They completely forgot about West who is easily top 5 on the list, probably top 3. Miller at 8 is crazy. Miller is a better Kyle Korver or JJ Redick. Yes he's clutch as hell and has had some iconic moments but his actual impact is more like a Rip Hamilton or Allan Houston. Was the #1 option, scored a lot (but barely averaged 20 most seasons), was a minus defender and offered nothing else other than being a scoring threat (no rebounds, no playmaking). I love Reggie, but I feel like his lore is based off of people hearing stories about him rather than actually watching him play. Ray Allen had a much better career up and down than Miller, and really should be higher on the list. For his prime in Seattle he was going off and was battling Kobe and TMac as the best SG in the league doing everything. And that's before he became an ultra-clutch shooter just like Reggie, and in fact, had even more iconic moments than Reggie.
1st JORDAN 2nd WEST 3rd A.DANTLEY if you count him as a SG 4th S.CURRY 5th KOBE 6th Gervin RECENT BIAS IS amazing..amazing how kids who didnt even watch 99% of the players are the ones who say WADE is a TOP 10 and KOBE the 2nd best...the same kids who cant even understand the difference between a SG and a PG
Naw you tripping now way no how AD or Steph in front of Kobe stop it. The list includes defense. Jerry west neither. It’s Mike then Kobe and Probably Wade or Clyde. You out your mind saying Kobe is that low on an all time sg list. Crazy you talking recency bias and got Steph over Kobe is bananas by itself. No way no how you bball and came to this list .
Naw you tripping now way no how AD or Steph in front of Kobe stop it. The list includes defense. Jerry west neither. It’s Mike then Kobe and Probably Wade or Clyde. You out your mind saying Kobe is that low on an all time sg list. Crazy you talking recency bias and got Steph over Kobe is bananas by itself. No way no how you bball and came to this list .
Clyde is dangerously 3rd, had he won 3 titles or beat Mike for one, then glyde would had been a lock For 3rd best all time but d wade probably should be 3rd but AI makes this even harder
James Harden hasn't had talent around him? Philly? LA? Harden has always played the passing lane for steals, so the number isn't much of a surprise there, just like Iverson. Wade on the other hand was actually playing defense. Drexler suffers from being a star at a time when most people judging his game weren't born yet. All around player that wasn't trying to score 30ppg.
Philly and the clippers??? Yes both squads very great but he had KD and Kyrie too. He arguably has had more or even amount of talent around him and still no chips
I was thinking more as a number 1 option. Once he left Houston, it was just superteam after superteam. His next best player in Houston was cp3 and Russ, whereas Wade had Shaq once he became the legit number 1. Overall, Harden has played with more stars, but Wade has had better overall teams
@kasperrieberg3495 What Wade says is irrelevant and I'm not even sure he said that. The facts and stats and performance are on Wade's side. The myth and legend and propaganda are on Kobe's . Perception is stronger than reality. SMH
IMO manu klay and tmac should be higher on the list. dwade vs harden is a rough one, IMO wade is the better all around basketball player but harden is offensively so overwhelming. In terms of difficulty its 5/10 for harden but 7/10 for wade.
I think you can’t argue harden’s greatness and that he’s a top SG of all time. But what separates Wade from Harden and so many others is his pedigree of winning. Wade was never the biggest or strongest or a great shooter or even probably top 5 at anything. But he played his tail off every game and won games. He sacrificed his numbers and role to win with Bron on the Heatles, and showed he could carry a team to a title as the top dog when he won his first one with Shaq. Wade doesn’t touch Harden from a production standpoint but few in history do. But Harden isn’t a winner and clutch performer like Wade is
Harden doesn’t clear Jerry West or AI. Name the series Harden took over in the playoffs with good teams Houston abd Philly. I personally think Drexler and Gervin are better players. Offensively Gervin could be 3rd all time.
Let the record reflect that Harden is great offensive player, top 5 all time regular season but when you start talking top 5, top 10 most have historic moments where they took over series even in a loss. Because these guys are the best all time you have to nitpick unfortunately.
What about David Thompson George Gervin Clyde Drexler i might need to do a podcast since most of these youngster just go own what they have seen and not know the history do homework first and you will have a better show
sry man but THIS a bad bb topic... Heat not winning with Harden...no conference team!!! f.e. put Paul George on the Heat and they win 4-5 straight..... keep the team + but Iggy on they win 2 more
Wade is 3 period. Harden is a loser. He always chokes in the Playoffs and hold the ball to long. He travels when shoots the ball and is never called for it. D Wade was an Alfa dog. He taught LBJ how to win Championships. I think Russell Westbrook is 4.
Nah Steve kerr #1. Bird no2 Oh you mean greatet ball hogging shooters who shouldve made the pass instead of force shots over 3 people... Yep kobe takes no1 Jordan no2
The real debate is Wade or Drexler
D.WADE not TOP 10 in SG...
@@onlyfacts3178 never talk basketball again. L rage bait
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@@onlyfacts3178 Please name your top 10 then
Easily Dwayne Wade
1. Mj,
2. Kobe,
3. West,
4. Wade,
5. Drexler,
6. Allen,
7. Grier
8. Miller,
9. Harden,
10. Thompson,
11. Toney
12. Carter
13. Mack
@MDAA313 Jerry West played the majority of his career at the point. So I say again. Easily Dwayne Wade
@jackzanetti6235 If Harden is listed as a sg than West should be as well. Both are combo guards
guys talkin with no freakin idea... getting sick
D-Wade is 3rd > T-Mac 4th
now u can argue if Drexler is 5th or not...
Stojakovic, Iverson, Allen,
You rolling with Peja? 😑
@@coachcriscoe hell ya
They completely forgot about West who is easily top 5 on the list, probably top 3. Miller at 8 is crazy. Miller is a better Kyle Korver or JJ Redick. Yes he's clutch as hell and has had some iconic moments but his actual impact is more like a Rip Hamilton or Allan Houston. Was the #1 option, scored a lot (but barely averaged 20 most seasons), was a minus defender and offered nothing else other than being a scoring threat (no rebounds, no playmaking). I love Reggie, but I feel like his lore is based off of people hearing stories about him rather than actually watching him play. Ray Allen had a much better career up and down than Miller, and really should be higher on the list. For his prime in Seattle he was going off and was battling Kobe and TMac as the best SG in the league doing everything. And that's before he became an ultra-clutch shooter just like Reggie, and in fact, had even more iconic moments than Reggie.
First name that came to my mind
I agree, I'd take Ray over Reggie as well. I think they may classify J West as more of a PG than a SG
Jerry the 2..hail Goodrich the point @@coachcriscoe
S.CURRY is in the conversation to be a TOP 5 SG of all time..dumb people still think he is a PG when he plays like a SG...
Good to see Seth getting some love. Indeed he is listed as SG for every season 2018 onward, and a lifetime 3pt % of 0.431 is about as good as it gets.
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Wade's a killer that's the difference.
iverson or robertson
OSCAR was a PG..
CURRY is SG...
Doc Rivers + Injuries screwed it up...
C: Howard
PF: Duncan
SF: Hill
SG: TMac
PG: Francis
There would be no Lakers-Dynasty....!
1st JORDAN
2nd WEST
3rd A.DANTLEY if you count him as a SG
4th S.CURRY
5th KOBE
6th Gervin
RECENT BIAS IS amazing..amazing how kids who didnt even watch 99% of the players are the ones who say WADE is a TOP 10 and KOBE the 2nd best...the same kids who cant even understand the difference between a SG and a PG
Naw you tripping now way no how AD or Steph in front of Kobe stop it. The list includes defense. Jerry west neither. It’s Mike then Kobe and Probably Wade or Clyde. You out your mind saying Kobe is that low on an all time sg list. Crazy you talking recency bias and got Steph over Kobe is bananas by itself. No way no how you bball and came to this list .
Naw you tripping now way no how AD or Steph in front of Kobe stop it. The list includes defense. Jerry west neither. It’s Mike then Kobe and Probably Wade or Clyde. You out your mind saying Kobe is that low on an all time sg list. Crazy you talking recency bias and got Steph over Kobe is bananas by itself. No way no how you bball and came to this list .
Recency bias but you have Curry over Kobe? 🤔
Clyde is dangerously 3rd, had he won 3 titles or beat Mike for one, then glyde would had been a lock
For 3rd best all time but d wade probably should be 3rd but AI makes this even harder
AI for sure should be in the convo
James Harden hasn't had talent around him?
Philly?
LA?
Harden has always played the passing lane for steals, so the number isn't much of a surprise there, just like Iverson. Wade on the other hand was actually playing defense.
Drexler suffers from being a star at a time when most people judging his game weren't born yet. All around player that wasn't trying to score 30ppg.
Philly and the clippers??? Yes both squads very great but he had KD and Kyrie too. He arguably has had more or even amount of talent around him and still no chips
@jayjohnson7646 I don't know how I left Brooklyn out
I was thinking more as a number 1 option. Once he left Houston, it was just superteam after superteam. His next best player in Houston was cp3 and Russ, whereas Wade had Shaq once he became the legit number 1. Overall, Harden has played with more stars, but Wade has had better overall teams
D. Wade, for sure!
Could be Wade or West
Tmac a shooting guard or forward?
He was listed as both
Wade is the 2nd greatest SG . West Drexler and Kobe fighting for 3rd
Stop it ! Wade wasn’t Kobe
@kasperrieberg3495 you are right he was better than kobe
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You’r alone with that one ! Most people would take Kobe over Wade, even Wade himself said Kobe was better 🤷♂️
@kasperrieberg3495 What Wade says is irrelevant and I'm not even sure he said that. The facts and stats and performance are on Wade's side. The myth and legend and propaganda are on Kobe's . Perception is stronger than reality. SMH
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Most peole with disagree with you, but fair enough to be wrong !
Take care 😉
Thanks for an actual good faith debate because there's no debating the top 2.
Top 2 is a LOCK! 🔒
Wade or Harden
It's Wade.. the reason why Wade didn't have more 1st team all NBA is cause he played in Kobes era.
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IMO manu klay and tmac should be higher on the list. dwade vs harden is a rough one, IMO wade is the better all around basketball player but harden is offensively so overwhelming. In terms of difficulty its 5/10 for harden but 7/10 for wade.
Wade.. only thing that Harden is missing is a championship is crazy (big deal)
I think you can’t argue harden’s greatness and that he’s a top SG of all time. But what separates Wade from Harden and so many others is his pedigree of winning. Wade was never the biggest or strongest or a great shooter or even probably top 5 at anything. But he played his tail off every game and won games. He sacrificed his numbers and role to win with Bron on the Heatles, and showed he could carry a team to a title as the top dog when he won his first one with Shaq. Wade doesn’t touch Harden from a production standpoint but few in history do. But Harden isn’t a winner and clutch performer like Wade is
Agree 🫡
wade. 3 rings.
bird was a forward
D Wade
West should be 3 unless he is counted as a One
Yea I think they classify him more as a PG
Jerry West.
No Jerry West?
I think West was more of a PG
West
WEST is number 2...
NUMBER 3 to me is DANTLEY he was a SG to me
NUMBER 4 is CURRY he is a SG for sure
NUMBER 5 is KOBE
Wade
Wade then Paul Pierce
Pierce was a SF for most of his career
Harden doesn’t clear Jerry West or AI. Name the series Harden took over in the playoffs with good teams Houston abd Philly. I personally think Drexler and Gervin are better players. Offensively Gervin could be 3rd all time.
That's fair
Let the record reflect that Harden is great offensive player, top 5 all time regular season but when you start talking top 5, top 10 most have historic moments where they took over series even in a loss. Because these guys are the best all time you have to nitpick unfortunately.
What about those of us who consider Steph Curry a SG?
He's been listed as a PG his whole career, but he does play more like a 2. Draymond is more of a PG for GSW. Steph is arguably the greatest PG tho
@@coachcriscoe Well I want Allen Iverson as my 3rd ranked SG
What about David Thompson George Gervin Clyde Drexler i might need to do a podcast since most of these youngster just go own what they have seen and not know the history do homework first and you will have a better show
sry man but THIS a bad bb topic...
Heat not winning with Harden...no conference team!!!
f.e. put Paul George on the Heat and they win 4-5 straight..... keep the team + but Iggy on they win 2 more
Wade is 3 period. Harden is a loser. He always chokes in the Playoffs and hold the ball to long. He travels when shoots the ball and is never called for it. D Wade was an Alfa dog. He taught LBJ how to win Championships. I think Russell Westbrook is 4.
I feel ya. Russ is a legit PG tho, but I'm not mad at your Harden take
Its James Harden......Harden has a much better all atound game.
I think its his defense that hinders him in the convo. He's much more dynamic of an offensive weapon than Wade no doubt
James harden😂😂 nah doggg. I'd put mitch Richmond before him
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Nah Steve kerr #1.
Bird no2
Oh you mean greatet ball hogging shooters who shouldve made the pass instead of force shots over 3 people...
Yep kobe takes no1
Jordan no2
BIRD is a PURE FORWARD
Wade