JOHN MAJOR'S BREXIT WARNING
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On 5 June 2016, just three weeks before the EU referendum, former Prime Minister, Sir John Major warned that the Leave campaign was “fundamentally dishonest” and “verging on the squalid.”
On the BBC Andrew Marr Show, Sir John accused Brexit campaigners of feeding to the British people “a whole galaxy of inaccurate and frankly untrue information.”
“And what they have NOT done,” he added, “is to tell us what would be the position if we were to vote to leave.”
Sir John said of Brexit, “I think it would be chaotic and damaging and I think the people who would suffer most would be the everyday man and woman in the street.”
Andrew Marr put it to Sir John that Leave campaigners claimed Brexit would create an extra 300,000 jobs, “because we would be free to strike our own trade deals with America and Australia and China and other countries.”
“Well, it’s fantasy,” responded Sir John. “We would lose a huge amount in terms of national income through trade,” he said, pointing out that businesses would sell less to the #SingleMarket if we left the EU.
He added, “I am angry at the way the British people are being misled.”
The former Prime Minister was right, wasn’t he? What a shame his warnings were not heeded.
Watch the video and judge for yourself.
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→ What the former Prime Minister warned BEFORE the referendum
𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗡 𝗠𝗔𝗝𝗢𝗥'𝗦 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗫𝗜𝗧 𝗪𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗚 - 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝟭𝟬-𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼
On 5 June 2016, just three weeks before the EU referendum, former Prime Minister, Sir John Major warned that the Leave campaign was “fundamentally dishonest” and “verging on the squalid.”
On the BBC Andrew Marr Show, Sir John accused Brexit campaigners of feeding to the British people “a whole galaxy of inaccurate and frankly untrue information.”
“And what they have NOT done,” he added, “is to tell us what would be the position if we were to vote to leave.”
Sir John said of Brexit, “I think it would be chaotic and damaging and I think the people who would suffer most would be the everyday man and woman in the street.”
Andrew Marr put it to Sir John that Leave campaigners claimed Brexit would create an extra 300,000 jobs, “because we would be free to strike our own trade deals with America and Australia and China and other countries.”
“Well, it’s fantasy,” responded Sir John. “We would lose a huge amount in terms of national income through trade,” he said, pointing out that businesses would sell less to the #SingleMarket if we left the EU.
He added, “I am angry at the way the British people are being misled.”
The former Prime Minister was right, wasn’t he? What a shame his warnings were not heeded.
Watch the video and judge for yourself.
The tories, making john major seem statesman like since 2016
Every time a hardline Brexiteer appears on the TV/in the media to spout their propaganda, this account needs to be played back to them - John Major's words are so prescient - you can lift some sections about specific issues, verbatim - he was absolutely spot on in his predictions about the chaos; economic, societal, legal etc. that would ensue if the UK voted Leave and the hardliners achieved their form of Brexit.
@@ytcensorhack1876 Well he was,, but the Tory Party is full of wild men, middle and upper class yobs,,
Sorry the main thing for average man in the street is his job and income membership of the EU did absolutely nothing to secure either of them pity they were not coming here to members of the Tory party.
Absolute rubbish membership of the EU is handing over our freedoms and lives to the tender mercies of Brussels.
When conservatives were conservatives, not absolute lunatics.
They were lunatics too. The Tories of the 80s and 90s were horrible. They just took it to another level now.
@@markpalmer8083 really. What did you like? Was it the recession? Or the 2.5 million unemployment? Maybe the continued privatisation of the NHS or high interest rates? .....Like all conservative PM he was a disaster.
@@markpalmer8083 No, he wasn't. He just hid his poor performance better.
@@rocarolan2003 he was just a scum tory. Not an absolute disgrace lunatic deranged scum tory. ✌️
@@markpalmer8083 I didn't agree with some of his policies but I always found him to be a decent man.
Blimey, I did not think much of him when he was prime minister, now I realise how absolutely intelligent and honest a man he was. Makes what we have now look like complete and utter idiots.
Brits don't like intelligent and honest leaders, they hate "elite".
Not many did , everyone found him boring, personally I found him very honest and stable.
I’m exactly the same, I miss the funny little grey fella and his peas
What we suffer under now is third-rate at best, and probably fourth, fifth or sixth-rate at worst.
It's not that Major makes them look like idiots, they always were idiots just as most of the general public.
All written off as project fear at the time, and every single word he foresaw has come true with horrifying accuracy. And those Tories knew it! What they have done to this country in the pursuit of greed and self is absolutely unforgivable!
It's even more heartbreaking listening to this now than when I first heard it however many years ago .
Just as an example, I live in another EU country and before Brexit I ordered things regularly from the UK and there were many good companies I liked to buy from. The English language is easy to understand for me since it's taught in school, shipping where relatively fast and prices were good. But after Brexit prices got higher and I needed to pay import tax and the shipping takes a longer time. So even if I have a language barrier when ordering from other EU countries that do not use my native language or English it still makes sense for me to buy from EU countries instead of UK.
I think that is the case for many people and companies that used to buy from the UK, who wants to buy products that become more expensive and takes a longer time to receive.
Seven years later there is not a word in that tirade that Major would need to retract. His rational assessment and articulate arguments demonstrate just how underrated he was in his day, undermined as he was by the dinosaurs and Europhobic “bastards” in his own party.
If Major had had the courage of the convictions that he articulates here- he should have held a referendum on Maastricht and dealt with the Tory Eurosceptics in 1992. He has never explained why as he almost certainly would have won.
In fact all the predictions that Cash and others made came true, particularly after the 2004 Accession.
For all those (especially Johnson, Aaron Banks, Gove, Cummings, Murdoch, the Barclays, JRM and Patel) who ridiculed the comments by Major and others as "project fear", they should be played that clip on an endless loop for eternity.
they don't vare dude, they got their millions from their sponsors.
Apart from the wine swilling middle class bourgeois complaining about queuing when travelling to the lovely EU and the odd online shipment of scented candles from France costing a few qwid more, what has changed for the average person on the street that wouldn't have anyway? The EU is no utopia. Its countries are getting shafted and it won't get any better there.
The EU as well as the UK is run by corporate fascists (Labour, Lib-Dem, SNP, Welsh muppets, and Greens are the same) that are taking us into a technocratic CCP social credit hell where we will be propelled to support whatever our overlords want.
I haven't seen this interview before, but this 10 min clip includes all major issues with Brexit. Couldn't make this any better - and to add insult to injury it shows how conservative party went full Idiocracy in just matter of few years... Stark differences between this man and our last few PMs
The irony is that the Conservative government of the day under Cameron campaigned to stay in the EU and certainly did not want to leave. Project fear, whilst true, was not the best way of running the remain campaign, one highlighting the benefits of EU membership would have been much better. Nobody expected the result to come out as leave and, unfortunately, various prime ministers since have had the unenviable job of making the thing happen. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but, perhaps, it might have been better to declare that it needed a 60/40 or even 70/30 vote before leave was possible.
@@LeonLShaw I respect your view and as a remainer wish it was so at the time. But I think the "illusion" we have of one man one vote would have been sacrificed had we played the "bookies" percentage card.
Neither had I seen this interview before, which has changed my view on John Major who, at least on the continent (I am German), has always been portrayed as a politician from Thatcher's guard. However, when comparing Sir John to the bunch of present politicians, he appears as 'old guard' in the best sense, being reasonable and predictable.
From my personal experience, I knew that the Brexit cause was lost when the UK part of my family told me they would be voting 'leave' back in 2016 although they are university-educated, had never in their lives voted Conservative and are affluent enough to lead a comfortable life. Their reason for 'leave', and this really shocked me, considering that the UK had gone through waves of immigration from the Commonwealth since 1945, were 'the immigrants'. That reasoning left me flabbergasted, to say the least, as we all as citizens of the EU, had all been profiting from the UK joining the common market in the 1970ies.
The whole Brexit process has shown that despite the abundance of information available, people are prone to be deceived by propaganda and the prospect of easy solutions for complex problems. God knows what price will have to be paid for this turn that has been utterly wrong.
it was a perfect and clear summary for voters of the pro and con's , well mostly con's of brexit.
Meanwhile the eurozone goes into recession and the UK bounds on.
Made Marr look like a puppet of his producers.
Yep, and now he pontificates on the new statesman channel as if he had no part in it..
Yep, Marr's questioning very revealing
100 percent agree
In hindsight what a great interview. He knew and warned everyone over and over. The people did not listen.
As an Australian is was funny seeing the Brexiteers claim a free-trade agreement with us would help....our free trade agreement kicked in last month, and as the UK negotiated from such a weak position we totally screwed you over. Wait till our fantastic fresh produce comes over, efficiently grown on farms the size of Wales, you will have no rural sector left.
As an Australian don't send any of our fresh produce to UK. Recent weather conditions have forced fruit and vegetables soaring in cost or not available at all. Lettuce ridiculous prices. Tomatoes $10 a kilo and they are all water, not worth $1 a kilo. Still shortages of potatoes leading to no potato chips or limits on what you can buy. Maybe meat produce but British farmers are not happy, endangering their livelihoods
Lord have mercy we were really told weren't we! Mad how Andrew Marr framed all of his questions, from the very beginning the Leave campaign had been given such credence and room to breathe, all in the name of unbiased and fair journalism.
Andrew Marr proved to be a pro-brexit goon
Andrew Marr did nothing but talk absolute bollocks from start to finish. That's the state of journalism in the UK. It's just a government mouth piece.
Some would say Devil's Advocate, and St John preached the truth!
@@plerpplerp5599 the line about putting their reputations on the line cracked me up. Talk about hindsight being 20/20.
@@plerpplerp5599the government of the time was staunchly remain , Marr was rebelling against his pay masters then .
To be fair, I was saying exactly the same back in June 2016 and nobody listened to me either.
The vote was basically 50/50 so roughly half of the people you bumped into must have agreed with you.
@@casttolast but 100% of the people I argued with wouldn’t listen and disagreed.
@@adcs88 Talk is cheap, anyone can say anything, it's not about what you can say but about what you can demonstrate, otherwise even a broken clock is right twice a day
@@becausecontextmatters5260 So you SAY a broken clock is right twice a day but apparently “that’s just talk” and because you haven’t actually demonstrated it, I don’t have to believe it ?? WTF
Everyone with a modicum of logic was saying exactly the same thing. Leaving the EU would be a disaster and so it has turned out.
Major in that interview. pointing out the biggest 'own goal ever' in the history of this country, I never thought much of him, but I see him in a different light now, and I know countless other will feel the same as me!
No he's a whining remoaner rejoiner like you.
I agree 100% with what he said . He should be British Prime Minister
Just look at the economy now
Look at the immigration numbers now
Look at the health care service now ( it's a joke )
He should be British prime minister?
He WAS!!
We got rid of him because he was so unbelievably useless! No, seriously, we did.
You know he was Prime Minister, right? From back in the days when they were expected to have a shred of integrity. That's not a job requirement anymore, though. Today you can pass laws, break them yourself, lie about it, set up a committee to investigate whether you lied or not, spend 1/4 million of other peoples money defending yourself against your own breaking of your own rules, then when your own committee inevitably finds that you did lie, you can rage-quit, abandoning the very people you were paid to represent, and fling mud at as many people as possible whilst taking no responsibility whatsoever for your own mistakes. Borris Johnson - the Brexit Salesman.
@@deang5622 hopefully next prime minister" Michael Gove " Then.
@@Patrick_cb Shutup, Patrick.
@@RichieC135 why ?
Why on earth did people think that leaving the largest trade block in history was a good idea?
This was obvious from outside of UK.
But in UK you like people who speak nice and commanding regardless of what they say.
I’m not a Conservative, but I must admit:
I have nothing but respect for John Major.
Project Fear!!!!! ……..err, or was he like err, 100% correct?
I left the Uk for Australia in 2010. And it saddens me to see what’s happened to the Uk. I grew up in the Welsh coalfields in Thatcher’s Britain, and can’t say I had a great deal of time for John Major afterwards either. But I agree with the comments here - the sense, delivery and message of an intelligent man, should have been heard well above the nonsense of others.
"verging on the squalid." i need to use that in my daily life.
A good one innit!?
Michael Gove & crew said screw the experts & their forecasts which talk down the country, all you need is to drape yourself in Union Jack and sing rule Britannia and really really believe then you can defy the laws of economics.
I always had respect for JM. So many people believed the "leave" lies and regretted how they voted. John Major was pretty much correct in everything he said in this interview.
Nonsense on stilts indeed
Probably the best pre-Referendum interview
Terrific piece from the only decent Conservative leader of the last 20 or more years. Hits the nails on the head every time. Now we are left in this catastrophic predicted disaster & people suffer, especially the ordinary person in the street.
He was not decent at all. He was crap, to be honest.
Only decent one is unfair, May wasn't that bad. The pig-shagger and the salad maybe less so, and Boris is in a league of his own in terms of complete disregard for anyone's interest beyond his own.
Media plays a huge role in a society. Fact checking should always be a determining factor. Letting populism rage wild in politics is a recipe for disaster!
6:01 - "Any one nation in the EU could veto their joining" - Same applies for a country seeking to REJOIN...
Those who campaigned to leave and lied to the people should be in jail for what they have done to the country.
Surely we , as voters, had some responsibility to check facts for ourselves?
@@LeonLShaw When 90% of the media pushes the lying right wing narrative getting the truth out there is an up hill battle.
Calm down dear. It's never as bad as you think.😊
@@dartskipper3170 How was Major wrong?
Major should be in jail for signing up for the Maastrict treaty.
Had Europe stayed only about trade, I think most people could stomach that
John Major certainly has a way with words
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I don't recall this interview just prior to THAT referendum, but I wish it had been made more publicly available.
hindsight is indeed a wonderful thing. you might want to inquire if andrew marr did similar interviews with different politicians
If only more of us had taken brexit seriously and gone out and voted we would of wiped the floor with them and wouldn’t of been in this mess now like what someone said I’ve never been a major fan but the man was true to is word and this is only the start I think and worse to come
The Brexit campaign won because of the tactics that they employed and this is nothing to do with any lies. It is to do with who they targeted in the campaign. In any election campaign, those taking part invariably target those people who vote, and, for obvious reasons, this is a logical thing to do as logic tells you not to waste time on those who will not vote. The leave campaign deliberately targeted those who do not normally vote, the apathetic majority, and focused on them and persuaded them to vote. This is the reason they won the vote.
This is incredibly well spoken.
Incredibly fascist, and dirty royalist tory inspired pro E.U. piffle, waffle, and twaddle.
Yes, John Major, example of a great PM about whom his own Chancellor while resigning said, "we are in office but not in power. I had to learn what was happening to money markets on the radio''. Black Wednesday, John Major's legacy
Majors Government was ruined by his own party, Black Wednesday was undoubtedly a dark day but he might have had a chance of recovery if it weren’t for the Eurosceptics. It’s laughable on of the architects of his downfall, Neil Hamilton became a prominent leave supporter. He who earned the title of most sleazy and corrupt MP in the 1990s. I hated Major in the 1990s but I’ve come to realise the period of Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown was a golden period in British politics. We didn’t appreciate how lucky we were with these people in power.
Turned out both Brexit and Project Fear were wildly inaccurate!!!
Boy did he call it or what... Too bad few politicians had the integrity that Sir John Major had
This is a man who have Brits cold harted straightforward facts. If you don't know for who to caat vote.... this and watch pre Brexit debates in Parliament. Rarely you get a chance like this, to verify who is actually giving you facts and not BSing you
Wow wow wow. So much respect to him
At 9 am in the morning: Person A: “It’s night out”. Person B: “No it’s not, why are you lying. Let’s debate on facts”. Marr: “He just called you a liar. Do you want to call him out on his baldness?”
I would guess, Sweden will make sure Turkey does not join EU, ever.
I am not a Conservative but John Major is a great man!
I used to buy some things online in UK store. Since Brexit it was not worth it anymore. Delays, taxes…
How I miss the days when there was such a thing as a politician with integrity.
Are you suggesting major was a man of integrity???
He cheated on his wife not much integrity there
@@s13hgp compared to the current shower he’s an absolute saint.
100% accurate Mr Major
Very well articulated view on the subject. The British public should have listened to him.
who can take this man seriously. ....and expect him to tell the truth. ...when he told us he didn't like CURRY...........
Practically everything he said has come true ..what’s more concerning is that a former conservative prime minister appears to have a larger social conscience than a future Labour one .
I remember listening to Major before the referendum and knowing he was spot on in his assessment. He lays out the true situation better than anyone else has done, and has been proved right. I remember he also said that large scale immigration from Europe was a temporary phenomenon that would subside when their own economies & opportunities improved; that was already happening before we left, and in recent years Poland for example had the fastest economic growth in Europe.
I work in the building trade and have seen a whole row of pay rises since Brexit. Can anyone give me one reason why I would regret Brexit?
I knew brexshit would be a nightmare.
I tried to argue with the gimlet-eyed witch doctors who conjured up this stuff. They were quite simply possessed.
Me too
Why didn’t people listen ? Probably because people didn’t watch programmes like this
Oh! That’s what a politician is supposed to look and sound like. Had almost forgot…
Major was absolutely spot on
John, 2016 was seven years ago....We need to move on now...Strengthen our very broken country, this government has crushed the majority of people with higher costs...Ruined forever our identity as a British nation and caused the biggest step back any nation has ever experienced in a thousand years....Our industries, gone, our engineering excellence, gone, our British standards, gone....We are where we are thanks to incompetent politicians who haven't run this country fully since 1973.....When this country waved the white flag and nobody batted an eye lid
This was the best Tory MP. He was a humanitarian despite being Tory
But all those who mislead are still there aren't they? Gove, Rees-Mogg, Boris and many more all still in jobs whilst the farmers are being screwed through the Aussie trade deal, fishing is badly damaged and everything else that was predicted in project fear has come to pass.
Yes, gammons be gammons voted for Brexit first and Bojo later at the general election. Who knows whether the public will give Sunak another ballot box victory. It seems like public opinion has started to turn, but never underestimate the stupidity of people.
Yes all those Punch & Judy's are still there, each with their escape route for when the country implodes.
The Farmers and the fishing industry were some of the biggest supporters of Brexit and the first to be shafted by Johnson, Gove and Rees Mogg - Even to this day 7 years later there are NO Brexit benefits - only those who shorted our currency and the super 2% who own everything gained - the rest of us are heading back to " the good old days" of the 1930's.
Farmers and fisherman overwhelmingly voted on favour of Brexit and trusted the Tories to deliver on their promises.
They now seem to be surprised that it hasn’t worked out that way.
All written off as project fear at the time, and every single word he foresaw has come true with horrifying accuracy. And those Tories knew it! What they have done to this country in the pursuit of greed and self is absolutely unforgivable!
He was so accurate in describing the Brexit consequences that I thought this interview was done a few weeks ago. But it was three weeks before for the referendum. He predicted the chaos, problems for small businesses and fishers and farmers and even immigration. Yet he was put aside back than as a scaremonger.
No he was not accurate. We voted to leave in 2016, nothing happened. We had an election in November / December 2019. Worldwide Pandemic taking hold from January 2020. We locked down then from March 2020 for god knows how long. The country goes on “furlough” for one to two years. Yet you want to say that Brexit is a failure?!? The benefits of Brexit won’t truly be felt for 10+ years. What you’re argument does also not have any bearing of is immigration. Surely, we must all be racist because we don’t want 500k to 1 million people coming here each year… Argument is utter rubbish..
And all proven wrong. Unless you live in Germany and France, the Uk leaving the EU has not turned out well for them so far. really anyone with a bit of intelligence would see nothing much has changed and it was all due to the covid BS.
Anyone with one eye open would have said the same -I'm certainly not pretending to a expert in politics It just plane common sense Biggest trade block on your doorstep Virus NOTHING it's not even a question. 🥵🥵Hang your heads in shame who took it in hook line and sinker
But that is what is so annoying, this was not an isolated view, this was obvious to 48% of us!
He sounded like he found the garden of the movie „Time Machine“.
this kind of honest debate seems like a thing of the past
i think that was the whole point of brexit, to destroy democratic debate
You guys are Remainers but for some reason you are too lazy to add capital letters at the start of a sentence and full stops at the end.
You're Remainers, you should be smarter than that.
Your grammar is a joke.
@@grantogilvie3458 in what way?
@@hughjohns9110 brexit is a weapon against democracy. no mandate, no majority.
There once was such a thing as an honest conservative. It's an amazing thing to see, and makes me despair over the pack of liars that have kidnapped the Conservative Party.
John Major was a little rat.
@@user-pk4sd9dd2wWorse then those who followed? 🤔
@@user-pk4sd9dd2w perhaps a rat, but an honest one.
@@user-pk4sd9dd2w Talking of people in terms of vermin: That's pretty strong language. Why do you think it is justified to talk about John Major that way?
He was deceitful to his wife and he's not a very good grandparent.
I miss the good old days when England was still ‘family’, still reeling from that day the Brexit voting results came in. I hate that we’re cut off from eachother now, so very very sad and backwards… with love from Belgium
England (or Britain) should have its own family.
@@therespectedlex9794hahahaha enjoy being alone and obscure for the rest of time mate
@@sebatolle8979 So what are you meant to be by comparison? Popular and gregarious? Famous? Mainstream? Doesn't look like it does it.
Don't worry, when the next Hitler emerges, and he will, we in the UK will come and save the sorry asses of you Europeans, AGAIN . Lol
Coming from Northern Ireland and having witnessed john major negotiate many of the difficult hurdles on the road to peace here, people have underestimated the hard work and support that he gave to the process. An honest, thoughtful, intelligent politician, who it seems, judging by the benches at Westminster today, may well be the very last of the breed.
Who lied at the Despatch Box by telling the House he would never negotiate with the IRA, when he actually was at that time.
@@dartskipper3170. You always negotiate with your opponents. Everybody on Earth know that.
@@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 That is true. The tricky thing is sometimes negotiations have to be secret to succeed and politicians may have to lie about that to stop them collapsing. The people asking the questions know that and the reason for the questions are to sabotage the negotiations.
@dartskipper so what even Thatcher had a direct line .
Fact is the man started the peace process and stood up to the DUP objections to get peace
Negotiating with murdering terrorists is OK? Major said it would make him sick to his stomach. One thing you don't do in Parliament is tell lies at the Despatch Box. How he got away with that one is mysterious.
John Major appears as a towering statesman compared to anyone in any of the governments that we've had since 2016.
He is on the point of crying far rather have Nigel Farage.
It seems nobody extolling Major ever lived through the sleaze and corruption of his government. The General Election he lost was the only time I ever voted Labour.
@@dartskipper3170 I lived through it, protested and voted against it, and the corruption of his administration was as nothing compared to the blatantly corrupt behaviour of the current crop of tory governments.
@@dartskipper3170And yet corruption and bald faced lies along with gross incompetence are higher now than ever. It is a mistake to think his administration was bad.
@@dartskipper3170and yet the current Tories have managed to beat his records on sleaze and corruption. 😂
I remember Major doing this. I remember he was also on the radio nearly every mornign for some time, explaining how Brexit would be a disaster from Northern Ireland. That was the first time I respected John Major. I saw that he actually cared greatly about the UK, not just his party or himself. He was open and honest and only acting in the interst of his country, no one else.
His arguments are solid and convincing. What a pity so many chose to ignore him.
It's the same arguement to not going to war with Nazi Germany
@@stewartkingsley are you even thinking before you write something?
@@stewartkingsley?? ... what an utter nonsense !!
Are you on drugs?@@stewartkingsley
@@stewartkingsley What on Earth has this video or my comment to do with Nazi Germany????
You can always tell when someone is British, because they think everything that ever happened revolves around a war that ended nearly 80 yesrs ago. No one who makes such comments was even born till decades after it ended, yet they seem to think they were in it, and it forms the centerpiece of world history and modern politics. It doesn't.
Former PM John Major’s predictions and foresights into the Brexit quagmire were eerily precise. His concern for the British public and for future generations was admirable and I give him my respect. In the post Brexit world, the economy has been adversely impacted for a variety of reasons. The integrity of the UK is under threat with rumblings of a second independence referendum in Scotland. Also the issue of the Irish border was exhumed following twenty years of relative peace and security. Overall, Brexit has been a disaster for the UK and the true effects are still unrealised as yet.
What's amazing is how Andrew Marr held Major up to higher standard than he ever questioned the pro-Leave politicians
Yes all of the so called journalists did.
A keen observation. I was struck by this inconsistency...some might say double standard
Maybe he was just following BBC instructions as they even then where very much pro leave with farage wheeled in at every opportunity
@@le1810 The BBC was pro leave????
Perhaps he knew that he would get truthful answers instead of gaslighting responses. As such, the warnings were there before the referendum.
That line about Boris having a day trip to Damascus was wonderful.
What is the context of it?
@@Litheon11
‘Damascene Conversion’
Is there a cloning lab in Damascus?
Now that Johnson had been exposed as a chancer and a narcissistic oaf, perhaps it is time to stop referring to him as Boris. He is not your friend, he wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. The damage he has helped inflict on the Uk is monumental and will last decades but he couldn’t give a stuff. He is a privileged ponce educated to lord it over the plebs and maintain the interests of wealth over merit.
the conversion of St Paul on the road to Damascus to persecute the followers of Jesus. Jesus appeared to him and changed the course of history. read the Book of Acts in the New Testament!
He repeatedly hits the nail on the head and was spot on about the leave campaigners misleading the public in one of the most important referendums in British history.
Years after the fact, he sounds like a prophet.
Well that aged well. Literally. Without sarcasm, amazing.
Thanks for the Video.
Btw, at that time it was already clear, that Turkey wouldnt join the EU for years to come.
And it never will as long as Greece has a veto.
@@adcs88 Greece and Cyprus. It won't happen any time soon.
not going to happen untill turkey restores democracy and stop supporting islam terrorism groups like ISIS.
Great foresight,
Or just logical thinking 😂
Irrelevant talents in Britain.
Yes, it was just logical thinking, which sadly, the majority of the population are not capable of.
A honest politician ( I’m not conservative)
But Major is worth listening too.
Boris was remain until he seen the opportunity to climb the slippery ladder to number 10.
A slippery guy up a slippery ladder, what can go wrong?
Johnson wasn't ever pro remain or pro leave. He was always simply self obsessed. His only ideology is self aggrandisement
This clip deserves be replayed at full length during prime viewing time on a major channel as a “historical” comment on the most recent news developments.
Yes; And it should ideally be a "Major" channel.
I’m thinking this was never put out. I never voted for it and 62%of Scotland never voted for it either
Sadly no consequences for the members of the leave campaign. Only the ordinary people now paying the price as a consequence 😢
So true...
I imagine the members of the leave campaign, politicians, lobbyists, sponsors, tax-dodging billionaires, Tufton St. thinktanks, etc., are busy counting the 'consequences' of their deceit right now...I, of course, include the odious Farage...who is still claiming his MEP pension.
Yes, telling líes and cheat to the ordinary people in decisions are going to directly affect their lives and their families it's not ilegal. It's a nosense.
They voted with ignorance against their own interests by believing lies. They should have listened to this guy.
Exactly as predicted by Sir John.
Why dont replay this interwiev in prime time tonight on BBC? He nailed it.
Tripe
Remàiners onlly lost the Brexit referendum because cameron took it for granted leavers would lose and that the british would never be so idiots .... Well, great lesson, never take anything for granted
I am one of the 88 millions Turk. I also have a french passport because my mother is french and I used to live in uk at the time and when I used to see that board you cannot imagine how afraid and sick I used to feel. Can you imagine if we would have wrote about another country we will have all said this unacceptable. What they really wanted to see basically is 88 Muslim are going to come but they could not step that low. Such a shame that such a great country like England who produces such talent went that low. Well done to Sir Major, his eloquence, wisdom and intellect are impressive.
I think most British are afraid of muslim. Politicians know that. They take advantage of that fear.
Imagine if Israeli politicians tell their citizens that Palestinians will be allowed to move out of Gaza strip and live among them. They will be very scared.
@@ps3301 I do not understand the comparisons . First the Palestinian should be allowed to leave Gaza Strip which basically the biggest jail on earth. Brexit was just based on lies. They throughout the hot potatoes and the wild card of immigration ! I heard lot of this people said I voted out but there is still so many foreigners in uk, why ? We basically voted out to get control back !
You think you're queasy? I'm sick to death of seeing your barber shops
@@therespectedlex9794 I am sick to see your drunks with their tattoos shouting and pissing on the train too. 😂😂😂
Everything projected here happened and is happening and will continue to happen until this madness stops
And it will get worse. This autumn inbound checks come in place. That means less imports and higher prices.
the madness is never gonna stop now when you take into consideration the real reason for brexit and if you take that into consideratrion its all going according to plan because the banks aint opening up the books to the eu and exposing the fact london is the organised crime money laundering capital of the world so far as their concerned its going according to plan
@@elipa3And if we in Europe have a bad agricultural yield due to increasing climate change, that would really really pressure the markets in Great Britain.
Just wait until the Euroclearing leaves London and is moved to EU where it belongs. The Euroclearing turns over some 1 trilion USD a day and would leave an estimated loss of revenue worth £ 80 billion a year and thousands of lost jobs.
@@FuriousImp im not worried abvout that the best ones going to be when the uk has to enforce import rules and have to stop waving them through thats going to be the cherry on the cake for brexit britian and watch them supermarket dhelves empty and the price of food gets to a fiver for a loaf of bread amd forget about nice food from the eu and all rest of it theres certainly nicely building up to a war i'll give it that one i said that brexit was more than likely to end in a yugoslavia style civil war in the uk its coming theres no way out of it really when the food imports have to be checked no ones gonna bother sellin g to uk markets cause why bother when you got to fill out a set of enecyclopedias every time you export to the uk so that will be bithways as of autumn this yr
As close to biblical prophesy as it gets.
I do wonder about the level of intelligence of the English people...I guess alcohol and love island dulls the senses.
Stereotyping there. I have two degrees and a professional position and I voted leave - I also stand by my decision. We all have different opinions so no need to insult just because others disagree with you 😊
A great man with a clear view. I‘m from germany and i‘m very sad about the Brexit. I think, it is a matter of lost opportunities. Without GB in the EU we have lost a valuable voice. Very sad for the britisch People and also very sad for us.
But the EU will not have to deal with a troublesome UK forever!
I don’t know how I would have viewed that interview in 2016, but now I view it as a work of genius.
Not genius ...questioning these in power
You know you are in deep trouble when simple common sense is regarded as genius
what a great interview ,every word spot on,thank you for reminding us
Add capital letters and full stops.
I’d never liked John Major until I saw this. Got a lot of respect for him.
More respect than he had for his marriage vows ?
@@jonathanwardle2052 What does his marital life have to do with anything, you sensationalist donkey?
people never appreciate what they had until they dont have it anymore
I always thought he was way underrated. He was the first and last Prime Minister to have lived in a council flat. A highly intelligent man who knew about people. Had the patience to listen to other peoples points of view and then formulate a strategy, not bulldoze his own ideologies through.
I wonder iff he still Tuck's his shirt tails into his underpants, along with his few brain cells? Lmao.😅
The saddest thing is that most Leave voters will probably learn nothing from this whole miserable experience, preferring instead to close their eyes and descend in conspiratorial drivel rather than accept they were misled. I hope I am wrong, but that is certainly the impression I get from all the Leave voters I know personally.
All the while imploring us to "move on" and heal the nation. Such hypocrisy is worthy of having a special base-metal medal struck in its honour.
Leavers won't admit to changing their mind, even if they have internally. Nobody wants to admit to making a mistake. None of them saw the big picture the way Sir John did, and they were clearly misled on several levels. Big sigh.
@@lefranglais1155 I agree. It's very sad, I don't know what to do. I don't believe in the power of civil society to gradually move towards truth anymore. That method only works if people participate honestly, but they don't.
@@williamhenry8914 Best comment! It's the 'mauvaise foi' of almost everyone, including Tory voters, that gets me most
He is on the point of tears because he cannot have his own way.
"And so shall it come to pass" it's just a shame not enough people listened to common sense and let xenophobia blind their judgement.
In a nutshell!
In two nutshell
UK as a EU member was like a child crying every day with the pockets full of chocolate... asking for more. Now they are in the reality!
Haven't the British always been? Even in 1914, when they forcibly suppressed 1/4 of the earth's surface but did not even allow the Germans their six and a half worthless colonies?
Wouldn't you be if you contributed as much as we did? Many EU countries still haven't put as much funding into the EU
@@JoeeyTheeKangaroo Would you have understand like 1% of what is happening now in UK, and what was said in this very video you seems to watched, because of Brexit, you would have understand how idiotic that response is. I am sorry to being so rude, but I don't know how to say it in a less rude manner.
The benefit UK took from being part of the EU during all these years are immensely superior to what it cost the british taxpayers. That was the very point of common market, and the common market was not even the main part of EU.
@@JoeeyTheeKangaroo France contributed more than us despite us having a higher GDP. Explain
@@Me0wish We got more back than the French.
Every single thing he said has been proven right. This could have been written yesterday for it’s accuracy. What a shame so many took no notice. Whether the Brexit damage will be permanent is hard to say, but it’ll certainly be long lasting and the average man, woman and child in this country has seen a significant drop in their standard of living as a result.
don't listen experts.
Fools said and other fools followed.
I fully agree.
The brexit damage will progressively get worse. The supply chain is already shifting
I predict the UK will be on its knees within 10 years. So sad. But deserved as they really never embraced the EU or the Euro currency due to their racist views.
@@josephj6521 What exactly do you mean by "racist views"? Can you explain it in more detail for a European like me?
Everything he warned about has transpired. I’ve never been a fan of his politics, but he is undeniably a very astute man
In the Thatcher era with Party rabid Right howling in his ear he was a small relief ,
It definitely hasn’t. We’re in halfway house of politics , neither in our out. The will of the people has not been acted upon and it makes all the negative people jump on this nonsense bandwagon. Major had his chance as PM and screwed it up.
@@hi-tech55 Its sad to hear people such as yourself are still so deluded and have closed ears and minds ....Try listening for a change ,, The lies were real and serious,, Probably you did not care as an acolyte for the delusion but many who would not have voted for Brexit did so on the basis of lies and that is an affront to democracy.. Its a fantasy you believe Jerry ,,The " brexit you voted for " was only in your mind and supported by lies it could never be , and never will be,, Very sad,,
@@hi-tech55 off your medication?
@@copperdragon9041 don’t be silly
You know what else will effect British people for a very very long time? Unchecked immigration, but the Tories had a back up plan here and let millions of immigrants in 'legally' even with Brexit. Time to for Tories to go....Nigel!!! where are you??
he was grey dull boring .He was also honest ,decent,intelligent and on brexit totally vindicated
John Majors was so eloquent and prophetic back then… tragic the British people didn’t heed his warnings.
He is an bitter remainer and could not accept the Referendum result if it were held again with the same result which I expect it would be he still will not accept just think of all the EU jollies they are now excluded from
If being on the point of bursting into tears because he cannot get his own way, his wife I am sure knows what he is.
pity Edwiner did not
@@ericatkinson9285 You have deliberately ignored the point completely. He was thinking of the man in the street, not the elites. Most remainers have accepted their lot and are trying to make the best out of a very bad situation. But leavers, like you, are hiding their bitterness by projecting it onto them.
@@duprattcarolThe Major years of government were epically corrupt. Brown envelopes stuffed with cash for questions, ministers involved with sleazy relationships, sometimes with each other. Major himself was involved heavily with his Minister of Ag and Fish. The electorate were disgusted with him and his government.
The problem is most people don't have the patience or ability to concentrate for more than a minute, to listen to well thought out and sensible thoughts. Hence why we are where we are,and hence why politics is where it is. So sad.
John Magor must have had a crystal ball because everything he said has happened - shame people believed johnson instead of him
Not a crystal ball - but a man who could do joined-up thinking and had real experience of the UK in Europe. But then Gove told us 'We've had enough of experts" So let the idiots run the country and look at the bloody mess we're in now.
They would do, getting across to an audience is a difficult and complex process and depends very much on the charisma of the speaker. Johnson has a lot of charisma and cultivates a deliberate public image, which is very different to how he is when the cameras are turned off. Major was right in what he said but was always going to have a credibility problem because he is not a natural charismatic speaker. If you want to see the point I'm making watch some of the American evangelical preachers who can move and audience, and their wallets!
I was saying exactly this in 2016, it didn't take a politician to figure out the damage leaving the EU would do to our Economy. Ask any sane businessman/woman. The problem is for a number of years populist politics has ruled the roost in this country. Tell people what they want to hear, rather than the truth. Today working class people who fell for this ruse by vote leave are now paying through their pockets, you could almost argue you reap what you sow.
Where were you in 1973 when the likes of Tony Benn were arguing against the loss of Sovereignty and also control of many regulations passing to the Brussels Beaurocracy? Many lies were told then, but remainers ignore that truth.
You're spot on. And they still have the brass neck to deflect blame onto the french for allowing an invasion.
Tried to point out all john said often. I knew I would fail when my brexit friends flatly denied the EU was an elected house. Can't argue with unicorns 😢🎉🎉🎉😅
Uk imports have reduced, UK exports have remained the same. How is that catastrophic?
@@abacussin If you believe that, I know someone who'd like to sell you a bridge.
Right on the mark, like so many others at the time, yet so many people deliberately chose to ignore.
The question is why did they vote for Brexit. I suppose some believed the Shysters, but I think year after year of austerity played its role. Communities in decline and people facing falling living standards due to government policy. Offered a false hope, why not give it a go, after all what did they themselves have to lose? At the very least, it was one in the eye for the 'establishment'.
All a bit short-sighted, ill-informed and irresponsible. They have landed themselves and everyone else in a worse position.
Currently, the Labour Party are not helping by suggesting there is a 'better Brexit' to be had. This is simply delaying the day we need to face reality.
I think that people could see the country going downhill, ‘Going to Hell in a handcart’, ‘Going down the plug hole’.... Cameron and Osborne’s austerity ripping the guts out of the country which they could see slowly filling up due to the influx of immigrants. The Tory policy of handing out contracts to companies to deal with problems rather than handle it through Government services saw large numbers of them shipped to the North of the country where housing was far cheaper to provide than in the South. That’s why I think the Newcastle/ Sunderland areas voted in large numbers to leave.
Well said.
Why did the electorate voted for Brexit?
It is a good question but I reckon the answers are complex and multiple.
One of the answers lies in the timing, for which I blame the reckless decision of David Cameron. A number of voters have made a long-term bearing decision from short-term fearful feelings.
In these years, EU was facing:
(i) the tailing effect of the 2008 economic crisis with Greece still under recovery plan and years of austerity in UK
(ii) security issues with the 2015 terrorist attacks in France, Belgium and Germany.
(iii) a migrant crisis with Turkey opening the gates of its Syrian refugees to the EU, and migrants massing in Calais, trying to cross the Channel.
Why do you think Nigel Farage wanted to put immigration at the heart of the debate?
All that gave a worrying picture of EU that was actually use as… guess what… scaremongering!
All these problems have now been solved, but the consequences of Brexit will long be felt by UK…
This is how people can be lured by unscrupulous, corrupted and prejudiced politicians; just by playing with the fear, anxiety, and nostagia of the general public.
In the same line of idea, ask yourselves how did the Germans voted in majority for the Nazi party led by Adolf Hitler in 1933?
It is important to figure out how collective psychology shape the history of our societies.
Learning history must be used as lessons for the future, and to gain wisdom for nor repeating the same mistakes over…
The is what happens when your political system is basically a two horse race like the USA, and the jockeys are Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dummer.
Also got to do with British Imperialism attitude.
As an Irishman, I find it hard to believe that the British (let's be honest, the English) were so gullible as to believe the lies from the Leave campaign. I spoke with several business men running their own export businesses who had no concept of why I could no longer deal with them once GB left the EU. They had never dealt with customs or tariffs or clearing agents, and once GB left, they were astonished that it would be cheaper for me to send machine parts to Poland for repair than to England. GB will be fine in the long run. In 1922 we left the biggest trading block in the world to gain our independence, however it took us 100 years to rise from the mire , but, rise we did. So will GB if it still exists. Let's hope it doesn't take you as long.
I fear the Welsh also had a majority to Leave voters. Agreed the English fell for it hook, line & sinker.
I heard a caller on LBC saying she knows that her business will probably end up filing for bankrupcy but it was all worth it to get sovereignty back...
100 years! They should be so lucky.
@@Iustinfm She deserves to lose her business..
1922-2022 were different times than now with completely different opportunities. The British will not be able to hold their own in the age of globalization. Even in Australia, they are laughed at for what they have to offer the world: th-cam.com/video/wkXSR3_Ixwc/w-d-xo.html
I’ve never voted tory but I have to admit this guy genuinely seems to cares about his country and it’s citizens.
True words and that is because he came from humble beginnings, unlike most the our politicians from all parties.
He was your prime minister before Tony Blair yet a hell of a lot of people decided to ignore his accurate and well informed advice!
It is a shame then that he didn´t give a f--- when he was PM!
@@s13hgp 😂