Over the past 40 years I have started probably 200 horses from age 3 through 15 under saddle. In that time I only had two buck the first time on. Both times because I got in a bit of a hurry and didn't do quite enough ground work first. I grew up on a working ranch in the Powder River country of WY. As a kid this is how it was done. But when in high school I met the first real horseman. I was so impressed with him I asked him to help me start my first colt. This man could take a horse fresh out of a wild herd and be on it, totally calm and relaxed in less than an hour! Only man I have ever seen that could do that!
I’ve broke and trained many horses. I always like the ones that had never been touched by someone else. More often then not most horses wouldn’t buck. Starting colts you have to be quick. You have to keep the horses attention. By putting pressure on them. Not to much pressure that they freak out and don’t know how to respond. And you reward the slightest try. Gotta be black and white with them. Every time I do this you must do that and I release. Then you ride on a draped rein. If your putting pressure on the horse your telling him to do something. So many people get on tell the horse to go and stop at the same time, or tell the horse to go left and allow it to go right.. It causes problems and could get you hurt!
@@kevinrickard4830 Yes, I don't like to redo someone else's screw ups either. Takes 10 times longer to undo mistakes than doing it right the first time. As for attention, they don't have a long attention span, some longer than others. To continue past that attention span is a waste of time. I also don't like the term "breaking"! The man I mentioned made it clear to me he didn't break horses, he trained them, and to do that he had to establish himself as "leader", not master.
That’s right you’re not the boss you’re the leader. Being a good leader the horses trust you. John and Josh Lyons put on a obstacle course at the trail horse in Lexington Virginia. One of the obstacles in the course is a 40” bridge you go up and it drops off . Horses don’t have good depth perception so they would step and there was no ground. The horse had to trust you that it wasn’t stepping off a cliff. Once you gain there trust, they know your not letting a lion tiger or bear get them. They will do most anything. You’re right you are their leader not their boss.
@@rexchristian3067 Yeah, Rex, I got this man to help me start a colt, his instruction was valuable to say the least. And I went to the ranch he worked for and watched him to learn. But he instructed me to use methods I never saw him use. Only thing I can come up with was he had some sort of ability of mentally communicating with horses, as weird as that sounds. I asked him how he did that, only answer he gave was to do what he did one had to completely understand how a horse thinks. I have never seen anyone who could come close to his ability!
Not my way of breaking a horse but you cowboys do end up with loyal, good horses so something must be working. Just remember a saddle pad next time my guy
In my opinion it's because nothing bad happens (in the horse's definition of bad) when the "scary thing" didn't get bucked off. Now the scary thing isn't scary anymore. In the horse's mind, in chronological order: 1) The horse bucked because it thought it needed to in order to be safe again. 2) It failed to buck the scary thing off. Horse relaxes. (2.5 = Release from pressure by the rider, when the horse relaxes (NOT a dismount, or the horse will come to the wrong conclusion, and think it scared the scary thing away, AKA scary thing is still scary and dangerous, but I chased it off, and I'll have to buck to chase it off next time too)) 3) The scary thing didn't eat it. Nothing bad happened. Everything is suddenly ok now. 4) The scary thing isn't scary, it's neutral or friendly. It's how a horse approaches anything new. 😊👍
I started my colt at 2 and he didnt buck or scare at all. I am only 14 and he is a mustang from off the range. No bucks freakouts or rears at all. I did ground work for a year&a half before even thinking about riding. So yeah he is 2&1/2 almost 3 now and he is the most well behaved colt I've ever met
@Dillon i understand some people think doing groundwork for that long is too long or weird but for one he was too young to ried and he was and is still very skittish and he doesn't trust new people at all. imagine being taken away from your mother at a young age and being herded up with a helicopter, chased around by other horses, to be at the bottom of the herd and not get to eat every day?? imagine being shoved into a trailer and having people you don't know poke you and try to train you? i needed not to work mainly on groundwork with him i NEEDED to build trust and love between him and i, that is why i didn't try to saddle him and scare him into being afraid of people. he is my best friend and i love him and vice versa for him. He needed the extra year of just bonding with me and someone to love him just like a mother. That is why i spent so much time doing groundwork and showing him new things, and building up that bond that we have now.
This is not a good way to train any Animal. Idc if they are a Sporthorse, Cowhorse, Workhorse or Companion. It's not true horsemanship it's just a traditional form of abuse.
Breaking her the ol Cowboy way, you rode her well! However not So pleased with the fact you aren’t using a saddle pad, that will give her back soars that’ll Make her not wanna be ridden. It won’t hurt to by a 30$ saddle pad!
@@samclegg2805 we can agree to disagree but it does. it's like if you wore shoes with out socks its uncomfortable right? and you want the horse to be as comfortable as possible. if you have a saddle rubbing its withers raw that horse will develop behavior problems.
@@lillianwoods2290 shruggie, yeah if it rubs their withers raw they will misbehave. I have ridden dozens of horses the first time with thin blankets or nothing but sheepskin and not ever, even one time, has the 20 minute ride ever caused a problem with young horse. Your sock analogy sucks by the way. Do you put socks on to put on your flip flops when you go grab something out of your car? Or are we having a competition on who can ask stupid nonsense questions that don't have anything to do with the subject matter? I kid I kid. In all seriousness 2 year old horses are slippery and on some of them anything more than a thin blanket can make it very difficult to keep your saddle on them and if you can sometimes you get to where your going and you don't have a saddle pad. I've lost a few pads off 2-3 year old horses on gathering trip. You seem like you have way more experience than me so you're probably right.
@@samclegg2805 see your just a abusive human I’m not even Gonna call you a rider your just a horable person and shouldn’t be around animals your “example” sucks like you idc what you say to me a saddle pad helps a lot and if you don’t use one it proves your an abusive person. Not using a saddle pad can cause back problems, sores, and a sway back. A sway back in unfixable, the saddle rubs into the horses bones and shapes them and makes a sway back. If you think you shouldn’t use a saddle pad how bout you use one for a day and see how much better your horse acts bc your horse prob Bucky you all the time. If it had a chance to run off it would bc it’s scared of you bc you abuse your horse. Your horse prob has a sway back and your to blind to realize coward
@@yourlocalweirdo5389 *too* blind *too* realize. The people who know what they are talking about always resort to personal attacks on strangers. You know nothing about me nor my experience. I am speaking to what I have experienced, if that upsets you, well that says way more about you than it does me. I didn't say you shouldn't use saddle pads, I said it won't make a difference for a 20 min ride in a round pen on a 2 year old horse. I have no experience with horses with sway backs, thus I cannot speak to whether your assertion regarding pads preventing sway back as fact, you may be right. I fail to see how what I have conveyed as my experience with livestock has given you license to brand me a "coward" so if you happen to be right about that we'll have to admit that's a coincidence.
@@henryhenry903 Mostly because too many people still have the notion a horse must subdued. The man I mentioned below taught me to be the horse's leader, not its master. Big difference. Horses depend on their leader. Over the years I had only 2 buck with me when I first got on. In both cases it was because I had not carried out the ground work quite as long as I should have.
Ron Fillmore yup you are right when I started working with horses i was told get on and get back on if you get bucked off which I did and learned pretty quick that the end result wasn’t quite what I wanted so I started reading and going to clinics and came up with a good mixture of bits a piece that work good for me and I have never looked back, on average I put a month of ground work on any given colt I start, and you really just get on and continue training after that because they don’t buck and you aren’t going backwards
@@henryhenry903 Exactly! I teach them everything they need to know from the ground before I get on. I use long lines attached to the sides of a halter and ran through the stirrups, tied together under the horse. Obviously, the horse is already accustomed to the saddle. Forward, backward, stops, turns, yielding the front and hind quarters from both sides. Then it depends on the horse. My usual method first time on is to ease up and stand on the stirrup. If horse seems OK with that I will swing my leg over and step down on the off side. May repeat from one side to the other 3-4 times. If the horse is nervous about it, that's all for that day. If not nervous, I will eventually sit in the saddle for a while and let the horse relax. If horse is still relaxed I usually ask for a couple of steps backward, something I have trained extensively from the ground! If the horse handles that OK, I'll ask to move forward. Keep everything low keyed, maybe a few turns both directions! That is usually all I do the first ride. This system has worked well for young horses and one 13 year old and two 15 year old mares that had never been ridden.
@@garrettwade3623 That is a very false statement. It's normal for a horse to buck a bit when they're saddled for the first time, but they shouldn't be taking off like a bronco when you sit on them for the first time. I've seen many horses be completely calm when started undersaddle, no bucking at all. Sometimes there's an odd case but thats not due to a lack of prep. There are plenty of videos out there that can prove your statement wrong as well.
Clinton Anderson starting colts has a great method down under horse man ship also John Lyons book round pen reasoning any way we all got to start some where you can be a bronc rider or a horse man Iam to old to be a bronc rider thanks for the video it was entertainment.
SMH I like how these comments make it sounds like they kno what they r doing. Starting colts like this has always been done and still works. Good job y’all n have a good day
No stirrups in the beginning? Boys got Velcro on his pants and seat 😂 I’m glad he tightened that cinch though. I saw it roll when he got on and thought for sure he was gonna be under her
Yes, they are. That filly will NEVER FORGET SHE WAS SAFE THE ENTIRE TIME. She didn't know what he was doing or what to do herself, but especially when she fell, he stayed calm, didn't jerk her, and so now she trusts him.
Half y’all commenting saying “there’s a better way, I would know” yet you’re starting old horses that were let to sit out in a field for a while. Honest truth is, half y’all wouldn’t have the stones to do what this kid is doing. Nor do y’all know the pretense. Horses can still explode and have some tantrum no matter how much prep you do, you just gotta learn to prepare and ride it out. Not all of us get to ride bomb proof nanny ponies our daddies bought us.
@Madison Castillo and by that you mean? Point is, horses are unpredictable. The process people are seeing and judging is less then 3 minutes long. Starting horses can take up to a year. We don’t know the whole process, and no matter how much preparation and desensitization you do there can be an explosion of natural fear caused by instincts. You cannot train out natural prey behavior. This kid sticks in his saddle, and is persistent. He’s confident and calm. Everyone is different, that’s obvious, but so is every horse. Horses can be ridden for the first time and they act like they’ve been doing it for life, horses who’ve been risen for life can still manage to explode in random situations.
Ok girl no, there is a better way, and it’s not that other people who train horse’s don’t “ have the stones to do it this way” we don’t have the heart to let our horses or ourselves get hurt. Horses can snap their legs like twigs and this is a good way to injure your horse not to mention the man. Yes all horses have temper tantrums and bursts of energy that you have to ride out but this is no way to solve it. We are not in the old days anymore, there are different and better ways of starting a horse, people like this don’t know better, like this, or believe it’s right but it’s not.
@@sinaravelazquez7472 honey, you’re literally solidifying my point. You don’t know the whole story, horses are prey animals. They’ll react to things by panicking if they aren’t familiar no matter the amount of prep you put in before hand. The rider remains calm and sticks in his seat and tries to maintain his weight distribution despite the fit the horse throws. I never said we were in the old days, but these trainers understand horses will react however they end up reacting we just have to ride it out and find a solution as we go.
@@luciaramirez7191 that’s not hat I meant, by the old days I mean people breaking horses. There are safer ways of starting a horse ,for the people but mostly for the horse because if it gets hurt to a point it will be put down. And I understand completely, horses will spook it’s natural and unavoidable and you have to ride it out. I was talking about the starting of the horse not the riding. Starting a horse like this can hurt it before it’s fully trained.
@@sinaravelazquez7472 the horse isn’t being started JUST now. Obviously they’ve undergone haltering, leading, handling, grooming, desensitization etc. you’re assuming their only method is to throw a saddle on and hop on and hope for the best, when it’s pretty obvious that’s far from the truth. Also, I never said anything about this being the only method of starting horses. So like I said before, you can prep as much as you want, it’s healthy that you do, however a horse is still an animal. They will react to unfamiliar situations and conditions, no matter the preparation. We just have to learn to handle it and work through it and hopefully get to an extent of managing that behavior and teaching horses to react with care and attempt to understand the situation rather then freak out. This is not the only starting this horse has been through, obviously. How you can’t see that, I’m not quite sure but I suggest you think a little harder instead of assuming this is the only training young horses are brought into.
@Dillon : Well ... to twist an ear is a " Distraction " . So is using a twitch , lip chain , to hold a skin fold on one's neck , to put a finger in one's eye ... You are not talking to a rookie .
@Dillon : My IGNORANT friend ... one doesn't merely " hold " the ear . One TWISTS it and the harder you twist an ear , the better it's effect . IF you had any education AT ALL about equines and the means of " restraint " , you would know this so go bot yourself up your bum . P.S. I'd bet that you've no idea what a " Bot fly " is ... Google it .
@Dillon : A hahaha ha ! Beginner . Rookie . Moron . You've never eared one before , have you ? Keep talking . I love the hole that you're digging for yourself !
This is ridiculous in this day and age. Y'all are pathetic. Watch some Mustang training videos or Pat Parelli. This horse will not respect any of you. You could have really hurt that horse running it into the fence. No horsemanship here.
Ronnie Pitchford the other way how they do it now and day its to try and get the rope around the horse's foot and try to make it bow and get it to trust the person
@@bigmannjunior5865 what in the hell kind of garbage is that? That's old style, forcing a horse to do things. The proper way to start a horse, in my opinion and from experience, is bareback. Don't even introduce a saddle until that horse is moving off your cues bareback. Introduce the saddle when you're ready to advance from a walk, 9 times out of 10, the feeling of a saddle is what makes them buck, not your weight. I've trained a handful of horses and starting this way they never buck with me unless something startles them. You have to build up from ground level, trust is a two way street.
What in the methanphetimine is going on here. This isnt colt starting. Come on, have some more pride in what you do. And yes, I have trained my own animals. There is a better way
@Milla Kjølset-Følgesvold you always have to put down that first ride, but there is a foundation below that. Groundwork, actual horsemandhip. Not just hopping on and yeehaw. That's not how you train a horse to last. You can do that walmart trainer bullshit if you want but tell me how good your animal you have after that and tell me how long before you're spitting the excuse you had to sell it at auction to a meat buyer because you wanted the quick way, not the right way. Maybe not you persay, but think of someone as an example. Like the asshole who responded to me first. That guy, is a dumbass hick.
This video just makes me sad. Crazy how some people just don't train ground work enough. You should get on and get off, and repeat. This makes me so angry that after she\he was standing still but not going crazy, you hit her with a rope to try and "buck her out" instead of patting her and using positive reinforcement. People these days.
This is a correct way to break a horse. There are different ways and methods, everyone will go about it there own way. But this is the preferred method, put it out there and get it done.
@@themississippicowboy1576 This is absolutely not how you do it. This is shit riding. Grabbing onto the nose as he mounts? As soon as the horse moves pull back hard on the thin rope around the horses nose? The old way is called the old way because it's old and outdated. We have moved on and have the education to know there are MUCH better ways. If he were to take a month or two working with this horse this bucking episode would of never happened. Train your horse properly
Please don´t ride like this. That´s old school. The horse is scared, does not know what to do. The only thing a horse can do, is to buck. If you start slow, teach him ground work, how to go left and right, how to communicate, how to wear a saddle and a bridle, it will trust you. This is the wrong way to start a horse. The horse can hurt you and it can hurt himself. I feel sorry for this horse, because human can be so stupid and think, yeah, it´s great to break a bucking horse. No it isn´t. It shows that those people never have learned from the past.
the only reason they don't have a bit is because when your breaking a colt or a filly they don't use bits at the beginning because the horse is either just learning about the halter or the horse is green broke. but I promise the bit wont hurt the horse. no worries
I train the new school way and I always will but I've ridden plenty of great horses that were twitched with a bag over their head to start. It's not a pleasant experience for the horse and I would rather hook up with one and hopefully they never buck but there are a lot of good horses out there started the old school way.
Jake kinda scare not moving the horse with his rein but basically just sitting on the colt probably in his mindset he's thinking "please don't buck, please don't buck" over and over ....
No, quarter horses are just smaller. I have a quarter horse whose 8 and as long as his legs fit in the stirrups and the horse isnt physically struggling then it's fine. I'm a vet and hes right about the weight limit for this horse.
Shouldve taught him to move out on the ground. And got off when he was standing still. I dont know why you gotta bounce all over him and slam onto his back if you were a good rider
I hope y'all are handling your horses this way because you have so many that you cant afford to spare the time to train them thoroughly and can only green break em. At the same time it may be best for you not to handle em at all considering a horse trained the wrong way is worse than a horse not trained at all.
Lol why do they WANT it to buck? What are they trying to do? Are they trying to train it to be a rodeo bronc or what? I genuinely dont understand the goal or desired outcome.
Not hating because I know that’s what you guys are gonna say but there is so many good horseman out there go to a clinic or two before putting out a video
0:41 when she stops, that when you pat her, rub her neck and tell her she's a "good girl" you don't just sit there and wait for her to buck again. you could even get off and give her some treats because she did so well for her first time ridden and calmed down after less than a minute.
Yeah, I'm a city slicker wanna be trainer. Ha. You have not prepared this horse on the ground. She doesn't understand what you're asking her to do. She needs patience and your wisdom, both of which seem to be in short supply.
Next time please try use a saddle pad. It will be more comfortable for the horse and they will get used to it faster because it wont hurt them as much (no hate just for the horse and the riders safetey)
Get off my You tube : The saddle pad ... they probably give it to the poor dogs who sleep in the stable . The horse is no friend and more than likely , neither are their working dogs . Just Machinery things . Sooo ... what of their women ??????
For good trainers, colt starting isnt like this. You do things so slowly, when my trainer gets on her young horses, they only buck once small at the most. This means they didn't put enough effort into slowly starting them up.
Disgusting! If you have to twitch a horse's ear and pinch her nose to get on...the poor horse aint ready to get on!!!! Haven't we moved pass the medieval way of training horses by now! I started my stallion and he never bucked once when I started him, because I took "his" time!!
This is actually age to start the horse. I have a horse that I broke and she was fairly short for her age compared to my others. And getting on fast is actually better for a horse it teaches them that they’re gonna have to do this and it’s not gonna hurt them. My horse freaked out when I would put a saddle blanket on without her smelling it or anything. After a couple tries she got over it and I let her smell it and within 2 days of doing this I was able to get on. And why do you have to say this they’re are a lot of ways people break horses. Look at the outcome of their horses. They are fine so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it😂
I’ll tell y’all, every time I see this, I can’t help but think how many times before this scene has been performed over the centuries. I hope it continues…Cowgirls and Cowboys forever‼️
@@phillipsegovia218 it takes a lot of time and knowledge as u know to start a horse. I don’t even know if this video was for real or just a joke but sad for the horse 🤦♀️
This breaks my heart a 300 pound human riding a foal you shouldn’t be riding a foal it makes the horse have bad experience and have trust issues and be scared of you
Over the past 40 years I have started probably 200 horses from age 3 through 15 under saddle. In that time I only had two buck the first time on. Both times because I got in a bit of a hurry and didn't do quite enough ground work first. I grew up on a working ranch in the Powder River country of WY. As a kid this is how it was done. But when in high school I met the first real horseman. I was so impressed with him I asked him to help me start my first colt. This man could take a horse fresh out of a wild herd and be on it, totally calm and relaxed in less than an hour! Only man I have ever seen that could do that!
I’ve broke and trained many horses. I always like the ones that had never been touched by someone else.
More often then not most horses wouldn’t buck.
Starting colts you have to be quick. You have to keep the horses attention. By putting pressure on them. Not to much pressure that they freak out and don’t know how to respond. And you reward the slightest try. Gotta be black and white with them. Every time I do this you must do that and I release. Then you ride on a draped rein. If your putting pressure on the horse your telling him to do something. So many people get on tell the horse to go and stop at the same time, or tell the horse to go left and allow it to go right.. It causes problems and could get you hurt!
@@kevinrickard4830 Yes, I don't like to redo someone else's screw ups either. Takes 10 times longer to undo mistakes than doing it right the first time. As for attention, they don't have a long attention span, some longer than others. To continue past that attention span is a waste of time. I also don't like the term "breaking"! The man I mentioned made it clear to me he didn't break horses, he trained them, and to do that he had to establish himself as "leader", not master.
That’s right you’re not the boss you’re the leader. Being a good leader the horses trust you. John and Josh Lyons put on a obstacle course at the trail horse in Lexington Virginia. One of the obstacles in the course is a 40” bridge you go up and it drops off . Horses don’t have good depth perception so they would step and there was no ground. The horse had to trust you that it wasn’t stepping off a cliff. Once you gain there trust, they know your not letting a lion tiger or bear get them. They will do most anything. You’re right you are their leader not their boss.
That's called a horse whisper some s got some don't I v been working with wild mustang s most my life takes a lot of time
@@rexchristian3067 Yeah, Rex, I got this man to help me start a colt, his instruction was valuable to say the least. And I went to the ranch he worked for and watched him to learn. But he instructed me to use methods I never saw him use. Only thing I can come up with was he had some sort of ability of mentally communicating with horses, as weird as that sounds. I asked him how he did that, only answer he gave was to do what he did one had to completely understand how a horse thinks. I have never seen anyone who could come close to his ability!
“No whining on film” lol
Dad wisdom 😂
Not my way of breaking a horse but you cowboys do end up with loyal, good horses so something must be working. Just remember a saddle pad next time my guy
He is wearing a saddle pad
i like u peppy i really do ty so much
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You bet.
In my opinion it's because nothing bad happens (in the horse's definition of bad) when the "scary thing" didn't get bucked off. Now the scary thing isn't scary anymore.
In the horse's mind, in chronological order:
1) The horse bucked because it thought it needed to in order to be safe again.
2) It failed to buck the scary thing off. Horse relaxes.
(2.5 = Release from pressure by the rider, when the horse relaxes (NOT a dismount, or the horse will come to the wrong conclusion, and think it scared the scary thing away, AKA scary thing is still scary and dangerous, but I chased it off, and I'll have to buck to chase it off next time too))
3) The scary thing didn't eat it. Nothing bad happened. Everything is suddenly ok now.
4) The scary thing isn't scary, it's neutral or friendly.
It's how a horse approaches anything new. 😊👍
I started my colt at 2 and he didnt buck or scare at all. I am only 14 and he is a mustang from off the range. No bucks freakouts or rears at all. I did ground work for a year&a half before even thinking about riding. So yeah he is 2&1/2 almost 3 now and he is the most well behaved colt I've ever met
my friends trained a 2 yr old filly and she was the same way.
@Dillon you are actually the one doing it wrong. You should do a year of ground work...you shouldn’t train a horse in a week....
@Dillon i understand some people think doing groundwork for that long is too long or weird but for one he was too young to ried and he was and is still very skittish and he doesn't trust new people at all. imagine being taken away from your mother at a young age and being herded up with a helicopter, chased around by other horses, to be at the bottom of the herd and not get to eat every day?? imagine being shoved into a trailer and having people you don't know poke you and try to train you? i needed not to work mainly on groundwork with him i NEEDED to build trust and love between him and i, that is why i didn't try to saddle him and scare him into being afraid of people. he is my best friend and i love him and vice versa for him. He needed the extra year of just bonding with me and someone to love him just like a mother.
That is why i spent so much time doing groundwork and showing him new things, and building up that bond that we have now.
@Dillon I’m just saying you should train a horse for awhile...take it slow
@Dillon I’m a equestrian...I’m a jumper...who ar eu to assume I’ve never seen a horse in my life..
Love this. Its how we started them when I was a kid. Funny, she stopped when you hollered at the dog. She will be one to listen to you.
Thank you kindly for demonstrating your extreme lack of horsemanship and knowledge.
:) work horses are trained different than an event horse. It's called...work.
@Sesshomaru Uzumaki Rubbish!
This is not a good way to train any Animal. Idc if they are a Sporthorse, Cowhorse, Workhorse or Companion. It's not true horsemanship it's just a traditional form of abuse.
We all break them different huh
Boy did good. Training men not beasts lol
Looks like your doing it the hard way Tex!
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@@sirleigaldino499 Boa
*bucking situation*
Colt: gosh, did you see that? It was like a tornado! Oh wait it was me he he
A dose of and textbook example of good ole boy rough backyard TX horsemanship.
Breaking her the ol Cowboy way, you rode her well! However not So pleased with the fact you aren’t using a saddle pad, that will give her back soars that’ll Make her not wanna be ridden. It won’t hurt to by a 30$ saddle pad!
The saddle pad isn't going to make a difference for the 20-30 minutes he's going to be saddled
@@samclegg2805 we can agree to disagree but it does. it's like if you wore shoes with out socks its uncomfortable right? and you want the horse to be as comfortable as possible. if you have a saddle rubbing its withers raw that horse will develop behavior problems.
@@lillianwoods2290 shruggie, yeah if it rubs their withers raw they will misbehave. I have ridden dozens of horses the first time with thin blankets or nothing but sheepskin and not ever, even one time, has the 20 minute ride ever caused a problem with young horse. Your sock analogy sucks by the way. Do you put socks on to put on your flip flops when you go grab something out of your car? Or are we having a competition on who can ask stupid nonsense questions that don't have anything to do with the subject matter? I kid I kid. In all seriousness 2 year old horses are slippery and on some of them anything more than a thin blanket can make it very difficult to keep your saddle on them and if you can sometimes you get to where your going and you don't have a saddle pad. I've lost a few pads off 2-3 year old horses on gathering trip. You seem like you have way more experience than me so you're probably right.
@@samclegg2805 see your just a abusive human I’m not even Gonna call you a rider your just a horable person and shouldn’t be around animals your “example” sucks like you idc what you say to me a saddle pad helps a lot and if you don’t use one it proves your an abusive person. Not using a saddle pad can cause back problems, sores, and a sway back. A sway back in unfixable, the saddle rubs into the horses bones and shapes them and makes a sway back. If you think you shouldn’t use a saddle pad how bout you use one for a day and see how much better your horse acts bc your horse prob Bucky you all the time. If it had a chance to run off it would bc it’s scared of you bc you abuse your horse. Your horse prob has a sway back and your to blind to realize coward
@@yourlocalweirdo5389 *too* blind *too* realize. The people who know what they are talking about always resort to personal attacks on strangers. You know nothing about me nor my experience. I am speaking to what I have experienced, if that upsets you, well that says way more about you than it does me. I didn't say you shouldn't use saddle pads, I said it won't make a difference for a 20 min ride in a round pen on a 2 year old horse. I have no experience with horses with sway backs, thus I cannot speak to whether your assertion regarding pads preventing sway back as fact, you may be right. I fail to see how what I have conveyed as my experience with livestock has given you license to brand me a "coward" so if you happen to be right about that we'll have to admit that's a coincidence.
What the hell were you doing?
I do not fucking know
STOP SWEARING!
@@michelletrombley9960 no
With some good ground work teaching the colt to think it’s way through new situations you won’t have them freeze up and even buck in most cases
Exactly!
Ron Fillmore it’s crazy how many people skip through the ground work and have problems later on because of it.
@@henryhenry903 Mostly because too many people still have the notion a horse must subdued. The man I mentioned below taught me to be the horse's leader, not its master. Big difference. Horses depend on their leader. Over the years I had only 2 buck with me when I first got on. In both cases it was because I had not carried out the ground work quite as long as I should have.
Ron Fillmore yup you are right when I started working with horses i was told get on and get back on if you get bucked off which I did and learned pretty quick that the end result wasn’t quite what I wanted so I started reading and going to clinics and came up with a good mixture of bits a piece that work good for me and I have never looked back, on average I put a month of ground work on any given colt I start, and you really just get on and continue training after that because they don’t buck and you aren’t going backwards
@@henryhenry903 Exactly! I teach them everything they need to know from the ground before I get on. I use long lines attached to the sides of a halter and ran through the stirrups, tied together under the horse. Obviously, the horse is already accustomed to the saddle. Forward, backward, stops, turns, yielding the front and hind quarters from both sides. Then it depends on the horse. My usual method first time on is to ease up and stand on the stirrup. If horse seems OK with that I will swing my leg over and step down on the off side. May repeat from one side to the other 3-4 times. If the horse is nervous about it, that's all for that day. If not nervous, I will eventually sit in the saddle for a while and let the horse relax. If horse is still relaxed I usually ask for a couple of steps backward, something I have trained extensively from the ground! If the horse handles that OK, I'll ask to move forward. Keep everything low keyed, maybe a few turns both directions! That is usually all I do the first ride. This system has worked well for young horses and one 13 year old and two 15 year old mares that had never been ridden.
great video. but why no saddle pad? it’ll rub her raw. i see all the other videos you use a pad why not this time?
Training and breaking horse
The last thing we want is for a horse to learn to buck .
Sheesh .
The old cowboy way is stupid.
@@gerrycoleman7290 no it’s not
@@ricobustos7883 Let me put it this way..........The old cowboy way works. But it is not in the best interests of the horse. There are better ways.
Probably a lot better then the way you do it 🤣🤣
@@rilynnmcclure4546 : As if you had any clue . Moron .
Half the time if a horse is gonna buck it’s gonna buck look at some of the other videos they do ground work this is just more fun to watch😂😂
If this is what your horse does the first time you get on them, you’ve clearly done something wrong.
Lots wrong I'd say. Poor pony being stuck with ignorant "trainers".
Theses people are just RUDE I feel bad for the terrible treated horse
Every horse does this when being ridden for the first time. They don’t just let you ride em right off the bat.
@@garrettwade3623 That is a very false statement. It's normal for a horse to buck a bit when they're saddled for the first time, but they shouldn't be taking off like a bronco when you sit on them for the first time. I've seen many horses be completely calm when started undersaddle, no bucking at all. Sometimes there's an odd case but thats not due to a lack of prep. There are plenty of videos out there that can prove your statement wrong as well.
@@garrettwade3623 no i have a horse , that horse is being mistreated
Clinton Anderson starting colts has a great method down under horse man ship also John Lyons book round pen reasoning any way we all got to start some where you can be a bronc rider or a horse man Iam to old to be a bronc rider thanks for the video it was entertainment.
I'd rather use a pony horse to start Colts makes work a lot easier and they get it a lot quicker
Amchav 71 its not called a pony horses it's called a pony and I am not mean I swear lol
@@carlosjrodriguez2036 they are specifically talking about ponying horse... its where you ride another horse next to the horse you want to break
@@Latarielle I sorry I thought you where calling the pony a pony horse
SMH I like how these comments make it sounds like they kno what they r doing. Starting colts like this has always been done and still works. Good job y’all n have a good day
You could not be dumber
No saddle pad? Why not make this new and strange experience a bit more comfortable for the horse ?
No stirrups in the beginning? Boys got Velcro on his pants and seat 😂 I’m glad he tightened that cinch though. I saw it roll when he got on and thought for sure he was gonna be under her
Umm.... where is the saddle pad !?!?!?!
Breaking a horse and braking the spirit of a horse are 2 very different things
Yes, they are. That filly will NEVER FORGET SHE WAS SAFE THE ENTIRE TIME.
She didn't know what he was doing or what to do herself, but especially when she fell, he stayed calm, didn't jerk her, and so now she trusts him.
This guy can ride!!
Too rough on the horse! Take your time and make it a good experience for the horse instead of being quick and making the horse have a bad experience
Stfu you probably don't even know how to ride a horse.
Fuck u she's right and in my opinion they shouldn't even have a horse bc of this
@@aamtnfndnfng7749 no you stfu kay is right
@@aamtnfndnfng7749 You definitely need to watch some of Buck Brennaman’s training videos.
as he said in the description, he dont wanna hear no whinin from u city slicker horse trainers
i would suggest following monty roberts horse breaking its about a paternership no force
I just come for the commentary
Me too
Why are you riding without a saddle pad???
Half y’all commenting saying “there’s a better way, I would know” yet you’re starting old horses that were let to sit out in a field for a while. Honest truth is, half y’all wouldn’t have the stones to do what this kid is doing. Nor do y’all know the pretense. Horses can still explode and have some tantrum no matter how much prep you do, you just gotta learn to prepare and ride it out. Not all of us get to ride bomb proof nanny ponies our daddies bought us.
@Madison Castillo and by that you mean? Point is, horses are unpredictable. The process people are seeing and judging is less then 3 minutes long. Starting horses can take up to a year. We don’t know the whole process, and no matter how much preparation and desensitization you do there can be an explosion of natural fear caused by instincts. You cannot train out natural prey behavior. This kid sticks in his saddle, and is persistent. He’s confident and calm. Everyone is different, that’s obvious, but so is every horse. Horses can be ridden for the first time and they act like they’ve been doing it for life, horses who’ve been risen for life can still manage to explode in random situations.
Ok girl no, there is a better way, and it’s not that other people who train horse’s don’t “ have the stones to do it this way” we don’t have the heart to let our horses or ourselves get hurt. Horses can snap their legs like twigs and this is a good way to injure your horse not to mention the man. Yes all horses have temper tantrums and bursts of energy that you have to ride out but this is no way to solve it. We are not in the old days anymore, there are different and better ways of starting a horse, people like this don’t know better, like this, or believe it’s right but it’s not.
@@sinaravelazquez7472 honey, you’re literally solidifying my point. You don’t know the whole story, horses are prey animals. They’ll react to things by panicking if they aren’t familiar no matter the amount of prep you put in before hand. The rider remains calm and sticks in his seat and tries to maintain his weight distribution despite the fit the horse throws. I never said we were in the old days, but these trainers understand horses will react however they end up reacting we just have to ride it out and find a solution as we go.
@@luciaramirez7191 that’s not hat I meant, by the old days I mean people breaking horses. There are safer ways of starting a horse ,for the people but mostly for the horse because if it gets hurt to a point it will be put down. And I understand completely, horses will spook it’s natural and unavoidable and you have to ride it out. I was talking about the starting of the horse not the riding. Starting a horse like this can hurt it before it’s fully trained.
@@sinaravelazquez7472 the horse isn’t being started JUST now. Obviously they’ve undergone haltering, leading, handling, grooming, desensitization etc. you’re assuming their only method is to throw a saddle on and hop on and hope for the best, when it’s pretty obvious that’s far from the truth. Also, I never said anything about this being the only method of starting horses. So like I said before, you can prep as much as you want, it’s healthy that you do, however a horse is still an animal. They will react to unfamiliar situations and conditions, no matter the preparation. We just have to learn to handle it and work through it and hopefully get to an extent of managing that behavior and teaching horses to react with care and attempt to understand the situation rather then freak out. This is not the only starting this horse has been through, obviously. How you can’t see that, I’m not quite sure but I suggest you think a little harder instead of assuming this is the only training young horses are brought into.
That is one good looking filly and he rode her well!
Nobody recognized that the young man holding the horse took an ear ?
Beginners , all if you .
@Dillon : Well ... to twist an ear is a " Distraction " .
So is using a twitch , lip chain , to hold a skin fold on one's neck , to put a finger in one's eye ... You are not talking to a rookie .
@Dillon : My IGNORANT friend ... one doesn't merely " hold " the ear .
One TWISTS it and the harder you twist an ear , the better it's effect .
IF you had any education AT ALL about equines and the means of " restraint " , you would know this so go bot yourself up your bum .
P.S. I'd bet that you've no idea what a " Bot fly " is ...
Google it .
@Dillon : A hahaha ha !
Beginner . Rookie . Moron .
You've never eared one before , have you ?
Keep talking . I love the hole that you're digging for yourself !
This is ridiculous in this day and age. Y'all are pathetic. Watch some Mustang training videos or Pat Parelli.
This horse will not respect any of you.
You could have really hurt that horse running it into the fence.
No horsemanship here.
What in the wide wide world of goobers is going on here?
They’re breaking in a fresh colt that’s never been ridden before
The old cowboy way of 'breaking' a horse. Of course, it is stupid and bad for the horse.
I used to break horses like that until i learned a more sophisticated way of doing it.
Ronnie Pitchford the other way how they do it now and day its to try and get the rope around the horse's foot and try to make it bow and get it to trust the person
@@bigmannjunior5865 what in the hell kind of garbage is that? That's old style, forcing a horse to do things. The proper way to start a horse, in my opinion and from experience, is bareback. Don't even introduce a saddle until that horse is moving off your cues bareback. Introduce the saddle when you're ready to advance from a walk, 9 times out of 10, the feeling of a saddle is what makes them buck, not your weight. I've trained a handful of horses and starting this way they never buck with me unless something startles them. You have to build up from ground level, trust is a two way street.
Big MannJunior are u stupid.?
Why is there no saddle pad
What in the methanphetimine is going on here. This isnt colt starting. Come on, have some more pride in what you do.
And yes, I have trained my own animals. There is a better way
@Bailey Shiver that was literate. And nah, real cowboys know how to do it better, can tell you that much. Keep your Texas Walmart training to yourself
@Milla Kjølset-Følgesvold you always have to put down that first ride, but there is a foundation below that. Groundwork, actual horsemandhip. Not just hopping on and yeehaw. That's not how you train a horse to last. You can do that walmart trainer bullshit if you want but tell me how good your animal you have after that and tell me how long before you're spitting the excuse you had to sell it at auction to a meat buyer because you wanted the quick way, not the right way. Maybe not you persay, but think of someone as an example. Like the asshole who responded to me first. That guy, is a dumbass hick.
Legit love this comment because of the truth. It doesn’t just happen. You have the do ground work and desensitization and so much more
I like how everyone in the comments think they know everything about breaking colts 🙄😂
some of them DO know.
watchgoose no crap but do you really think everyone on here knows how. No.
River Williams eh I don’t know
There is a better way.
Your pry some city kid
@@paytonthomas1689 Far from it. I can also spell.
Shut up I'm on the ranch every day and starting colts and riding bulls and punching fools.
@@paytonthomas1689 HaHaHa, if that's the case your a slow learner.
Shut the hell up bitch
I love your voice. I could listen to it forever
This video just makes me sad. Crazy how some people just don't train ground work enough. You should get on and get off, and repeat. This makes me so angry that after she\he was standing still but not going crazy, you hit her with a rope to try and "buck her out" instead of patting her and using positive reinforcement. People these days.
We need the strawberry roan song in the background!
This is a correct way to break a horse. There are different ways and methods, everyone will go about it there own way. But this is the preferred method, put it out there and get it done.
That's not how it's done rookies
Tracey Williams they are doing it they way they want to do quit bad talking them you probably couldn’t ride a bronc you Just a keyboard warrior
Tracey Williams is right. The Missipi Cowboy, Don't educate people when you have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to riding a rocking horse.
Loïs Keeken they want to do the old way let them don’t be jackass about it
@@themississippicowboy1576 Well, you started the convo, i just spoke my mind.
@@themississippicowboy1576 This is absolutely not how you do it. This is shit riding. Grabbing onto the nose as he mounts? As soon as the horse moves pull back hard on the thin rope around the horses nose? The old way is called the old way because it's old and outdated.
We have moved on and have the education to know there are MUCH better ways. If he were to take a month or two working with this horse this bucking episode would of never happened. Train your horse properly
Please don´t ride like this. That´s old school. The horse is scared, does not know what to do. The only thing a horse can do, is to buck. If you start slow, teach him ground work, how to go left and right, how to communicate, how to wear a saddle and a bridle, it will trust you. This is the wrong way to start a horse. The horse can hurt you and it can hurt himself. I feel sorry for this horse, because human can be so stupid and think, yeah, it´s great to break a bucking horse. No it isn´t. It shows that those people never have learned from the past.
The most beautiful filly I have seen
Nice Job! RODEO RANCH TV
The camera mans knowledge is amazing.😅😅😅😅 He's voice though
Felicidades buen vaquero al aferrarse al potro
Real kabois right there folks
Is the horse at least 4 years old?
She looks pretty young...
There are a few things wrong i see with this. But sports? Also, i like the no bit. I've seen worse tho, so no hate
the only reason they don't have a bit is because when your breaking a colt or a filly they don't use bits at the beginning because the horse is either just learning about the halter or the horse is green broke. but I promise the bit wont hurt the horse. no worries
How old was he when you got on his back?
No saddle pad?
Old style spirit breaking. Hook up first, you'll get better results. 🦓
I train the new school way and I always will but I've ridden plenty of great horses that were twitched with a bag over their head to start. It's not a pleasant experience for the horse and I would rather hook up with one and hopefully they never buck but there are a lot of good horses out there started the old school way.
Faster results, never better results.
Spirit breaking? We must be watching 2 different videos....
Thresher Parr one movie one video lol
Jake kinda scare not moving the horse with his rein but basically just sitting on the colt probably in his mindset he's thinking "please don't buck, please don't buck" over and over ....
I took my like I put on this video 3 years ago off. You now no longer have 6.4K likes but only 6.3K.
She just needs a case of "Spur-Brisbia"!
Read the description and DAMN! give it to 'em straight!!!
That's absolutely horrible! Didn't even have a saddle pad! That is abuse that poor filly is probably gonna be messed up forever!😤😑
Yes it is
Blew my damn stirrups dad. 😀
That colt looks too small for him to ride
You right
No, quarter horses are just smaller. I have a quarter horse whose 8 and as long as his legs fit in the stirrups and the horse isnt physically struggling then it's fine. I'm a vet and hes right about the weight limit for this horse.
"No whining on film" 🤣 "don't whine im tryna film"
Shouldve taught him to move out on the ground. And got off when he was standing still.
I dont know why you gotta bounce all over him and slam onto his back if you were a good rider
I hope y'all are handling your horses this way because you have so many that you cant afford to spare the time to train them thoroughly and can only green break em. At the same time it may be best for you not to handle em at all considering a horse trained the wrong way is worse than a horse not trained at all.
You shouldn't even be slapping it anyway
You mean pat??
Nothing wrong in bucking a colt off, but if you're stating a horse already with spurs on it will need a whole star fish by the end.
For a sec I thought that was a foal lol
Lol why do they WANT it to buck? What are they trying to do? Are they trying to train it to be a rodeo bronc or what? I genuinely dont understand the goal or desired outcome.
Lmao!!! But what do I know ... only broke but a few handful!!!!! Goodluck men!!
All it takes is the first ride and then.... Miles!!!!
Not hating because I know that’s what you guys are gonna say but there is so many good horseman out there go to a clinic or two before putting out a video
What age is the horse?
The guy recording sounds like that squidbilly feller on adult swim.
Wow i can't believe you trying little horse like that am going to call the police what did the horse ever do to you
Its so good too see ppl not use bits on horses...omg ♥️
That fucking dog. Everyones gotta have a fucking dog when they do this shit.
Never whooop a horse like that
Why don’t you not have a saddle pad
Raleigh Link 14 would be disgusted..
But I'm not gonna judge your riding.
0:41 when she stops, that when you pat her, rub her neck and tell her she's a "good girl" you don't just sit there and wait for her to buck again. you could even get off and give her some treats because she did so well for her first time ridden and calmed down after less than a minute.
Agree he even started trying to get her to go again
Yeah, I'm a city slicker wanna be trainer. Ha. You have not prepared this horse on the ground. She doesn't understand what you're asking her to do. She needs patience and your wisdom, both of which seem to be in short supply.
Next time please try use a saddle pad. It will be more comfortable for the horse and they will get used to it faster because it wont hurt them as much (no hate just for the horse and the riders safetey)
Stand in the middle of the to get the colt to move off
What happened to saddle pads
Get off my You tube :
The saddle pad ... they probably give it to the poor dogs who sleep in the stable .
The horse is no friend and more than likely , neither are their working dogs .
Just Machinery things .
Sooo ... what of their women ??????
what a heck of a buck how did u manage her
For good trainers, colt starting isnt like this. You do things so slowly, when my trainer gets on her young horses, they only buck once small at the most. This means they didn't put enough effort into slowly starting them up.
We have advanced beyond the old cowboy way of breaking...............did you miss the memo?
bravo power
What kinda halter are they using there? Curious cause I got one to start and was thinking of trying something different than my bosal setup
Disgusting! If you have to twitch a horse's ear and pinch her nose to get on...the poor horse aint ready to get on!!!! Haven't we moved pass the medieval way of training horses by now!
I started my stallion and he never bucked once when I started him, because I took "his" time!!
This is actually age to start the horse. I have a horse that I broke and she was fairly short for her age compared to my others. And getting on fast is actually better for a horse it teaches them that they’re gonna have to do this and it’s not gonna hurt them. My horse freaked out when I would put a saddle blanket on without her smelling it or anything. After a couple tries she got over it and I let her smell it and within 2 days of doing this I was able to get on. And why do you have to say this they’re are a lot of ways people break horses. Look at the outcome of their horses. They are fine so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it😂
I’ll tell y’all, every time I see this, I can’t help but think how many times before this scene has been performed over the centuries. I hope it continues…Cowgirls and Cowboys forever‼️
you need a saddle pad
U need Clint Anderson The Method. This is painful to watch
And he doesn’t even have a saddle pad the horse might’ve got a saddle sore and I break horses by step by step
@@phillipsegovia218 it takes a lot of time and knowledge as u know to start a horse. I don’t even know if this video was for real or just a joke but sad for the horse 🤦♀️
Where u get them halters?
You are mean to your horses
🤦
When she said get your sturups that made me mad bc ik how hard it is to get them mid ride
Good work cowboy
She didn’t want to move because every time she moved, he pulled her face off.
This breaks my heart a 300 pound human riding a foal you shouldn’t be riding a foal it makes the horse have bad experience and have trust issues and be scared of you
Saw this on TikTok
Cowboys my ass a true cowboy starts a colt an doesn't let it buck good job dime store ..
Bull crap . Ground work can sometimes keep them from bucking but not always
Idk how many true cowboys you have been around lol
just saying my opion i don't think that you should do that work slowly and kindly. please