Nice review and actually one of the better ones on this amp. Quite the entertaining vid as well. I wish more guitarists who do amp reviews would do the same and just fool with the knobs while playing. That really shows the capabilities sound wise better than just showing a few sounds clean and dirty.
Best review of an orange amp I've found in 2 weeks. I really liked how you separated the different tones and made it very easy for me to hear what you were trying to portray with the amp. Your review lead to purchase an orange amp, idk if that means anything to you lol. Either way thanks.
I appreciate the shots of the knob settings. Gave me a great starting point. I have the same head and their 2 x 12" closed back v30 cab. I've wondered for a very long time how to use an overdrive with the dirty channel without turning the end result into pure mud. This was totally helpful. Thank you and best regards. Cheers!
Dee Em I have to agree, if you want onboard reverb, Fender have some of the best of the kind. Although they're not exactly metal amps :S So, it depends on your style.
Thought I'd be happy with a pedal but much easier with onboard effects, I like to travel as light as I can on gigs, now I lug around a Boss GT pedal. not to worry, the amp has great tone.Thanks for your time ,cheers
Wow that tone is really good for how small the amp is! What kind of metal style do you suggest with this? Looking to buy this for bedroom stuff but also to have a good small amp to take to rehearsals. Are there any other mirco or small sized amps you would suggest? Or is this one pretty good and I should stick with this?
+Guitar Pick You could probably get a similar tone out of the Orange Micro Terror, and that little lunchbox is super affordable. Just make sure to boost the signal with a tubescreamer or similar. I wouldn't really suggest either amp for modern metal tones, as they have a distinctly British characteristics.
Great video! Very helpful. In your opinion, do you think, with the help of a compression pedal, you could get that metal tone tighter (less runny)? Great playing by the way.
Thanks for the kind words Mark. I don't think a compressor pedal would do you much good. For tightening the tone, by far the most effective method is using a tubescreamer style pedal as a volume boost and tone control (to cut some of the low end). Even with the use of such a pedal though, you won't get that ballsy modern tone you can expect from a 5150 or Dual Rectifier or such. If you're playing in Eb standard, drop D or E-standard, this amp will sound pretty friggin' sweet though. Anything lower and I would recommend looking elsewhere because of the woofy and muddy low end present in this amp.
+Kadence thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm probably gonna play in drop C or B. But in my guitar I do have a set of bare knuckle divebombs which have perfect saturation but are still really tight. I really like this amp because of the option of doing lower wattage and not having to drag around a huge amp head.
You think something like a tube-screamer (plus an EQ pedal, to boost the mids a bit and cut the bass) wouldn't be enough to focus the sound when playing in D standard or Drop C? What tube/hybrid amp would you recommend that has a similar sound and isn't too expensive (possibly cheaper than the Dual Terror) and takes pedals well?
Can you get zero gain sounds out of this? Im looking for something that goes from really clean, ambient/mega delay capable sound to hard/punk rock and 20th C metal noise. Great video btw
+PeppermintGreen It is possible to get a completely clean tone in my experience, depending on the output of your guitar pickups and so on, but it's not ideal. Also, as mentioned, if your output to the amp is high, say if you use active pickups or a boost pedal of sorts, the pre-amp tubes would overload, even at extremely low gain. I would go for a different amp for that kind of versatility requirement, perhaps a solid state, if that's not a problem for you. I have an Ibanez TB100h amp head as well. Solid state, 100w, dirt cheap if you get it secondhand and it does some pretty good gainy tones as well as some great cleans. It's got built in reverb and two separate channels, and with the Footswitch pedal, there's really no reason to turn it down. I would also add that the TB412a cab that came with it in some packages back in the day is surprisingly good. It's not the best build quality, but the sound justifies that shortcoming.
Please help: I can't choose between or15, dark terror, dual terror and Jim Root terror. I want to play both rock and metal (black/death) and want to use it for my apartment and to record black metal. I will not rehearse with the band so I won't compete with a drummer.
WOOLgum i n have an orange micro dark terror. It fits perfectly thet purpose that you describe. I changed the preamp tube and sounds tighter. I have also jammed with drumer and bassist and it is loud enough to cut through.
+Lucas S. Lovén A used Peavey 6505/5150 is the only amp you'll ever need for modern metal. I have a Bugera 6262 which sounds nearly identical. I'll have a demo on that coming out some time in the future. You know, when I'm finished writing the riffs.
The fat channel is supposed to be gainer than the tiny terror channel. So either yours is broken, or you didn’t listen to it that well... at least you didn’t say that they’re the same, like another reviewer said ;) Good review, though.
Hey bud great review! I've been for someone to boil down this amp professionally, and luckily you knew your shit. Question here if you can answer: My band I'm currently in is of Post-hardcore/Alt. rock style. Not metal or any crazy high gain sound of any sort, but we do play Drop B and C# standard. And I know how you brought up how it'll muddy up in those tunings. I'm looking to trade my Egnater Tweaker 88 head for a Dual Terror. In your opinion, would the Dual Terror still be a good investment in where I stand? Ps- We're called To Live Again from Dallas, TX if you need a reference. Album is "Far From Home" Music is anywhere on Itunes, Spotify, Google Playback, Amazon, you can't miss it ;)
Nick Nazem Hi Nick! Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, I don't know exactly what you're expecting to use the Dual Terror for, especially when you have a Tweaker 88. I wouldn't trade the tweaker for the Dual Terror, nor do I think the Dual Terror would be the best option for you in it's price range. I looked up your music and it seems you have a fairly modern sound, with the big bottom end and the crispy top end that typically come with American amps (6L6 power tubes and similar carry these traits very well). If you're looking for a tone that will blend with that style nicely and the low wattage is something you're looking for, I recommend something like the Laney IRT15H, Jet City JCA22H or the Randall RD20H. I haven't personally played any of those amps (sadly I'm not rich D:), but they sound like they they're in the ballpark of what you're looking for.
And actually my drummer (who was recording guitar for the cd) used a Jet City I believe to achieve the sound. So you're def. striking a literal chord sir lol
The OD pedal doesn't add any drive. It's acting as a boost and toneshaper before hitting the preamp. It's a very common technique for modern metal tones.
Kadence it is and I have no issues with it but an amp demo shouldn’t have any additional support, it’s the same as EQing after recording. Demos should be raw tone
@@Jerryleedlelee And the OD used as a boost is part of the "raw tone" I was going for. Where do you draw the line? Should we stop using cabinets with our amp heads because they naturally low pass the signal from the amp head? Should we not use custom pickups in our guitars because it changes the response of the amp? Should tone knobs be disallowed because they remove top end from the raw signal? I'm not saying you're wrong, what I am saying is that the kind of tone I'm going for and that I prefer for high gain metal is unattainable with most amplifiers without boosting and tone shaping the raw signal. That doesn't make my approach wrong, it's just outside of your personal preference, which to be fair, is totally fine. My problem with your statement is when you say "Demos SHOULD be raw tone". Not only have you not defined very well what "raw tone" means, but you're also implying that there's an arbitrary line in the sand when it comes to what "raw tone" is and you haven't defined it very well, or at all, and now you're using said arbitrary line to judge my amp demo, when really, it's just your personal tone preference that's getting the better of you. As a last point, I believe it's quite common, even with amp demos, to high pass and low pass the final signal. Is that "wrong"?
Kadence if I do a bare knuckle pickup demo and my signal chain has a chorus pedal and delay, would you be satisfied with that? No, how are you going to hear the original sound of the pickups when you have something altering it? The same goes for this, if I buy this amp solely based on your demo I’d be disappointed that I’d have to drop another 100-150 on an OD pedal to get the nice tone that’s coming from your video. Everything is going to affect the tone, the type of cab you use, the type of mic you use, definitely the type of guitar you use and whether or not your volume and tone pots are 100% or 50% these are things everybody factors in when watching amp or pickup demos. What is unnecessary to factor in is when distortion or over drive pedals are pushing tubes. I get it, it’s the tone that you go for and it sounds fine but you’re not “demoing” the amp at this point you’re demoing your tone.
@@Jerryleedlelee Isn't the point ultimately to hear how the amp handles one's personal tone preference though? Would you prefer if I tested every amp with all the dials at 12 o'clock for a "fair comparison" for instance? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no, that's not very useful for anyone. To answer your question, if you did a BKP demo and had chorus and delay on signal, as long as it's appropriate for the arrangement you're recording, and any comparison you do to any other pickup is fed through the same signal chain, then yea, I would be satisfied with that. It's more of a real life scenario than what I described with all the knobs at 12 o'clock, and thus, I think it'd be more useful for the listener. I suppose we can agree to disagree at the end of the day. I think we both fall somewhere in the middle of the extremes we've both described, just not in exactly the same place. I appreciate your input though, and the civil tone of discussion.
Owminator since youve actually tried this amp, would it be loud enough to play in small-medium venues without have a mic i know most places have a pa but my school dosent so i jut wanna know does it go loud
sweet cos at the moment i have a combo fender mustang which is a great solid state bedroom amp but i need something lounder and has a great tone so im looking at orange since they are quite versatile. at the moment the dual terror looks the best choice but im still doing my research Owminator
If you wanted a demo of an ENGL Ironball, why did you bother coming here in the first place? Also, that's not a definition of a "metal amp". It's an example. If you want to argue about opinions, I agree that the Dual Terror isn't ideal for metal. But that's not a statement of fact, it's an opinion.
Yeah but I'm searching for some high lead and sustain stuffs, orange is a great amp for sure however at high gain not good as others, such as mesa ,engl ...
Nice review and actually one of the better ones on this amp. Quite the entertaining vid as well. I wish more guitarists who do amp reviews would do the same and just fool with the knobs while playing. That really shows the capabilities sound wise better than just showing a few sounds clean and dirty.
Just bought this amp, i like that your adjusted the knobs while a riff was playing to hear in time tone changes.
Nice demo Skreetch!!! I'm in
Best review of an orange amp I've found in 2 weeks. I really liked how you separated the different tones and made it very easy for me to hear what you were trying to portray with the amp. Your review lead to purchase an orange amp, idk if that means anything to you lol. Either way thanks.
Ben Wallace
Thanks for the kind words! I'm sure you'll be happy with your purchase :)
Sweet sounds! Just wish it had an fx loop
I appreciate the shots of the knob settings. Gave me a great starting point. I have the same head and their 2 x 12" closed back v30 cab. I've wondered for a very long time how to use an overdrive with the dirty channel without turning the end result into pure mud. This was totally helpful. Thank you and best regards. Cheers!
Hey Todd, glad to hear it! Thanks for watching :)
I really liked the humor and the overall interview, Subed !
Tremblay Louis
Thanks for the kind words! I'll have more coming soon!
Well, I guess we fit into the "I love skyrim and guitar" group, eh?
Hahaha cute demo! Like it! Well done! (:
a sense of humour is good, like the demo. In fact bought the amp, very versatile amp but lack of onboard reverb gets me looking for a Fender again.
Dee Em
I have to agree, if you want onboard reverb, Fender have some of the best of the kind. Although they're not exactly metal amps :S
So, it depends on your style.
Thought I'd be happy with a pedal but much easier with onboard effects, I like to travel as light as I can on gigs, now I lug around a Boss GT pedal. not to worry, the amp has great tone.Thanks for your time ,cheers
Sick jam
Will it rock my 280w diezel cab? 😉
Wow that tone is really good for how small the amp is! What kind of metal style do you suggest with this? Looking to buy this for bedroom stuff but also to have a good small amp to take to rehearsals. Are there any other mirco or small sized amps you would suggest? Or is this one pretty good and I should stick with this?
+Guitar Pick
You could probably get a similar tone out of the Orange Micro Terror, and that little lunchbox is super affordable. Just make sure to boost the signal with a tubescreamer or similar. I wouldn't really suggest either amp for modern metal tones, as they have a distinctly British characteristics.
Great video! Very helpful. In your opinion, do you think, with the help of a compression pedal, you could get that metal tone tighter (less runny)? Great playing by the way.
Thanks for the kind words Mark. I don't think a compressor pedal would do you much good. For tightening the tone, by far the most effective method is using a tubescreamer style pedal as a volume boost and tone control (to cut some of the low end). Even with the use of such a pedal though, you won't get that ballsy modern tone you can expect from a 5150 or Dual Rectifier or such. If you're playing in Eb standard, drop D or E-standard, this amp will sound pretty friggin' sweet though. Anything lower and I would recommend looking elsewhere because of the woofy and muddy low end present in this amp.
+Kadence thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm probably gonna play in drop C or B. But in my guitar I do have a set of bare knuckle divebombs which have perfect saturation but are still really tight.
I really like this amp because of the option of doing lower wattage and not having to drag around a huge amp head.
You think something like a tube-screamer (plus an EQ pedal, to boost the mids a bit and cut the bass) wouldn't be enough to focus the sound when playing in D standard or Drop C? What tube/hybrid amp would you recommend that has a similar sound and isn't too expensive (possibly cheaper than the Dual Terror) and takes pedals well?
damn no effects loop? :(
Can you do this amp with the Revv pedal?
Can you get zero gain sounds out of this? Im looking for something that goes from really clean, ambient/mega delay capable sound to hard/punk rock and 20th C metal noise.
Great video btw
+PeppermintGreen
It is possible to get a completely clean tone in my experience, depending on the output of your guitar pickups and so on, but it's not ideal. Also, as mentioned, if your output to the amp is high, say if you use active pickups or a boost pedal of sorts, the pre-amp tubes would overload, even at extremely low gain. I would go for a different amp for that kind of versatility requirement, perhaps a solid state, if that's not a problem for you. I have an Ibanez TB100h amp head as well. Solid state, 100w, dirt cheap if you get it secondhand and it does some pretty good gainy tones as well as some great cleans. It's got built in reverb and two separate channels, and with the Footswitch pedal, there's really no reason to turn it down. I would also add that the TB412a cab that came with it in some packages back in the day is surprisingly good. It's not the best build quality, but the sound justifies that shortcoming.
Completely unmanageable if you have high output pickups or actives. On my Start the cleans are phenominal
Please help:
I can't choose between or15, dark terror, dual terror and Jim Root terror.
I want to play both rock and metal (black/death) and want to use it for my apartment and to record black metal.
I will not rehearse with the band so I won't compete with a drummer.
WOOLgum i n have an orange micro dark terror. It fits perfectly thet purpose that you describe. I changed the preamp tube and sounds tighter. I have also jammed with drumer and bassist and it is loud enough to cut through.
If you're doing cleans, get the Dual Terror. Otherwise, get the Jim Root. That 3 band EQ really helps.
But what other amp would you then recomend for the modern metal sound in the same price range?
+Lucas S. Lovén
A used Peavey 6505/5150 is the only amp you'll ever need for modern metal. I have a Bugera 6262 which sounds nearly identical. I'll have a demo on that coming out some time in the future. You know, when I'm finished writing the riffs.
no pedal loop =(
The fat channel is supposed to be gainer than the tiny terror channel. So either yours is broken, or you didn’t listen to it that well... at least you didn’t say that they’re the same, like another reviewer said ;)
Good review, though.
Hey bud great review! I've been for someone to boil down this amp professionally, and luckily you knew your shit. Question here if you can answer: My band I'm currently in is of Post-hardcore/Alt. rock style. Not metal or any crazy high gain sound of any sort, but we do play Drop B and C# standard. And I know how you brought up how it'll muddy up in those tunings. I'm looking to trade my Egnater Tweaker 88 head for a Dual Terror. In your opinion, would the Dual Terror still be a good investment in where I stand?
Ps- We're called To Live Again from Dallas, TX if you need a reference. Album is "Far From Home" Music is anywhere on Itunes, Spotify, Google Playback, Amazon, you can't miss it ;)
Nick Nazem
Hi Nick! Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, I don't know exactly what you're expecting to use the Dual Terror for, especially when you have a Tweaker 88. I wouldn't trade the tweaker for the Dual Terror, nor do I think the Dual Terror would be the best option for you in it's price range. I looked up your music and it seems you have a fairly modern sound, with the big bottom end and the crispy top end that typically come with American amps (6L6 power tubes and similar carry these traits very well). If you're looking for a tone that will blend with that style nicely and the low wattage is something you're looking for, I recommend something like the Laney IRT15H, Jet City JCA22H or the Randall RD20H.
I haven't personally played any of those amps (sadly I'm not rich D:), but they sound like they they're in the ballpark of what you're looking for.
Thanks for the insight duder! Always a breath a fresh air hearing it from someone else who's not inclined by brand lol
And actually my drummer (who was recording guitar for the cd) used a Jet City I believe to achieve the sound. So you're def. striking a literal chord sir lol
Glad to help. Good luck!
I was just having fun bro. An by the way Suffocation has one of the best guitarists in metal an he's black, so let's leave color out of it please.
what pick/pick gauge do you use?
+bradley hendry
I use a Winspear Icegrip series Battleaxe VIII, which has an 8mm profile towards the back.
rad
He wasnt trying to be Necrophagist
hi! what the name of your vst for EQs please ?
PS : Great vidéo and song !
Anthony Billas
Thanks Anthony! The EQ I used in this video is the Fabfilter Pro-Q. Hope it helps!
A lot Thann you !!
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A like will be really appreciated ! :D
How you gonna do an amp demo with an OD pedal lol
The OD pedal doesn't add any drive. It's acting as a boost and toneshaper before hitting the preamp. It's a very common technique for modern metal tones.
Kadence it is and I have no issues with it but an amp demo shouldn’t have any additional support, it’s the same as EQing after recording. Demos should be raw tone
@@Jerryleedlelee
And the OD used as a boost is part of the "raw tone" I was going for. Where do you draw the line? Should we stop using cabinets with our amp heads because they naturally low pass the signal from the amp head? Should we not use custom pickups in our guitars because it changes the response of the amp? Should tone knobs be disallowed because they remove top end from the raw signal?
I'm not saying you're wrong, what I am saying is that the kind of tone I'm going for and that I prefer for high gain metal is unattainable with most amplifiers without boosting and tone shaping the raw signal. That doesn't make my approach wrong, it's just outside of your personal preference, which to be fair, is totally fine. My problem with your statement is when you say "Demos SHOULD be raw tone". Not only have you not defined very well what "raw tone" means, but you're also implying that there's an arbitrary line in the sand when it comes to what "raw tone" is and you haven't defined it very well, or at all, and now you're using said arbitrary line to judge my amp demo, when really, it's just your personal tone preference that's getting the better of you.
As a last point, I believe it's quite common, even with amp demos, to high pass and low pass the final signal. Is that "wrong"?
Kadence if I do a bare knuckle pickup demo and my signal chain has a chorus pedal and delay, would you be satisfied with that?
No, how are you going to hear the original sound of the pickups when you have something altering it? The same goes for this, if I buy this amp solely based on your demo I’d be disappointed that I’d have to drop another 100-150 on an OD pedal to get the nice tone that’s coming from your video.
Everything is going to affect the tone, the type of cab you use, the type of mic you use, definitely the type of guitar you use and whether or not your volume and tone pots are 100% or 50% these are things everybody factors in when watching amp or pickup demos.
What is unnecessary to factor in is when distortion or over drive pedals are pushing tubes. I get it, it’s the tone that you go for and it sounds fine but you’re not “demoing” the amp at this point you’re demoing your tone.
@@Jerryleedlelee
Isn't the point ultimately to hear how the amp handles one's personal tone preference though? Would you prefer if I tested every amp with all the dials at 12 o'clock for a "fair comparison" for instance? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no, that's not very useful for anyone. To answer your question, if you did a BKP demo and had chorus and delay on signal, as long as it's appropriate for the arrangement you're recording, and any comparison you do to any other pickup is fed through the same signal chain, then yea, I would be satisfied with that. It's more of a real life scenario than what I described with all the knobs at 12 o'clock, and thus, I think it'd be more useful for the listener. I suppose we can agree to disagree at the end of the day. I think we both fall somewhere in the middle of the extremes we've both described, just not in exactly the same place. I appreciate your input though, and the civil tone of discussion.
you seem like a cool guy, i guess ill sub
+Jack Peters
I take that as a compliment. Thanks!
Owminator since youve actually tried this amp, would it be loud enough to play in small-medium venues without have a mic
i know most places have a pa but my school dosent so i jut wanna know does it go loud
The Dual Terror goes quite loud. Playing at your school shouldn't be much of a problem.
sweet cos at the moment i have a combo fender mustang which is a great solid state bedroom amp but i need something lounder and has a great tone so im looking at orange since they are quite versatile. at the moment the dual terror looks the best choice but im still doing my research Owminator
Remember to pair it with at least a 2x12 cab for volume. 4x12 would be even better.
Good sounding amp but that eq throws me off
It's odd for sure but I respect it's simplicity.
God get a new due man, you look so metal.hahaha
David moeller what does it matter what he looks like? You wouldn't think I played metal if you saw me either. Mostly because I'm black 😂
This isn't a metal amp
Define "metal amp".
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If you wanted a demo of an ENGL Ironball, why did you bother coming here in the first place? Also, that's not a definition of a "metal amp". It's an example. If you want to argue about opinions, I agree that the Dual Terror isn't ideal for metal. But that's not a statement of fact, it's an opinion.
Yeah but I'm searching for some high lead and sustain stuffs, orange is a great amp for sure however at high gain not good as others, such as mesa ,engl ...
Sure. I agree. But your initial blanket statement is still either misinformed or badly worded.
Get rid of the background piano- Crissake!
Do u live with ur mommy?
U kno... in the BASEMENT