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  • How do Natural Deduction proofs work in logic? In this video, I show you how it works by going through some example proofs. This is part of a series of videos introducing the basics of logic. If there’s topics you’d like covered, leave me a comment below!
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    00:00 intro
    00:42 recap of the rules
    01:10 example 1
    03:57 example 2
    05:25 Proof Strategy
    08:31 example 3
    10:41 proving equivalence
    11:21 example 4
    14:21 example 5: de Morgan equivalence
    16:46 important logical equivalences
    17:22 wrap up
    More on natural deduction:
    Proofs in Logic: • How to do Natural Dedu...
    Natural Deduction: • How to do Natural Dedu...
    Rules for Natural Deduction proofs: • Rules for Natural Dedu...
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  • @sjoerdv800
    @sjoerdv800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    How has this guy only 2.61k subs this is A+++++++++++ level teaching skills thanks so much I will post how my exam tomorrow went

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, hope the exam went well!

    • @sjoerdv800
      @sjoerdv800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AtticPhilosophy yes I think I nailed it thanks man

    • @Maxikinz
      @Maxikinz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @Reva07
    @Reva07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was honestly stranded cause I didn't get how my teacher explained it and I have a test tomorrow you really helped me thank you
    and I would love to see you post again even if I'm new to this channel thank you

  • @frankavocado
    @frankavocado ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That little bit of strategy completely unlocked all of natural deduction for me, thanks!

  • @themysteriousfox3767
    @themysteriousfox3767 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I couldn't figure this out until I watched your video, thank you!

  • @user-jy3bh2it2k
    @user-jy3bh2it2k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you so much, without you, I could never understand the natural deduction

  • @MrLordAzkar
    @MrLordAzkar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! Thank you so much for explaining even the tiniest details, it helped my understanding a lot!

  • @alessf4674
    @alessf4674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello Sir ! Your videos are absolutely wonderful. They're both short and extremely complete + very easy to understand. Thanks a lot for your hard work !

  • @macwas5900
    @macwas5900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for making this video! :) It helped a lot where my lecturer didn't give great examples or explain them well as he went through

  • @gkozgkeiros5750
    @gkozgkeiros5750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you taught me in less than 20 minutes what my prof failed do whole semester.cheers

  • @KaleyRaw
    @KaleyRaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanations. THANK YOU!

  • @cristiancojocaru3541
    @cristiancojocaru3541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how he explains it

  • @userozancinci
    @userozancinci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @natheetarnpanyakorn2954
    @natheetarnpanyakorn2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope you get a lot of subs soon! Thank you for great content.

  • @theMelMxshow
    @theMelMxshow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I'm teaching logic, this is SOOO helpful!!! thanks so much!

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you! How's it going? If you share with you students, let me know what they think.

    • @theMelMxshow
      @theMelMxshow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AtticPhilosophy they had a bit of a hard time, but is becuase mexican universities don't teach logic like in Europe, but I had some students that did really good because they understood the examples (the suppose b, use a conclude c was sooo good! ). I am really greatful for your videos! it made me understand it better so I could teach it ^^ particulary cause as a student this was really hard for me!

  • @ukko8243
    @ukko8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are a legend

  • @CAOVCorp2
    @CAOVCorp2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    coming in clutch ty

  • @klaussserwang2265
    @klaussserwang2265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks, you will save my logic exam!

  • @brain-freeze7995
    @brain-freeze7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro u drop that👑

  • @BillboMC
    @BillboMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is my favourite tutorial video on TH-cam. not my first comment here!

  • @marcosgahan4366
    @marcosgahan4366 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you man

  • @csperi-peri2447
    @csperi-peri2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, not many videos show proper sub-proofs

  • @royeyckmans260
    @royeyckmans260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goat 🐐

  • @sohambasu660
    @sohambasu660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using the above process, we are able to prove left side from right hand side and vice versa.
    But if question says to prove the validity by natural deduction, and we have an expression. then how do we proceed with it ? we don't have any right hand side or left hand side in that case.
    A question in my paper has come like:
    Prove by natural deduction the validty of:
    (P ->Q) -> (P -> ( P ^ Q))
    Please help.

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you need to prove a sentence (ie with no premises), look at its main connective, and use that intro rule. So in this case, use -> intro, by assuming p->a and reasoning to p->(p&q). Good luck!

  • @toe_fans
    @toe_fans ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is a hidden gem, I absolutely love your channel
    question:
    Is
    A \turnstile B
    equivalent to
    \turnstile A --> B
    ?

    • @toe_fans
      @toe_fans ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose I should try and prove it using equivalences! my bad

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yes, they’re equivalent (in most logics). If you can prove B from A (A l- B) then you can assume A, derive B, and so infer |- A -> B, and vice versa.

  • @sohambasu660
    @sohambasu660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my exam is on this Monday. Can you please solve my query:
    for example 4, when we were proving from right side to left side, how did you introduce ~B from A ? what rule is that ?

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You assume A & ~B, and from that, infer A on its own, and then ~B on its own. (So ~B comes from A&~B, not from A). Good luck!

  • @vuppalasrinivasarao5617
    @vuppalasrinivasarao5617 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much sir
    I was struggling in it until I found your video...but now I'm not !

  • @gonzajuarez4918
    @gonzajuarez4918 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heyy thanks for the video. I was just trying to prove the tautologies at the end of the video and came across a problem with one of DeMorgan laws. That one of ~(A ^ B) -| |- ~A v ~B. I can't figure how to start the proof that assumes ~(A ^ B) and concludes ~A v ~B. I have no problem with a proof for ~~(A ^ B) -| |- ~(~A v ~B) since I can use double negation and do a lot more with A ^ B. But comming up with something for ~(A ^ B) is a bit tricky for me

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For this one, you can’t prove ~A and can’t prove ~B, so you can’t use v-intro. The only other option is indirect proof, from assuming ~(~A v ~B). Try that, then you have 2 premises to get a contradiction from.

    • @gonzajuarez4918
      @gonzajuarez4918 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AtticPhilosophy Ah ok. So given ~(~A v ~B), i think A could be inferred, then B, then A ^ B and get the contradiction with the initial hypothesis ~(A ^ B). Guess that's it. Thanks!

    • @markjago5125
      @markjago5125 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gonzajuarez4918 That's it. You need to make extra assumptions along the way (different ways to do this - experiment!) It's a very indirect proof and, incidentally, not intuitionistically valid (since you *have* to use indirect proof).

  • @BillboMC
    @BillboMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    examples speak louder than words. idk just feels right

  • @jtobin1976
    @jtobin1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you breakdown the following formula? ~W • ~~Z, (~W • X) → Y, ~Z v X, therefore Y My logic class is kicking my butt. The truth tables were fun but this part not so much. Sigh....

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That one's quite tough! Assuming . means 'and' (&) here. So from ~W & ~~Z you get ~W, ~~Z, and Z. Use v-elim on ~Z v X gets you X (you work out the steps involved). That gets you to ~W & X, you can finish it from there!

  • @feraudyh
    @feraudyh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    practice is the noun and practise is the verb. I don't think you are respecting this distinction.

    • @feraudyh
      @feraudyh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nitishgautam5728 it's its, not it's

    • @nitishgautam5728
      @nitishgautam5728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@feraudyh right , ...
      Is this logic right? P = Practice is the noun , Q = Practice is the verb , but we know that Practice can be both noun and verb depending on sentence , this is called lexical ambiguity therefore .... It's not clear which practice we are talking about .

  • @user-fh2ts6eq7b
    @user-fh2ts6eq7b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    its really good, thanks but stop putting your face for 5 seconds every 1 minute

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! So you'd like 10 seconds every minute? Weird.