Spending 2022 with the Aprilia Tuareg 660 | MCN Fleet Review
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I think adventure riders (myself incl) are quite spoiled right now. We want Bmw gsa comfort, ktm 300 exc weight, multistrada performance and tech, suzuki realibility in one bike that costs less than 10k with the 5 cent cost fairings that can be replaced on an instant 😅.
yeah, a Tuareg. 😎
precisely
I'm impressed that with such windy conditions you still made a great video.
I would guess that for british sound technicians, dealing with wind and rain noise is the 101 of their education. :)
Two great reviewers. Impressive that the sound wasn't pants given the wind.
Ya , I was lookin at her pants also...o0
Your point on dropping it / repairing is spot on. That's why I have my Himalayan. Little tank looks fine with a few dents.
Oil leaking from a new bike is a big nope for me. It's a known issue, and easily fixable, but still...
Thank you for a really worthwhile long term review. This is on my short list for a middleweight ADV bike, and I appreciate the candor.
Me too, but my biggest concern is with parts availability and price, reliability, and dealership support. I'm going to stick with my Honda CB500X as a result, but spec-wise the Tuareg is perfect. Hopefully one of Kawa, Suzuki, or Honda comes out with something comparable. I just want a bike like my CB500X that has a little more power, better suspension, and more ground clearance. I might buy a used Tenere in a few years from now, it's pretty close to a perfect fit for my needs too.
Excellent. Please continue.
I was expecting terrible audio from looking at all those leaves fluttering on the back.
I didn't get terrible audio.
Tip of the hat to that Mic and whoever does your editing, production or w/e is called. Good job. 👍
You can adjust the modes and traction control on the go.
Unfortunately waiting for parts is all part of owning a Aprilia,not good, but the dealer told me that Aprilia only do bulk orders and delivery,they don't send smaller items individually. Bit of a let down, but I just love my v4 tuono, so it's worth putting up with it.
The Part delivery problem seems to be mostly UK based as its mostly fine in germany. Mostly because electronics stuff can still take some time nowadays.
At least on the Rs 660 you can turn the switch gear to fit you! I turned mine and never hit the high beams unless I meant too . I bet this bike is the same. Aprilia does set it too low from the factory though.
There seems to be a bit of moaning about Saffron's lack of experience off road and her lack of mechanical knowledge. Why is that a problem? This isn't a road test, just the opinion of someone who managed nearly 4000 miles on the bike in three months-that sounds like a proper biker to me. I think her opinions and observations are completely valid. They may not be relevant for some people but for sure will be relevant to others. And isn't it great that young women are riding motorbikes?
Maybe because people who are looking at buying this bike are looking to MCN to provide feedback from experienced road testers
@@bazza8947 I'd have to chime in and point out that sometimes the input of someone inexperienced can provide useful information if you, as a potential buyer are inexperienced. Hearing an average riders perspective of a 1290r will probably be more useful than listening to Chris Birch telling you how he's just entered Erzberg 👍
@@nyedavis922 Well an inexperienced rider shouldn't be anywhere near a 1290!
I gotta chime in.................... I really like you guys and the neutral way you manage to review bikes.
Wonderful.
But, please, choise of tires, unfamiliarity with mode programming and such are not really part of a bike and if you want to revies a bikes capability off-road, you DO need to be skilled at going off-road.
But besides that, wonderful review.
How skilled would you expect someone to be? It's not an enduro bike and Saffron's entry in the Sweet Lamb Baja is possibly more than many owners would do.
@@gerry343 : Could be someone used to riding the TET or similar.
So many people today, women and men, are posting Vlogs with level 2-4 off-road travel.
Not that rare anymore.
I suppose that the input of someone less capable off road is equally as valuable as something of higher skill. It's good to get multiple perspectives to make the review relatable to a large target audience. E.g someone less skilled will enjoy a crf300 whereas a more experienced rider will immediately criticize the suspension and would be able to exploit the higher capabilities of something like an 890R, whilst not being so affected by the weight penalty of such a bike. As people of all abilities will be buying bikes it's nice to hear from someone whom you perceive as relatable to yourself
Really good summary
Interesting ... I just rented a Tuareg for a day yesterday, and went over a few high alpine mountain passes (i'm living in Switzerland). My conclusion ... It's a modern mechanical piece of art.
Good engine, good suspension, good ergonomics, excellent brakes, and I liked the dash board.
BUT ... as always ... pieces of art are never really useful in real life.
I'm surprised, that the the biggest problem I had, was not even mentioned: You got grilled on this bike, which means, you're not only sitting in a constant stream of "warm" air, the air from the cooler is HOT and your legs from the knee downwards get really grilled, specially at low speeds and even more so in the summer time. Your right feet has additionally to deal with the very hot air from the exhaust. This is absolutely, and I don't mean a little bit absolutly, I mean absolutly absolutly inacceptable.
The heat apparently comes from the Catalyst converter. Most common hack is to remove / replace this component ( aftermarket headers ) worth doing for an otherwise great motorbike ?
I live in the desert and while I do feel some warmth from the engine, I do not find it uncomfortable. As far as pieces of art not being practical, I totally disagree with you one day assessment. I have owned mine for 9 months and appreciate it more every time I ride it. It is an excellent piece of machinery.
We got an Aprilia dealer coming soon and this kind of concretes the skepticism i have with their bikes. Weird issues with the RS ive heard and you have oil leaks and long part wait times with your bike. 😬 Not the greatest.
Great video!
One of the worst reviews ever. Complicated dash? It is easier to use than a smart phone. Easy to use cruise control, easy to adjust engine modes on the fly without stopping or slowing. Excellent brakes. Plenty of power (Have passed cars going 80mph with plenty of power and acceleration to spare). Bike easily exceeds 100 mph. Smooth shifting gear box. Gear engagement is solid and secure. Off-road? this bike just won the African Eco Rally 2024. So the poor girl didn't like the tires that came with it, so what! Tires are cheap and easy to change. Put her on a scooter and get a real rider to test the bike please.
Nicely explained 👍
I would say this review is not well done. I would expect much more from this channel but disappointed.
The bike is great, its most underrated mid weight adv bike. Its much better then Tenere700 in a lot of aspects and its the only perfect competitor to T700.
Unfortunately the reviewer is not capable of testing this bikes true offroad power.
Onroad /offroad its a bliss to ride the Tuareg 660. Unless im going on world tour or 1000 miles away from
Civilization, i would not worry about the reliability.
Yes there are known reports of oil leak/coolant leaks(my bike doesnt leak), and its an easy fix under warranty and its not like the bike would stall the moment it starts leaking. The leak is actually a passage for oil to go out in case of an internal gasket issue. See aprilia engineers are not dumb.
Help an American out, how exactly do you define A, B roads, dual carriage way, etc. Motorway = our highway or expressway. Seems like what I've seen B roads are narrow country lanes about the size of our unlined roads (as in not wide enough for full legal lanes).
Motorways are your Highways or Interstate. 'A' roads are quick, decent visibility, in theory reasonably well surfaced. 'B' roads are smaller, more rural roads, often narrower & sometimes with high hedgerows giving poor visibility. 'Dual Carriageways' - means 2 lanes. Unless signs indicate otherwise, this means an automatic increase in top speed from 60 mph to 70 mph. A roads can be single or dual carriageway & can change as you travel along them. Speed limits vary accordingly. I think B-Roads are always single-carriageway.
A road, potholes
B road,lot more potholes
Aprilia and KTM seem to suffer with inconsistent quality assurance. A shame given the overall design and performance of their adventure bike.
Regarding the cost of parts, is the bike a tool or toy for you? For most people they're toys, so you take the rough with the smooth. As a year round rider they're tools, I do 20k miles a year and they get three years of regular servicing but no bodywork replacements. When I'm done the resale value is minimal compared to someone else's show pony anyways.
Great points thanks
Has anybody swapped the spoked wheels for road wheels for touring ?
Cool bike
I just KNEW the #1 dislike would be a reliability issue (oil leak). 👲
Its a known defect. A number of engines were assembled with the seal mounted the wrong way. Its a fok up from Aprilia no doubt, but its a one time fix, not a design flaw...
@@pgkr67 I think this has been going on for some years now, you'd think they might keep a couple of seals in the shop. nahh
It doesn’t have hazards which frustrates and confuses me. Seems like it would be easy enough to add through software.
I'm from India and really hoping Aprilia launches this here. If priced around 12 lac Rupees on road, this will be a smash hit. The 600cc ADV segment is literally non existent, can't really classify the Versys 650, Tiger 600, Vstrom 650 as true ADV. and the 900/1200cc segment is just way too expensive.
And this has a great seat height and tubeless spoked wheels. Fingers crossed. 🤞
The Martian Red is the best color combo I think.
What bike would she prefer or buy with her own money?
She gives a great review with excellent user information. 👍
Thats why bikes like suzuki v stroms and even DR650s are so popular, cheaper parts, easier to work on for the home mechanic. An old bike like the Yamaha XT500s, kawasaki KLR650 arent that popular for no reason same with diversion yamahas and suzuki bandits. Those parts bin specials were some of the most reliable, basic and economical bikes to run and even Triumph are cheaper for parts on their basic, no frills models but imagine spares prices on BMW a n d even Ducati monsters
So, "Would you buy one?"..... that's a no from Saffron.
It's funny to read all the know-it-all-stick-to-Japanese-obsolete-bikes people hereunder. They see Aprilia flaws about everywhere... just like about Moto Guzzi and Ducati some years ago. And guess who's ruling the market today?
In the 660-700 range, the Tuareg rules, by far.
I used to ride a Tuono V4 some years. Never failed and never had any bike (and I had some, of all kinds) producing such adrenaline rushes ! You can blame Italians for a lot, but they are king when it comes to exciting engines and vehicles.
I rode this bike for 20 minutes only and the recoil on the accelerator was so strong that my hand was cramping already. Such a shame cos it was a lovely looking bike. Seemed very underpowered coming from a 1200rs. Comfy and upright tho.
My hand used to cramp as well, got used to it after a little while.
Underpowered compared to a 1200? Duh yeah lol. I switched from a 1200cc Multistrada, and I don't miss the crazy power. The Tuareg fits me better, it's lighter and cheaper on insurance and gas 😃
@@SuperCheesyMan Yeah I get you. I loved the upright feel of it, felt super tall on the road. Was very strange having that big front wheel with no feeling after coming off a 17" rim tho.That hand cramping would do my head in tho as it´s not like it´s gonna gey better over time.
I was really close to buying this motorcycle. Coming from a 2002 bmw k1200lt throttle seemed lighter as did the whoke bike. Hard to compare a 20 year old throttle cable to ride by wire though.
isnt this why cruise control is so handy ?
Why would you evaluate an Adventure bike by a person who isn’t accomplished in the dart, except that she’s Cute ?
What about the proven FUN motor, low torque, high end shove, fully adjustable KYB suspension, Brembo's, tubeless rims, switchable (on the fly) modes, (inc power, EB, ABS and TC )Induction roar from the high (accessible under the tank cover) airbox, Low weight in its class (204kg wet), led lighting all round, Futuristic / exotic design, great ergo's BLAH BLAH. And NO i don't even own one ...YET !
Pity Honda doesn't make the Tuareg !
Nerdeyse almayın diyeceksiniz. Sanırım biraz ön yargılı gelinmiş. O kadarda kötü değil tuareg.
I have a Tuareg with about 2000 miles on it now and have experienced no issues. I suppose nothing is perfect. I will agree that parts do take a while to get. i ordered a seat it took 3 months to come in. I think the lady who reviewed the bike was more looking for a sport touring machine. This is a bare bones adventure bike. Kitting it out with GS style luggage does the bike a disservice. It small slim and light for the woods of which she admittedly had no experience. MCN get it together this is a terrible bike review.
Not that barebones , and the luggage was Aprilia. Send them a memo.
@@anxiousappliance The Aprilia luggage is too large and over priced. Many riders in the US are enjoying these bikes on our BDRs (similar to your TAT)
In the US, most are buying the more slim off road luggage which suits off-road travel better.
@@briangc1972 How are the bikes holding up on the BDRs?
Nice to hear the views from a less experienced rider (and one that is much better looking than Neevesy 😉😂)
I wouldnt buy one mainly because you need to take out a mortgage for new spares. 4 figures for a few parts that means you drop it, its written off by the insurance company and with delicate aprilia things electrical nlike speedo and tft dash bthats well over £1000 i imagine for a new one if it goes wrong. Id get an AJP for that reason. They give bearing o ring and other part specs and sizes so you dont pay 5 times the price for a wheel bearing with apfilia genuine spares and wait several months to get them from Italy. Well vdone AJP a truely accessable bike vfor a working class youngster on minimum wage.
Someone wrote, and I cannot verify the truth of it, that,including demonstrators, only 42 were registered in the UK until September '22? Which,given £1800 off list now, maybe correct? Offered Wheels,Peterborough a trade for my 2200mile, only 3mth on the road Tracer7 + cash for one with over 1000miles, they never even bothered responded back,more fools them,by the look of it? Who wants back up like that,when they do not even want your cash,imagine an "oil leak" or something? Since changed my mind,after seeing something else that's coming out in 2023, someone that'll take my hard earned! Long-term purchase, if you're not renting one,as you'll never sell it on, unless you lose a huge chunk of change!(over 2000 Tenere registered, not as nice, but got the badge on the tank).
It’s funny hearing that this thing seems to be struggling at 70mph. Ride a KLR650 on the highway and talk to me about struggling at 70 😂
My Tuareg 660 EASILY exceeds 100mph. This girl is not telling the truth. I know several other Tuareg 660 owners and everyone of them has exceeded 90 mph with power to spare. I don't know how she can make such a ridiculous false claim. I have passed cars that were going 80mph and easily accelerated past them. Sounds like a hit piece by someone who really didn't want to do the test. Put her on a scooter, it is more her style.
Oil leak? That’s why I stick to Japanese bikes never had that in forty years of riding.
Mine doesnt leak
Its just the seal in the waterpump mounted backwards from the factory. Its a one time fix. Just an annoyance. Its a fok up from Aprilia yes, no doubt. But its a known thing and i wonder why the dealers dont have that seal in stock. They know about this..
I test road one and was majorly disappointed. Overly complex dash, really hard to pick out basic info as there's so much clutter, but the worst part was the wind noise. Like sticking your head out of a door into a gale, no matter how the screen was adjusted.
But....the screen is not adjustable. The dash is super easy to use and very clear. You sure you actually tried one ?
@@SuperCheesyMan Exactly. No matter how I moved, I couldn't get the wind noise to go. And I'd rather watch the road than stare at the screen. You wouldn't believe how much I wanted this bike to work for me.
Rider height plays a major role in the presence/lack of buffeting, I think the tester's height and inseam info should be integral to reviews. Neeves frequently mentions his height, for good reason. (Another thing is lighting - it is almost always overlooked.)
@@mrsilbo6499 I have a adjustable wind spoiler on mine, works great for me (and earplugs). As for the screen, stop looking at it and look at the road instead lol. joke aside, when you get used to it, you know where to look automatically. I suggest you to give it a try again.
I really really like mine
Couple of years ago I took FJ09 for a test ride. The wind noise compering to my 2017 V Strom was unbearable and that with already installed Givi windscreen on it. Week later when I got this bike home and installed adjustable spoiler on the top of windscreen it despaired almost completely. No more noise.
Is she one your motorcycle journalists? She’s admitting to not having much experience on motorcycles, not really and expert in any particular field of this bike other than having a licence. Typical TH-cam content creators, have no real knowledge other than to say I have a voice and an opinion. Where’s the passion?
My main observation ( replied to on an earlier post) was the reviewer's lack of proper specification / feature acknowledgement. Also repeated phrases ( which should have been rehearsed ) like "not the best ... but not the worst", "and several variations on that theme ... Hmmmmm ?
More driving less talking
For heaven's sake, can't MCN find people that actually have an interest and a little knowledge about the bikes being tested....this was tedious....its like being sat in a barber's chair.
I couldn't help wondering how someone with four off-road rides, little mechanical knowledge, and no track experience (granted, not crucial for this review), got to be a reviewer for MCN. It's great to get a 'newbie's' point of view (especially a woman's POV - the more the merrier), but to have the title of moto journalist?
@@MadChalet I thought she had a pretty good grasp of things. I think she may be a staff person not a journalist therefore, perfect for a impartial revue.
Harsh. If you met an owner at a bike meet, this is just the sort of conversation you might have. She seemed quite eloquent and not every rider has to be an expert.. you just have to like bikes.
She rides bikes she’s young and this is what motorcycling needs. Not all of us are baja experts I’ve got an adventure bike not taken it off road but did do a bit back in my army days. We need young blood getting on 2 wheels and this is a good advert for it. Well done MCN.
@@iancharlton5530 I totally agree with having younger reviewers, female reviewers, and reviewers of different races and ethnicities (the latter we really don't see enough of). On the other hand, she herself said she had little off-road experience, and little mechanical knowledge. I didn't say that being a Baja expert was required, but certainly someone with a breadth of knowledge/experience isn't too hard to find, regardless of age, gender, race, etc. But as I said above, I enjoy MCN reviews and listening to this discussion about the Toureg was certainly not the low point of my day. ✌
Omg I completely disagree! The white and blue one looks terrible! So cheap looking.
Shout out to my East African ladies that know how it feels to be bigger in the back than the front😁.
Great bike though.
I find he girl extremely attractive!
She doesn’t really tell us anything we didn’t know. I guess Michael sets the bar so high idk
Overrated, overhyped and overpriced Piaggio.
Nobody’s gonna say it?
The T7 is better.
@@andrewkitchenuk Pfff. No.
Traction control can be adjusted on the fly in every mode and even turned off completely without going into the menu. Rtfm! 😑
Told me all I needed to know.
Thank you, I won't be buying one.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Love this bike, great video