I've noticed this as well and one of the reasons I subscribed. Still debating on what I want for a boot drive and a gaming drive. Thinking 1tb for boot and 4tb for gaming.
@@TechTesters days ago i accidentally damaged my 4TB HDD but i want to replace it with 2TB or 4TB Sata SSD which of these Samsung,Lexar,Silicon Power and WD
I just ordered the 990 pro 4GB. Arrives in two days. Nice to hear that they fixed the issues. Btw, upgrading from 970 evo plus 1TB bought in July 2020 for $218, while the new one is $250 (black Friday sale) for 4TB and it’s pro version.
Up until a few months ago i was still using a 840 Pro. Used it for 10 years in my 1st CPU build and still indicates 70% life. upgrade to a new PC now with a 950 Pro and a 980 pro at very good price, love Samsung SSD. Had one SSD failed after 1 week use -they gave me a upgraded replacement (in nr . not GB) never looked back again.
I enjoy your reviews, very thorough, and informative. I have made a couple of purchases based on your reviews. I will be purchasing a 990 Pro 4TB since it is single sided, which is an important detail that most reviews leave out. I will be installing it on a laptop board that will only except a single sided SSD. Some of the other reviews I've looked at don't take time to do extensive testing or mention physical details such as single or double sided, or heatsink thickness etc. Thanks for the exceptionally good, detailed review.
Great review, many thanks. I've been using 2x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB SSD's in RAID0 since they came out. I was originally going to just get 1x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB drive but Samsung took ages to release it. The RAID0 performance has been good (14000 read/13000 write), no complaints here.
I'm using the 990Pro 2Tb model as OS and workdrive combined with a Acidalie BT01 Cooler (black), it just rocks. Was waiting for the 4TB model as gamedrive, but since that wasnt out and nothing was to be heard from Samsung at that time about when the 4tb will be finally released... i went with the Lexar NM790 4TB for just 200Bucks and i cant complain, it runs Cyberpunk and everything else without issues and darn fast on my X570 Aorus Pro. That one is cooled with the BeQuiet! MC1 Pro btw, as the NM790 is also singlesided it just fits under my brick of a GPU (RTX3080 Aorus Master 12Gb). Thx for the review of the 4TB model, maybe the next system will get some, as it will surely have more than just 2 M.2 Slots..^^
I was choosing between SN850X 2TB vs 990 Pro 2TB. In the end, I took both: SN850X 2TB for PS5 and 990 Pro 2TB for my PC (I updated the firmware, of course). Both models are very good. It’s great that Samsung has finally released a 4TB version, thanks for the review! Assassin's Creed earrings are very cool :)
I heard firmware issue and bought Wd black 850x instead. About 2 months ago. Nice to see Samsung introduce a product while simultaneously trying to dry up supply
Exactly what i needed to know!! thank you!!! i was Eyeing this model for a few days now and this video helped me finalize my decision! ♥ Getting it next week ♥
Great review and a very good SSD (as always by Samsung). I have the 990Pro 2TB since December 2022 and I faced the issue you mentioned in the video (firmware fixed only several months, non just weeks, after I bought it). The 4TB is still a very solid product but I really don't like those gaming performances and I don't figure out why they are so poor. I think I will end up in buying a SN850X 4TB just for games while keeping the 990Pro 2TB for OS and apps. P.s. I know it has nothing to do with the review but I love the color and the shape of your nails. Too cute!
Great review! I’m thinking of upgrading from the 2TB 980 Pro I currently use for proxy and render cache on my editing machine to this 4TB. Been doing lots more massive documentary and event coverage projects this past year and my 2TB fills up fast with cache
Thanks! I have an old PC with PCIEx 3.0 (and an 8700K processor) but I decided to order this drive a couple of minutes ago. Glad they solved the problem you mention. I know I'll have much less performance but I will be able to use the drive on a potential future computer when the time for an upgrade comes.
Nada, another great vid on the details of all things NVME!!! You have a remarkable talent for conversational yet thorough narration, and the thing that really impresses - as compared to many of the other YT'ers who do these types of videos - is that you don't have a jump cut after every sentence, LOL. Doubly impressive since English is not your first language. Keep up the awesome work!!!
Thank you for taking the time to make this. I learned about TLC vs QLC and that TLC is better for performance and endurance. I hope w/ the latest firmware these drives are now more reliable. Thanks again
Leuke review! Tof dat je uitlegt wat PCMark is en waarom je het test. Ik zie dat je steeds verbeteringen doorvoert en jezelf wil uitdagen, ga zo door! Ik blijf je kanaal supporten zoals gewoonlijk, want ik zie een hard werkende dame.
I've got an old...like 8 year old Sandisk SSD. 120GB.A Z400, as a bootdrive. 68TB written and absolutely no issues at all. SSD's for a while now are WAY more sturdy. All my HDD's have some kind of issues and clearly visible in any SMART data viewer.
This is awesome news to watch 🤓👍 Finally a 4-TB drive. I currently own (x2) 2-TB Samsung 990-Pro's version installed in Raid-1 mode installed on, Gigabyte X670E Extreme Motherboard AMD Ryzen 9 (7950-X) GSkill 128-GB DDR5 (6000mHz) So hearing about the 4TB version is awesome, because I am going to get 2 of them. I thought they were never going to release a 4-TB version. I thought they were going to release a new product above the 990-Pro's. Like a 1000 or something LOL 🤷♀😂 I am waiting for a RTX-5000 GPU now, and Ill be all set. As I am still running a GTX-1070-Ti in this new system. I would have gotten the Crucial NVMe but they are way way too expensive. I'll wait. As this motherboard supports Gen-5 NVMe in all 5 slots.
Nice detailed SSD review again! Curious to see when Samsung will bring out a Gen 5 drive. For storage I recently bought a Lexar NM790 4TB in the Netherlands for 200€ while It's going for 190€ now. Would love to see a review of that comparing to the P3 plus and Kingston options.
good info as normal Samsung drives are the only drives I use in all of my PCs I just replaced my 960 NVME drives in my Z270 I77700K rig with the 970 Evo Plus and I am very happy with them the Samsung Data Migration software was beautiful for cloning my drives my other PCs are 13th gen PCs both with 980 Pro drives in all the M.2 bays along with 850 Evo SATA SSDs in the other drive bays also very happy with them all
Bought this drive yesterday, false humbleness aside, I am the guy who will make the most revealing single-threaded IOPS-wise benchmark showing that 4TB 990 PRO is the king... it will stress 1100 GB swap file for really random reads/writes of size 16 to 256 bytes... brutality itself... will report the Health and how many Total Reads/Writes in TB were done by reading the SMART... the whole torture will be on Fedora 39... As for your review, it is good but lacks the synthetic IOPS reporting, my suggestion for your future reviews is to include screenshots of 4KB random IOPS for 1GB and 64GB blocks.
Nice to see the Gen 5 SSDs being included in the benchmarks. I wonder how noticeable the differences in benchmarks are in actual use. I have no idea if the top of the chart performer is 1 second faster, or 10 seconds faster, or 0.1 seconds faster than the middle of the pack when launching a game or application, for example. I can tell that it's faster in score but have no way to translate it to real difference in usage.
Great video! My greatest disappointment regarding Samsung SSDs is the fact that the "Pro" series are no longer using 2-bit MLC NAND, but they use regular 3-bit TLC NAND, which is slower, 10X less durable, and less reliable. I would like to see a 1TB M.2 PCIe 5.0 x4 drive with 2GB DRAM and 1-bit SLC NAND. But no company seems to release such a drive. (Enmotus's FuzeDrive was the closest to that, however, today Enmotus is no longer in business).
For gaming, the WD is better. The test that collects all sorts into real life tests allows others to go closer on score to the WD. But pure gaming, none of the gen 4 is that close
As a photo and video editor, I'm so looking forward to finally upgrading my laptop (currently a budget gamer laptop from 2019 with half tb ssd) to a modern premium laptop and the first thing I'm going to do is toss this 4tb 990 in there for a total of 5tb so that I can stop sweating every time I need to import another SD card full of photos. Also I might actually be able to keep some games installed for once.
I am still running with 4 x 1TB Samsung 970 pro versions. The oldest two are from 2018 and the latest 2021. All of them still have a health of 100% procent. I have a feeling the 970 pro still is the best and reliable nvme from Samsung.
Hi Nada, thanks for the great videos. Please would you consider a video on the Lexar NM790 2TB/4TB drives. I'd be super interested in the difference compared to the 990 Pro. Secondly a video for the best type of NVME drives for external enclosures like the Acasis TBU401E Thunderbolt 3/4. Thanks again for the content.
Thanks for the excellent review! Please consider reviewing also the Lexar NM790 4 TB and the Innovation IT PerformanceY 4TB, both of which cost about 200€ right now, compared to >300€ for the 990 4TB.
Hey, I’m thinking about this too much haha really need help deciding. I have 1tb 990 pro as my main OS drive and I want a second one mainly for gaming I’m between a 4tb 990 pro or wd black sn850x, they both around the same price here so money is not a problem. Which one should I get ? Thank you
Thank you for posting this excellent discussion of the Samsung 4 Tb drive. I do own 2 Samsung NvME drives that were affected by the "drive health failure" issue. Fortunately, I did the necessary firmware updates on each of the drives. They are working fine today. I was displeased with Samsung for not handling this issue better at the time. When I had the chance to build a complete system based on an Asus ProArt Z790 motherboard, I opted to buy Western Digital SN850x devices instead of Samsung devices. If I could build another system today, I would watch all of your NvME product reviews, listen carefully to your advice, look at product availability here in the USA, and then decide. Thanks again for this review. I think I understand the amount of work that you put into examining the Samsung product and then producing the review content. Both are considerable projects by themselves and require specialized skills and constant training.
I just bought this for my games & media and to finally move away entirely from 2.5" SATA drives. I currently have one Samsung 980 500GB for my Windows and software and two 1TB Samsung Evo drives, 850 and 870. 990 Pro will replace the latter two.
Important to mention: there has been research that just shows that - the distinction in heatsink isn't WHAT heat sink you get, but just that there is one. - thats the only important factor :)
as it happens I bought 2x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB and a 2TB NVMe SSD's back earlier this year. The 2TB model is running very fast writes and reads.. but the 1TB model is not as fast as the 2TB one. I may money permitting get a 4TB Samsung NVMe SSD 990 Pro some day.. lol :D
Maybe you could make a video about NVME enclosures like satechi’s USB4 enclosure and Acasis NVME USB3 enclosure, since most Mac users need this enclosure in order to make it work with their Mac! Would be awesome to see one! Would be cool to see how well a 990 pro will perform in these enclosures, some heatsink tips regarding using enclosures etc. Etc. Oh and greetings from Amsterdam, your vids are great! :)
@@TechTesters yes they are a little spare at the moment. But a lot of people are getting into NVME drives and enclosures. Me and almost all of my creative friends, like a few hundred of us are looking for a good enclosure and are on e regularly basis scouting TH-cam and google for reviews of reliable and thermal capable (with decent heatsink) 40 gbps usb4 enclosures, since it is way cheaper, faster and more reliable in comparison to a SanDisk SSD. Especially the latest SanDisk SSD’s ;p. For now we are running the Acasis USB4 enclosures, a little bit shady company, does run hot but it is working for the moment. We are waiting for Satechi’s USB4 Enclosure to be available again, which is expected to have better thermal control, so running a lot cooler which as you know will be more beneficial to drive lifespan and better read/write speeds of course! But we are just creative’s, trying things out on our gut feeling, and you are the pro with the cool test results and benchmarks! So we would love to see the insights (like actual read/write speeds when using a specific NVME drive per specific enclosure, operating temps etc.) from you :) If you decide to make a vid on it, you would be one of the first to do a proper one, so it would be a premiere! Regarding TH-cam business, I think you will gather a lot of views and subs, since this is a new niche that comes with NVME drives! Have I already convinced you yet?! Haha We will be waiting! Cheers
Was pretty much decided on this as the main drive used for os and games (coming from a gen 3), but it's a bit disappointing to see the 3dmark benchmark. Any idea why? Also, any plan to do a Sabrent Rocket 5 review anytime soon?
Not sure why it's dragging a bit in those traces specifically, but it does. Still makes a solid all-round drive though, but if it's just for gaming I think there are better options for less.
So I suppose this is the best nvme ssd I should get to substitute the 1tb oem on my Lenovo P1 gen4, but if i want one for the second nvme slot that is a little slower (second slot is only pci gen3) should I consider a 4tb Kignston NV2 for that or is there a better option from Samsung for that?
@@TechTestersI have one more question that came to my mind just before i wanted to pre-order. The SSD distributes heat through the heatspreader on the bottom and the controller on the top. Now I have seen on newer motherboards that they also have heatspreader pads on the bottom of the motherboard. I'm using the Msi X570 Gaming Edge Wifi, which has a slot with a heatsink, but it's just a heatspreader pad that sits on top of the SSD. Does that mean that the heat can't really be dissipated completely and the SSD gets too hot? Is it better to leave out the built-in heatsink and buy the SSD with the heatsink pre-installed?
I have a SN850X 4TB as main drive and my old SN850 2TB its the 2nd drive, was waiting for 990pro 4TB but abit disappointed with the real life performance on the gaming benchmarks while in theroy the 990PRO is the best latency drive in the PCI4 market, Iam not joining the PCI5 yet since on raptor lake the lanes to the graphics get halved, Bonus points for the AC earrings :D
Remove the file transfer bit within that test and the WD performs even better. Not everyone transfers files. That part of the test allows the others to catch up in points, still the WD was superior in the full test. And add the 4tb version of it, the others aren’t even close.
I would appreciate your guidance on how to determine whether the laptop supports a 4TB SSD M.2. Your assistance on this matter is invaluable, and I thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this inquiry. The laptop is equipped with the following specifications: System Model: VivoBook_ASUSLaptop S5402ZA_S5402ZA Processor: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H, 2300 Mhz, 14 Core(s), 20 Logical Processor(s) Installed Physical Memory (RAM): 40.0 GB
Without the Sabrent Rocket VPlus, this is not a good comparison for high performance NVME drives. Though at least you got the WD SN850X to some degree. And that's speaking as a long time 960EVO user (still have that in my #2 gaming rig).
I watched your review of the Western Digital WD_BLACK 1TB SN770, dated about 1 year ago. I purchase 3 of those drives. I was searching your channel for a review of the Lexar NM790 and the Lexar NM800 Pro but I was unable to find a review. Have you, or would you do a review of these drives? They boast of very high performance and are very reasonably priced. I saw the NM790 4TB advertised on sale at Amazon for $188.90 (USD) Haven't seen many good, thorough reviews, or comparisons for these drives.
I had a question after complimenting you on the thorough test of this drive. My thought on 4Tb drives is very simple, I can get two 2 Tb drives for less, but one needs to have the computer to run that and not all motherboards are made the same. I bought a drive, Fanxiang 2Tb, which has Dynamic SLC. From what I gather, it is great as long as the drive does not get too congested and single level blocks are no longer available. In this, do they really differ that much from QLC?
Thanks! Most high-end drives use SLC caching to feel fast in light use. Cheap QLC drives will really perform poorly though once you get past the SLC and/or DRAM cache, so for any serious work high-end TLCs are a lot better.
Oof, that price though. It's not worth it for me to get one 4TB drive that costs more than two 2TB drives. I do hope NVMe prices keep dropping though. It's getting close to that sweet spot where I can finally justify swapping out all of the HDDs in my NAS for NVMe drives. Being able to rebuild that array in less than a day would be _so nice._
@@AlfaPro1337 The theoretical speeds are similar, but I did assume there is something a little off with it given the price. The other drives of similar theoretical speed seem to be roughly around the price of the 990 pro, more than I am willing to pay for a drive personally. I use a 1TB K3000 m.2 for my os, a 2.5" for gaming (since I already had it) and storage is still on hdd (I already had them as well), were my hdd's to fail I would probably buy more hdd's given the still very high price of large 2.5" and m.2
@@-opus I still cannot fathom as to why people are buying these (high perf) SSD as their main OS, or game drive. You aren't going to see those advertised speed on daily usage. I was initally bump that I bought the 1TB 980, because it's DRAMless, but after thinking it through, it doesn't matter. It's currently at 35TBW out of 600TBW. There's currently no games using MS DS, and even in the future like 3-5 years, you are on a new SSD already. I did retired my 3TB game drive (P300) and replaced it with an 4TB 870 Evo, I see night and day difference, especially games like Skyrim, or those heavy 3A games. No more texture streaming. I'm planning to get some 'used' 4TB SSD (as 2.5 inch) to replace my Workspace drive (Documents, Music, Pictures, Downloads, etc---this is also another 3TB Toshiba P300). By the term 'used' means, that it's on my country's used listing, but it's close to brand new, or just recently, I bought a 'used' 4TB 870 Evo for half the price of a new one---because the company decommissioned a server, and had some SSD spare as cache drive, but ultimately never used.
seeing the version with heatsink, I wonder, can anyone tell if vertical M.2 NVME brackets used on certain older motherboards (like what ASUS had in X99 series) would physically fit heatsink (width) NVME SSD ?
Pretty sure Linus Tech Tips did a Vid on Gen 5 vs. Gen 4's (SSD's) and there was virtually no difference in load times on huge applications and games. (Within a second or two)
It's weird how few of my favorite tech tubers cover SSDs. You're the channel I always look to for SSD advice!
Glad to hear it! :D
I've noticed this as well and one of the reasons I subscribed. Still debating on what I want for a boot drive and a gaming drive. Thinking 1tb for boot and 4tb for gaming.
@@tosiin3930I'm going to splurge for the Intel Optane P5800X as my boot drive.
Wish me luck. 🤣🤣🤣
@@TechTesters days ago i accidentally damaged my 4TB HDD but i want to replace it with 2TB or 4TB Sata SSD which of these Samsung,Lexar,Silicon Power and WD
@@hassangammudi3212Do you have a old PC? If not why did you want Sata SSD’s in almost 2024?
Thank you for pointing out that this was the only single-sided 4TB model; you saved me some serious headache. Love all your work.
I just ordered the 990 pro 4GB. Arrives in two days. Nice to hear that they fixed the issues.
Btw, upgrading from 970 evo plus 1TB bought in July 2020 for $218, while the new one is $250 (black Friday sale) for 4TB and it’s pro version.
Hi, could you share or tell me where did you buy 990 pro for 250$ ?
I bought it now for 380$. How did you buy 250$?
Up until a few months ago i was still using a 840 Pro. Used it for 10 years in my 1st CPU build and still indicates 70% life. upgrade to a new PC now with a 950 Pro and a 980 pro at very good price, love Samsung SSD. Had one SSD failed after 1 week use -they gave me a upgraded replacement (in nr . not GB) never looked back again.
Same as you. I have a 850 evo, 950 pro, 980 pro 1 tb and this is... 🎉
I enjoy your reviews, very thorough, and informative. I have made a couple of purchases based on your reviews. I will be purchasing a 990 Pro 4TB since it is single sided, which is an important detail that most reviews leave out. I will be installing it on a laptop board that will only except a single sided SSD. Some of the other reviews I've looked at don't take time to do extensive testing or mention physical details such as single or double sided, or heatsink thickness etc. Thanks for the exceptionally good, detailed review.
Thank you!
Great review, many thanks. I've been using 2x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB SSD's in RAID0 since they came out. I was originally going to just get 1x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB drive but Samsung took ages to release it. The RAID0 performance has been good (14000 read/13000 write), no complaints here.
Yeah they said "later in 2022" when they launched the 1-2TB versions. It's taken them closer to a year :-/
yeah I was in the same situation, my workstations in the office now have the cheaper Crucial P3 Plus 😆
I'm using the 990Pro 2Tb model as OS and workdrive combined with a Acidalie BT01 Cooler (black), it just rocks.
Was waiting for the 4TB model as gamedrive,
but since that wasnt out and nothing was to be heard from Samsung at that time about when the 4tb will be finally released...
i went with the Lexar NM790 4TB for just 200Bucks and i cant complain, it runs Cyberpunk and everything else without issues and darn fast on my X570 Aorus Pro.
That one is cooled with the BeQuiet! MC1 Pro btw, as the NM790 is also singlesided it just fits under my brick of a GPU (RTX3080 Aorus Master 12Gb).
Thx for the review of the 4TB model, maybe the next system will get some, as it will surely have more than just 2 M.2 Slots..^^
I look forward to your reviews. The 4TB would be a great addition to my setup, but the price is more than I am willing to pay at this time.
Thank you :D And give it time I guess.
I was choosing between SN850X 2TB vs 990 Pro 2TB. In the end, I took both: SN850X 2TB for PS5 and 990 Pro 2TB for my PC (I updated the firmware, of course). Both models are very good.
It’s great that Samsung has finally released a 4TB version, thanks for the review!
Assassin's Creed earrings are very cool :)
When in doubt, buy both! 😅 And thanks!
WD has the 4tb as well with the 850X
do you still have to update the firmware buying the samsung 990 pro? Its not already updated out the box? I'm confused
@@ryanhoward22bought 990pro 4tb now and it has newest firmware already, confirmed by Samsung Magician, no need update ;)
How do I update the firmware? Iv just bought the 2gb version
I heard firmware issue and bought Wd black 850x instead. About 2 months ago.
Nice to see Samsung introduce a product while simultaneously trying to dry up supply
They fixed that earlier this year, but you can't go wrong with a SN850X either!
@@TechTesters I got them on your recommendation! 😆 🤣
Great review as always! Love this channel for the no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point reviews. Thanks a lot!
Exactly what i needed to know!! thank you!!! i was Eyeing this model for a few days now and this video helped me finalize my decision! ♥ Getting it next week ♥
Thanks, Nada! was looking forward to the 4tb variants review!
Much appreciated!❤️
My pleasure!
A great review. I just happened to chance on your reviews online and I must say you articulate and express your thoughts really well.
Thanks! :D
Great review and a very good SSD (as always by Samsung). I have the 990Pro 2TB since December 2022 and I faced the issue you mentioned in the video (firmware fixed only several months, non just weeks, after I bought it). The 4TB is still a very solid product but I really don't like those gaming performances and I don't figure out why they are so poor. I think I will end up in buying a SN850X 4TB just for games while keeping the 990Pro 2TB for OS and apps.
P.s. I know it has nothing to do with the review but I love the color and the shape of your nails. Too cute!
Great review! I’m thinking of upgrading from the 2TB 980 Pro I currently use for proxy and render cache on my editing machine to this 4TB. Been doing lots more massive documentary and event coverage projects this past year and my 2TB fills up fast with cache
Thanks! Sold me on the 4tb 990 pro as my storage upgrade for a g14 2024 oled
Thanks! I have an old PC with PCIEx 3.0 (and an 8700K processor) but I decided to order this drive a couple of minutes ago. Glad they solved the problem you mention. I know I'll have much less performance but I will be able to use the drive on a potential future computer when the time for an upgrade comes.
Nada, another great vid on the details of all things NVME!!! You have a remarkable talent for conversational yet thorough narration, and the thing that really impresses - as compared to many of the other YT'ers who do these types of videos - is that you don't have a jump cut after every sentence, LOL. Doubly impressive since English is not your first language. Keep up the awesome work!!!
Thank you for taking the time to make this. I learned about TLC vs QLC and that TLC is better for performance and endurance. I hope w/ the latest firmware these drives are now more reliable. Thanks again
At long last, they have finally released this. Thanks for the testing
You're welcome!
Thank you for the great work you do on testing SDD's, it's much appreciated!
My pleasure!
Leuke review! Tof dat je uitlegt wat PCMark is en waarom je het test. Ik zie dat je steeds verbeteringen doorvoert en jezelf wil uitdagen, ga zo door! Ik blijf je kanaal supporten zoals gewoonlijk, want ik zie een hard werkende dame.
The fact it's Single sided is one of the most important details imo., this looks like the next upgrade for my laptop. Great review.
The newer Crucial T500 would be much better for a laptop if it’s not too late
@@djmecaro Why?
It’s top of the line and runs very cool, which is important for low airflow like a laptop. She has another video on it
It's a pity there is no 4tb capacity of Crucial, yet. Does anyone know when it's going to be released?
@@absolut6959 We don't know when, but they said sometime in 2024
i hope this doesn't have the firmware issues the other two had...
It doesn't, but I do talk about it a bit in the video.
What firmware issues are you talking about? And by other two, do you mean the 970, 980 range?
You think Samsung is dumb enough to have the same issue on this?! And it's been resolved a long time ago.
@@joeyyung911and then Samsung release new batch with slower speed hahahaha
Didn’t realize i needed a Pip-Boy m.2 holder
Great review. Thanks. This winter I will be shopping for another drive as my 990 2t is getting full.
Thanks! :D
I've got an old...like 8 year old Sandisk SSD. 120GB.A Z400, as a bootdrive. 68TB written and absolutely no issues at all. SSD's for a while now are WAY more sturdy. All my HDD's have some kind of issues and clearly visible in any SMART data viewer.
Thanks for covering this item. I just found myself in the market for a new SSD
This is awesome news to watch 🤓👍 Finally a 4-TB drive. I currently own (x2) 2-TB Samsung 990-Pro's version installed in Raid-1 mode installed on,
Gigabyte X670E Extreme Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 9 (7950-X)
GSkill 128-GB DDR5 (6000mHz)
So hearing about the 4TB version is awesome, because I am going to get 2 of them. I thought they were never going to release a 4-TB version. I thought they were going to release
a new product above the 990-Pro's. Like a 1000 or something LOL 🤷♀😂 I am waiting for a RTX-5000 GPU now, and Ill be all set. As I am still running a GTX-1070-Ti in this new system.
I would have gotten the Crucial NVMe but they are way way too expensive. I'll wait. As this motherboard supports Gen-5 NVMe in all 5 slots.
Yeah they took their sweet time :P
Nice detailed SSD review again! Curious to see when Samsung will bring out a Gen 5 drive.
For storage I recently bought a Lexar NM790 4TB in the Netherlands for 200€ while It's going for 190€ now. Would love to see a review of that comparing to the P3 plus and Kingston options.
Thank you! And I should have some Lexar drives included soon!
i have 3 4tb nvm790 in my computer right now. All for gaming haha. Works really well. I recommend them
TY, Probably waiting to buy when they are cheaper but decent premium drive. Have 970 EVO plus 2tb I just got recently for cheap on sale.
That left sound dampening panel looks very exited about this video.
Finally a review that I can clearly watch and assess as genuine and basically the best on YT. Thanks.
Thank you, glad you think so!
good info as normal Samsung drives are the only drives I use in all of my PCs I just replaced my 960 NVME drives in my Z270 I77700K rig with the 970 Evo Plus and I am very happy with them the Samsung Data Migration software was beautiful for cloning my drives my other PCs are 13th gen PCs both with 980 Pro drives in all the M.2 bays along with 850 Evo SATA SSDs in the other drive bays also very happy with them all
Bought this drive yesterday, false humbleness aside, I am the guy who will make the most revealing single-threaded IOPS-wise benchmark showing that 4TB 990 PRO is the king... it will stress 1100 GB swap file for really random reads/writes of size 16 to 256 bytes... brutality itself... will report the Health and how many Total Reads/Writes in TB were done by reading the SMART... the whole torture will be on Fedora 39...
As for your review, it is good but lacks the synthetic IOPS reporting, my suggestion for your future reviews is to include screenshots of 4KB random IOPS for 1GB and 64GB blocks.
Been waiting for this for a while. Just hoping it doesn’t have the same firmware issues.
They fixed that way before the 4tb launch so it shouldn’t be a concern
Nice to see the Gen 5 SSDs being included in the benchmarks.
I wonder how noticeable the differences in benchmarks are in actual use. I have no idea if the top of the chart performer is 1 second faster, or 10 seconds faster, or 0.1 seconds faster than the middle of the pack when launching a game or application, for example. I can tell that it's faster in score but have no way to translate it to real difference in usage.
Great video!
My greatest disappointment regarding Samsung SSDs is the fact that the "Pro" series are no longer using 2-bit MLC NAND, but they use regular 3-bit TLC NAND, which is slower, 10X less durable, and less reliable.
I would like to see a 1TB M.2 PCIe 5.0 x4 drive with 2GB DRAM and 1-bit SLC NAND.
But no company seems to release such a drive.
(Enmotus's FuzeDrive was the closest to that, however, today Enmotus is no longer in business).
Great review. I’ve had good luck with Samsung in the past. This looks like a great buy
I get it, on paper it’s technically faster… but when you consider the durability of the WD SN850x it makes more sense to go with WD
Both have 2400 TBW endurance if I'm not mistaken. And the WD is 90€ more expensive than the 990 Pro in my country
Both 4TB have 2400 TBW. The WD 850 is cheaper than the Samsung 990 by $20 atm in the US. Choosing between the two is tough imo.
For gaming, the WD is better. The test that collects all sorts into real life tests allows others to go closer on score to the WD. But pure gaming, none of the gen 4 is that close
As a photo and video editor, I'm so looking forward to finally upgrading my laptop (currently a budget gamer laptop from 2019 with half tb ssd) to a modern premium laptop and the first thing I'm going to do is toss this 4tb 990 in there for a total of 5tb so that I can stop sweating every time I need to import another SD card full of photos. Also I might actually be able to keep some games installed for once.
I got the gen5 700 1Tb when it came out for $129. It is my boot drive. I have a 4TB gen4 for my second drive.
I am still running with 4 x 1TB Samsung 970 pro versions. The oldest two are from 2018 and the latest 2021. All of them still have a health of 100% procent. I have a feeling the 970 pro still is the best and reliable nvme from Samsung.
This is my first time on this channel and i am very impressed with the in-depth review and investigation. Great work!!
Thank you!
Hi Nada, thanks for the great videos.
Please would you consider a video on the Lexar NM790 2TB/4TB drives. I'd be super interested in the difference compared to the 990 Pro.
Secondly a video for the best type of NVME drives for external enclosures like the Acasis TBU401E Thunderbolt 3/4.
Thanks again for the content.
Thanks for the excellent review! Please consider reviewing also the Lexar NM790 4 TB and the Innovation IT PerformanceY 4TB, both of which cost about 200€ right now, compared to >300€ for the 990 4TB.
NM790 has gone through testing and will be included soon. Never heard of the other one before but I'll see if I can grab one.
@@TechTesters Great, looking forward to it!
Great review, as always.
Should I use 1TB 980 Pro or 4TB 990 Pro as a primary drive? I do have an additional 4TB EVO as a storage.
Have the 1tb model as your system storage
Hey, I’m thinking about this too much haha really need help deciding. I have 1tb 990 pro as my main OS drive and I want a second one mainly for gaming I’m between a 4tb 990 pro or wd black sn850x, they both around the same price here so money is not a problem. Which one should I get ? Thank you
I have a video suggestion for you - Crucial New 2024 T705 4TB PCIe Gen5 NVMe M.2 SSD
super detailed! thank you!
Outstanding!, many thanks for the report.👌
Thank you!
Thank you for posting this excellent discussion of the Samsung 4 Tb drive. I do own 2 Samsung NvME drives that were affected by the "drive health failure" issue. Fortunately, I did the necessary firmware updates on each of the drives. They are working fine today. I was displeased with Samsung for not handling this issue better at the time. When I had the chance to build a complete system based on an Asus ProArt Z790 motherboard, I opted to buy Western Digital SN850x devices instead of Samsung devices. If I could build another system today, I would watch all of your NvME product reviews, listen carefully to your advice, look at product availability here in the USA, and then decide. Thanks again for this review. I think I understand the amount of work that you put into examining the Samsung product and then producing the review content. Both are considerable projects by themselves and require specialized skills and constant training.
Thank you for the lovely comment, always glad the videos are appreciated!
Im using a 990 pro 1 Tb as I mainly stream, light gaming and video editing.
Awesome show love the energy you bring to the channel
I totally agree with you, I’d rather have 2 990’s!
For now, definitely!
I just bought this for my games & media and to finally move away entirely from 2.5" SATA drives. I currently have one Samsung 980 500GB for my Windows and software and two 1TB Samsung Evo drives, 850 and 870. 990 Pro will replace the latter two.
The WD 4TB is now $285 and is better than this one in some cases, so good to see more options.
Important to mention: there has been research that just shows that - the distinction in heatsink isn't WHAT heat sink you get, but just that there is one. - thats the only important factor :)
Pretty much. Assuming it's not complete crap :D
as it happens I bought 2x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB and a 2TB NVMe SSD's back earlier this year.
The 2TB model is running very fast writes and reads.. but the 1TB model is not as fast as the 2TB one.
I may money permitting get a 4TB Samsung NVMe SSD 990 Pro some day.. lol :D
My almost 10 year old Crucial MX100 still shows good health, but it hasn't been used much since I moved to Linux 2 years ago.
Can you please review the Intel Optane P5800X??
Good review thank you - Nice info and spec tests
Thanks! :D
I am happy with KC3000 so far.
Great choice tbh
Informative and valuable video ! Well done !!!
Thank you!
What are the best enclosures for these, i have this is one w/o heat sink and looking at a ROG Enclosure and a TUF Gaming Enclosure
For games, streaming and data analazys related work, would you suggest 990 pro, fury renegade or sn850x ? (4TB in all cases)
Looked for information about idle power consumption of which there was non. Or just power consumption in general...
Maybe you could make a video about NVME enclosures like satechi’s USB4 enclosure and Acasis NVME USB3 enclosure, since most Mac users need this enclosure in order to make it work with their Mac! Would be awesome to see one!
Would be cool to see how well a 990 pro will perform in these enclosures, some heatsink tips regarding using enclosures etc. Etc.
Oh and greetings from Amsterdam, your vids are great! :)
Thanks! I might do something on external cases at some point, but I don't really have a lot of them currrently.
@@TechTesters yes they are a little spare at the moment. But a lot of people are getting into NVME drives and enclosures. Me and almost all of my creative friends, like a few hundred of us are looking for a good enclosure and are on e regularly basis scouting TH-cam and google for reviews of reliable and thermal capable (with decent heatsink) 40 gbps usb4 enclosures, since it is way cheaper, faster and more reliable in comparison to a SanDisk SSD. Especially the latest SanDisk SSD’s ;p.
For now we are running the Acasis USB4 enclosures, a little bit shady company, does run hot but it is working for the moment.
We are waiting for Satechi’s USB4 Enclosure to be available again, which is expected to have better thermal control, so running a lot cooler which as you know will be more beneficial to drive lifespan and better read/write speeds of course!
But we are just creative’s, trying things out on our gut feeling, and you are the pro with the cool test results and benchmarks! So we would love to see the insights (like actual read/write speeds when using a specific NVME drive per specific enclosure, operating temps etc.) from you :)
If you decide to make a vid on it, you would be one of the first to do a proper one, so it would be a premiere! Regarding TH-cam business, I think you will gather a lot of views and subs, since this is a new niche that comes with NVME drives!
Have I already convinced you yet?! Haha
We will be waiting! Cheers
Was pretty much decided on this as the main drive used for os and games (coming from a gen 3), but it's a bit disappointing to see the 3dmark benchmark. Any idea why? Also, any plan to do a Sabrent Rocket 5 review anytime soon?
Not sure why it's dragging a bit in those traces specifically, but it does. Still makes a solid all-round drive though, but if it's just for gaming I think there are better options for less.
@TechTesters thanks for the reply. Any chance you'll be reviewing Sabrent Rocket 5?
Nice Assassin’s Creed earrings. Thanks for the video.
This ssd is better in every way than the WD B SN850X except GAMIMG. I would like to see this ssd vs SN850X 4TB.
Except gaming ? Why ?
So I suppose this is the best nvme ssd I should get to substitute the 1tb oem on my Lenovo P1 gen4, but if i want one for the second nvme slot that is a little slower (second slot is only pci gen3) should I consider a 4tb Kignston NV2 for that or is there a better option from Samsung for that?
Where can this 4tb drive be purchased?
I’m not finding it available for sale
Thank you for the great review. I'm going to buy it.
Hope it helped!
@@TechTestersI have one more question that came to my mind just before i wanted to pre-order. The SSD distributes heat through the heatspreader on the bottom and the controller on the top. Now I have seen on newer motherboards that they also have heatspreader pads on the bottom of the motherboard. I'm using the Msi X570 Gaming Edge Wifi, which has a slot with a heatsink, but it's just a heatspreader pad that sits on top of the SSD. Does that mean that the heat can't really be dissipated completely and the SSD gets too hot? Is it better to leave out the built-in heatsink and buy the SSD with the heatsink pre-installed?
What about doing the tests while encryption is active? Would speed be affected? Surely, but how much?
I just bought a WD 4Tb SN850x but need anohter ssd and will consider this.
I have a SN850X 4TB as main drive and my old SN850 2TB its the 2nd drive, was waiting for 990pro 4TB but abit disappointed with the real life performance on the gaming benchmarks while in theroy the 990PRO is the best latency drive in the PCI4 market, Iam not joining the PCI5 yet since on raptor lake the lanes to the graphics get halved, Bonus points for the AC earrings :D
Thanks! And I don't think you could have gone wrong either way.
Remove the file transfer bit within that test and the WD performs even better. Not everyone transfers files. That part of the test allows the others to catch up in points, still the WD was superior in the full test. And add the 4tb version of it, the others aren’t even close.
awesome review as always❤❤❤
Thank you! 🤗
Love the AC earings
Nice drive but why not a led on there yet?
Why would you want a LED on there?
@@TechTesters Well some cases dont have led hd activity light displays.... I also love watching the led activity when data is loading etc. 😊
Hi! Are you going to review some new Pcie 5 drives that came out like Firecuda 540 and Adata Legend 970?
Will try :)
I would appreciate your guidance on how to determine whether the laptop supports a 4TB SSD M.2. Your assistance on this matter is invaluable, and I thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this inquiry.
The laptop is equipped with the following specifications:
System Model: VivoBook_ASUSLaptop S5402ZA_S5402ZA
Processor: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H, 2300 Mhz, 14 Core(s), 20 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM): 40.0 GB
thank you for the great Review😍
You're welcome!
It's a glitch in the firmware, all affected drives can be updated to the newer firmware which fixes the problem.
Without the Sabrent Rocket VPlus, this is not a good comparison for high performance NVME drives.
Though at least you got the WD SN850X to some degree.
And that's speaking as a long time 960EVO user (still have that in my #2 gaming rig).
Will you be adding the Solidigm P44 Pro to your review list?
No plans yet but always looking to add more.
I watched your review of the Western Digital WD_BLACK 1TB SN770, dated about 1 year ago. I purchase 3 of those drives. I was searching your channel for a review of the Lexar NM790 and the Lexar NM800 Pro but I was unable to find a review. Have you, or would you do a review of these drives? They boast of very high performance and are very reasonably priced. I saw the NM790 4TB advertised on sale at Amazon for $188.90 (USD) Haven't seen many good, thorough reviews, or comparisons for these drives.
Im hoping to have them tested in the next few weeks. But you never know.
I had a question after complimenting you on the thorough test of this drive. My thought on 4Tb drives is very simple, I can get two 2 Tb drives for less, but one needs to have the computer to run that and not all motherboards are made the same. I bought a drive, Fanxiang 2Tb, which has Dynamic SLC. From what I gather, it is great as long as the drive does not get too congested and single level blocks are no longer available. In this, do they really differ that much from QLC?
Thanks! Most high-end drives use SLC caching to feel fast in light use. Cheap QLC drives will really perform poorly though once you get past the SLC and/or DRAM cache, so for any serious work high-end TLCs are a lot better.
I just bought a 990 pro 2tb made in july , do you think it was have the katest firmware from the factory?
Oof, that price though. It's not worth it for me to get one 4TB drive that costs more than two 2TB drives. I do hope NVMe prices keep dropping though. It's getting close to that sweet spot where I can finally justify swapping out all of the HDDs in my NAS for NVMe drives. Being able to rebuild that array in less than a day would be _so nice._
What region are you in? Here the 4TB is 309 EUR, the 2TB 155.
@@TechTesters In Australia: 990 Pro 1TB = $179.00, 2TB = $329.00, 4TB = $700.00 (same price as the Kingston Fury Renegade). Meanwhile the Lexar NM790 4TB = $255.00
@-opus NM790 is DRAMless. Means it's using cheaper controller. However maintains the TLC flash.
@@AlfaPro1337 The theoretical speeds are similar, but I did assume there is something a little off with it given the price. The other drives of similar theoretical speed seem to be roughly around the price of the 990 pro, more than I am willing to pay for a drive personally. I use a 1TB K3000 m.2 for my os, a 2.5" for gaming (since I already had it) and storage is still on hdd (I already had them as well), were my hdd's to fail I would probably buy more hdd's given the still very high price of large 2.5" and m.2
@@-opus I still cannot fathom as to why people are buying these (high perf) SSD as their main OS, or game drive.
You aren't going to see those advertised speed on daily usage. I was initally bump that I bought the 1TB 980, because it's DRAMless, but after thinking it through, it doesn't matter. It's currently at 35TBW out of 600TBW.
There's currently no games using MS DS, and even in the future like 3-5 years, you are on a new SSD already.
I did retired my 3TB game drive (P300) and replaced it with an 4TB 870 Evo, I see night and day difference, especially games like Skyrim, or those heavy 3A games. No more texture streaming.
I'm planning to get some 'used' 4TB SSD (as 2.5 inch) to replace my Workspace drive (Documents, Music, Pictures, Downloads, etc---this is also another 3TB Toshiba P300). By the term 'used' means, that it's on my country's used listing, but it's close to brand new, or just recently, I bought a 'used' 4TB 870 Evo for half the price of a new one---because the company decommissioned a server, and had some SSD spare as cache drive, but ultimately never used.
how is the reliability? is it better than the Evo 970 MLC drive?
Hi, and thanks for the great review. I am considering 4GB for my flight sim storage. This will help my decision.
Glad I helped!
What's best? TLC or QLC? And what does it mean?
Very nice, im thinking on getting the wdsn850x or yhe samsung 990..🤔
Real world and gaming, the WD is better.
seeing the version with heatsink, I wonder,
can anyone tell if vertical M.2 NVME brackets used on certain older motherboards (like what ASUS had in X99 series) would physically fit heatsink (width) NVME SSD ?
What about laptop? Can this Samsung be placed with a heatsink? I doubt it would fit. So is it worth buing it without a heatsink for laptop?
Really lovely video and review. Thanks for the info and the great content. Greetings from Colombia. 😊😊
PDTA: Love your Assassin's Creed earrings. ❤❤
Thank you and you're welcome! :D
Thanks for great review.
My pleasure!
Pretty sure Linus Tech Tips did a Vid on Gen 5 vs. Gen 4's (SSD's) and there was virtually no difference in load times on huge applications and games. (Within a second or two)
Please help, I have an old HP Pavilion - 15-bc401ns that is more than 5 years old, which m.2 nvme SSD is compatible?