Time Team S05-E05 Mallorca,.Spain
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- This series' overseas visit is to Mallorca in pursuit of the Beaker people, an enigmatic culture thought by some to have been responsible for the introduction of metal work into Britain.
Traces of the Beaker people are few and far between but on the island of Mallorca, an entire settlement has been uncovered, including a 'maze' that presents some difficulties and a temple site that may have links to astronomical implications.
The best thing about this episode is they let the viewer see the thought processes and arguing over tactics. Tony's conversation with the site director about islands was really interesting. And I say bravo to Sue for bringing baby to work!
Regarding Sue, I look back over other episodes she was in and you really can't tell she was pregnant! Hope they're all doing well.
Do Not Forget Selfish Carenza Wanting to Keep all the Labor from Phil...Dozens!
@@Go-Dawgs oh for Christ sake...you & your hate on when you know only what they've shown. She is the best as is Helen & TheTeam! shut up.
These episodes should be used in classes all over the world to teach Britain’s history. I would have benefited in a very interesting way.
who could have forgotten the glorious moment the british conquered Spain.
He said beeker people, and in my mind I saw a middle age village filled with the muppet's, Beeker
I had the same thought 😆😁😜
joe hilner 😂😂😂
Oh thank goodness that I wasn't the only one to hear, 'meep, meep, meeeeeep!' 😄
Well, they are the same word.
The Beaker people were named after the drinking beaker that was typical for their culture, then in the 19th century that same word came to be used for a glass vessel used in laboratories, and then the muppet was named after that laboratory beaker.
@@Brinta3 Thank you for providing the context!
Watching time team is a great way to see the progression of technology time-line. From that rudimentary computer 3D graphic to the new timeteam where you can visually go inside the fugu and see every detail of every rock.
That up bum shot of Phil in his shorts! I almost fainted...😘
You're only human. :3
Talk about dating evidence... people who dig out this episode of Time Team in a hundred years or so can do pretty accurate dating by the fact Tony explained what GPS was. :D
Also now the fact that they don't have drones yet and instead still have to rely on a helicopter.
I love how they explain what GPS is. Brings me back to my high school days... :-)
"Phil did marginally better than most Stone Age men." Haha, Tony with the great zinger at the end.
I can't think of anyone better at bellowing than Phil...
The Sanctuary is visible on Google Earth here:
39.714398N, 2.603710E
And the Son Oleza settlement is here:
39.708058, 2.584682
But there's a cloud blocking the view of the Maze here:
39.712431N, 2.600672E
10:52 Phil's eye roll at Carenza is so iconic 😂
Thanks so much for posting
I'm not gay, but Phil in those shorts... Well, I'm only human.
🤣
Yeah, you're gay
hilarious
Phil Harding.......the Robert Plant of archeology.......🎼whole lotta love! 😂
C'mon -- face facts -- there's a bit of gay in all of us. The degree just varies significantly. Hell, if Melissa Etheridge laid a lip-lock on me, I'd melt! Admit it, and your life will be much more comfortable.
Man, I wish I'd have known about this back in '98 when they were doing this.. I was a few years out of highschool and in decent shape.. me and a handful of my friends coulda shown these kids how to shift some bloody rocks... woulda had that whole pile moved by the end of day 1.. probably woulda been bloody exhausted messes, but we woulda got it done..
Union rules is my guess. Of course there's the, "Only Mad Dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun," phrase. This is a show to watch more for cultural differences than archaeological techniques.
@FESERFACE he is a troll. He always says umerican, on another episode.. So either his spelling is indicative of his brain power or as previously stated he is a troll.
If only you “woulda” paid attention in English class.
@@judeirwin2222 what he was saying, five goddamn years ago, is just fine tbh. Relax, probably.
I've been on digs in a few countries and I have no words for how useless these diggers are. That said, it's not their fault. They're not "lackadaisical"; they're doing exactly what they're told. The comments about students "not being laborers" are also missing the point. Archaeology students are not art history students. Archaeology students are supposed to learn field techniques because archaeology doesn't get done without getting dirty, and there's no substitute for hands-on experience in interpreting context. Also, there's the old adage "work smarter, not harder." With half that many diggers and a few wheelbarrows, the work would have gone a lot faster. The directors are doing these students a great disservice by not giving them proper practical instruction or grounding in field techniques.
Thank you for all these...and for increasing the resolution on the last ones to 480. Just getting into the show now, even though it's been around for 20 years (but not in British Columbia).
In other episodes, I was introduced to Phil Harding wearing Daisy-Duke cut off jeans. But teaming them with a (LBD) little black dress, was too much. Ha ha
Hi Cathy, I didnt want to be the only guy who comments on Phil's shorts, then I saw your funny comment. I want to note that it must be middle of winter in UK when these guys decided to 'winter' in spain..BECAUSE: Phil's legs are even whiter (less tanned) than the rest of him , haha.
Phil Harding.......the Robert Plant of archeology...........whole lotta love! 🤣
@@perrykuehr5538 I notice that, as the three days go on, his legs grow pinker and pinker. Hell, it's hard *not* to notice!
They were told at the start that There was something to look at under that 3 cubic meters pile of rocks. So why the hell would they wait until the team shows up with only 3 days to work and THEN start moving it? All those students moving a teaspoon-full at a time in second gear! Where they did the walking search they had to start by clearing the brush. Again, that should have been done long before Time Team showed up. If I was Tony I would have walked away and told them to treat the whole site as a suppository.
The Mediterranean folks nowadays are generally... not to keen to actually do work.
Exactly!
@@TeylaDex Were they ever?
@@pretzelhunt well the Romans got shit done
I was thinking the same thing. Why didn't they have more help? Why didn't they prep the site better? If Bill has been there for 30 years , Why doesn't he have more workers? Why didn't the Time Team know what they were walking into and why didn't they require more help before they would come to this site.
I get the impression that Tony and Bill were not fans of each other, and that things were quite frustrating with the lack of helpers to get anything done until about halfway through.
Ha! I'm glad Mick pulled rank and went up in the helicopter!
RHIP, Rank Hath It's Privileges
My God those cutoff Jean shorts are Killin me!!! 😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
...shield thy eyes!
At least Phil has the legs for 'em.
That was the style back in the 70’s. I think all my shorts were cut offs. And Phil and I are the same age.
stone the crows!
@@Jigger2361 thine
I was gonna comment at how hilarious the seemingly uselessness and weakness of the archaeologists is... but I love how we are basically all smitten over phil and his short shorts loolol 🤭😌💕💕💕💕
You can always count on Time Team comments sections being critical of Tony, Americans, and whichever Time Team member that got the least bit testy.
And comments on the bodies of the female archaeologists 🙄
Tony looked 'Ticked Off' right from the start. Not a 'Happy Chappy'. In fact the whole team looked out of their comfort zone.
RIP Mick Aston (1 July 1946 - 24 June 2013)
Yes. We know.
I never liked the episodes outside the UK. They visited sites where the digs had been going on for years and the site director wanted the results of the geo phys scanning and the TV exposure but when the Time Team found something they always wanted to stop the digging so they could be the one to dig the discovery.
11:20 Phil asks Carenza for some diggers 😕😳😱😤 Selfish is Damn Selfish
No wheelbarrows in Mallorca, I guess...
Not even buckets! 😅
Wow what a rare occurrence; a TT episode I am jet to watch 😂
The team look so young here!
Digging in Spain, Question: "When do we start?"
Answer: "Mañana..."
Keith Chamberlain We’re University Students, not laborers!😳
@@barbmcconnaughey3070 Son Pijos. Pee Hos. Rich kids.
@@barbmcconnaughey3070 If you're a student of archaeology, you're also a 'laborer'. Otherwise, you're an art history student.
You can tell how old this episode is when Tony feels it necessary to explain what GPS is.
And him getting all excited: "It's great, this late twentieth century communication, isn't it!" :-)
Those spanish students don't seem to be very engaged with their work!
They're spanish, that is about as engaged as they get.
Ahhh ... Phil "Twinkle Toes" Harding! LOL!!!
I'm really impressed with the videography efforts. Rarely, very rarely, do you actually see the recording crews. Yes, I realize some of this is via the magic of editing, but still, considering the overall time constraints (three days of shooting only), they did superb work for the era!
I just wish they would have done a better job of showing exactly where on a map they were situated. Looking for some of these sites via Google Earth is a bit difficult.
The markings on the Beaker pottery looks like it may be representing the hilltops close by.
What a waste of time. After three days, the time Team crew seemed to know more about, and find more, than the group that have been studying this place for years.
+John Rogers I don't doubt if that other team was milking the site so they could get a paid vaykay.
That hardscrabble Mediterranean soil is awful to dig.
Didn’t they have any wheelbarrows to shift the rock?
Interesting to see TT outside of the uk
Mick flew off to scope out the topless beaches...
At least they didn't have to dig in the pouring rain and muddy soil for once.....
The one funny thing about this series is that Tony is always rather impatient and wants archeology to be done fast and it's understandable since it's a TV show with only a 3 day budget/schedule to get results but he always seems rather perturbed that other archeologists work so slow (as they should be professionally speaking). It's probably shocking to others that these guys usually call in heavy machinary to dig trenches instead of doing it slowly as to not miss or damage artifacts.
That's the way to go -- take your baby to work!
It would be nice if they could create 5 minute videos from these episodes to highlight different cultures, time periods, artifacts, archaeological practices, etc.
Piss off you Philistine.
I'll feel accomplished when I manage to speak English like Phil does. I love his accent. lol
@FESERFACE idk what label his accent falls in tbh; the UK is so diverse xD if it's a welsh accent, then yes i guess haha
@Napoleon Hercules ty for the info!
Beautiful area.
Michel Hoskins' HP calculator would have been an antique even then...
Bill doesn't take any of the superior "Tiny little backwater island..." crap off of Tony I realize Tony is there to prod things along but he can be annoying at times.
when did Tony become the associate producer? there are times when he does come across like a network executive on the set.
Bollocks.
Tony is a little 5'3" fellow with a Napoleon complex, he needs to be Waterloo'd every now and then.
You're all wrong. There was a 'proto Time Team' a year before this series began.
It had pretty much the same team, only Mick doing the narrating.
Then they concluded they needed an 'everyman' to ask the questions that we, the non-archaeologist audience would ask.
Without Tony, the expert archaelogists would just tell us their thoughts and finds and we'd have to accept that because we're not experts.
With Tony representing us, the 'stupid questions' are asked that the archaelogists themselves would never ask because they already know the answers.
It took me quite a few years to understand why the seas were the ancient world's 'super highways.'
No construction, no maintenance required. All you needed was a sturdy craft that didn't sink easily and could be navigated to its destination.
Getting to a place only 30 kilometers away over land would have taken people a few days without any roads. Travelling over the water was so much easier than going over land.
Tony IS the associate producer since the very first episode of TT. The person in charge of the site is the one who knew well the complicated conditions of the place, so he cannot expect an outside team to do the excavations that he intends, plus all the work that his own team should have prepared. Oh, and I almost forgot... all of that, in THREE days.
Look at the blisters at 21:38!
Well it's not like the diggers are going much work, so to see results he probably doubles up.
That lump of copper probably has a striking resemblance to Phil waking up on the morning following a Time Team dig.
Bellow fellow and do it yourself!!! I don’t think Bill knew what he was talking about.
@8:00 Carenzer says " is there anyway we can speed things up?" Dr. Josep says "Yes, go the fuck away"
I Love Mallorca
Contemporary with “Ava Berry in England” - whoever SHE was!
Less winter seemed to equal faster technological progress, hmm gotta move south and have more productive warm days. LOL!
Hoverbot1TV if your are English and hasn’t done it yet, I guess it’s too late now! Code word: Brexit
Many years later...Can someone explain what a "claphair"(sp) is? They say it a million times! Is it just "pile of rocks"?
9:00. Three and a half meters, he says, is "roughly about eight to ten feet". It's about a fifth of an inch less than eleven and a half feet.
Why couldn't Carenza go up in the helicopter at 5:12?
It was only big enough for 2 people - the pilot (of course) and one passenger, so Mick elected himself to go up with his camera.
Lol I was reading the comments and I see what you mean. A bunch of delicate flowers afraid of dirt = lazy diggers.
Somebody please explain me how, even given the precession of earth's axis, the southern cross would show up anywhere in the sky over the mediterranean.
You could indeed see the Southern Cross from Southern Europe during the Neolithikum.
The expert said that it started to disappear at about 1700bce because of the earth's axis. Next time try actually paying attention to what's being said before commenting.
Why would the Beeker people live there if the ground was so stony? How did they grow their food?
If you look on the map the settlements and the sanctuaries are in the heights just beneath the fertile valley. And the coast is also not far away.
Amazing, the landscape looks just like Mexico....where the Spanish successfully managed to colonize (other than the Caribbean).
Funny I don't remember my history books ever using that word, I believe the words repeatedly used for Mexico, and the other places was conquered by force in search of gold, and other treasures.
Even down to the food sources the native peoples ate, and what other natural resources they could plunder.
Then there's the facts that the ones that weren't decimated by the diseases they carried with them, they raped, or put into slavery digging for gold silver, and other valuable minerals, are out right murdered.
Then they changed the genetics all through the islands along their travels to Mexico, and even that of the aboriginal tribes of Mexico itself.
Where once the native peoples of these places were all basically the same from Canada down into south American, and the surrounding islands around the eastern coast into the Gulf of Mexico.
As the Spanish people were once Caucasians as all Europeans are, until they were conquered, and under rule of the Moores from North Africa.
Thus you have the darker complextions, dark eyes, and darker skin tones compared to the once fair skinned blue, and green eye's of the native Spaniards before the time of the Holy Wars.
Then there was the endless procession of Catholic priest, and soldiers demanding the natives convert to their religious beliefs regardless of their own religious beliefs before Spaniards conquered all the different peoples between rhe outer island chains, and Mexico up into South western United States which were part of Mexico at the time.
As they're journeys carried them across Mexico into those areas of the United States in search of gold and other treasures.
So how can you use the word colonized in regards to the Spaniards conquering these places to use as slaves or slaughter if they resisted them.
Pretty sure that is how every history book I ever read on that subject went, and I am sure that it may be viewed as such by the Spanish people of the time, but that's far from the truth of the facts according to evidence that they left behind them.
@@timothymilam732 Hmmm, almost a valid point when you take into consideration that one group of people are called victims while also practicing human trafficking, slavery, murder, theft of land and all kinds of barbarism, but someone else who does it is evil.
Did you ever sit and think that maybe history is circular?
So why are you crying about Natives who are as guilty as the Europeans?
Human trafficking is human trafficking, no matter who does it. Slavery is slavery, no matter who does it. Murder is murder, no matter who does it.
So we have to call an evil an evil no matter who does it. If we don't then we are hypocrites.
Cry for the innocent, no matter who it is.
But for the love of all that is holy, this crybaby victimization needs to stop and people need to look at it in it's eyes and call it what it is.
The Spanish only had better weapons. The Natives did the same crimes but no one wants to admit it.
Evil is evil no matter who does it. So call it evil.
Bill sure didn't seem very appreciative of the Time Team crew.
23:36. School's now in session. LMAO!!!
Those are some lackadaisical diggers, man...
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians as usual on time team. Tony is being a real pain in the ass too.
John the Horrid yeah I know I'm only joking. They do have a lot of people that they don't always show
I noticed that too, even Carenza was being an azz sometimes. Phil was his usual jolly self though.
Michael Forrest He's now Sir Anthony to us proles.
@@KYIRISH1 makes documentary undermining Queens legitimacy, receives a knighthood from Her Majesty, wonder if that was at all awkward. Still I have loved Time Team for 17 years and I respect Tonys role in that even if he got carried away at times.
11.57 the lady in the pink top certainly got everything pointing in the right direction when she turned up :)
Late 20th century. Shows older than I am.
Dog bones ? Since When did dogs exist?
10 to 20 thousand years
Uhm, wolves, gentle puppy being domesticated 😊
Copper age generator lol
The white legs are so funny. The white legs Anywhere are dark tan compared to these guys. 😁😂👍🏻👍🏽(👍🏻and this is still darker than there white legs)😂😂😂
Rather than complaining about Spanish students who don't speak English, as you Brits are wont to do, do you realize that YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY? Why don't YOU speak Spanish? Typical. When your people come on "holiday" to Spain, you go to places where they serve--wait for it--British food--and I use the term loosely, and where they have established British radio so you can completely avoid people of another culture. Note below that uw1955 complain furthermore that the Spanish students "don't seem to be very engaged with their work"...probably because it isn't THEIR work, but YOURS. Idiots.
Take your criticisms and name calling elsewhere. Nobody here is interested in your negativity.
Michelle Twidwell are you serious???
No it's *their* work. They are archaeology students. The truth is, Tony was talking bollocks. If they _were_ going slower it's because you have to do that when it's hot or you'll get knackered very soon!
kha sab exactly..
pretty sure that uw1955 is German though fyi
Vaya los pijos ! Mira como trabajan, listo, nadir flojo......
Typical Carenza thinking her dig site is more Important than Anyone or Anything Else! My Gosh...Phil says can you send some diggers over now & Carenza with Over a Dozen workers she is bossing says Can You Not Manage on your own.
Phil & Mick eye rolls are well deserved! Honestly she does this to herself. If you watch seasons 16-19 Helen is Great. Then come back and watch these to see how Carenza acts so Selfishly Self Important. Funny but too Cringe Worthy
Most industrial countries teach their kids their native language plus two more. Theses Spanish students don’t speak English so the interesting question would be, what two other languages do they learn in school besides Spanish and will they be as useful as English. Asking for a Scandinavia friend.
In fact in those years the second language in most spanish schools was french, and the new educational plans were introducing english. Apart from the native balearic language "mallorquin" wich is different from spanish and catalonian
French Spanish and Italians until a few years ago mostly didn't actually learn any second language at all. They had a few years in school but no actual usability.
my son and I lived in Spain and my son attended Spanish school.the second language was Valencian.so Catalonian and Valencian,no english.so the regional language,Valencian,plus Catalonian as the main language.I remember they attempted to start teaching English,from a cd,as no one in the school spoke English.
Have to laugh a little: silly pale Englishmen faced with Spanish "manyana" (yes, I know it's spelled wrong, I don't have the right keys) and siestas in southern Spain.
Diddums, bless.
To be fair, a since they were invited as a resource to the local team and were in a strict time limit, you can understand their frustration.
You need a map, as well as a different keyboard. Mallorca is an Island, and i not Southern. BY the way, the Spanish are normally very hard working, and siestas are becoming a thing of the past in most modern cities and tourist areas. Depends on the work environment. If you are no longer labouring in the fields, but are in a nice aircon office, you no longer need one.
Så du kollade Elin?
Tony is British but not descendant of the viking invaders. Looks decidingly roman
Or Jewish.
@@jor_r8769 His 3x grandmother was Jewish. But his family are not ´jewish´ His father was beaten by Fascists in the 30s who assumed he was.
steve isn't as cute as sue
But he is her partner and the father of her baby.
Judge him all you like, but he's the one that got the girl ;)
21:43 "Look out! Here comes trouble!" Yeah, he's an American. Classic dorky uncle line.
YTbobo4u true! Darn
@alanrtment porter Your hate is showing.
@@YTbobo4u Have you met Sue? (not graphics, occasionally brought in, especially for the live shows)
Her voice and demeanor are like nails on a chalkboard
BBC has a new history show, Digging For Briton, I do not like it, its not TIME TEAM, we should demand BBC bring back our beloved TIME TEAM..
Why only three days? That ruins it for future digs. Rushing like that destroys all kinds of things.
45:02 😍😍😍😍😍
I was unimpressed by Tony's explosion of self-importance during the early helicopter trip. ☹️
The insane number of ads, 6 in 15 mins, caused me to cease viewing. 🐈
I don’t know what device/app you’re using, but on mobile, I always get way more ads on the youtube app than on safari. Hope this helps
@@jjoploo Thank you, it does help. And it was YT that I had attempted to view the program through. 🐈
why is that yank wearing an arrow-cross T-shirt?
Logo for Earthwatch Research Team.
I skip every ad. Making money off of someone else's hard work is unethical.
Drunk prof. & lazy students. Sounds like Spain to me.
Yeah, like you know All about Spain! I suspect you couldn´t find it on a map. I will give you a clue, it is not the other side of Texas.
This Bill guy *smdh* unrealistic
"more muscle, less glamour"
UGH. What a creep. how about more science less sexist commentary?
you never watched me and my brothers haul bricks...
Fact, the uglier you are the more manual labor you should be doing and the more you should not be seen by anyone. Ger over it, troll.
I feel like Karenza left the show after getting tired of them not taking her opinions or ideas or plans. It almost feels like the patriarchs are basically telling the little lady to stay in her place. I dunno.
thanks for the heads up- will fast forward to season 13 then- when this creature finally left.
When I first started to watch Time Team, about four-ish years ago, I read the negative comments about Carenza. But after a while I do see where a lot of her ideas/theories were ignored. She would be interrupted and talked over. Her being criticized for not always out digging in the trenches when her area of expertise is in history and research. She was given a bad rap in my opinion.
@@jayebyrd9953 She is back in the new TT, and slowly filling Mick´s role. Matt has stepped up naturally to take Phil´s For me it is taking time to ´bed in´ but the last ´mass dig´ in Modbury was good. The weak link is the guy doing Tony´s job. He started off being almost invisible, not connecting with the camera and mumbling. Now he has gone the opposite way and is all grinny grinny, Bubbly bubbly and HAPPY. Either version is irritating. It occurred to me that they should have approached Peter Ginn, from Historic Farm. He manages to be enthusiastic and involved, while not acting like he is presenting a pre school nursery show.
This episode was ruined by all the ads. Thumbs down.
Tarnished Knight someone steal tv programs and upload them to TH-cam and make money out of their stolen material. Strange!
yeah, please find another host...one less....oafish
The ancient jumper simulteneously charge because secure clasically rub as a kaput grandmother. brawny, hot huge shrine
Is this some sort of obscure code, or are you actually trying to convey a comment about this video?
@@haplessasshole9615 gotta be a bot
@@haplessasshole9615 I know it's late, but this was going on for a while back then. It seems like it's test messages for really bad bots.
@@supervillain3213 Thank you! I had forgotten about this, of course, but I appreciate the follow-up. How did that "bad bot" thang work?
@@haplessasshole9615 idk, seems like they got better, because now they advertise scams like crazy on here.
They must be union workers - I've never seen such a lackadaisical bunch. We musn't break any fingernails, musn't we?
What, they're not mindless corporate slaves? We can't have that.