How to Motion test the Cervical & Thoracic Spine (ERS vs FRS)

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  • @michelerussell188
    @michelerussell188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can not tell you how deeply I appreciate these videos! I've practiced OMT very little in the past 8 yrs due to a body injury. Now because of you, I've been able to solidify what was once SO difficult to understand! I trained for 4 years, strictly Manual Osteopathy, and was fortunate enough to have an MET course with the late Dr. Fred Mitchell. I will always remember how difficult it was for me to internalize these mechanics! On a practical day, I was nearly in tears, distressed, and working on the C-spine. Dr. Mitchell happened to walk behind me right as I said "omg, this is SO miserable!" Dr. Mitchell put his hand on my shoulder and said "Oh no now...this is supposed to be fun!" It took a few years to become fun LOL! THANK you Dr. Gibbons for making it fun again!

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Michele for the lovely comments - regards JG

  • @vichu000
    @vichu000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for being such a good teacher, teaching with clarity and openness, I receive it with great humidity and respect. ❤

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks - regards JG

  • @mindaugasplacas1566
    @mindaugasplacas1566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are amazing,i just watched first few minutes of the video and i could understand more than after months of my manual therapy classes, simplicity is the key

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great news, regards JG

  • @edge9758
    @edge9758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John Gibbons, not just great knowledge but also great in finding simple ways to pass that knowledge on

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comments, regards jG

  • @MrsSheffield
    @MrsSheffield 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still rewatching your videos and finding I need to keep up with my anatomical understanding. Great to watch to remember what we learned in school.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent!

  • @molanarehmanuddenshamze2885
    @molanarehmanuddenshamze2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the best osteopath... thanks for educating through your lectures and practical examination... I learnt alot from your theory. Plz do share more effective manipulations, release nurve comprations specially L4, L5, secrum, how to cure disc bulging in lumber and t1 and t2

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comments, regards JG

  • @carrd1
    @carrd1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving these videos. As someone who suffers from chronic facet joint locking, these videos are so valuable. Thank you!

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like them! Regards JG

  • @hollycaird2591
    @hollycaird2591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A saint and a legend! Thank you so much John.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats very kind of you to say...regards JG

  • @paulsmith5157
    @paulsmith5157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video John with a good explanation of a complex concept. Thank you once again

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, regards jG

  • @vinitpatil3640
    @vinitpatil3640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb video ....explained in very simple way , thank you so much sir .

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the message, regards JG

  • @karenfranklin3445
    @karenfranklin3445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always so educational. Thanks John, you are the master.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate that! Regards jG

  • @omarkawkab1552
    @omarkawkab1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best on earth very clear explanation

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you think so! Regards JG

  • @coolnerd8056
    @coolnerd8056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear John,
    you are a gift for this world.
    thanks a lot

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, thank you, regards jG

  • @nadinekimani5709
    @nadinekimani5709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for another very informative video. You have such a great way to explain and demonstrate. Just love it!

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! Regards jG

  • @fedlum6724
    @fedlum6724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video. I studied frs and ers in university, but here is even more clear and well explained

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! Regards JG

  • @dharanihealingarts1729
    @dharanihealingarts1729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have remembered the premise quite well reviewing now again.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the message and comments, regards jG

  • @mikecastelete
    @mikecastelete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks John, this is really useful.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was helpful! Regards JG

  • @EducationForAll-qb2yt
    @EducationForAll-qb2yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great Sir,you are a great teacher stay blessed .

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So nice of you, regards JG

  • @dharanihealingarts1729
    @dharanihealingarts1729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining this so well.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful! Regards JG

  • @mahadevstudiobani7185
    @mahadevstudiobani7185 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for more informative vedio ❤❤

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So nice of you

  • @traceystewart6232
    @traceystewart6232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is brilliant…… thank you for sharing.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Regards JG

  • @farhadfatah81
    @farhadfatah81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again another great video

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, regards jG

  • @farhadfatah81
    @farhadfatah81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks john

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the message, regards JG

  • @andreasimonetti5425
    @andreasimonetti5425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi
    Thanks for sharing this.
    I have one question ?
    How much and how you take care about the patient s pain feeling when you do this evaluation ?
    do u use it for the evaluation/diagnose/treatment ?
    thanks a lot

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The assessment is naturally governed by how much discomfort the patient is in - if you do the movements passively then sometimes the patient feels less pain, regards JG

  • @jeremymoran
    @jeremymoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Can you do a video on potential tinnitus caused by cervical instability?

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great suggestion! Regards JG

  • @srirams8075
    @srirams8075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You Sir John♥️

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, regards JG

  • @tylerbeck3806
    @tylerbeck3806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any way this could be compared to the Gonstead Listing system from Chiropractic? It seems like this technique is more reliable from practitioner to practitioner and includes a flextion evaluation that Chiropractors typically do not.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know of Gonstead but not trained as I am an Osteopath so hard to comment, regards JG

  • @MrTiagoZrgz
    @MrTiagoZrgz ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the message - regards JG

  • @ahmedmashaly9410
    @ahmedmashaly9410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks john , your videos advance our knowledge and practice . Can you tell us spine mechanics in scoliosis? And also some say that lower cervical and thoracic follow type 2 mechanics and upper cervical and lumber follow type 1 mechanics .is it true or fryettt's low is more applicaple?

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spinal mechanics in scoliosis is Type 1 so the side bending and rotation is to the opposite side and a Neutral group dysfunction. All cervical below C2 follow Type 2 then changes at T1 to Type 1 and Type 2 depending on position. regards jG

  • @2fastnfurious4u
    @2fastnfurious4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! does this protocol applies for other thoracic vertebrae?

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does indeed, regards JG

  • @shiprasethi
    @shiprasethi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi John. I am a PT. Can you help me with this Question-
    C 6 C7 pain and restriction in extension on left due to hypermobility of-
    1. Left facet cephalic glide 2. Right facet cephalic glide 3. Right facet caudal glide 4. Left facet caudal glide

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Shipra, thanks for message and if honest doesn't make that much sense to me: The 1-4 in the sequence is a treatment protocol if you are adding in Gliding motions of the facets, if you have hyper mobility I would personally leave that segment alone and look for the hypo mobile segment which is typically above or below the levels of C4-C7 unless spondylosis is present or some other spinal pathology, regards JG

    • @shiprasethi
      @shiprasethi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnGibbons thanks John. I was confused too when I saw this Question while preparing for my Ortho exam!

  • @tracyann2958
    @tracyann2958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you please explain what dowers hump is and how to get rid of it.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a build up of extra fatty adipose tissue and can be caused by many reasons, posture can be related so change the posture then the dowagers over time might reduce. regards JG

  • @Bilal-jf3sq
    @Bilal-jf3sq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    جميل جدا اتمنى لك النجاح ونرجو المزيد مما تقدمه للمتابع

  • @lostliger34
    @lostliger34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't thank you enough but God bless you

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, regards JG

  • @mallikaarachchiwkh4157
    @mallikaarachchiwkh4157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learn your program!thank!

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome! JG

  • @albertonappi6344
    @albertonappi6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome, regards JG

  • @jacain1234
    @jacain1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks John. Watching your videos makes me want to go back to school. Lol

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, regards JG

  • @chrishohl2468
    @chrishohl2468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much!

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comments, regards JG

  • @Aki-kd9ud
    @Aki-kd9ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can the ERS and FRS or the type 1 & type 2 mechanics use to explain in the scoliosis? ( I have watch all of your video this spinal mechanics channel and try my best to understand) Make me to study more.. drooling.. lol.. "spinal engine"

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scoliosis is only neutral type 1 group dysfunction as the side being is in one direction and the rotation is to the opposite side. regards JG

    • @Aki-kd9ud
      @Aki-kd9ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnGibbons Thank you sir.

  • @davidhammarsten8167
    @davidhammarsten8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aren't Fryet's laws not actual anymore? When you treat a patient do you think about all of these biomechanical settings or is it enough to search for a posterity / anteriority most of the time ?

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the concept of spinal mechanics and works for me very well in clinic, Osteopaths still learn these in some schools. You need to learn a method - whether it's an old school method or not as still has validity and then once learnt you can adapt these. Most manipulators I have met dont understand anything related to spinal mechanics because they are not taught anything and they simply adjust the spine without understanding the dysfunctions, regards JG

  • @kabe6146
    @kabe6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it is really difficult topic
    I hope so that you will make something else about Spine mobs

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have lots of videos about this subject, regards JG

  • @gravityspinemassasjeogtera6694
    @gravityspinemassasjeogtera6694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the message, regards JG

  • @middle_class_zindabad
    @middle_class_zindabad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love u Sir

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, regards JG

  • @unknownsourceofficial6215
    @unknownsourceofficial6215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cervicothroatic

  • @painfreephysiochiroclinic
    @painfreephysiochiroclinic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir, you are just too good, probably the best.

    • @JohnGibbons
      @JohnGibbons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comments, regards JG