I also really like how Gentileschi almost always depicted the women in her paintings with fierce expressions, unlike many male artists who tended to depict women as gentle and docile. Also, John talked about the difficulty of expressing pain in one of his recent videos and I do think Frida Kahlo is an example of someone who was really good at bridging the pain empathy gap. Her paintings are so powerful that by looking at them I felt like it was the closest thing I could ever get to being able to feel someone else's pain.
That's a quote from Shakespear, Cassius, a Roman nobleman, uttered this phrase when he was talking to his friend, Brutus, in Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar. The phrase goes, “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” (Julius Caesar, Act I, Scene III, L. 140-141).
I'm an elementary school librarian and one of my favorite interactions when I was asked for a book was this: A kid who is an english language learner said they wanted a book about 'this artist lady who was married to a big fat man artist and..." then they motioned to their eyebrows and I was like FRIDA KAHLO!
I live in Japan and I've been very lucky to see a lot of Kusama's works up close. You should definitely come and do an art trip in Naoshima (the art island) and Kanazawa (which is near where I live and has a vibrant art culture and some of the most amazing art I've ever experienced) and Nagoya had an art museum displaying some of her work too (but I'm partial to Naoshima and Kanazawa). I think her work really speaks to uniformity that Japan strives for, but also, at the same time, the desire to be individual and stand out. This is, of course, a human thing and not just something specific to Japan (the urge to both fit in and stand out), but in Japan it's something that is kind of central to the culture. Here there's a strange battle and harmony between old and new, giri and hone (social obligation and one's real wants), the transient and the permanent, and the individual and the group can be seen in almost all works of art and when I see Kusama's work, I think of how she shaped and reflects the Japanese culture so well. It's bold and beautiful and distinctly her own, but also somewhat disconcerting in its uniformity. I think she's succeeded in her goal of shaping a more beautiful world to live in while also commenting on the world we live in. I have the same goal. I have no desire to be alive, but for to make this sad, cruel world less sad and less cruel. I am not sure how to do it, but I am trying. But speaking to the larger theme of the video, I have to agree with Simone de Beauvoir. It's not fair that women have to be fierce to make it, and even then maybe not even be recognized until after they die. Why do I always have to be a woman first and a person second? I don't even want to be a woman. I don't want to be a man either, but I just want to be a person who does beautiful things for the world and it would be nice to be recognized for the work I do and to not always have the credit go to men (or to only be given credit after I die...). So, I have to respectfully disagree with you that we shouldn't have all female (or rather non-male, as trans and non-cis people should be included) art exhibits. I think centering the works of the oppressed and underrepresented is very important. There's an academic whom I'd admire who is a part of the intersectional vegan feminist movement who has decided to take on the project of only quoting, citing, and praising female vegans (and especially women of color) publicly when talking about veganism as a social justice movement for animal rights, because so often in the movement men are quoted and celebrated and held up as leaders, even though they are a very small percentage of our movement, and even though they often took women's ideas without giving them credit. I will studying philosophy starting this August and there's a professor who cites himself and other males as founders of the modern animal rights movement, which is just so far removed from reality it hurts. Especially, because he doesn't really actually stand for animal rights at all... So I think all museums should take on the challenge of only displaying women's works sometime, they shouldn't advertise "HEY WE'RE AWESOME BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE WOMEN'S WORK HERE," but instead they should find truly great work of women, especially women of color or other oppressed groups of people. It's been only men for so long that I think big museums should only have women's works for a while (or at least mostly women's works for a while).
+Dead Philosopher Two things: 1) Naoshima is on my bucket list and I WILL get there eventually and hopefully soon!, and more importantly 2) I think I could have said this better, but I do think all-women artists shows should happen. It's just that I agree with you that museums should just have the great shows by women artists and not necessarily publicize that the creators are women. So we agree :).
The Art Assignment I think you'll love Naoshima! (Book really far in advance so that you can stay in one of the yurts on the beach!) Please try to make it to Kanazawa's 21st century museum as well. It's a bit off the beaten path, but every time I got there (which is fairly often), there's something new and interesting. The last time I was there I saw an amazing play called "It's Dark Outside" by a group called "The Last Great Hunt" (They're going to the US soon and I think you'd love it if you get a chance to see them) and there was an exhibition by an undocumented South Korean worker dressed in a bunny suit, which is really bold for him to do since Japan and Korea currently have a tense relationship (to put it mildly). Please come within the next 2 months. I'm leaving (because my visa expires) in August! You'll get to see President Obama too, who will go to Hiroshima. My family will be here about that time visiting, so I would be completely overjoyed to see Obama, you, and my family at once. That would be really cool and would make up for the fact that I haven't met Ambassador Caroline Kennedy yet! And sorry for the misunderstanding! I am glad that we agree. ^_^
Hi Flo ! I'm actually writing an essay about feminist artist. (it's more complicated than that, but this is more quick to say that.) I'm actually reading the essay of Nochlin and this is really interesting, can we talk a little bit about that ? (or anybody else who know a little about this subject.)
I love the adjective "fierce" to describe a stubborn unwillingness to surrender power. Please keep making these educational videos as inspiration for young women. Being in my late 60's, I've lived through decades of having my artistic career dreams quashed in a patriarchal culture, but being "fiercely independent", I never gave in and continue to paint, write, and sculpt to this day. Women have at least 51 percent to say in this world.
I always impressed by the artists you chose to feature, and this was a particularly good bunch. (And now I am off to look at more of Artemisia Gentileschi's work, thanks for introducing me to her!)
Can I recommend Marta Minujin? She is Argentinian and one of the fiercest artist I can think of. She defied the military dictatorship by making a giant installation of a Parthenon of prohibited books and invited people to take them home... She has done amazing work ❤️
I show my art students your vids because I love your perspective on art and art movements. And... finally someone using the word "fierce" to describe leading women in a field, and not to describe some runway model's outfit. You are awesome keep making vids.
We artist tend to struggle a lot. Right now, I was so inspired by the content on this video! (and I needed it). Great work! Glad I discovered you over the PBS network :)
Two of my favorite female artists are Leonora Carrington and Niki de Saint Phalle. I have a special place in my heart for Saint Phalle because I grew up playing on her sculptures in Balboa Park in my hometown.
I watched this video this morning as a fun distraction from my exams, and then when I saw my art exam this morning I became very happy, the entire exam was about women in art and gender roles in art in general. so grateful for these video's😊😊😊
Dorothea Lange, Imogen Cunningham, Berenice Abbot, Margrethe Mather, Ruth Bernhard, Diane Arbus, Annie Leibovitz, Cindy Sherman, Anna Atkins, Margaret Bourke-White, Sally Mann, Helen Levitt, Mary Ellen Mark, Nan Goldin, Lee Miller, Susan Meiselas, Gertrude Käsebier, Vivian Maier, Julia Margaret Cameron, Tina Modotti, Sonya Noskowiak, Consuelo Kanaga, Alma Lavenson, Dody Weston Thompson, Nata Piaskowski, Cara Weston, Erin Lamson Weston, ... just a few female photographers. Peter Palmquist wrote several books about women photographers.
for anyone interested in Gentileschi's work it's worth looking up the underpainting for her painting of Susanna and the Elders, the original drawing was much more raw and really gives a great insight of what she wanted to paint originally but didn't (presumably swayed by her male tutors not to)
I just rewatched this last night and was inspired to share both parts one and two in honor of Women's History Month 2021. I'm a professional photographer/photojournalist and I realize you left out my most inspiring woman photographer Margaret Bourke-White. I feel sometimes the lines are confused between fine art photography and photojournalism, although style and composition are in important in both areas of photography. I would love to see you do a piece about great women photographers at some point.
I adored the first Fierce Woman of Art and I have equally enjoyed this one was well. I would love to see even more in this series. That being said I think that Georgia O'Keeffe should be considered to be featured if you do another one. On top of her work speaking for itself, she was a trailblazer in the modernism movement and continue to work, even as her eyesight was compromised, until was 96, two years before she died.
+The Art Assignment Check out Ariel Levy's profile of Saint Phalle in a recent issue of The New Yorker www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/18/niki-de-saint-phalles-tarot-garden
Hannah Hoch all the way. She made it possible for women to become artists in the modern age. Did a huge portrait dedicated to her for university in oils.
Sarah, have you read Elizabeth Cohen's article about Artemisia, "The Trials of Artemisia Gentileschi: A Rape as History"? I think it's one of the most important articles I have read for contextualizing Artemisia's narrative - I highly recommend it!!
I am a founding Member of The National Museum of Women In the Arts in D.C. When NMWA was founded in 1981 I decided I would give this "experiment" 25 years of patronage and see whether it might escalate Women's visibility before I decided whether to continue monetary support. The Guerilla Girls provided me with the sad stats.
Thank you so much for making this series of videos! I've been wanting to learn more about female artists, but I don't know where to start. Do you have recommendations? Books, essays etc. I can't wait for part 3!
Florence Seymour dated Jimmy Stewart, Lee Marvin and was married 3 times. She painted until she was 100 and sketched when she was 101. I edited her book. I have 10 of her paintings. She did anything. She was the assistant to Charles Adrian Pillars, the sculptor.
can you discuss Maria Izquierdo in the next one? A contemporary of Kahlo that was more well known in her time but is now forgotten. I would love to hear your thoughts on her. The ceramicist Magdelena Odo would also be interesting considering how she plays with the medium
I'm seriously having difficulty reconciling the intro and the content. Yes, a ribbon (and commensurate payment, recognition, clout) is entirely appropriate for exhibits of work by women. Gender matters, like race, entirely because it matters, has for so long, and still renders way too many women incapable of any more than biting knees. This is the material of this conversation. Starting this vid with a softener *is case in point.*
I agree. While I am enjoying these potted histories of 'fierce' female artists, the intro here does sound almost like an apologia for talking about female artists. Galleries and museums would not have the gall, one hopes!, to boast about having an all-male show - precisely because almost all group shows are all-male or predominantly male and have been for centuries. Exhibiting an all-female art show is /would be still something to be proud of for any gallery or museum precisely because it is / would be such a rarity. The Guerrilla Girls have done their homework on the statistics of representation - it is fairly undeniable that women simply do not get much of a look-in. So all-female shows would go some small way towards balancing the access to the art critics and to the viewing and buying public; towards enabling female artists to earn income to continue working. And towards the writing of a truer history of art. And if the gallery or museum exhibiting a show of exclusively female artists did not promote it as such, art critics and gallery goers would certainly remark on the fact anyway. It would quite possibly be viewed unfavourably as a political or PC statement. Yet nobody would view an all-male show as a political statement - it is seen as the norm. Which is why change is so vital. There is an argument against all-female shows which holds that this ghettoises said female artists. But since they are already in a ghetto - the ghetto of being treated as second-rate, of being less valued and less valuable - that argument does not hold water. Individual female artists who object to being in all-women shows (and some do, especially the more successful ones) must of course be respected. But until some sort of parity is achieved, specific strategies will need to be employed, including all-women shows. Bring it on.
@@thumbprint7150 Love it! I'm embarking on a better grasp of both intersectionalism, and the measures other less-visible demographic groups have employed. The more I see/hear/read... well, for John Green himself: What Would Whipple Do. (Bishop Whipple was the first Episcopal Bishop of Minnesota. He wrote a pivotal and life-saving letter to then-President Lincoln. Advocacy works.)
But, there are great women artists. I agree with Nochlin's quote above, but not the title of the thesis. It all comes down to how you define greatness.
Sarah, as I saw that picture of Yayoi Kusama's work on a Louis Vuitton store, I thought about the ethics of this kind of work artists do for big-name brands, often ones related to the fashion industry. Maybe that would be an interesting topic for a video?
+Diego Borin Great question, and good idea for a video. I need to give it more thought, but for me the ethics aren't too complicated. Often, in a case like Kusama's, while they're making items with a luxury brand, said items are still WAY cheaper than buying an original work. So it's almost like a gesture toward a more democratic practice. Also for me it blurs the distinctions between art and design, which for me is productive. What do you think?
+The Art Assignment I think it sprung to my mind because of a recent article by Philip-Lorca diCorcia on artforum where it feels like he's absolutely had it with luxury brands, their owners and contemporary high-profile artists themselves (he goes as far as saying "Artists hardly even qualify as whores", which is silly but you can feel the anger in the writing). I haven't been following the world of art for long so I have no idea what kind of artist diCorcia is, or even if artforum is a commendable publication, but it struck me as so true. Hank Green has this video on his travel to the french riviera where he talks about ostentatious displays of wealth, and I get the feeling every time an artist does work to be displayed along a brand's logo or a comission for some luxury brand owner, they're letting their art become another mere display of wealth. Then again, any artist in an auction is too, in a way. I don't know what to think of it, it's a difficult subject D: (sorry if my english is confusing, I'm from Brazil)
+Diego Borin Your english is fantastic, no need at all to apologize. And thanks for letting me know about that article. diCorcia is talented photographer, and I'm curious to read it. The reality of art as commodity, and art as luxury good is complicated and often icky. I go back and forth about it. The world of big-time art investment is very far from my own art world, and I feel many give it a pass because in some senses that money is the engine that makes the whole system possible. But it also has terrible consequences and alienates vast hoards of people. I will continue to mull. Thanks for bringing this up.
+Sean Bieri I haven't yet. Am a bit suspicious. I love his writing, but this feels like a defensive act. Will put it on my summer reading list, nevertheless.
I'd love more conversation about women creating art in different forms. The post-modern choreographer Trisha Brown would be perfect for this kind of video!
Excellent video. Not to trivialize Hannah Höch's work, but to me the head of the collage from "Untitled from an Ethnographic Museum 1929" shown at 7:51 looks eerily similar to Maz Kanata, anyone else see this? I am curious what she cut this from.
I really like these videos, I always learn at least one new and interesting thing. :D I was wondering, is the bright pink lipstick a reference to Frida Kahlo's equally bright lips in her self-portraits? I looks like the same colour to me. :) Or is it a coincidence?
I appreciate this lovely woman's desire for fair play.. including the excellent quote from Linda Nochlin, aptly noting that we ALL enter a world of direct or indirect information, which may either be fair and factual.. or merely indoctrination. ..Not to mention her hint that written history itself may not necessarily be accurate -- a premise which is fundamental to the Truther movement.., but seemingly overlooked a bit here, as she takes previously refined and processed information with which to build her flattering portraits of the five women featured. No biggie. (Actually, it is her sense of fair play that I'm hoping will constrain her from deleting or burying my admittedly less-than-glowing commentary.) At any rate.., a small thing, but imho she distinguishes too heavily.. between the indoctrination of past institutions (which is real) and the presumed educational value of TH-cam. While TH-cam DID rally the Truther movement.., it has been plagued with increasing censorship and its own insidious sources of propaganda and misinformation. It's a hero's challenge.. to discern between truth and lies.., whether it's TH-cam, PBS, or ones local art gallery. Dare I suggest (as a black, Maoist, transgendered Jewish lesbian).., the mere fact that we seem to revere Art to begin with.. could even somewhat be a function of indoctrination. One might even speculate that the past and present institutions of "learning" take potentially facile minds, and tempt them with exalted portraits of certain if not ALL the "creative" or artistic vocations.. so as to perhaps steer them away from more fruitful enterprises -- say for example.., intellectual or scientific pursuits, where their fierce honesty may call into question various scared cows.. such as NASA, or the Federal Reserve system, historical revisionism, ball earth, or the equally ludicrous worldwide monarchies, and other government frauds. So here even, perhaps we see a gifted intellectual pounding away at her paper bag.., ironically, on the one hand ridiculing galleries that boast about all-woman shows, while essentially having one. And in fact.. I could easily be impressed with much of the work described here.., but I'm merely inviting a reality check instead -- where we acknowledge that art generally has about as much potential for changing anything.. as standing on a fruit crate in Hyde Park, railing about Flat Earth. We're propagandized into thinking Art Matters..; and we put artists on a ridiculous pedestal, since the benighted masses will throng to see anyone who is just as lost and confused as THEY are.. (Kusama being a perfect example.) When I swing by again in a week or so, wouldn't it be refreshing to see a video here.. titled: Five Fierce Women of Organic Farming.. or Investigative Journalism.? Or.., perhaps (if she insists on dwelling on art), she could feature a few current artists who seek to use their hapless skills by drawing attention to something actually more important than a steady stream of self portraits or polka dots -- say, chemtrails.. or 5G surveillance technology, and the impending hive being built for us to live in.. while we intellectually masturbate over the struggles of women artists. Oy!! cheers😇 scarletpumpernickel at h*t m**l
I really love these videos generally, Sarah is incredibly smart and so erudite and still accessible. But just what is going on with the music here?? I found it almost unbearably distracting.
I also really like how Gentileschi almost always depicted the women in her paintings with fierce expressions, unlike many male artists who tended to depict women as gentle and docile.
Also, John talked about the difficulty of expressing pain in one of his recent videos and I do think Frida Kahlo is an example of someone who was really good at bridging the pain empathy gap. Her paintings are so powerful that by looking at them I felt like it was the closest thing I could ever get to being able to feel someone else's pain.
+ARTiculations Yes, important point about Gentileschi's depiction of women! And great comparison about Kahlo and empathy gap bridging.
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She was the original fierce woman artist. The way she subverted the male gaze was just **chef’s kiss**
during the linda nochlin quote "the fault lies not in our stars," i kinda got distracted and thought of a certain book.
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That's a quote from Shakespear, Cassius, a Roman nobleman, uttered this phrase when he was talking to his friend, Brutus, in Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar. The phrase goes, “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars / But in ourselves, that we are underlings.” (Julius Caesar, Act I, Scene III, L. 140-141).
@@TheAdriaarch oh ok, i miss the art assignment. did you get the book? wasn't expecting a reply to a comment i left 2 years ago.
I'm an elementary school librarian and one of my favorite interactions when I was asked for a book was this: A kid who is an english language learner said they wanted a book about 'this artist lady who was married to a big fat man artist and..." then they motioned to their eyebrows and I was like FRIDA KAHLO!
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@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 No?
@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 how many times on one video are you going to comment that? It also just looks like you had some keyword salad.
Can fierce women of art be a mini-series?
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Joe Rodriguez yeah ❤️
YES ARTEMISIA GENTILESCHI I LOVE HER SO MUCH! I'm so happy to see her included in this!
I love the rock & roll playing behind the classical art pieces. Perfect combination.
+Josh Shpayher I couldn't focus on what Sarah was saying.
I live in Japan and I've been very lucky to see a lot of Kusama's works up close. You should definitely come and do an art trip in Naoshima (the art island) and Kanazawa (which is near where I live and has a vibrant art culture and some of the most amazing art I've ever experienced) and Nagoya had an art museum displaying some of her work too (but I'm partial to Naoshima and Kanazawa). I think her work really speaks to uniformity that Japan strives for, but also, at the same time, the desire to be individual and stand out. This is, of course, a human thing and not just something specific to Japan (the urge to both fit in and stand out), but in Japan it's something that is kind of central to the culture. Here there's a strange battle and harmony between old and new, giri and hone (social obligation and one's real wants), the transient and the permanent, and the individual and the group can be seen in almost all works of art and when I see Kusama's work, I think of how she shaped and reflects the Japanese culture so well. It's bold and beautiful and distinctly her own, but also somewhat disconcerting in its uniformity. I think she's succeeded in her goal of shaping a more beautiful world to live in while also commenting on the world we live in. I have the same goal. I have no desire to be alive, but for to make this sad, cruel world less sad and less cruel. I am not sure how to do it, but I am trying.
But speaking to the larger theme of the video, I have to agree with Simone de Beauvoir. It's not fair that women have to be fierce to make it, and even then maybe not even be recognized until after they die. Why do I always have to be a woman first and a person second? I don't even want to be a woman. I don't want to be a man either, but I just want to be a person who does beautiful things for the world and it would be nice to be recognized for the work I do and to not always have the credit go to men (or to only be given credit after I die...). So, I have to respectfully disagree with you that we shouldn't have all female (or rather non-male, as trans and non-cis people should be included) art exhibits. I think centering the works of the oppressed and underrepresented is very important. There's an academic whom I'd admire who is a part of the intersectional vegan feminist movement who has decided to take on the project of only quoting, citing, and praising female vegans (and especially women of color) publicly when talking about veganism as a social justice movement for animal rights, because so often in the movement men are quoted and celebrated and held up as leaders, even though they are a very small percentage of our movement, and even though they often took women's ideas without giving them credit.
I will studying philosophy starting this August and there's a professor who cites himself and other males as founders of the modern animal rights movement, which is just so far removed from reality it hurts. Especially, because he doesn't really actually stand for animal rights at all...
So I think all museums should take on the challenge of only displaying women's works sometime, they shouldn't advertise "HEY WE'RE AWESOME BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE WOMEN'S WORK HERE," but instead they should find truly great work of women, especially women of color or other oppressed groups of people. It's been only men for so long that I think big museums should only have women's works for a while (or at least mostly women's works for a while).
+Dead Philosopher Two things: 1) Naoshima is on my bucket list and I WILL get there eventually and hopefully soon!, and more importantly 2) I think I could have said this better, but I do think all-women artists shows should happen. It's just that I agree with you that museums should just have the great shows by women artists and not necessarily publicize that the creators are women. So we agree :).
The Art Assignment I think you'll love Naoshima! (Book really far in advance so that you can stay in one of the yurts on the beach!) Please try to make it to Kanazawa's 21st century museum as well. It's a bit off the beaten path, but every time I got there (which is fairly often), there's something new and interesting. The last time I was there I saw an amazing play called "It's Dark Outside" by a group called "The Last Great Hunt" (They're going to the US soon and I think you'd love it if you get a chance to see them) and there was an exhibition by an undocumented South Korean worker dressed in a bunny suit, which is really bold for him to do since Japan and Korea currently have a tense relationship (to put it mildly).
Please come within the next 2 months. I'm leaving (because my visa expires) in August! You'll get to see President Obama too, who will go to Hiroshima. My family will be here about that time visiting, so I would be completely overjoyed to see Obama, you, and my family at once. That would be really cool and would make up for the fact that I haven't met Ambassador Caroline Kennedy yet!
And sorry for the misunderstanding! I am glad that we agree. ^_^
Dead Philosopher thank you
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Damn, the trials Gentileschi faced are terrifying to hear about now. Glad her legacy has survived despite the oppressive society she lived in
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I love these Fierce Women of Art videos!!!
That Nochlin essay. YES. We read it in my seminar "Women in Renaissance and Baroque Art" this semester, and the conversation was amazing.
I am litterally in the middle of writting my final paper for my Art History class about Nochlin's essay! Highly reccomend!
+Flo Peters Excellent. My single quote doesn't do it justice. It's presents a much more nuanced analysis that must be read!
Hi Flo ! I'm actually writing an essay about feminist artist. (it's more complicated than that, but this is more quick to say that.) I'm actually reading the essay of Nochlin and this is really interesting, can we talk a little bit about that ? (or anybody else who know a little about this subject.)
I've literally never written an art history paper without referencing Linda Nochlin. Always insightful, always incredible.
I love the adjective "fierce" to describe a stubborn unwillingness to surrender power. Please keep making these educational videos as inspiration for young women. Being in my late 60's, I've lived through decades of having my artistic career dreams quashed in a patriarchal culture, but being "fiercely independent", I never gave in and continue to paint, write, and sculpt to this day. Women have at least 51 percent to say in this world.
I always impressed by the artists you chose to feature, and this was a particularly good bunch.
(And now I am off to look at more of Artemisia Gentileschi's work, thanks for introducing me to her!)
+TheCowgirlgem Definitely one of the most fascinating things to me - seeing who Sarah chooses!
Jenny Saville is great and could be worth covering in an upcoming episode. Loving the art history and criticism stuff
+FoundObjectFilms Excellent idea! Thanks.
Can I recommend Marta Minujin? She is Argentinian and one of the fiercest artist I can think of. She defied the military dictatorship by making a giant installation of a Parthenon of prohibited books and invited people to take them home... She has done amazing work ❤️
I show my art students your vids because I love your perspective on art and art movements. And... finally someone using the word "fierce" to describe leading women in a field, and not to describe some runway model's outfit. You are awesome keep making vids.
We artist tend to struggle a lot. Right now, I was so inspired by the content on this video! (and I needed it). Great work! Glad I discovered you over the PBS network :)
Two of my favorite female artists are Leonora Carrington and Niki de Saint Phalle. I have a special place in my heart for Saint Phalle because I grew up playing on her sculptures in Balboa Park in my hometown.
I watched this video this morning as a fun distraction from my exams, and then when I saw my art exam this morning I became very happy, the entire exam was about women in art and gender roles in art in general.
so grateful for these video's😊😊😊
Yes yes yes, to everyone in this video! I especially love Kusama, she is such a character
Loved the mona hatoum quote
Dorothea Lange, Imogen Cunningham, Berenice Abbot, Margrethe Mather, Ruth Bernhard, Diane Arbus, Annie Leibovitz, Cindy Sherman, Anna Atkins, Margaret Bourke-White, Sally Mann, Helen Levitt, Mary Ellen Mark, Nan Goldin, Lee Miller, Susan Meiselas, Gertrude Käsebier, Vivian Maier, Julia Margaret Cameron, Tina Modotti, Sonya Noskowiak, Consuelo Kanaga, Alma Lavenson, Dody Weston Thompson, Nata Piaskowski, Cara Weston, Erin Lamson Weston, ... just a few female photographers. Peter Palmquist wrote several books about women photographers.
I'd definitely add Pippilotti Rist to the pantheon of Fierce Women Artists.
+Stephen Persing Yes indeed. And she's also gotten the Beyonce gold stamp, since she references one of Rist's videos in the Lemonade film. :)
Yeah Gentileschi! She was badass!
edit now that I've watched the whole video: yeah all of these artists! they are all badass!
I'd love to see this format but done with Asian/ asain american artists.
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I miss this channel so much
is this my favorite art channel? this is my favorite art channel, yeah
for anyone interested in Gentileschi's work it's worth looking up the underpainting for her painting of Susanna and the Elders, the original drawing was much more raw and really gives a great insight of what she wanted to paint originally but didn't (presumably swayed by her male tutors not to)
PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER ONE OMGGG :"(
I just rewatched this last night and was inspired to share both parts one and two in honor of Women's History Month 2021. I'm a professional photographer/photojournalist and I realize you left out my most inspiring woman photographer Margaret Bourke-White. I feel sometimes the lines are confused between fine art photography and photojournalism, although style and composition are in important in both areas of photography. I would love to see you do a piece about great women photographers at some point.
I adored the first Fierce Woman of Art and I have equally enjoyed this one was well. I would love to see even more in this series. That being said I think that Georgia O'Keeffe should be considered to be featured if you do another one. On top of her work speaking for itself, she was a trailblazer in the modernism movement and continue to work, even as her eyesight was compromised, until was 96, two years before she died.
+MsFredWeasley I plan to keep going. And there seems to be consensus that O'Keefe should happen in the next one!
This is so great!! I hope there's going to be more Fierce Women episodes!
And while talking about fierce women in art you can't forget Niki de Saint Phalle's Tarot Garden in Tuscany.
+Mursalin Mosaddeque Niki de Saint Phalle is definitely on my long list! She's fierce for sure.
+The Art Assignment Check out Ariel Levy's profile of Saint Phalle in a recent issue of The New Yorker
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/18/niki-de-saint-phalles-tarot-garden
Your video comes on in good time. A retrospective on Mona Hatoum is being exhibited in Tate Modern which will end in 21st August.
Lee Bontecou, Agnes Martin, Eva Hesse, Barbara Kruger
Hannah Hoch all the way. She made it possible for women to become artists in the modern age. Did a huge portrait dedicated to her for university in oils.
Okay I was NOT expecting what happened at 2:17. Caught me off guard
Amazing! Do one with surrealist women! Please... Like Remedios Varo.
LOVE LOVE LOVE these episodes- it also will be added to my Values Alignment Project playlist 💖💙💟
+Belinda Weber Now that is success.
This was FABULOUS. Thank you so much for making both of these!!
One of my favorite female artists in alive today, dorielle caimi
I really hope you guys make another one of these, this was really interesting! :)
Sarah, have you read Elizabeth Cohen's article about Artemisia, "The Trials of Artemisia Gentileschi: A Rape as History"? I think it's one of the most important articles I have read for contextualizing Artemisia's narrative - I highly recommend it!!
for anyone interested, Tateshots just recently uploaded a video featuring Mona Hatoum :)
+Danni Yes, it's great! And so is Tateshots in general. Everybody subscribe!: th-cam.com/users/tate
I need Yayoi Kusama to design my reality.
Judith Leyster is my favorite artist from the Dutch Golden Age ❤️
Definitely should've been included here
I am a founding Member of The National Museum of Women In the Arts in D.C. When NMWA was founded in 1981 I decided I would give this "experiment" 25 years of patronage and see whether it might escalate Women's visibility before I decided whether to continue monetary support. The Guerilla Girls provided me with the sad stats.
Loved the speech at the beginning
Thank you so much for making this series of videos! I've been wanting to learn more about female artists, but I don't know where to start. Do you have recommendations? Books, essays etc. I can't wait for part 3!
Can we have some more of this series, please!
love this video SO much. the linda nochlin article is great btw.
I really enjoy these videos. I think you guys are doing a great job. The videos are full of information and the images keep people's attention. :)
I saw some of Hatoum's pieces yesterday!
+Dani Kaake Lucky you! Where?
The Warehouse, an art museum in Dallas.
Please do another!
Amazing video! I really liked the first part but this one was even better :) I learn so much from your videos.
I want more of these!!
Fierce Men ! Braking the rules that changed the art world breaking away from the Salons and Academia.
More of these please!
Marina Abarmovic!
Florence Seymour dated Jimmy Stewart, Lee Marvin and was married 3 times. She painted until she was 100 and sketched when she was 101. I edited her book. I have 10 of her paintings. She did anything. She was the assistant to Charles Adrian Pillars, the sculptor.
Love this series. thank you
+Shane Commane Thank YOU for watching and participating in the comments!
Gotta love those quotes
I urgently recommend the book "Ninth Street Women" by Mary Gabriel!!!
can you discuss Maria Izquierdo in the next one? A contemporary of Kahlo that was more well known in her time but is now forgotten. I would love to hear your thoughts on her. The ceramicist Magdelena Odo would also be interesting considering how she plays with the medium
+Irene O'Hare Great to know about. Will add them to my long list and research further! Thanks.
I'm seriously having difficulty reconciling the intro and the content.
Yes, a ribbon (and commensurate payment, recognition, clout) is entirely appropriate for exhibits of work by women. Gender matters, like race, entirely because it matters, has for so long, and still renders way too many women incapable of any more than biting knees. This is the material of this conversation. Starting this vid with a softener *is case in point.*
I agree. While I am enjoying these potted histories of 'fierce' female artists, the intro here does sound almost like an apologia for talking about female artists. Galleries and museums would not have the gall, one hopes!, to boast about having an all-male show - precisely because almost all group shows are all-male or predominantly male and have been for centuries. Exhibiting an all-female art show is /would be still something to be proud of for any gallery or museum precisely because it is / would be such a rarity. The Guerrilla Girls have done their homework on the statistics of representation - it is fairly undeniable that women simply do not get much of a look-in. So all-female shows would go some small way towards balancing the access to the art critics and to the viewing and buying public; towards enabling female artists to earn income to continue working. And towards the writing of a truer history of art.
And if the gallery or museum exhibiting a show of exclusively female artists did not promote it as such, art critics and gallery goers would certainly remark on the fact anyway. It would quite possibly be viewed unfavourably as a political or PC statement. Yet nobody would view an all-male show as a political statement - it is seen as the norm. Which is why change is so vital.
There is an argument against all-female shows which holds that this ghettoises said female artists. But since they are already in a ghetto - the ghetto of being treated as second-rate, of being less valued and less valuable - that argument does not hold water. Individual female artists who object to being in all-women shows (and some do, especially the more successful ones) must of course be respected. But until some sort of parity is achieved, specific strategies will need to be employed, including all-women shows. Bring it on.
@@thumbprint7150 Love it! I'm embarking on a better grasp of both intersectionalism, and the measures other less-visible demographic groups have employed. The more I see/hear/read... well, for John Green himself:
What Would Whipple Do.
(Bishop Whipple was the first Episcopal Bishop of Minnesota. He wrote a pivotal and life-saving letter to then-President Lincoln. Advocacy works.)
But, there are great women artists. I agree with Nochlin's quote above, but not the title of the thesis. It all comes down to how you define greatness.
I own an incredible edition of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland filled entirely with Yayoi Kusama's artwork. It's one of my absolute favourite things.
+CrumpArt I have it, too! It is so wonderful! Also, it is special to me because my daughter's name is Alice :).
Sarah, as I saw that picture of Yayoi Kusama's work on a Louis Vuitton store, I thought about the ethics of this kind of work artists do for big-name brands, often ones related to the fashion industry. Maybe that would be an interesting topic for a video?
+Diego Borin Great question, and good idea for a video. I need to give it more thought, but for me the ethics aren't too complicated. Often, in a case like Kusama's, while they're making items with a luxury brand, said items are still WAY cheaper than buying an original work. So it's almost like a gesture toward a more democratic practice. Also for me it blurs the distinctions between art and design, which for me is productive. What do you think?
+The Art Assignment I think it sprung to my mind because of a recent article by Philip-Lorca diCorcia on artforum where it feels like he's absolutely had it with luxury brands, their owners and contemporary high-profile artists themselves (he goes as far as saying "Artists hardly even qualify as whores", which is silly but you can feel the anger in the writing). I haven't been following the world of art for long so I have no idea what kind of artist diCorcia is, or even if artforum is a commendable publication, but it struck me as so true. Hank Green has this video on his travel to the french riviera where he talks about ostentatious displays of wealth, and I get the feeling every time an artist does work to be displayed along a brand's logo or a comission for some luxury brand owner, they're letting their art become another mere display of wealth. Then again, any artist in an auction is too, in a way. I don't know what to think of it, it's a difficult subject D:
(sorry if my english is confusing, I'm from Brazil)
+Diego Borin Your english is fantastic, no need at all to apologize. And thanks for letting me know about that article. diCorcia is talented photographer, and I'm curious to read it. The reality of art as commodity, and art as luxury good is complicated and often icky. I go back and forth about it. The world of big-time art investment is very far from my own art world, and I feel many give it a pass because in some senses that money is the engine that makes the whole system possible. But it also has terrible consequences and alienates vast hoards of people. I will continue to mull. Thanks for bringing this up.
OMG, this video was fierrrrrrrccce!
My favourite female artist is Cindy Sherman :)
god, I love Frida sooo much
These are great
Thanks
Compliments on your pronunciation of Höch - very difficult German name, but you did great :)
Brilliant!
So good!
A really great female artist is the Swedish abstract painter Hilma af Klint.
I haven't gotten to it yet, but Dave Hickey has a new book out of essays on 25 women artists. Anyone read it?
+Sean Bieri I haven't yet. Am a bit suspicious. I love his writing, but this feels like a defensive act. Will put it on my summer reading list, nevertheless.
Please do niki de saint phalle!!!
Thank you great video
Mona Hatoum!!
How about doing a story about people with disabilities who do artwork ?
That’s a be a good story to talk about !
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louise bourgeois please!!!
I'd love more conversation about women creating art in different forms. The post-modern choreographer Trisha Brown would be perfect for this kind of video!
+Jace Weyant Great idea. I'll put her on the long list :). Thanks.
stay fierce reminds me of doctor doe's stay curious:D great video!
Excellent video. Not to trivialize Hannah Höch's work, but to me the head of the collage from "Untitled from an Ethnographic Museum 1929" shown at 7:51 looks eerily similar to Maz Kanata, anyone else see this? I am curious what she cut this from.
Heck ya we love frida!!
+Julia Holland How can you not?!
I’m much prefer the new background but am disappointed that it’s not signed and or listed in the description
awesome
please do marina abromavich
Rebecca Horn is also a great female artist
great video
Frida is my favorite, but so is Marina Abramović. Marina definitely deserve video only for herself!
I really like these videos, I always learn at least one new and interesting thing. :D I was wondering, is the bright pink lipstick a reference to Frida Kahlo's equally bright lips in her self-portraits? I looks like the same colour to me. :) Or is it a coincidence?
+Anneke Oosterink Coincidence. I wear bright pink lipstick frequently. And thanks for watching!
A lucky coincidence then. :) Thanks for answering!
Danielson-Gambogui is one of my favorites and she's relatively not that modern (since I've noticed that most of these women are)
please make a video about Ana Mendieta
I appreciate this lovely woman's desire for fair play.. including the excellent quote from Linda Nochlin, aptly noting that we ALL enter a world of direct or indirect information, which may either be fair and factual.. or merely indoctrination.
..Not to mention her hint that written history itself may not necessarily be accurate -- a premise which is fundamental to the Truther movement.., but seemingly overlooked a bit here, as she takes previously refined and processed information with which to build her flattering portraits of the five women featured. No biggie.
(Actually, it is her sense of fair play that I'm hoping will constrain her from deleting or burying my admittedly less-than-glowing commentary.)
At any rate.., a small thing, but imho she distinguishes too heavily.. between the indoctrination of past institutions (which is real) and the presumed educational value of TH-cam.
While TH-cam DID rally the Truther movement.., it has been plagued with increasing censorship and its own insidious sources of propaganda and misinformation.
It's a hero's challenge.. to discern between truth and lies.., whether it's TH-cam, PBS, or ones local art gallery.
Dare I suggest (as a black, Maoist, transgendered Jewish lesbian).., the mere fact that we seem to revere Art to begin with.. could even somewhat be a function of indoctrination.
One might even speculate that the past and present institutions of "learning" take potentially facile minds, and tempt them with exalted portraits of certain if not ALL the "creative" or artistic vocations.. so as to perhaps steer them away from more fruitful enterprises -- say for example.., intellectual or scientific pursuits, where their fierce honesty may call into question various scared cows.. such as NASA, or the Federal Reserve system, historical revisionism, ball earth, or the equally ludicrous worldwide monarchies, and other government frauds.
So here even, perhaps we see a gifted intellectual pounding away at her paper bag.., ironically, on the one hand ridiculing galleries that boast about all-woman shows, while essentially having one. And in fact.. I could easily be impressed with much of the work described here.., but I'm merely inviting a reality check instead -- where we acknowledge that art generally has about as much potential for changing anything.. as standing on a fruit crate in Hyde Park, railing about Flat Earth.
We're propagandized into thinking Art Matters..; and we put artists on a ridiculous pedestal, since the benighted masses will throng to see anyone who is just as lost and confused as THEY are.. (Kusama being a perfect example.)
When I swing by again in a week or so, wouldn't it be refreshing to see a video here.. titled: Five Fierce Women of Organic Farming.. or Investigative Journalism.?
Or.., perhaps (if she insists on dwelling on art), she could feature a few current artists who seek to use their hapless skills by drawing attention to something actually more important than a steady stream of self portraits or polka dots -- say, chemtrails.. or 5G surveillance technology, and the impending hive being built for us to live in.. while we intellectually masturbate over the struggles of women artists. Oy!!
cheers😇
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I really love these videos generally, Sarah is incredibly smart and so erudite and still accessible.
But just what is going on with the music here?? I found it almost unbearably distracting.
Part 3