know he wants to run 500 rounds of the heaviest buck shot through it in under 30 min. Why do you think he asked about the mags?? 😂😂 .
i love that. box mag pump shotties dont make a ton of sense to me typically because you still have the shell tube there just doing nothing, here however that mag is holding far more than the tiny little tube ever could. sick af little shorty
SDM (basically, like Norinco, a bunch of Chinese factories distributing under one brand name) make decent stuff. Their AKs are not the prettiest, but they work, are cheap and durable. They also make that 1887 clone.
basically a Serbu Super-Shorty thats mag fed and completely made in china. the only reason you cant have that in the usa is because of the % of parts law that says that a % of the gun parts have to be made in the usa. a company could buy them and swap out parts and sell them in the usa if they wanted to. but i dont think there is really a market for them here. if there was, serbu would still be making the shorty. we can even buy them in IL because they are considered a AOW and not a short barreled shotgun.
9” that’s massive absolutely way longer then anything anyone could ever have or need a average 3-4” is more then enough for anyone to handle honestly that’s even to much length
That clip fed shotgun is why I told a dude on Honest Outlaws channel why I would make a triple barrel shotgun a sawed off, today a brand new gun is quite expensive, a decade it could be cheaper or discontinued, but in all certainty a new model "future" weapon will render old model's outdated.
Looks fun. Those are a definite "pay to play" item. My buddy has a Serbu Super Shorty that's lots of fun. You'd be surprised how much fun you can have with 3 rounds. 😁
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too. The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves. They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese. Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it. Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster. You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered. There are many videos here on TH-cam of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced. Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
We've had them here before under norinco grizzly name in both tube and mag fed. In 8", 14.5", 18.5". The only difference is ours used to come with full stocks and no top rail.
@@dillonchamberlain Not sure if this would technically class as a pistol here. Theres this weird gap in the law where manually operated action that require two hands arent necessarily "handguns" if they come from the factory in said configuration.
@@karm42yn not much sadly, but a good deal of our current bans are via OIC (think something like an executive order) so there is still a narrow chance they could be beaten in court or just not codified into law should an election come soon and flip current government.
From France : pump action shotguns with a smooth bore are not harder to get than a semi auto rifle. It just takes time (6 months of practice in a shooting sport association) and paperwork to have one. The rifled bore pump action shotguns of 4+1 capacity are available for any hunter or any one who subscribed to a shooting sport association (without the papework).
A great neat interesting video and shotguns Mr.James.This is not how I imagine chop sticks. Do you prefer this SDM Remington nock off or the Mossberg Nightstick?Make a video about it. Is this short shotgun made of steel or aluminum? Is it like "the kom pao chicken made of a cat?"Have a good one.
I was surprised when James dropped the mic in reaction to the 299 Euros price. When this shotgun reaches our shores. It may even be less expensive than the European price since guns from China are affordable here. The pistols sold here by Norinco are of good quality
@@DH-xw6jp TFBTV left a comment on here about a US manufacturer putting these together. If that happened, then maybe... but it would be a lot more than $300.
In Argentina for example that gun would be forbidden because its a short barrel shotgun and it doesn't have a stock but "pistol caliber" pistols (they are categorized by their caliber) are free for civilian use and you can buy a stockless MPX without much trouble if you can afford it and have a normal civilian license (the license costs about 50 bucks, you have to take a gun handling test and a psychological exam). And after the fact you can buy a stock for it and no one bats an eye because attachments for pistols are not considered "re-manufacturing" as long as you don't have to physically modify the original gun (cutting, welding, changing original parts, etc) and it's reversible. Also you can make/buy and install any carbine kit for a pistol and it's completely legal as long as you install it on a legally purchased pistol (Although if the kit is imported it has to be approved by the state). What i meant to say is that gun laws throughout the world are generally nonsensical and they don't really accomplish anything apart from creating a bureaucratic mess that arbitrarily forbids or regulates certain weapons over others.
That thing is FREAK'N AWESOME !!! I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to have that in hostile/dangerous environments like Porltland/Seattle/SanFran/LA/NY/Chirak/Atlanta...I mean,er, uh, Alaska Montana !!!
Love to see this with a conversion to the birds head grip. Also at this point why not make a pump from scratch that doesn't incorporate a tube you dont need with a heat shield. . .
This looks like a fun range toy. To make things more interesting you can even bet with your friends what you will lose first: the front teeth or a finger…
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 ya know I was gonna say they aren't that bad(a super shorty Serbu anyway) 3 inch is definitely a handful but reading this statement I have to agree with ya 😁yep a lot of the doofuses that buy this are gonna spend a lot of time picking it up off the ground.
I liked the salesman. When asked if the magazine is expensive, he said it is, not sugarcoating it. Not the most well prepared, but not just sugarcoating stuff to sell it.
He is probably well prepared and chances are that he speak 2 - 4 languages as well. The thing is that we can't expect everybody to speak english as their primary or secondary language.
Ho do you came to the idea he was not prepared? Maybe its just european to be more honest and not sugarcoating things!
Beats “oh it’s affordable.” Being like 50 bucks+ a mag
@@Gieszkanne Some questions he struggled a bit, but as I said, I liked him and his honesty. Just some hiccups (honestly could be just because of speaking a foreign language).
@@Jtoob-z5n 🤣 I've literally been in a argument, someone was say $2,300 was affordable.
damn for $300 every person I know would have at least two of these
It is a killer price.2xin leg holsters instead of an MP7.
I'll pack this on my lunch box every day
@@notchipotle Who knows how the barbecue sauce affects this firearm?
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too.
The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves.
They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese.
Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it.
Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster.
You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered.
There are many videos here on TH-cam of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced.
Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
@@dreadnaughttactical Thank you. What for do you find 8.5inch shot guns useful in Canada?
These gun conventions in Europe are torture to us Americans, knowing that it'll take them years to make these weapons available to us, if our states don't start putting magazine restrictions and shark fins on our pistol grips by then.
literally just build a mossberg 590m as a pistol and itll be better than this chinesium piece of junk
Copy the concepts and make them yourself
There is a manufacturer in the US who will have a working prototype of this gun in 2023.
@@smokingcrab2290 Not everyone on this channel is a full fledged gunsmith. A lot of us are enthusiasts of some kind.
now you know how it is for europeans to watch US shows lol
Interesting idea, the main problem with those master keys was always the lack of capacity. External mag fixes that issue.
Especially if you get a double stack 12. gauge box mag like what moss berg was trying a few years back...
The mag tube is canceled out for the detachable mags on these type of shotguns. If they could figure out a way to carry 5 in the tube and 5 in the mag it would be revolutionary
Already been done, look up M26 MASS
Small drum mag would make this great!
@@Heisenbrick No, when it comes to 12 gauge you're better off with box mags. Remember, you're essentially dealing with a rimmed cartridge so loading them into a drum mag creates logistical problems with the design. It can be done, but it's far more difficult and expensive. Not to mention the fact that drum mags are just more complicated in general, and there for less reliable than box mags. Also, it's way easier and less cumbersome to carry multiple box mags on your person than drum. There's also the issue of this pistols dimensions and length which look as though it would be kind of hard to operate the pump with a drum in the middle, but I'm only guessing on that part.
Thats pretty sweet.
If it's a true 870 clone I would definitely replace as many small parts as possible first.
No need to, actual cinese production is superior to Remington parts.
@kilgor5793 I would not say horrible. Peoplle both here and overseas claim it works.
Main differrnces are a forged steel receiver amd some grittiness here and there. Nothing that can't be solved by use. Even the trigger housing is metal, while Remington has been using plastic for a while.
@Kilgor bullshit. It's well known that the IAC Hawk\ Chinese copies are better than the newer American made 870s.
@@TheHiddenPart The only thing I have ever heard that goes in that direction was, that the SigSauer 226 clone from Norinco had better steel quality. But this doesnt mean that the actual machining/manufacturing is better. Not at all.
That 💩 will probably explode anyway🤷
That’s the kind of gun that a 80’s movie hero would dual wield, pump action and all… 😅
Chuck Norris can work both pumps simultaneously with his beard and he'll never run out of ammo
💯
Yeah, I could see the 'hero' installing one of those cheesy looking D-shaped pump handles on one of them (like in From Dusk 'Til Dawn) and the 'hero' could insert the other shotgun through the handle and wield and fire them like a cross; simultaneously for a few scenes.
Hell Yeah
Looks just like Ricardo Tubbs Serbu Super Shorty from Miami Vice
SDM also makes 5/600€ AKs and ARs with pure chinesium quality. A friend of mines changes them every competition season because it cheaper than taking care of them and you can use corrosive ammo without feel guilty
It would be even cheaper still to, you know, buy a quality AK that would last more than a couple seasons.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus considering that on the used market they still are around 400-450€ mark you don't loose that much, he transfers all the accessories
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Corrosive ammo is pretty freakin cheap
@@InvidiousIgnoramus we have them. We have more than you Imagine.
I do have one. Video is on my channel.
The spokesperson for Prima Armi doesn't know or care but mags and inteenals are interchangeable with Hawk clones and Canadian Grizzly models. They're literally the same product and readily available.
Quality wise, the base model with side folding stock and 18" barrel has been spotted in chinese police hands during lockdown.
Shooting it is a handful. Swapping the 80s era pistol grip for a Birdshead grip such as a Raptor deletes half the felt recoil, yet you got to use it ANGRILY. It's a man's gun. And it breathes THUNDER and FIRE.
If being given the choice I'd gone for a Serbu Super Shorty replica, the box mag is just silly.
We had these norinco in Canada for years! I call them thumb blasters. They use to sell for $400, mags around 35$
That's crazy. Same price as a 1911 in the states.
@@SkylorBeck lmao what
@@Jtoob-z5n Rock Island 1911A1 is about $400 USD.
@@SkylorBeck that’s one of the shittiest 1911s on the market. An average 1911 is more like $800-$1500 for “normal” production 1911s.
@@enzoswoodshop1052 I didn't say a "good 1911". A bad gun is still a gun. All guns kill people.
That mic drop was so legit aaaaah I feel for you brother.
Super happy they have that adjustable rear sight. You never know when you may need to rain down on that 300 yarder!
This would make a great Mother's Day present.
Can't wait to get a drop leg holster for it
>chinesium
-5
>proprietary mags
-1
>no higher capacity mags, 5rds is all you get
-1
>each mag costs $60
-10
who is this marketed towards
Euro police
as a compact breacher for police and for home defense for citizens as its considered a pistol and thus easier to get
Recreational shooters
Muricans
@@Genesis23OPB Magnesium? Are you trying to burn the door down?
This adds a whole new dimension to the declaration..."SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!"
I am French and shotguns are authorized for sports shooters with and without stripes. The length of the barrel can pose problems for us, I'm not too sure about it.
This weapon in 20 guage would be more manageable and still be good home defense in a buckshot load . might even give you 1-2 more rds in the magazine .plus it would be a good snake charmer in rattle snake country
In Austria pump guns are not allowed either. That often makes me sad as a citizen of Austria , but semi-automatics are allowed.
Life is good
Not only is it a pump action, but it's also way too short for Austria. 😭
@@ShootAUT So true.
Oh James is just effing drooling on this thing, you know he wants to run 500 rounds of the heaviest buck shot through it in under 30 min. Why do you think he asked about the mags?? 😂😂 .
i love that. box mag pump shotties dont make a ton of sense to me typically because you still have the shell tube there just doing nothing, here however that mag is holding far more than the tiny little tube ever could. sick af little shorty
faster reload and weight is distributed closer to the middle
Mossberg better write this down for a new 590 variant.
SDM (basically, like Norinco, a bunch of Chinese factories distributing under one brand name) make decent stuff.
Their AKs are not the prettiest, but they work, are cheap and durable. They also make that 1887 clone.
basically a Serbu Super-Shorty thats mag fed and completely made in china. the only reason you cant have that in the usa is because of the % of parts law that says that a % of the gun parts have to be made in the usa.
a company could buy them and swap out parts and sell them in the usa if they wanted to. but i dont think there is really a market for them here. if there was, serbu would still be making the shorty. we can even buy them in IL because they are considered a AOW and not a short barreled shotgun.
Ah James always showing us the forbidden fruit!!! Damn you speedo man James!!!! Btw everyone knows James to be a proud Speedo man.
9” that’s massive absolutely way longer then anything anyone could ever have or need a average 3-4” is more then enough for anyone to handle honestly that’s even to much length
I've heard the exact same... Undeniable FACTS 💯 😁
Well ya can always hold it an only use a few inches
But you'll still get made fun of if you have less than 9"
20+ round drum mag would make this a staple. You'd become a walking claymore carrying this thing lol.
That clip fed shotgun is why I told a dude on Honest Outlaws channel why I would make a triple barrel shotgun a sawed off, today a brand new gun is quite expensive, a decade it could be cheaper or discontinued, but in all certainty a new model "future" weapon will render old model's outdated.
That’s a DLCc weapon right there
I have a long version SDM m870 and i am very satisfied. I only have it for defense. Resilience fascinates me. I need real tools 😉
He used centimeters! Numbers that finally make sense! 🙀
A great interesting video and shotgun.This shorty is great for tucking in a shorts along with some eggs and noodles and olive oil.
That would be perfect for a car/truck/home shotgun... I'm happy w/ my Rock Island shotgun mag fed w/ ghost sights...
Looks fun. Those are a definite "pay to play" item. My buddy has a Serbu Super Shorty that's lots of fun. You'd be surprised how much fun you can have with 3 rounds. 😁
Their website says only 300 euros
@@ahomicidaltaco well that's good then. 👍🏻
James, you are such a skillful interviewer. It’s very impressive.
You're fucking joking right?
@@jasonweiss2773 why do you ask?
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too.
The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves.
They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese.
Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it.
Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster.
You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered.
There are many videos here on TH-cam of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced.
Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
I can't wait to add loops on the pump so I can dual wield them!
The kickback gotta be insane , it’s 🔥tho
The mic drop was pure gold!!!! 🤙
The ultimate "get off me" ankle gun!
I had a Laramie brand pump squirt gun just like this in the late 80's. Well not just like it, it had a wicked neon green and orange paint job.
I'm doubtful we will see this hit Canadian shelves but I love the look and concept of it
We've had them here before under norinco grizzly name in both tube and mag fed. In 8", 14.5", 18.5". The only difference is ours used to come with full stocks and no top rail.
I'm out of the loop but is there barely anything that's allowed on Canadian shelves anymore?
Didn’t Canada ban all pistols…
@@dillonchamberlain Not sure if this would technically class as a pistol here.
Theres this weird gap in the law where manually operated action that require two hands arent necessarily "handguns" if they come from the factory in said configuration.
@@karm42yn not much sadly, but a good deal of our current bans are via OIC (think something like an executive order) so there is still a narrow chance they could be beaten in court or just not codified into law should an election come soon and flip current government.
I want to see something on that 1887 looking-a-like gun.
These gunshows outside of the US shows how "freedom" is defined
That's like a sawed off with a mag 😂
Demonstrated Concepts would love this.
Now that lil beauty looks like a ton of fun 👍🏼
I would buy in a heartbeat!
Thank you for your service
Hurricane Butterfly brought these in to the US as the Typhoon 12. They had them as AOW or SBS. It's the Hawk Type 97-1.
About time someone did this
My wrist hurts looking at this.
We need more minishells in production and we need more mags and adapters to use them. The minishells concept needs to be adopted more.
Which sub compact shotgun can we buy in America???
Shotgun handgun is crazy❤❤❤
That gun needs to be copied, and have a 12 shot magazine, and possibly more, that's the best defensive weapon to have at home.
From France : pump action shotguns with a smooth bore are not harder to get than a semi auto rifle. It just takes time (6 months of practice in a shooting sport association) and paperwork to have one. The rifled bore pump action shotguns of 4+1 capacity are available for any hunter or any one who subscribed to a shooting sport association (without the papework).
Shouldn't need any of that nonsense to own them
Master Key Material right there!
Well that sucks the interview started off good and then we find out we can't get it, great job guys...
I’m glad we have the 2nd you the thing you know the thing ! So our rights are not infringed on and we can bear these arms . Amen 🙏
We have some lawsuits to file before we get our second amendment back.
That’s a dream gun I didn’t even know existed.
Those gunsmiths were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
Gun engineers
@@socialmedia5534 Gun engineers don't think about what they're creating. They get an idea and make it. Leave the legislation to everyone else.
A great neat interesting video and shotguns Mr.James.This is not how I imagine chop sticks. Do you prefer this SDM Remington nock off or the Mossberg Nightstick?Make a video about it. Is this short shotgun made of steel or aluminum? Is it like "the kom pao chicken made of a cat?"Have a good one.
That mic drop was hilarious!!
I was surprised when James dropped the mic in reaction to the 299 Euros price. When this shotgun reaches our shores. It may even be less expensive than the European price since guns from China are affordable here. The pistols sold here by Norinco are of good quality
It looks shorter than 26 inches, so you can tack on at least an extra $200 I would think.
This gun (in this configuration) is unlikely to ever reach the US.
@@DH-xw6jp TFBTV left a comment on here about a US manufacturer putting these together. If that happened, then maybe... but it would be a lot more than $300.
looks like a good solid breaching shotgun
DOES IT ALLOW MINI SHELLS?
The shotgun I never knew I needed. I’m calling in Crowd Control
In Argentina for example that gun would be forbidden because its a short barrel shotgun and it doesn't have a stock but "pistol caliber" pistols (they are categorized by their caliber) are free for civilian use and you can buy a stockless MPX without much trouble if you can afford it and have a normal civilian license (the license costs about 50 bucks, you have to take a gun handling test and a psychological exam). And after the fact you can buy a stock for it and no one bats an eye because attachments for pistols are not considered "re-manufacturing" as long as you don't have to physically modify the original gun (cutting, welding, changing original parts, etc) and it's reversible. Also you can make/buy and install any carbine kit for a pistol and it's completely legal as long as you install it on a legally purchased pistol (Although if the kit is imported it has to be approved by the state).
What i meant to say is that gun laws throughout the world are generally nonsensical and they don't really accomplish anything apart from creating a bureaucratic mess that arbitrarily forbids or regulates certain weapons over others.
Maybe Harbor Freight will eventually get into the firearms business.
That would be epic!
@@oni_goroshi Chicago pneumatic “typewriter”
Those sights......thanks for the giggle. LOL
He asked the price of the gun he said 299 euro my man threw the mic LMAO 😂 😂
Lieutenant Tubbs would definitely approve.
I'm buying it. With folding stock it's going be nice little shotgun
Lmfao every time the guy goes mmhmmm i fast fowarded it to be greeted by another mmhmm
That thing is FREAK'N AWESOME !!!
I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to have that in hostile/dangerous environments like Porltland/Seattle/SanFran/LA/NY/Chirak/Atlanta...I mean,er, uh, Alaska Montana !!!
I like it don't get me wrong it looks sick but I'll stick with the shockwave
Love to see this with a conversion to the birds head grip. Also at this point why not make a pump from scratch that doesn't incorporate a tube you dont need with a heat shield. . .
This looks like a fun range toy.
To make things more interesting you can even bet with your friends what you will lose first: the front teeth or a finger…
Great for “picking” locks on doors. 🤓
😂😂😂
Neither if you learn to shoot and only do it sober
@@evocati6523 you are asking too much of the average guy that would buy a gun like this.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 ya know I was gonna say they aren't that bad(a super shorty Serbu anyway) 3 inch is definitely a handful but reading this statement I have to agree with ya 😁yep a lot of the doofuses that buy this are gonna spend a lot of time picking it up off the ground.
Sweet little breacher. Would be perfect on a magnet attached to a plate carrier
God bless whoever designed that
Looks like a rebranded, shortened hawk 981/982 with a magazine adapter added.
The what??
I love it 😊
Built a chrome 12g = 50cal pistol exposed hammer/a beast.cut heaps of fire wood.devastating to shoot.choice.T800Aust
Just cause he was honest I’d buy it if I could 🤣
Sweet as hell dude
What a tease
Made with the best antimony steel available 😁
dude it if it can get through the mag i wouldnt care. i'd keep that shit under my driver seat
@@SmokesKwazukii especially for $300, have 2 just in case
need this in US .... perfect for home defense
This is so beautiful! I wish 🇺🇸 had these 😫
I thought Turkish shotguns put fear in me then now you bring us to Chinese shotguns. I think I’m going to rock myself to sleep tonight
Everyone else seeing the gun in profile knows that a rotary 10rd drum mag would have made it perfect
I'll buy one right now with a rotary drum...
Cool looking shotgun.
Didn't Ian do a review on this for Pistols of the Warlords 😂
Great gun for breaching doors and close quarter combat....room to room, door to door. Ukraine could use this in Bakhmut about now.
I would love to have that
Wow! I want three of those so bad!
I love the foreign content!!!!
Really? So, what would you use it for? If, this is an import, I can't see the ATF or the Port and Customs Authorities going for this one?
Nice
Oh no, we don't have access to sporterized chinesium knock-offs.
That sucks.
That would be awesome in 45/410 as a pistol.