At the start of these tutorials he Stated he was not a Expert. Just wanted to give people a idea of what they would have to do & what tools they needed to do it. Very well done Sir.
Great video demo on installing a standing seam metal roof. Copper is gorgeous when installed correctly. Nothing shows quality standing seam roofs like copper. Awesome job on the video...Many homes in Fairfield County CT have copper roofs on them.
I have done architectural copper for 15 years, and I don't understand why a fold over clip wasn't used. This would be a semi-hidden clip that meets most wind regulations, not to mention, no exterior holes through the pannels. Using an off set cleat is used so the pannels can be screwed down at the top and allows for movement of the pannel with heat and the lack of. Screws every 16 would cause tin canning, or wrinkles in the metal. everyone's different.
I disagree with the Z-Bar, we were old school and did our tops just like everything else. The beauty of a standing seam roof is there are NO PENETRATIONS in the roof itself. Also, our seamers were foot and hand, you guys must have some extremely strong arms and shoulders to run hand seamers for both the low and the high sides on the roof itself. We roofed the old train station in Fairfax Va. Had enough hips and valleys to make life interesting and a great display of our work for decades to come. That job was done I believe in 1984-`85. Everything was done by hand, no fancy machine to make the folds.
ALF FOR PRESIDENT I have always boxed in the tops of my panels. I know with some styles of panels you have to do a top screw in case the panels was to slide, and usually with the top boxed in we will put a screw in the very top corner along with a dab of caulking in each corner.
the company i first started with, we installed the cap and drip first. A company i just recently worked with used z bar, but 10 foot sections and cut all the seams and installed across the top, which leaves a gaping hole 1" under the ridge! I like tieing everything together the old fashioned way, no penetration is the ultimate goal.
As the presenter said, these are the basic methods of roofing with copper....you get far more intricate situations so don’t criticize this guy when you think you are so smart.
Having a background in sheet metal, not wearing gloves PERIOD makes me cringe. I've had stitches a couple times because I didn't wear gloves on sharp metal. But yes, oil from hands on copper can cause funky stuff to copper when it starts to oxidize. Though after a year I don't think it would matter much.
Bob, so many people remark poorly about your details. Having some knowledge about how metal roofing is done in places they know how it should be done, I do agree with them. Your tutorial is pretentious and misleading. It has ZERO experience and knowledge about the topic. It is not that we hate you or something, but you give justification to experts on everything to fool around pretending that they are copper roofers. They do a lot of damage around and in the end hurt your customers. Take this thing down and ask a real copper roofer, a person that knows how to deal with thermal movement, wind loads, capillary suction condensation beneath the metal, making waterproof details w/o reverting to caulks or solder (among many other issues) to do such presentation properly.
Are you stupidly trying to tell us that this metal is too thick to bend in a break? Why would you make this insinuation, when you and I both know it is an utter lie?
Great video, thanks 👍👍👍 - for the crown of the rooftop, I have seen the panels come up like a V and touch the panel on the opposite side then , bent over twice. That is the way my roof was done. 👍
Die Firstausarbeitung mag vielleicht dem amerikanischen Markt genügen, aber das ist so inakzeptabel!! Gerade hier in Deutschland,wo mich das Dach doch stark an das was wir hier Kupferscharen nennen erinnert, die Anschlüsse gehören alle eingefalzt, z.B. am First eine "Büttnerfalz", die Verarbeitung so ist undicht, da die kohäsionskräfte an den falzen wirken, und sich wasser hochzieht oder durch wind hochgedrückt wird, es kommt somit zu schäden da auch oben nicht die falz nicht umgelegt ist^^
TShow I hope you're old enough not to pay any attention to stick in the mud people. I appreciate your detailed instructions. I wish you do a video on 3 panel slate interlocking roofing and focus more on Ridges, Valleys, flashings, hips, etc because interlocking panels are easy, but the hard part are the things I just mentioned. Thanks again, millions apreciate you.
good lord!!he didnt tab the seam at bottom and didnt fold the top!and in all these videos on here they use that stupid z flash to fasten ridge or other areas.All you need to do is fold panel up and fasten ridge or whatever to the seam!!!very time consuming and costly this way !! and the gable trim some of you guys do is very slow and full of exposed screws! there is a school for architectual sheet metal in brittish columbia canada!!! please go there! PLEASE!!! Im not trying to insult some of you guys but you need to learn how to put metal together and with the right tools and direction!!! Not to mention the unsafe work practices like no fall protect!!! some of you employers are gonna get someone killed!!
Zinc is more temperamental. It is nicer to work with because its softer. Cant use it on flat roofs and you have to make sure what the temperature fluctuations are for thermal expansion.
These guys always have two feet on the ground and working on a small roof section. Show real field conditions and how really difficult this roof is to install when your 3 stories off the ground.
oh yeah? oh yeah? well I'm an astronaut! Show doing this on the ISS! Oh yeah? Oh yeah? I'm an underwater welder! He should show this being done UNDERWATER!! To me, you and "working man" sound like complete idiots. Figure out the logistics of being on a roof away from the comment section of a video about the "roofing basics" if you'd like to have more appropriately placed complaints.
This guy mentioned in the part 1 video, that he is NOT a roofer. He is simply displaying the product and application. I'm glad he put this video up for us. It makes it easier for me to decide on buying a stand up seam roof or not.
copper is sold by the ounce, not the gauge. copper + is copper and stainless, but that seemed straight copper by the way he bent the hem with the seamers and didnt have a super hard time putting the galvanized screw in the copper
+2Awesome We always installed raw tin and painted it after installing. Scratches don't actually hurt anything except when doing copper and after 6 months and the verdigris process is well begun, you won't see them anyway.
At the bodega around the corner. You run a good chance that the mexican shopkeepers there will give you more correct technical advice, because Bob seemingly doesn't know exactly what he is doing. (Well, he sell the material nicely)
With 30 years in construction. I would say: Lowe’s is a joke. Rarely do they have the things you need. Let alone any sort of expertise. Go to a local supplier.
Simple non-working roof. This kind of work, should be banned worldwide. In Norway this roof would last max 1 year. Simple work with no details. Probably good enough in the Favela in Rio :-D
thats the old way from back in the day, LOL today we use J channel on each side of ridge cap which is installed 1st then slide your panels in J channel and you dont walk on finished product. DHG Denver Co
you always put a screw at the top of the pannel after you slide it up and then a screw always goes at the bottom right above the drip edge and you really want to use a flat surface to cut and fold pannels. I can see your crimp marks on the bottoms of your pannels you want to use a rag in between your tongs just a tip not bustn your balls! and your seamers have two handles so you should really use both handles with both hands.
At the start of these tutorials he Stated he was not a Expert. Just wanted to give people a idea of what they would have to do & what tools they needed to do it. Very well done Sir.
Ok but who needs tutorials from those who dont know? True standing seam has been destroyed in america because of these types. How embarrassing really.
Great video demo on installing a standing seam metal roof. Copper is gorgeous when installed correctly. Nothing shows quality standing seam roofs like copper. Awesome job on the video...Many homes in Fairfield County CT have copper roofs on them.
I have done architectural copper for 15 years, and I don't understand why a fold over clip wasn't used. This would be a semi-hidden clip that meets most wind regulations, not to mention, no exterior holes through the pannels. Using an off set cleat is used so the pannels can be screwed down at the top and allows for movement of the pannel with heat and the lack of. Screws every 16 would cause tin canning, or wrinkles in the metal. everyone's different.
Kevin meyers Y he not done a splayed end un that eave detail completely wrong un them tools
I disagree with the Z-Bar, we were old school and did our tops just like everything else. The beauty of a standing seam roof is there are NO PENETRATIONS in the roof itself. Also, our seamers were foot and hand, you guys must have some extremely strong arms and shoulders to run hand seamers for both the low and the high sides on the roof itself. We roofed the old train station in Fairfax Va. Had enough hips and valleys to make life interesting and a great display of our work for decades to come. That job was done I believe in 1984-`85. Everything was done by hand, no fancy machine to make the folds.
ALF FOR PRESIDENT I have always boxed in the tops of my panels. I know with some styles of panels you have to do a top screw in case the panels was to slide, and usually with the top boxed in we will put a screw in the very top corner along with a dab of caulking in each corner.
the company i first started with, we installed the cap and drip first. A company i just recently worked with used z bar, but 10 foot sections and cut all the seams and installed across the top, which leaves a gaping hole 1" under the ridge! I like tieing everything together the old fashioned way, no penetration is the ultimate goal.
I've riden the bike trail from the old train station. Great work!
That's nice doing in the factory like to see you do with a 16 foot piece 30 feet off the ground
Any chance of moving the camera
hi. how mach prices the machine?
Christ, I winced every time you slid your ungloved hand along the edges...Get some gloves for God's sake!
As the presenter said, these are the basic methods of roofing with copper....you get far more intricate situations so don’t criticize this guy when you think you are so smart.
What brake do you use to bend the seams? Where can I buy this? I'm looking to do this for siding.
Yeah... what dinoschonhoff said, I think.
This dude made me 💤 borrrring!
😂😢
the clips looks like a different material ,from copper ,n't it bad to mix metals?
Nelson Dacosta . . . He did say it is a stainless steel clip and screw so they can be used together.
Adiós queda feo se ve donde lo dobla......yo tengo otra técnica mejor....yo instalo techos de metal...y me quedan mejor
Art Velazquez oye una pregunta amigo ese tipo de material de que calibre es? Crees que se pueda instalar en un techo de 2 aguas
I really wish he wouldn't keep touching that copper with his bare hands. It makes me cringe.
Having a background in sheet metal, not wearing gloves PERIOD makes me cringe. I've had stitches a couple times because I didn't wear gloves on sharp metal. But yes, oil from hands on copper can cause funky stuff to copper when it starts to oxidize. Though after a year I don't think it would matter much.
It's better to hem the rake edge around dripedge just like the eave .
Bob, so many people remark poorly about your details. Having some knowledge about how metal roofing is done in places they know how it should be done, I do agree with them. Your tutorial is pretentious and misleading. It has ZERO experience and knowledge about the topic. It is not that we hate you or something, but you give justification to experts on everything to fool around pretending that they are copper roofers. They do a lot of damage around and in the end hurt your customers.
Take this thing down and ask a real copper roofer, a person that knows how to deal with thermal movement, wind loads,
capillary suction condensation beneath the metal, making waterproof details w/o reverting to caulks or solder (among many other issues) to do such presentation properly.
at 3:11 you use the words correct and waterproof, your wrong on both counts... as old as you are and still your work is only biginner...
Is that fucking copper. I'd like to see anyone who can afford a copper roof put it on
It would take two years to install a roof at that pace .
Are you stupidly trying to tell us that this metal is too thick to bend in a break? Why would you make this insinuation, when you and I both know it is an utter lie?
He’s definitely referring to a siding break.
No allowance for Expansion or Contraction discussed.
I'll buy some binoculars
屋根の勾配が尺2寸位有る。大きい長い屋根の上に身体が乗っかってビス打ちの作業が出来るのか野外での動画が見たいです。
This is the best instructional on standing seam install I have seen. Many thanks! Where do I get the tools for the locks?
nice video! :)
Great video, thanks 👍👍👍 - for the crown of the rooftop, I have seen the panels come up like a V and touch the panel on the opposite side then , bent over twice. That is the way my roof was done. 👍
Die Firstausarbeitung mag vielleicht dem amerikanischen Markt genügen, aber das ist so inakzeptabel!! Gerade hier in Deutschland,wo mich das Dach doch stark an das was wir hier Kupferscharen nennen erinnert, die Anschlüsse gehören alle eingefalzt, z.B. am First eine "Büttnerfalz", die Verarbeitung so ist undicht, da die kohäsionskräfte an den falzen wirken, und sich wasser hochzieht oder durch wind hochgedrückt wird, es kommt somit zu schäden da auch oben nicht die falz nicht umgelegt ist^^
TShow I hope you're old enough not to pay any attention to stick in the mud people. I appreciate your detailed instructions. I wish you do a video on 3 panel slate interlocking roofing and focus more on Ridges, Valleys, flashings, hips, etc because interlocking panels are easy, but the hard part are the things I just mentioned. Thanks again, millions apreciate you.
I don’t know why he doesn’t notch the z closure out so they overlaps He’s never done that before
You can’t bend bottom like that if it’s out of square
Just start with a full panel and hope for the best
Do you not turn up the top of the roof sheet at the ridge?
No. It is too advanced technique for him. Maybe next year.
It’s not a ridge piece
good lord!!he didnt tab the seam at bottom and didnt fold the top!and in all these videos on here they use that stupid z flash to fasten ridge or other areas.All you need to do is fold panel up and fasten ridge or whatever to the seam!!!very time consuming and costly this way !! and the gable trim some of you guys do is very slow and full of exposed screws! there is a school for architectual sheet metal in brittish columbia canada!!! please go there! PLEASE!!! Im not trying to insult some of you guys but you need to learn how to put metal together and with the right tools and direction!!! Not to mention the unsafe work practices like no fall protect!!! some of you employers are gonna get someone killed!!
failure to show clips close up, better than most though !!!!!
if thats the best tool they have they need to call me
I love zinc but is copper the same as zinc as fitting it to a roof live how would you solder it
Zinc is more temperamental. It is nicer to work with because its softer. Cant use it on flat roofs and you have to make sure what the temperature fluctuations are for thermal expansion.
This was poorly done.
That's pretty labor intensive
my bad on the ridge still garb
On The Job Bob
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😪😪😪🤦♂️👎
Question!!!.... How do you vent at the ridge?
H Silva . . . It’s not a ridge
These guys always have two feet on the ground and working on a small roof section. Show real field conditions and how really difficult this roof is to install when your 3 stories off the ground.
You are exactly right
He forgot to add 12 @12 pitch
oh yeah? oh yeah? well I'm an astronaut! Show doing this on the ISS!
Oh yeah? Oh yeah? I'm an underwater welder! He should show this being done UNDERWATER!!
To me, you and "working man" sound like complete idiots. Figure out the logistics of being on a roof away from the comment section of a video about the "roofing basics" if you'd like to have more appropriately placed complaints.
This guy mentioned in the part 1 video, that he is NOT a roofer. He is simply displaying the product and application. I'm glad he put this video up for us. It makes it easier for me to decide on buying a stand up seam roof or not.
tcchavez40 yes but this is very wrong.
So beautiful
what gauge copper coated stainless is that?
copper is sold by the ounce, not the gauge. copper + is copper and stainless, but that seemed straight copper by the way he bent the hem with the seamers and didnt have a super hard time putting the galvanized screw in the copper
Most likely 16 oz copper
@@coltonholmes8283 got it.
@Jesus Borrego
thanks. It's funny how antiquated the industry is :)
A good tool designer would design the tool to not scratch the roof... The Z closure should come precut too..
+2Awesome We always installed raw tin and painted it after installing. Scratches don't actually hurt anything except when doing copper and after 6 months and the verdigris process is well begun, you won't see them anyway.
koaheart For aluminum roofing, is there aluminum screws, or are you stuck with steel/stainless screws?
+2Awesome lol you have to/should use aluminum screws/nails on aluminum pans..
The Tool Guy There are plenty of shorter aluminum screws at hardware stores, just cant seem to find longer ones for roofing
The Tool Guy Galvanic corrosion though =(
Ja ja ja ja
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3:59 the female slides on top of the male HAHAHA
where do we buy this roofing material? I don't see any "standing seam" style on Lowes website.
ATAS makes and sells it on line i think. I just started shopping for it myself as well
THANK YOU ! From a hand fabricating metal COPPER roofer, for decades."You can't git that hea' ."
At the bodega around the corner. You run a good chance that the mexican shopkeepers there will give you more correct technical advice, because Bob seemingly doesn't know exactly what he is doing. (Well, he sell the material nicely)
With 30 years in construction. I would say: Lowe’s is a joke. Rarely do they have the things you need. Let alone any sort of expertise. Go to a local supplier.
Simple non-working roof. This kind of work, should be banned worldwide. In Norway this roof would last max 1 year. Simple work with no details. Probably good enough in the Favela in Rio :-D
Go back to school 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
thats the old way from back in the day, LOL today we use J channel on each side of ridge cap which is installed 1st then slide your panels in J channel and you dont walk on finished product. DHG Denver Co
you always put a screw at the top of the pannel after you slide it up and then a screw always goes at the bottom right above the drip edge and you really want to use a flat surface to cut and fold pannels. I can see your crimp marks on the bottoms of your pannels you want to use a rag in between your tongs just a tip not bustn your balls! and your seamers have two handles so you should really use both handles with both hands.
Great job on detailed instructions
Thanks for the detailed and highly descriptive tutorial. I can see you put a lot of work into it and it is much appreciated.