Yeah being forced to take low paying no tip orders, while you put a lot of miles on your car with no help from the company for maintenance. Also not having any health benefits in the US doesn't help. I had to go back to get a regular job.
It's only going to get worse when minimum wage gets implemented in BC. People don't realise that gig work is oversaturated which is why there's no way it can support the minimum wage. So people will be sitting around for orders.
Well I still get over minimum wage when I do gig work , it's just I have to be very selective on when I go out BUT it's not that much over minimum if I'm being honest
I’ve been doing these apps for six years and I find it hard to quit gig work because you may agree with me on this, I’m so used to it rather than having a demanding job that may pay nearly the same but also I’m not sure how much time I have to devote to looking for a job outside of work. This is in addition to how difficult it is to get an job interview than ever here. Strange enough, things have picked up in my market and this June was my highest earning month since March of last year.
And that's why I make it important to express that this isn't towards all gig workers. Some like it and want to stay and that's great. For me it's the idea of being told what to do from a manager (As bad as that sounds) being my own boss has taught me more about self respect and how little I received respect while under an employer.
There's actually more than just those two who have done it. However if I'm correct , Mooshi does other content now. I don't really watch any of them to be honest because gig work just annoys me
the reason is Some areas are flood with delivery drivers and there is little to no money to really be earned left , just watching the gig work videos alone see this more and more there are so many delivering one or 2 get all the best paying and in the end it trickles down for the rest so there is barly enough to pay for the gas to do the driving the other issue is the number of apps all delivering for the same places
I wonder if you were referring to my situation about the car lol it sucks because I do want to return to gig work, but I really don't know if the pay will be worth it anymore. This is kinda ruining it for me lol anyhoo, great video and hope you're having a good one, Ash!!
Hahahah when it comes to the break yes! Only the fact that breaks are a big deal and when they go, we can't do gig work lol I am never amazed with you catching the good parts of a video Kenny lol my brother doesn't even do gig work anymore and his front breaks are burnt haha so it happens to the best of us lol
I’ve been doing DoorDash in San Francisco since 2020 and it had plenty of opportunities, but have been doing do that less frequently recently. I do rideshare more than food delivery with both Uber and Lyft
The illegal immigrants on scooters is ruining it for me, they are the ones scamming restaurants and customers, leading to bad treatment from both now. You know how frustrating it is when the employees ask to confirm it, and they basically grab your phone to make sure. I feel like I’m being treated like a thief and I’m a top dasher. When they ask me to confirm I’ll then go down the list making sure they didn’t mess up and throw it right back at them professionally.
I agree with you on this one. I know 1 bad apple can ruin it for the rest but it shouldn't be treated like that when there is so many good guys out there doing this work.
@@ChosenOneLife bingo DMV is my area and most people can’t stand them. They cut in-front of traffic, run lights/stop signs, rude, and take work from legal dasher.
it is absolutely a losing game and they know that. Temporary, or to help with debt at best...ultimately not designed with your best interest in mind. I'm back to a job and putting delivery on the back burner until i can be done with it forever
It’s not a losing game. You just don’t know how to play it. People keep acting like it’s one or the other. Either you have a W2 job or you do gig work. It’s not. Smart people will have a W2 job and do gig work on the side for extra cash. That’s how you game the system. If you don’t rely on gig work, then you can just cherry pick and get the best orders.
It works with different incomes. For example if someone does ONLY gig work for their entire job, then no it won't balance the books but if you do gig work and you have another job. Yeah I find it's much better.
@@SiriusV21 it's all very situational and dependent on the market you're in...ie; oversaturation of shoppers etc. We know how to play it, it just doesn't pay enough to outweigh the cost of doing it, but if it works for you then fill your boots
@@lulabloom4636 My market really isn’t that great and I still can consistently make $800-$900 a week doing this just part time using DoorDash and Uber. Cost isn’t that much at all. I only take orders that are a minimum $2 per mile and my car gets great gas mileage.
i do gig work for a side job ! pay down debt and vacation money ! my goal is 20,000.00 a year ! people always need groceries ! yes the restaurant's have drop big time !
Wow! $500 for just the front brakes? Who would pay that? Has anyone every changed a tire for a spare tire? Changing the brakes is just 4 extra bolts and maybe 2 screws. I would laugh in someone's face if they tried to charge me that much for just the front brakes. If you watch a TH-cam video or two, you can order parts on Amazon, brake pads and discs and it's basically the same as changing a tire.
@@DashWithAshinCanada Amazon. I bought brake parts from them for around $125 if you include tax, for everything needed. Brake parts are brake parts. When you walk into a shop, they have all these diagrams and pictures to try to upsell you on a product. Dealerships especially have high overhead costs that they need to cover. That's what you're paying for. When I bought my car a few years ago, oil changes were decently priced. Oh, but there's a scandel with Kia / Hyundai. The TH-cam channel, the Instagram channel, the TikTok channel... The Kia Boyz. Now they want to charge me $80 for an oil change. Nope. These companies are getting sued and passing that cost along to their customers.
@@machinesnmetal I we assume "close to a six figure income" is at least 85k a year, you basically just said about 2/3 of Americans should never have children.
PENSION??? In all honesty, 80% of gig worker's need same day pay to eat and have gas money! 90% of gig worker's cant afford a $500 car repair bill and will be out of work if it happens. Its just a part time thing during busy hours, or if you have free time in between a stable job with benefits. Most drivers dont have supplemental insurance for this work, and if something happens, they're not even covered. The first question an adjuster will ask is if you were doing gig work when the accident happened. Regardless of whos at fault!! Smart people will answer no!! Regardless! You could lose your house or any assets. Not only is gig work not really profitable, its dangerous on many levels. It really is a scam. Use your brain here people. Scam but not a game where youre involved! Lots at risk. For a $5 average assignment?? In this economy???
Yeah pensions are not a thing for most with gig work but as you said. A $500 repair job isn't even in the cards. I would love to see more people do this part time or as a side hustle but something tells me many will remain full time.
@DashWithAshinCanada Actually I totally agree with your video assessment that people are dropping out. They absolutely have to. There was a fairly long cycle during covid and even beyond where you could turn enough profit to make it work full time. I know, I did it and I'm retired, but the money was there so why not. But that boom cycle, created a false expectation for everyone. It's been cut by 60% from from those good ol days. Thats based on my earnings per hour on the apps and i always had a set price for my deliveries and only took orders that fit my criteria. The current environment is not sustainable. Another good, coherent, truth video. No smoke n mirrors. Just an honest look. Good job.
You have to foot the gas up front before you even make .1 cent then work for hours to get tax's paid on the money you make and then car breaking down and then deal with the people lying about the food and getting their money back while they hold money against your account for months and not get paid if you are doing cash orders. charge back up to year on any money you made on tips..
Maybe to you all of Canada hates Quebec but that's not the reality and Quebec will never leave and if they did, I would leave anyways because I am Canadian first, not Quebecer. I was just born and raised here so I got used to it.
@@DashWithAshinCanada Quebec very nearly did leave back in 1995. The referendum failed by a margin of 1%(+/-). I think it was Jean Chretien (I might be mistaken on the PM) that said that if it comes down to another referendum all of Canada gets to vote, not just Quebec like last time. You better believe if there ever is another referendum, Quebec is outta here!
No. I’m waiting for others to quit because here in Toronto we’re overpopulated thanks to Trudeau. I’m sure it’s all of Canada, but Toronto is one of the biggest cities in Canada. This year is a lot worse too because economies weaker and immigrants/refugees, etc. are choosing to do Uber or gig work whether it’s food or driving people. I noticed a big difference in 2024. But I’m sure in 2020 onward it was a lot hotter as you briefly mentioned. And then auto insurance when you do get the right auto insurance you’re paying $100 or more a month and you can only do one company Uber. They say you can’t do DoorDash and all that other stuff. And I got very upset with the insurance company. I said well maybe by the end of the year that will all have changed! 😤 and when I Google it right here in Canada, it’s basically says you can get commercial insurance but you don’t need personal. You have your personal insurance but you don’t need to pay more like because Uber Uber and apparently DoorDash now offer that too! This is another money grabber for the insurance companies to abuse us, etc. in the US, they don’t have such problems with coverage and things and I know in California I just found something I sent it to my friend, but this is for Uber cab or whatever Uber rideshare ride for 2024 the statistics was put out in March. They make like three 4000 a week. I’m sure the food delivery is not far behind. I mean, obviously you live in a small town or city you know maybe it’s harder to make bigger money like that but the biggest city and Canada and this year making $1000 I have to work longer as well and some days, Uber just does not allow you to make more than $70 and then I have other days where I can make 220 but by the end of the week, I’m not even close to making $1000 and like 40 to maybe 50 hours now it’s more like 60 and 70 hours because you’re sitting declining declining declining. I change my strategy and I try to go during the peak times which is helping if I’m even sick or delayed the rest of the week is ruined for me and maybe half of that because my motivation like the Uber executives they’re horrible people like all elite people majority anyway just horrible. Being a big business owner couple of decades back always made sure people that worked in our family business were always taken care of in every way and paid well and recognized when they needed to be. And to abuse I couldn’t even imagine abusing and using people in such a way and that’s how I’m feeling like and the reason that I’m upset it’s not because it’s because of me. It’s because it’s happening to a lot of people now this is so wrong. But in my circumstance, I don’t have too much of a choice and I’m just hanging on as long as I can. I enjoy driving that’s for sure and I don’t mind interacting with the restaurants and sometimes with customers, but not too many customers cause usually it’s leave at door, I don’t know what else to say but just keep up the good work. Your videos are great.
Putting in those amount of hours is painful to read but sadly becoming more and more common. It's hard to believe many who say they make so much for so little time with these apps when we see how it truly is with these companies. This is why I always have other income beyond just gig work.
I never tell the insurance company that I am delivering food...(not the same as carrying passengers) If I were to get into an accident I wouldn't tell Uber either . I would just say that my car broke down and cannot complete delivery. There is no way for them to find out unless you tell them...Sometimes you have to be a snake like they are.
Man, Toronto is brutal for delivery. Idk how you do it when the traffic is atrocious and the roads are worse than most 3rd world countries. I moved out of Toronto 2 years ago and while I won't say where I am now, doing gig work in my town is already bad enough without these added headaches. Salute to the quality Toronto gig workers, y'all are troopers
_"Takes a specific type person to wanna be self-empolyed"_ ....Well said!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 So many who want to "be their own boss" don't wanna hear that. After working in construction for many years, I started a small electrical contracting company. Fast forward three excruciating years in, I had the epiphany that I didn't actually _own_ the company, it owned _me_ ..... Eventually accepted a state government job and I've never had a better life/work balance. Now, if it just paid better.......😃
Yeah being forced to take low paying no tip orders, while you put a lot of miles on your car with no help from the company for maintenance. Also not having any health benefits in the US doesn't help. I had to go back to get a regular job.
I can understand that. I am under my partners insurance plan otherwise I would be only covered by the government which isn't a great plan.
No one forces you to take no tip orders 😂. That’s on you
It's only going to get worse when minimum wage gets implemented in BC. People don't realise that gig work is oversaturated which is why there's no way it can support the minimum wage. So people will be sitting around for orders.
Well I still get over minimum wage when I do gig work , it's just I have to be very selective on when I go out BUT it's not that much over minimum if I'm being honest
I’ve been doing these apps for six years and I find it hard to quit gig work because you may agree with me on this, I’m so used to it rather than having a demanding job that may pay nearly the same but also I’m not sure how much time I have to devote to looking for a job outside of work. This is in addition to how difficult it is to get an job interview than ever here.
Strange enough, things have picked up in my market and this June was my highest earning month since March of last year.
And that's why I make it important to express that this isn't towards all gig workers. Some like it and want to stay and that's great. For me it's the idea of being told what to do from a manager (As bad as that sounds) being my own boss has taught me more about self respect and how little I received respect while under an employer.
that's because it is a trap....you don't have the time nor energy for anything else except chasing that next order to make your quota
There’s too many immigrants willing to take low paying offers smh 🤦🏿♂️
Ash literally describing Nuggs and Mooshi when talking about gigtubers who quit and come back to have content.
There's actually more than just those two who have done it. However if I'm correct , Mooshi does other content now. I don't really watch any of them to be honest because gig work just annoys me
the reason is Some areas are flood with delivery drivers and there is little to no money to really be earned left , just watching the gig work videos alone see this more and more there are so many delivering one or 2 get all the best paying and in the end it trickles down for the rest so there is barly enough to pay for the gas to do the driving the other issue is the number of apps all delivering for the same places
Yeah I've seen this link a lot too. It's becoming far too common
I wonder if you were referring to my situation about the car lol it sucks because I do want to return to gig work, but I really don't know if the pay will be worth it anymore. This is kinda ruining it for me lol anyhoo, great video and hope you're having a good one, Ash!!
Hahahah when it comes to the break yes! Only the fact that breaks are a big deal and when they go, we can't do gig work lol I am never amazed with you catching the good parts of a video Kenny lol my brother doesn't even do gig work anymore and his front breaks are burnt haha so it happens to the best of us lol
I’ve been doing DoorDash in San Francisco since 2020 and it had plenty of opportunities, but have been doing do that less frequently recently. I do rideshare more than food delivery with both Uber and Lyft
Yeah I've definitely been doing them less frequently too
People don't often factor in the mental health toll of gig work.
Absolutely , it's a huge deal
The illegal immigrants on scooters is ruining it for me, they are the ones scamming restaurants and customers, leading to bad treatment from both now. You know how frustrating it is when the employees ask to confirm it, and they basically grab your phone to make sure. I feel like I’m being treated like a thief and I’m a top dasher. When they ask me to confirm I’ll then go down the list making sure they didn’t mess up and throw it right back at them professionally.
I agree with you on this one. I know 1 bad apple can ruin it for the rest but it shouldn't be treated like that when there is so many good guys out there doing this work.
We got those here in the Northe VA area outside of DC.
@@ChosenOneLife bingo DMV is my area and most people can’t stand them. They cut in-front of traffic, run lights/stop signs, rude, and take work from legal dasher.
The topic is not timeless like a recipe or home improvements, for examples.
True statement
it is absolutely a losing game and they know that. Temporary, or to help with debt at best...ultimately not designed with your best interest in mind. I'm back to a job and putting delivery on the back burner until i can be done with it forever
It’s not a losing game. You just don’t know how to play it. People keep acting like it’s one or the other. Either you have a W2 job or you do gig work. It’s not. Smart people will have a W2 job and do gig work on the side for extra cash. That’s how you game the system. If you don’t rely on gig work, then you can just cherry pick and get the best orders.
It works with different incomes. For example if someone does ONLY gig work for their entire job, then no it won't balance the books but if you do gig work and you have another job. Yeah I find it's much better.
@@SiriusV21 it's all very situational and dependent on the market you're in...ie; oversaturation of shoppers etc. We know how to play it, it just doesn't pay enough to outweigh the cost of doing it, but if it works for you then fill your boots
@@lulabloom4636 My market really isn’t that great and I still can consistently make $800-$900 a week doing this just part time using DoorDash and Uber. Cost isn’t that much at all. I only take orders that are a minimum $2 per mile and my car gets great gas mileage.
Hey, Ash! I’m adapting well enough in my market (Ann Arbor). About to add a 9th app to my arsenal. 😁💰💯
That's awesome! I'm happy if it works out for you!
You introduced me to the term. Though I myself is not a gigworker.
That's true!
Good video.
Thank you Larry!
i do gig work for a side job ! pay down debt and vacation money ! my goal is 20,000.00 a year ! people always need groceries ! yes the restaurant's have drop big time !
Yeah it's good as a side hustle for sure. Definitely big goal you have
Wow! $500 for just the front brakes? Who would pay that? Has anyone every changed a tire for a spare tire? Changing the brakes is just 4 extra bolts and maybe 2 screws. I would laugh in someone's face if they tried to charge me that much for just the front brakes. If you watch a TH-cam video or two, you can order parts on Amazon, brake pads and discs and it's basically the same as changing a tire.
She was probably quoted for brakes and rotors
So that's what some places do quote for just the front brakes being changed. My brother is due to get his changed and he was quoted $501.
@@DashWithAshinCanada Amazon. I bought brake parts from them for around $125 if you include tax, for everything needed. Brake parts are brake parts. When you walk into a shop, they have all these diagrams and pictures to try to upsell you on a product. Dealerships especially have high overhead costs that they need to cover. That's what you're paying for.
When I bought my car a few years ago, oil changes were decently priced. Oh, but there's a scandel with Kia / Hyundai. The TH-cam channel, the Instagram channel, the TikTok channel... The Kia Boyz. Now they want to charge me $80 for an oil change. Nope. These companies are getting sued and passing that cost along to their customers.
It's getting bad in the united states the number one employer is Walmart they pay $15 to $17 an hour to start good luck starting a family on that.😱
Sometimes it's worse with gig work depending on how much you make per hour lol
@@machinesnmetal I we assume "close to a six figure income" is at least 85k a year, you basically just said about 2/3 of Americans should never have children.
PENSION??? In all honesty, 80% of gig worker's need same day pay to eat and have gas money! 90% of gig worker's cant afford a $500 car repair bill and will be out of work if it happens. Its just a part time thing during busy hours, or if you have free time in between a stable job with benefits. Most drivers dont have supplemental insurance for this work, and if something happens, they're not even covered. The first question an adjuster will ask is if you were doing gig work when the accident happened. Regardless of whos at fault!! Smart people will answer no!! Regardless! You could lose your house or any assets. Not only is gig work not really profitable, its dangerous on many levels. It really is a scam. Use your brain here people. Scam but not a game where youre involved! Lots at risk. For a $5 average assignment?? In this economy???
Yeah pensions are not a thing for most with gig work but as you said. A $500 repair job isn't even in the cards. I would love to see more people do this part time or as a side hustle but something tells me many will remain full time.
@DashWithAshinCanada Actually I totally agree with your video assessment that people are dropping out. They absolutely have to. There was a fairly long cycle during covid and even beyond where you could turn enough profit to make it work full time. I know, I did it and I'm retired, but the money was there so why not. But that boom cycle, created a false expectation for everyone. It's been cut by 60% from from those good ol days. Thats based on my earnings per hour on the apps and i always had a set price for my deliveries and only took orders that fit my criteria. The current environment is not sustainable. Another good, coherent, truth video. No smoke n mirrors. Just an honest look. Good job.
No ones quitting. Its all a scam to try and get other people to quit.
There is many who quit. I am not talking about just those that do TH-cam videos. Many who just are fed up in general will quit.
How would that get anyone to quit? That just gives everyone hope that it will soon be less saturated; so inevitably, no one quits 😂
You have to foot the gas up front before you even make .1 cent then work for hours to get tax's paid on the money you make and then car breaking down and then deal with the people lying about the food and getting their money back while they hold money against your account for months and not get paid if you are doing cash orders. charge back up to year on any money you made on tips..
Very true, it's way more dissing out compared to getting back sometimes sadly.
I wish Quebec would leave Canada. All of Canada hates Quebec and I would love to see what happens when Quebec runs out of Alberta's money.
Maybe to you all of Canada hates Quebec but that's not the reality and Quebec will never leave and if they did, I would leave anyways because I am Canadian first, not Quebecer. I was just born and raised here so I got used to it.
@@DashWithAshinCanada Quebec very nearly did leave back in 1995. The referendum failed by a margin of 1%(+/-).
I think it was Jean Chretien (I might be mistaken on the PM) that said that if it comes down to another referendum all of Canada gets to vote, not just Quebec like last time. You better believe if there ever is another referendum, Quebec is outta here!
No. I’m waiting for others to quit because here in Toronto we’re overpopulated thanks to Trudeau. I’m sure it’s all of Canada, but Toronto is one of the biggest cities in Canada. This year is a lot worse too because economies weaker and immigrants/refugees, etc. are choosing to do Uber or gig work whether it’s food or driving people. I noticed a big difference in 2024. But I’m sure in 2020 onward it was a lot hotter as you briefly mentioned. And then auto insurance when you do get the right auto insurance you’re paying $100 or more a month and you can only do one company Uber. They say you can’t do DoorDash and all that other stuff. And I got very upset with the insurance company. I said well maybe by the end of the year that will all have changed! 😤 and when I Google it right here in Canada, it’s basically says you can get commercial insurance but you don’t need personal. You have your personal insurance but you don’t need to pay more like because Uber Uber and apparently DoorDash now offer that too! This is another money grabber for the insurance companies to abuse us, etc. in the US, they don’t have such problems with coverage and things and I know in California I just found something I sent it to my friend, but this is for Uber cab or whatever Uber rideshare ride for 2024 the statistics was put out in March. They make like three 4000 a week. I’m sure the food delivery is not far behind. I mean, obviously you live in a small town or city you know maybe it’s harder to make bigger money like that but the biggest city and Canada and this year making $1000 I have to work longer as well and some days, Uber just does not allow you to make more than $70 and then I have other days where I can make 220 but by the end of the week, I’m not even close to making $1000 and like 40 to maybe 50 hours now it’s more like 60 and 70 hours because you’re sitting declining declining declining. I change my strategy and I try to go during the peak times which is helping if I’m even sick or delayed the rest of the week is ruined for me and maybe half of that because my motivation like the Uber executives they’re horrible people like all elite people majority anyway just horrible. Being a big business owner couple of decades back always made sure people that worked in our family business were always taken care of in every way and paid well and recognized when they needed to be. And to abuse I couldn’t even imagine abusing and using people in such a way and that’s how I’m feeling like and the reason that I’m upset it’s not because it’s because of me. It’s because it’s happening to a lot of people now this is so wrong. But in my circumstance, I don’t have too much of a choice and I’m just hanging on as long as I can. I enjoy driving that’s for sure and I don’t mind interacting with the restaurants and sometimes with customers, but not too many customers cause usually it’s leave at door, I don’t know what else to say but just keep up the good work. Your videos are great.
Putting in those amount of hours is painful to read but sadly becoming more and more common. It's hard to believe many who say they make so much for so little time with these apps when we see how it truly is with these companies. This is why I always have other income beyond just gig work.
I never tell the insurance company that I am delivering food...(not the same as carrying passengers)
If I were to get into an accident I wouldn't tell Uber either . I would just say that my car broke down and cannot complete delivery. There is no way for them to find out unless you tell them...Sometimes you have to be a snake like they are.
Man, Toronto is brutal for delivery. Idk how you do it when the traffic is atrocious and the roads are worse than most 3rd world countries. I moved out of Toronto 2 years ago and while I won't say where I am now, doing gig work in my town is already bad enough without these added headaches. Salute to the quality Toronto gig workers, y'all are troopers
exactly....same in Vancouver
_"Takes a specific type person to wanna be self-empolyed"_ ....Well said!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
So many who want to "be their own boss" don't wanna hear that.
After working in construction for many years, I started a small electrical contracting company. Fast forward three excruciating years in, I had the epiphany that I didn't actually _own_ the company, it owned _me_ ..... Eventually accepted a state government job and I've never had a better life/work balance. Now, if it just paid better.......😃
Haha that's one thing with working for yourself , it doesn't pay that much but at least it's on your own terms.