Mar 31, '74 Foreman Norton ABC Wide World of Sports

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  • @throwball2248
    @throwball2248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Foreman was the big bad monster. Amazing what he accomplished in his life something to be proud of.

  • @hamdanjantan399
    @hamdanjantan399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The moment Norton looked down on the canvas during the stare down with foreman staring at him with that intimidating fierce face, the fight was good as over

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought the moment he sat down on his stool after arriving in the ring it was over. Fighters never do that. He was practically shaking with fear.

    • @clevelandwilliams5922
      @clevelandwilliams5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@swami1 Would you blame him, look what he did to Joe Frazier. Frazier was totally focused on Foreman.

    • @wmden1
      @wmden1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the same thing. Norton was so tentative, both rounds, you almost knew what was coming, especially with Norton bending at the waste and bobbing his head too often. George had a dangerous uppercut, with both hands, besides being one of the top straight punchers ever.

  • @stlrockn
    @stlrockn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I miss Cosell's calls. Love him or hate him he was one of the best.

    • @drobson8004
      @drobson8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He made every event sound so huge.

    • @peterstorck5349
      @peterstorck5349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drobson8004 He was a pathetic show off.

    • @drobson8004
      @drobson8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@peterstorck5349 A show off? Sure. Pathetic. Apparently to some. The feat thing about democracy? We all have the right of choice.

    • @eugenemcgirt2357
      @eugenemcgirt2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@drobson8004 Indeed. everything he covered seemed like a major occurrence.

    • @eugenemcgirt2357
      @eugenemcgirt2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@drobson8004 Yes, and he knew how to hype an event.

  • @fashizzle78
    @fashizzle78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Norton was built but Foreman looked much bigger and intimidating

    • @nikolailic431
      @nikolailic431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Foreman and Lyle were scariest fighters from the golden 70s era

    • @milojanis4901
      @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Foreman was built as well, or better

  • @jonl4802
    @jonl4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I miss wide world of sports, best super fights IMHO.. Ppv ruined it, now ESPN+ 😞.

    • @mikethomas2641
      @mikethomas2641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jon L:Yes.I miss that program too.Made Saturday afternoons something to look forward to.

    • @phantomstratocaster
      @phantomstratocaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MONEY ,the single most driving force in the world not just in sports

  • @jefferysenter5476
    @jefferysenter5476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ken Norton was a very good heavyweight, he was a Marine, he was not a coward ! Styles make fights, and his style was tailor made for a devastating puncher named George Foreman!!! Norton style gave Ali fits, but he couldn't fight off of his back foot, if he was made to back up ( retreat ) he was susceptible to be hurt by a big puncher,his ability to take a big punch was suspect. Norton style was effective against classic boxers, who could not force him to fight moving backwards! This fight reinforces the greatness of Ali, people thought Foreman was going to kill Ali!! RIP Ken Norton, you inspired me to start boxing after your ko of Duane Bobick! Shalom to all fan's of Ken Norton.... Jeffery Senter Carr

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Norton was Ali's toughest foe. Ali never figured him out.

  • @phild8095
    @phild8095 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back when championship boxing wasn't pay per view, it was broadcast for everyone to tune in.
    Wide World of Sports brought all kinds of stuff into the homes of people. Boxing, auto sports, swimming, diving, skiing, track and field, weightlifting, weird sports like log rolling and rattlesnake catching.

  • @liamg353
    @liamg353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Strange, but Norton looked fearful of Foreman (Wouldn't you) and fought on the retreat. At one stage when the ref waved on the fight Norton looked reluctant to continue.

  • @vestibulate
    @vestibulate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dundee got it right. Norton retreated throughout, and that ensured his early ko.

  • @TimGrimes-q2q
    @TimGrimes-q2q ปีที่แล้ว

    it was a great time to be an 8 year old kid and watching WWOS on a cold ass Michigan winter weekend afternoon.

  • @geraldgoldsby8533
    @geraldgoldsby8533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You had to keep a crisp jab to Foremans head to win. Like Ali did. Also a steady diet of straight rights.

    • @swami1
      @swami1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely. The punch that Ali really undid Foreman with was the right lead. No one thought Ali would make much use of it. Foreman was surprised by it and never figured out how to stop it.

    • @drobson8004
      @drobson8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uh, it takes more than that but point taken.

    • @yourroyalhighness7662
      @yourroyalhighness7662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plus, Ali was far stronger than Foreman anticipated. He manhandled Foreman in the clinches and would not allow George to truly get the upper hand.
      People think incorrectly that Ali retreated to the ropes and held on for dear life while Foreman exhausted himself. In truth, Ali administered a boxing lesson while tiring Foreman out.

    • @swami1
      @swami1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yourroyalhighness7662 Excellent point. Ali showed within a minute of the first round that he was strong enough to neutralize Foreman’s rushes by tying him up. That and the right cross he nailed Foreman with about 15 seconds in completely threw George off right away. It was a brilliant strategy.

    • @yourroyalhighness7662
      @yourroyalhighness7662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@swami1 Agreed. Ali realized early on that Foreman was well schooled in cutting the ring off and had to stand up to the beast. Foreman was listed as being 6'3" but was closer to 6'4". Ali was also listed as being 6'3" but was likely 6'2 and 1/2".
      Also, Ali's reach was 78 inches and NOT 80 as he said it was. In the 1960s Ali toyed with the idea of fighting 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain. Ali had his reach measured on ABC's Wide World of Sports and it was 78 inches.
      Ali and Foreman were virtually the same size and George could not intimidate Muhammad. Lastly, Ali had an iron chin. Add this to his ring smarts and George was in for a long night.

  • @vtlomboy
    @vtlomboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just listened to his interview with cossell and he sounds like he does today like a nice man, I guess if you are trying to take his belt then He proably ain't very friendly

  • @vtlomboy
    @vtlomboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    George Looks like an angry man, I wonder what kind of man he was back in the Day.

    • @milojanis4901
      @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not very well liked. As Larry Merchant once stated, and I quote "he was a very violent, uncooperative young man!"

  • @COBBETT1215
    @COBBETT1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Norton looked tense, fought tense. maybe afraid. Can't blame him.

    • @anjie6232004
      @anjie6232004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Norton is scared of Foreman because Norton is the aggressor in Ali fights. Norton is a coward fighting Foreman here.

    • @COBBETT1215
      @COBBETT1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anjie6232004 You could be right. He fought like a demon against boxers like Ali and Holmes, but seemed to freeze when he came up against against real power punchers. Jerry Quarry could bang but Quarry was over the hill and fighting on two weeks notice when Norton beat him. Rumour has it that a younger Quarry had flattened him when sparring, but there's no proof of that as far as I know.

    • @mikefields2243
      @mikefields2243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He lost before he entered the ring

    • @yourroyalhighness7662
      @yourroyalhighness7662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You don’t know what the word “coward” means. If Norton was a coward he never would have been in the ring in the first place.
      It took COURAGE to face Foreman.

    • @thespy7795
      @thespy7795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yourroyalhighness7662 MANY fighters enter the Ring scared. Norton WAS a Coward in this fight.

  • @jackschenck748
    @jackschenck748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some of them punches Manny would have knocked down a brick wall

    • @johninjersey
      @johninjersey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BIG GEORGE was a MONSTER th-cam.com/video/PiMLt2oSRaQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @stevenclarke8773
    @stevenclarke8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Norton got very bad instruction I think on his defensive style.Cosell said Norton is under rated on defense .What?You watch Norton fights and you will see nobody got bombarded to the head like him.that cross arm defense is ineffective. You pick off punches better when you have your gloves up in blocking position....

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Norton's style was great against Ali(who never figured Ken out) but terrible against big punchers like Foreman and later Cooney.

    • @stevenclarke8773
      @stevenclarke8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swami1 Ernie shavers also bombarded him.norton crouched ,and bobbed and weaved into punches as well.that style is better for short guys.keeping your guard up high is better ,plus you can go from defense to offense more fluidly....

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevenclarke8773 Yes, Shavers almost took Ali's head off twice in the 2nd round of their fight. I recall reading (back in the day) that Norton's secret--really Eddie Futch's secret--was to have Norton out-jab Ali. Just like pressing basketball teams don't like to be pressed, fighters who rely on their jabs don';t like to be jabbed. It obviously worked, as Norton could legitimately claim to have beaten Ali 3 times.

    • @stevenclarke8773
      @stevenclarke8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@swami1 Eddie futch was Frazier's trainer and Norton also did sparring with frazier.i like Eddie,but Norton should of stuck with a different trainer.norton is a big tall guy ,that technique worked more for Frazier as a short boxer.even Holmes and Ali landed multiple head shots on him ,they just were not real power punchers.Norton defense was good if he had been a short guy I think......

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stevenclarke8773 I always liked Futch too and thought Norton made a mistake in ditching him for Bill Slayton. Norton and Frazier did indeed spar quite a bit. They became friends and Norton always said he would not fight Frazier because of their friendship.

  • @jenmilem6655
    @jenmilem6655 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:41, It's "Ken Norton", not "Ken North", jeez! Can't you type something right!?

    • @swami1
      @swami1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jen Milem Huh? It clearly states “KEN NORTON.”

    • @hipphipphurra77
      @hipphipphurra77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swami1 ... broadcast of the George Foreman/Ken North heavyweight championship fight ...
      Ken North Ken Norton
      Ken North Ken Norton
      Ken North Ken Norton
      Ken North Ken Norton
      Ken North Ken Norton

    • @milojanis4901
      @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@hipphipphurra77 Typical Cosell

  • @brucescott4261
    @brucescott4261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kenneth Howard Norton, Sr.

  • @GholamFareed
    @GholamFareed ปีที่แล้ว

    In my humble opinion Foreman had the most devastating uppercut in the history of the sport!!!

    • @swami1
      @swami1  ปีที่แล้ว

      All of his punches were devastating.

    • @GholamFareed
      @GholamFareed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swami1 his jab wasn't really that effective actually, it was not that much of a weapon & lacked precision.

    • @swami1
      @swami1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GholamFareed Watch this fight and especially the first Frazier fight. Foreman's jab was like a tree trunk getting slammed into their heads.

    • @GholamFareed
      @GholamFareed ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swami1 it wasn't as effective nor precise in comparison to Sugar Ray Robinson & Ali. It wasn't devastating at all hence he hardly utilised it.

    • @swami1
      @swami1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GholamFareed Well, that's a pretty high bar. Ali's jab was the best in heavyweight history, and Ray's might have been the best of all. I'm just saying Foreman's jab, when he used it effectively, was a battering ram. Similar to Louis' left.

  • @yoeurnseth3011
    @yoeurnseth3011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching this fight, I feel about Ali’s greatness.

  • @shadicalplayz8932
    @shadicalplayz8932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After foreman fought an exhibition against 5 people, He would’ve crushed Larry Holmes

  • @shadicalplayz8932
    @shadicalplayz8932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:08

  • @ipaporod
    @ipaporod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This PRIME 25 years old Foreman, at this stage in his career only the GOAT Ali could have pulled an upset.No Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Marciano, Louis, Liston, Shavers,Tyson, Lewis, Klitchko, Holmes, Holyfield, Fury or Wilder could have pulled that KO that Ali did against a PRIME Big George Foreman!.

    • @kassios
      @kassios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with one exception.
      Sonny Liston was tougher and stronger than Forman. He was a better boxer too.
      Sonny was also Foreman's early mentor. He taught him how to jab.

    • @artvandelay837
      @artvandelay837 ปีที่แล้ว

      88 tyson would win

  • @LoganCharlesII
    @LoganCharlesII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:11 "And Foreman is OOOOHHHHH!!!!!

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In his book "Like It Is", Cosell describes how he knew the fight was going to be no contest. Also describes what a hellhole Caracas was.

    • @eugenemcgirt2357
      @eugenemcgirt2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swami1 Cosell also thought Foreman would knock out Muhammad Ali thereby sending Ali into retirement.

    • @swami1
      @swami1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eugenemcgirt2357 Truthfully, so did I. As I watched on the big closed circuit screen I was shocked at how quickly and easily Foreman cut the ring off on Ali in the first round. Like most people I figured Ali would stick-and-run for several rounds. By round 3 it dawned on me what he was doing.

  • @JimmyPlato1
    @JimmyPlato1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I will fight anybody at any time" said big George Foreman on this night. But Foreman backed out of 2 fights against Jerry Quarry while holding the title....

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jimmy Plato ... Foreman wasn't afraid of Jerry Quarry.

    • @swedenoble6083
      @swedenoble6083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      big George Foreman duct Larry Holmes for 20 plus years and several other fighters to Kenny Norton was light in the loafers never could take a big meat puncher and was way overrated and I don't care what any of the cupcakes say 🤔😁
      no disrespect to big George he's a powerful man he has horrible feet and he's too wide with his punches he can be exposed God rest quarry soul and I think they should bring Larry back and fight for one of George Foreman's $2 grills 🤗💯😭💪👍👊

    • @JimmyPlato1
      @JimmyPlato1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swedenoble6083 Larry Holmes was a great fighter....

    • @drobson8004
      @drobson8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@swedenoble6083 Where did you read he ducked Holmes in his prime?

    • @swedenoble6083
      @swedenoble6083 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read😭I am a warrior Bucky

  • @jimmysterling1248
    @jimmysterling1248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ken Norton my man

  • @shadicalplayz8932
    @shadicalplayz8932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:43 - 11:00 - 11:11

  • @leonardblush2557
    @leonardblush2557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to have seen like Foreman vs prime Liston.

    • @nikolailic431
      @nikolailic431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liston was strongest of them all

    • @milojanis4901
      @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Nikola Ilić Foreman said Liston was the only guy who ever backed him up. Foreman worshipped Liston. Listons robe hung in George's locker for years

  • @youtoo2233
    @youtoo2233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Foreman later said he was a little afraid of Norton. It took the mighty Ali to beat the undefeated Foreman. Ali was very strong and knew how to tie up any opponent. He also had great defensive skills that neutralized Foreman's power and aggression. Don't forget Ali's iron jaw too. Ali also nailed George with some nasty right hands.

    • @ipaporod
      @ipaporod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Foreman was KOed not by the power of Ali's punch but by sheer exhaustion!.Foreman said it himself in an interview , Foreman's chin was as strong and tough as they come!.

    • @youtoo2233
      @youtoo2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ipaporod true, but Ali was puffing up George's face badly, Ali would've won by decision anyway

  • @ipaporod
    @ipaporod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This PRIME 25 years old Foreman is the REAL deal and at this stage in his career only the GOAT Ali could have pulled an upset.No Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Marciano, Louis, Liston, Shavers,Tyson, Lewis, Klitchko, Holmes, Holyfield, Fury or Wilder could have pulled that KO that Ali did against a PRIME Big George Foreman!.

    • @blackwidowsm
      @blackwidowsm ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot the most underrated heavywright from 70s Jimmy young Itcwaschis fight with Ali that caused sports illustrated writer to call greatest robbery in history of of boxing. It was a young masterclass agsinst Ali yet when decision was read it went 117-111 all for Ali. In a fight Ali was never truly in he was so badly out boxed. You can’t say that about a him in a fight but following this fight there were calls to have government oversight to prevent future travesties recurring. It was not just a robbery but they were so blantant in judging not even trying to hide. Award winning columnist Frank Deford wrote the piece in sports illustrated it at Jimmy young on cover and his reaction hearing decision. They rarely mentioned who won fight duexyo Joe horrible it was judged. Ali’s next fight he returned to normal but in this fight if a fighter had a bad night Ali had a bad night. What foreman said afterwards when discussing fighters than rang a bell. Jimmy young never went through a Olympic program or golden glove tournaments. He was merely the”opponent” he would never get a decision in a big fight no matter how you dominate a fight. Why? He just an opponent in officials eyes he didn’t go through the system. He was being dishonorable just being honest how boxing officials fighters who don’t ho through thier system. That was enlightening. Felt bad for Jimmy young. As did anyone who witness such a performance that night. Robbery was an understatement.

  • @shaharinyusof2648
    @shaharinyusof2648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Norton was obviosly scared of Foreman as kept retreating!! He even dared not looking at the 'beastly'staring Foreman face before the fight. !!

  • @cldavis33
    @cldavis33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beast

  • @tajm9220
    @tajm9220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Norton was a physical freak. Foreman beat him like he was his daddy who caught him kissing another boy...

  • @tolvarr
    @tolvarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great!!

  • @sameerdoultana390
    @sameerdoultana390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you believe this foreman was beaten by Ali like an amateur

    • @ipaporod
      @ipaporod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't call Big George Foreman an amateur, FAR from it!.Ali was just smarter and had much more boxing talent than Big George.Still throughout the years Ali REFUSED to give Foreman a rematch, Ali knew he only could fool Big George once!.

  • @jackraymonzon5963
    @jackraymonzon5963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks like smoking Joe after the fight

  • @mariodavis5619
    @mariodavis5619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avia sponsorship

  • @thespy7795
    @thespy7795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frazier, Foreman and Ali would have stopped Tyson. Midget Mike was a QUITTER!

    • @swami1
      @swami1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t know if I’d call him a quitter, but he certainly didn’t react well when he got into trouble(in or outside the ring).

    • @fashizzle78
      @fashizzle78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mike would destroy Frazier

    • @thespy7795
      @thespy7795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fashizzle78 like he destroyed Buster Douglas? Joe would beat the crap out of China Chin Midget Mike

    • @chuckcollins2349
      @chuckcollins2349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fashizzle78 Mike would have to get Frazier within 3,if not he'd be in trouble.

    • @ملككاتلونيا
      @ملككاتلونيا 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thespy7795 douglas was 1 lucky day boxer
      Tyson was out of shape back then but still his fault
      Douglas was never real champion

  • @peterstorck5349
    @peterstorck5349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALI FLOGGED HIM