Hekatombe the LockpickingLawyer does not make bill look bad, the LPL is very talented and has the touch. he is a impressive, he is mastering these locks in his spare time and thats like WOW. BosnianBill is a very good picker, this is a hobby and we all pick when we have the opportunity. if it was me? it might take a lifetime to open one of those bad boy locks or a week before i give up and drill it out for revenge.
I am impressed too. So crazy how these locks are sassed around like 20.00 hookers to the experienced people that know how to handle them. The inexperienced people usually take a long time to figure them out. But between the two of lpl and bb. I would be the virgin of lock picking. Even though I've started a few cars, and opened a few doors with paper clips and odd ball keys.
Love these sort of locks, nothing too flashy but solid and effective! Plus the added sneaky bonus of having to engage the cam to rotate the core :) awesome stuff!
Would be nice if you picked it the other way round and did a comparison video about how the lock picks and feels different to pick the other way round. More pins feel solid the other way round. EVVA I believe is Austrian.
Great vid, Could you please make a video about rekeying locks please? As apparently the local locksmith has been selling key copies to criminals of places he has rekeyed and replaced locks of.
Who wouldn't want to know which locks aren't worth the packedging they come in? It's good info to have when you're looking for a lock that will protect your valuables. Phil is providing a service. lol
All of the (Not bottom tier "normalprofil" evva keys are nickel silver. This seems to be the FPS, and is their entry level cylinder, basically like their other pin tumblers but without the sidebar/trap pin.
This is definitely the "S-Profil", not the FPS-series. But actually I could find some cylinders with nickel silver keys on ebay, so it must be an option by special request of the locksmith.
This is the standart cylinder, no "FPS" or "GPi" or what ever. This keyway is callen "S-Profil" (the old standart keyway was A-Profil ) This nickelsilver-keys are specially made for some customers. Nramlly the A-Profil and S-Profil Cylinders are having brass-keys with round bow
I've just checked again (actually ordered one cylinder), and the packaging says "Schließsystem GPS". Its the S-Keyway, but the keys are made of nickel silver. Couldn't find this system in the catalogue, so it must be made for locksmiths exclusively.
I like that Bill marks them so you can see when they go into a false set. Gives you a better idea of just how much rotation there was. Surprisingly, it's quite a lot sometimes.
Since my family is looking into a new house, and I myself having picked my way through my own door (don’t ask) I’d like some recommendations for house locks from a group of people that have a higher likelihood of knowing a thing or two about locks without driving into the city to visit a locksmith or someone like that.
Wow .. different size spools based on key pin length ? Most manufacturers don't bother .. I wonder if the fact can be exploited .. or if it's there to avoid some exploit ..
One possibility is that by having different driver pin lengths, you don't change the keying, but you do change the apparent spring tension, which may affect how the pin feels to someone trying to pick it, as a security measure in the lock design. It may be less expensive to get a variety of driver pin lengths than it is to get a variety of spring types that we've seen in other locks. I don't know though. That saic, I certainly don't know. I've successfully picked 3 locks so far, 2 of them 'Master' locks, so the challenge doesn't seem to be there for many, but I can set a budget for them and learn, the 3rd lock being the 'transparent' lock that comes with the set of picks, and does more to show people how the pins function than anything else.
Awesome picking ,very helpful seeing counter rotation with that line on the lock . Going to give that a try myself. Frankly I could use any aid I can get lol thanks for the great review brother!
Hi LPL, again great pick. I have two questions actually. On the lock, how does that cam mechanism actually work? And second about the pinning shoe and follower, where can I get those? Thank you.
Looks like an EVVA FPS, their most basic "Protected" model, As far as I am aware, that is the only model with that key design and no sidebars. So far, any pin tumbler EVVA locks I have encountered had the same pinning with standards in 1 and 2 and the rest spools. Makes for fun but predictable bitting.
Could you show how the button thing works in the back? I understand it is depressed by the key and allows the cam to turn, but I'm more of a visual learner. What does it slide into?
I have a bunch of euro cylinders with key ways like that that I can't get picked with my mad bob picks (0.6mm / 0.0236 in). So is the "key" to this really the 0.015 in picks? Or do I just need to try more not to get picks stuck in tight key ways? Also, there's cylinders that don't bind up due to that cam mechanism, I have at least one where the core turns freely without the cam actually moving... I usually just stick the pick deep inside of it before picking it and try to set whatever mechanism there is, but I don't feel it, and it worries me that I can't be sure the cam is actually gonna move once I picked the lock...
I heard that a guard at Fort Knox lost his keys and they had to call this guy for help so they could open the safe. They got so mad he opened it so fast that they fired the guard.
Here's Bosnian Bill picking it: th-cam.com/video/7MmWsMIejV4/w-d-xo.html Although he misidentified the cam mechanism as a T-pin. And I think he was 1 off on his pin count at a certain point, since he said he had counter-rotation on pin 2.
I believe this is a side effect of the "Notfall- und Gefahrenfunktion". Basically, it allows you to operate the lock from one side even if the other side core is turned. It does so via a spring mechanism that locks the cores together and turns them in tandem. This means that you have to push in the pin to separate the core on the picked side from the one on the not picked side (normally done by the key). I might be mistaken though, this is purely guessing from what I know of those EVVA cylinders.
THR33STEP wondering the same thing. This one doesn’t have the “Naughty Bucket Chronicals” title and Bill usually only marks them when he picks them on camera.
Even though the pins aren't at the correct shear line to open, the drawn line shows the rotation from, the thin part of a spool or T-pin being at the shear line, hence the ... false set. It's really more for the viewer, than the picker, because he can feel it.
R.P. Rosen, Ah, we meet again, that was very well explained in a way anyone can understand regardless of experience or prior knowledge, if you're not a teacher in the real world you easily could be, your logical, well explained answers help countless more people than the OP, so from me thanks as well :)
I would say this is EPS key however the keyway looks a bit like the lower end of evva euro (they call it EVVA A here) however I doubt that they would put an EPS key blank on an A model. My best guess is that the company that is branded on the key (probably a locksmithing one) has bought a particular keyway from EVVA that that gives them the possibility that only they can supply key banks or make copies. Have a look on my video 309 if that is the same keyway th-cam.com/video/rIWiveoNDn8/w-d-xo.html
Depends on the type of stainless steel (mostly the nickel content, the more nickel the less magnetic it gets), most "hardenable" s-steels are noticeable magnetic.
@dlevi67 Not just the alloy but also the temper/structure. Often for instance, stainless steel objects can be almost inert to a magnet until stressed/work hardened. The "worked" area then becomes much more strongly magnetic.
If I remember right don't ask me the Video but I think this lock did not come form the naughty bucket it was just a lock that got passed back and forth between the two
Great video as always. I notice you tend to use lockpocking jargon quite often; is that the lawyer in you? I usually get what you mean but I’d love a defining terms video if you don’t have one. P.S. Lay off the L.A. Beast’s outro catchphrase
thats the point, if you dont know its there when picking well you cant get it open. The key most likely pushes the button when you push it all the way in, so you would not have to do anything special.
Apparently Davy had three goes at naming it: first was "alumium", second was "aluminum", then he got it right third time with "aluminium" :), American dictionaries got stuck on the second spelling...
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Secret link club?
hell yeah
2nd time this channel has been a secret link, i think phils been on a binge watch
Wrrd!
why is this so fascinating?
Joseph Marsh: It's oddly relaxing to watch and the narration is so soothing.
I picked my nose successfully today...
Did your finger give you good feedback?
what tools did you use?
Hope you didn't find any serrated pins up there.
I got a false set.
Did you open your mind?
A lock that's supposed to be really difficult and he picked it in like two minutes.
BOY I SURE FEEL SECURE.
IceDragon978 if you don't want him in your house, then you should put an ASSA twin cylinder in your door
I like that you tell us exactly what tools that you use. Very helpful. Thank you LPL.
i can't belive that the LockPickingLawyer picked most of the locks that he borrowed from BosnianBill already in his spare time.
Yeah! He makes BosnianBill look bad xD
Hekatombe
the LockpickingLawyer does not make bill look bad, the LPL is very talented and has the touch. he is a impressive, he is mastering these locks in his spare time and thats like WOW. BosnianBill is a very good picker, this is a hobby and we all pick when we have the opportunity. if it was me? it might take a lifetime to open one of those bad boy locks or a week before i give up and drill it out for revenge.
+bird718 I meant it as a joke. In no-way did I mean to actually belittle BosianBill
Bosnianbill has already picked this one a while back.
I am impressed too. So crazy how these locks are sassed around like 20.00 hookers to the experienced people that know how to handle them. The inexperienced people usually take a long time to figure them out. But between the two of lpl and bb. I would be the virgin of lock picking. Even though I've started a few cars, and opened a few doors with paper clips and odd ball keys.
Can you pick an euro profile cylinder in the orientation it is normally installed in?
Interesting seeing the different techniques different pickers use to open these locks. Light vs heavy tension, start with first pin vs last, etc.
Keep the great videos coming. Always enjoy watching a Master!
Love these sort of locks, nothing too flashy but solid and effective! Plus the added sneaky bonus of having to engage the cam to rotate the core :) awesome stuff!
Thank you. I get ambitious for picklocking as hobby and till now i opened 6 locks.
Why does Phil keep linking lockpick videos? Should I be worried??
Internet Superstar David Elliott ...good question, I was surprised too....but people should know how little locks actually protect you.
Would be nice if you picked it the other way round and did a comparison video about how the lock picks and feels different to pick the other way round. More pins feel solid the other way round.
EVVA I believe is Austrian.
Yes, EVVA is Austrian. They are based in Vienna.
Yes, based in Vienna, but there are production facilities in Germany (Krefeld and Leipzig) as well.
Great vid, Could you please make a video about rekeying locks please? As apparently the local locksmith has been selling key copies to criminals of places he has rekeyed and replaced locks of.
i would like to see how you put them back together
The Bob Ross of lockpicking
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Please show us the disassembly of one of those Euro profile cylinders.
Why, Philip, why
Lizzie Dizzie I am also so confused.. why this secret link?
Who wouldn't want to know which locks aren't worth the packedging they come in? It's good info to have when you're looking for a lock that will protect your valuables. Phil is providing a service. lol
wirelesmike73 lol
Is Phil trying to tell us something?
Good guess. They are indeed an aluminum door maker. www.graute.de (German or French only)
I wonder why the keys (standard-keyway) are made of nickel silver, must be some special request by Graute.
All of the (Not bottom tier "normalprofil" evva keys are nickel silver. This seems to be the FPS, and is their entry level cylinder, basically like their other pin tumblers but without the sidebar/trap pin.
This is definitely the "S-Profil", not the FPS-series. But actually I could find some cylinders with nickel silver keys on ebay, so it must be an option by special request of the locksmith.
This is the standart cylinder, no "FPS" or "GPi" or what ever. This keyway is callen "S-Profil"
(the old standart keyway was A-Profil )
This nickelsilver-keys are specially made for some customers. Nramlly the A-Profil and S-Profil Cylinders are having brass-keys with round bow
I've just checked again (actually ordered one cylinder), and the packaging says "Schließsystem GPS".
Its the S-Keyway, but the keys are made of nickel silver.
Couldn't find this system in the catalogue, so it must be made for locksmiths exclusively.
I like that Bill marks them so you can see when they go into a false set. Gives you a better idea of just how much rotation there was. Surprisingly, it's quite a lot sometimes.
Fantastic work picking that one. What a beautiful lock.
Since my family is looking into a new house, and I myself having picked my way through my own door (don’t ask) I’d like some recommendations for house locks from a group of people that have a higher likelihood of knowing a thing or two about locks without driving into the city to visit a locksmith or someone like that.
Wow .. different size spools based on key pin length ? Most manufacturers don't bother .. I wonder if the fact can be exploited .. or if it's there to avoid some exploit ..
One possibility is that by having different driver pin lengths, you don't change the keying, but you do change the apparent spring tension, which may affect how the pin feels to someone trying to pick it, as a security measure in the lock design. It may be less expensive to get a variety of driver pin lengths than it is to get a variety of spring types that we've seen in other locks. I don't know though.
That saic, I certainly don't know. I've successfully picked 3 locks so far, 2 of them 'Master' locks, so the challenge doesn't seem to be there for many, but I can set a budget for them and learn, the 3rd lock being the 'transparent' lock that comes with the set of picks, and does more to show people how the pins function than anything else.
Thank you Phil, i needed this.
My god. Thank you Philip Defranco for exposing me to this masterpiece of a video.
Hello from the DeFranco Nation! =)
Awesome picking ,very helpful seeing counter rotation with that line on the lock . Going to give that a try myself. Frankly I could use any aid I can get lol thanks for the great review brother!
Did I miss seeing the cam mechanism itself when it was gutted?
This is so strangely therapeutic. Never seen anybody actually pick a lock before.
Hi LPL, again great pick. I have two questions actually. On the lock, how does that cam mechanism actually work? And second about the pinning shoe and follower, where can I get those? Thank you.
Very impressive. I am so glad you and Bill are homies. 2 minds are greater than one, right? :)
the "button-tip" was great info, Thanks
Looks like an EVVA FPS, their most basic "Protected" model, As far as I am aware, that is the only model with that key design and no sidebars. So far, any pin tumbler EVVA locks I have encountered had the same pinning with standards in 1 and 2 and the rest spools. Makes for fun but predictable bitting.
Thanks... good to know
skill, talent or just Born to pick locks
1:20 "bit of a false set" on 1 -- it wasn't a false set after all (standard pins).
Phillip Phillip, Phillip Defranco sent us.
Nice work! I love EVVAs, the keyways can get kind of pinchy...
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about picking, what do the spool pins do in the lock?
Will you attempt to pick a Protec2?
Why does one side of the cylinder appear to be much longer than the other?
Could you show how the button thing works in the back? I understand it is depressed by the key and allows the cam to turn, but I'm more of a visual learner. What does it slide into?
I have a bunch of euro cylinders with key ways like that that I can't get picked with my mad bob picks (0.6mm / 0.0236 in). So is the "key" to this really the 0.015 in picks? Or do I just need to try more not to get picks stuck in tight key ways?
Also, there's cylinders that don't bind up due to that cam mechanism, I have at least one where the core turns freely without the cam actually moving... I usually just stick the pick deep inside of it before picking it and try to set whatever mechanism there is, but I don't feel it, and it worries me that I can't be sure the cam is actually gonna move once I picked the lock...
Anti drill pins. I overcome the problem of pin drop and cams by using the largest titanium drill possible. I should try picking one some day.
I heard that a guard at Fort Knox lost his keys and they had to call this guy for help so they could open the safe. They got so mad he opened it so fast that they fired the guard.
wouldnt suprise me if this story is true. or at least mostly true.
To the uninitiated that key looks like it's for a 6 pin lock. Is the first step down NOT to match the 1st pin?
which evva locks are hard to pick?
phildefranco sents me here to learn on how to pick locks ^^
Do you use the heavy tensioning technique on all locks?
felt like I was at the dentist
Here's Bosnian Bill picking it: th-cam.com/video/7MmWsMIejV4/w-d-xo.html
Although he misidentified the cam mechanism as a T-pin. And I think he was 1 off on his pin count at a certain point, since he said he had counter-rotation on pin 2.
The keyway gave me the impression it'd be a harder lock to pick, guess not!
How did the back cam work?
I believe this is a side effect of the "Notfall- und Gefahrenfunktion". Basically, it allows you to operate the lock from one side even if the other side core is turned. It does so via a spring mechanism that locks the cores together and turns them in tandem. This means that you have to push in the pin to separate the core on the picked side from the one on the not picked side (normally done by the key).
I might be mistaken though, this is purely guessing from what I know of those EVVA cylinders.
I think that's probably a very good guess! Thanks for the explanation! I was curious as well.
How the hell do you go about putting something like this back together?
It's not as difficult as you think it is.
Reverse.
I was hoping that when he pulled out the core at 3:58 it would have a secret message written on it from BosnianBill.
great follower where can I get one ?
its scary how you are able to open all of these with 'such ease'. I'm starting to understand what he means in that you are such a great pick ¿master?
what do the spools do?
I wonder what he uses as his front door lock
simply wow.
Hey LPL, was this from the naughty bucket?
THR33STEP wondering the same thing. This one doesn’t have the “Naughty Bucket Chronicals” title and Bill usually only marks them when he picks them on camera.
Nope. th-cam.com/video/7MmWsMIejV4/w-d-xo.html
That's impressive and all, but can you pick a master level lock with just a bobby pin and a screwdriver?
Where did you get your "c" clip removal tool? I have been trying to find one that works as well as yours but no luck so far.
I believe it's from this kit /watch?v=O4nFHmbIvAs
It’s from the HUK lock disassembly kit
Thanks ordered it Banggood
Thieves must love this channel.
Lock is upside down same as bill these are installed bible down in almost all cases in europe so not a valid pick. Love Evvas my favourite.
I'm kinda new to picking.. how do the lines help you detect a false set?
Even though the pins aren't at the correct shear line to open, the drawn line shows the rotation from, the thin part of a spool or T-pin being at the shear line, hence the ... false set. It's really more for the viewer, than the picker, because he can feel it.
Oh, awesome. Thank you!
R.P. Rosen, Ah, we meet again, that was very well explained in a way anyone can understand regardless of experience or prior knowledge, if you're not a teacher in the real world you easily could be, your logical, well explained answers help countless more people than the OP, so from me thanks as well :)
Is there a lock you can't pick?
Phil linked us to another lock picking video? Second one in a week
Do the forever lock
Aluminium!
well done!
I would say this is EPS key however the keyway looks a bit like the lower end of evva euro (they call it EVVA A here) however I doubt that they would put an EPS key blank on an A model. My best guess is that the company that is branded on the key (probably a locksmithing one) has bought a particular keyway from EVVA that that gives them the possibility that only they can supply key banks or make copies.
Have a look on my video 309 if that is the same keyway th-cam.com/video/rIWiveoNDn8/w-d-xo.html
I hate that you always pick the locks upside down. They're mounted with the pin stacks down in European doors.
I'm relaxing to this as if it were a ASMR video
If Bill were dead, he'd be rolling in his grave. ;-)
Or would be, if that was a Naughty Lock...
Definitely not a Naughty Lock. 👍
Magnet dosen't affect stainless steel
It depends on the alloy used. Some are slightly magnetic.
Depends on the type of stainless steel (mostly the nickel content, the more nickel the less magnetic it gets), most "hardenable" s-steels are noticeable magnetic.
Some do, some don't. Depends on their structural crystal arrangement.
@dlevi67 Not just the alloy but also the temper/structure. Often for instance, stainless steel objects can be almost inert to a magnet until stressed/work hardened. The "worked" area then becomes much more strongly magnetic.
The keys actually say "graute aluminium"
Phil... Again? What is it with you and lock videos ???
This is one of the strangest youtubes channels I've ever seen.
The secret link!
It's a good quality lock but those pin's should not have been a reason for it to be in his naughty bucket.🤔
If I remember right don't ask me the Video but I think this lock did not come form the naughty bucket it was just a lock that got passed back and forth between the two
Brawler Cazy quite possibly. Maybe LOL can conform it one day.🤔
Brawler Cazy reading another post it seems you are right.
th-cam.com/video/7MmWsMIejV4/w-d-xo.html
what what what... picked in under 2mins! lmao
Am I watching Skyrim?
Great video as always. I notice you tend to use lockpocking jargon quite often; is that the lawyer in you? I usually get what you mean but I’d love a defining terms video if you don’t have one. P.S. Lay off the L.A. Beast’s outro catchphrase
Good pic
Now why would they put a button in a lock, how is a person supposed to know its there 🤔
thats the point, if you dont know its there when picking well you cant get it open. The key most likely pushes the button when you push it all the way in, so you would not have to do anything special.
Maybe just a major lock historian*
*cough* Aluminium *cough* ;)
Jason Hardman
You should get that cough looked at. It's even making you misspell aluminum!
Both spellings are correct as the same person gave it both names.
Apparently Davy had three goes at naming it: first was "alumium", second was "aluminum", then he got it right third time with "aluminium" :), American dictionaries got stuck on the second spelling...
Bill - Say the word and we'll make this punk disappear. ;)
Evva Eps
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Actually 0...
Nope Nope no dislikes showing for me either. Maybe somebody changed their mind
Yes..maybe one changed
Yep your a badass
first
first pick on video, or dont even make a video.
Are Dub, why?