Just like you. I went straight to Win2K on its release for stability and to avoid monthly Win98 installs due to monthly memory leaks. The only issue I encountered was the UMAX scanner I was using did not release Win2k driver until a year later from the release. I have seen some retro gamers build dual boot Win98/SE Win XP just to maintain game compatibility.
Hey there. Yeah, I used 2k for a while. Bought my laptop and had ME on it, and I wipped it, lol. Worked on 2k, and it networks too for years. I was working on a dual boot 98se and xp build. I was trying for a 4x or 3x boot build, but that video had hickups and hasn't seen the light of day yet, lol. I got too ambitious. Good memories, aye! Skol!
Excellent video I do feel bad for Windows 2000. It came out at an awkward time. Many people were still on NT 4 or 98, then Windows XP came out 1 year later and most people just moved on to XP. I feel like 2000 never had a chance
MS literally killed "2000". But that was an experiment, more like a step towards NT for the masses. I personally was running NT4 at the time as workstation and upgraded to Win 2000 when it came out. NT4 didn't support USB, but 2000 was basically NT4, modernized, with USB support. It was a winner. I never went to XP. I went from 2000 to 2003 - 2003 was a server version, but it was "popular" back then to install and configure it as a workstation OS, and it worked very well.
@joseoncrack Hi there. Some even referred to it as NT5. I never ran 2003 as a workstation but worked on 2003 server for many years at my job. I played some games, so I grabbed xp a bit after it came out. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it :)
@@RememberThisTech And they are right. Windows 2000 was going to be released as NT 5 - they changed the name at the last moment before shipping. I had access to beta versions at the time through MSDN, and they were all named Windows NT 5. All subsequent versions (XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, 11 and the server versions) have been successors to Win 2000 and all based on the NT kernel.
I went to Win2k when it came out and it was a bear to get to work with games in the early days. It took quite a while for stable video drivers to come out and I was constantly fighting BSODs trying to play games. Once good drivers came, it was definitely one of the best OSes of the day especially for its more robust networking and security.
Switched from my thrusty 440BX System to a KT133 system in 2000 and had big problems to make Windows 98 run stable. It booted only on every second try (later found out that was an incompatibility with the USB controller on the mainboard) and was running not very stable in general. Was desperate at some point of time and decided to give Windows 2000 a try. A difference like day and night. Everything was working as it should right after installing the chipset drivers, it was also running much more stable. Used it for some years until I switched to Windows XP sometime around 2004. :)
Hi, and welcome to the channel! Yup, I remember having to rebuild 98 every couple of months it's was ok but ohh those kt 133 systems hated it :( ohh the memories lol. 2k was pretty nice. I too swapped to win xp pro when I got my first retail license where I was going to college. Used that for 10 years or more on various systems. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it :)
I find all of my PC CD/DVD games like DethKarz, SEGA Rally Championship, and Sonic R work fine on Windows 10. Haven't tried Windows 11 yet, but if it's as "the same as" 10 as people say it is then it shouldn't be a problem. Still looking to build my own Windows XP machine at some point though, I just like how simple the older OS is compared to modern ones.
Closest I own now is a Windows 98 boot CD, with I think 2/3 installs left on it. I remember it having a limited number of uses, but the box is somewhere else so only have the CD to go by.
HI, and welcome to the channel. Xp with service pack 3 would be best for retro gaming. No security updates, but you can play all your old cds and some AV work on xp still. Probly won't get any newer steam games working, though. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it! Good luck building your retro gaming machines:)
If you're using an SSD, partition it on Windows 10 or 11, so that the partitions are 4k aligned, otherwise the performance will be lower and write amplification will significantly increase wear.
I Still Love Win2k Pro/Server When I got the First IT in 2k3 Job few years after H.S., WinXp wasnt the eXperience m$ was Hoping For.: DirectX 9c & SP2 made xP a Beast. We Would Downgrade All Systems, Desktop, Field Laptop, CAD/CAM Machine & All Servers, were Win2k Pro & Advanced Server SP4. It was Crazy Fast, Stable as Hell, Ran all the Same Games as WinXp with Less Overhead.
As amazing as 2000 was for the time (and it was indeed utterly amazing)... I just never saw a point to running it over Windows XP. Yeah, 2000 is somewhat lighter on the resources, but XP already runs soooo damn light that if you were really that strapped for resources where running 2000 would actually make a significant difference, then there probably isn't much at all you can do with that PC in the first place anyway. Windows 98 SE would be a much better choice for that kind of incredibly old low-spec machine.
Hey there. Your pretty much apot on with everything you mentioned for sure! I ran it untill I got my first retail XP license then that was my main daily for 8 to 9 years :) Cheers!
How dare you mention ME. That was NOT an install option 😜. I went from 98 to 2k to XP. I had some good times with 2k. Aye, the good old days. RIP ATI. I bet if ATI had lived on, they would be stepping on Nvidia's toes with a sledgehammer.
Hello Jason, I went from Windows 98 SE., to XP, so I have never used Windows 2000 or ME., I had heard that Windows 2000 was the more stable of those two OS., were you able to activate Windows 2000? Recently, after I installed XP on an old laptop I found that the only way to activate it was over the phone and what a hassle that is and I ran out of patience. I have heard that if XP is not activated then it stops working after 30 days, is that actually the case? I still have software from the XP era, so that was why I attempted to create a retro computer.
Hey Laurence. It never prompted me for activation for my build of win 2k. I entered my win2k key and that was it.I did have that problem with xp, and I had a workaround. Send me an email and I'll give more info ! Skol!
Neither Windows 2000 nor Windows 98SE required activation. Simply put in a product key and you are good to go. Windows XP was the first Microsoft OS to require activation (for the general public).
That's true for 2K out-of-the-box, but as long as you install your chipset driver, and your chipset supports 8x, you should be able to use the full bandwidth.
Win2K was the first Windows that does not suck ass and what did not blue screen just because you looked at it. Anything before it was terrible amateurish . especially NT4
I went from 98se to 2k myself. I didnt transition to xp until sp2 had been out for quite some time. I love & miss 2k.
Same! But I used zp since first release for 8 year +
Just like you. I went straight to Win2K on its release for stability and to avoid monthly Win98 installs due to monthly memory leaks. The only issue I encountered was the UMAX scanner I was using did not release Win2k driver until a year later from the release. I have seen some retro gamers build dual boot Win98/SE Win XP just to maintain game compatibility.
Hey there. Yeah, I used 2k for a while. Bought my laptop and had ME on it, and I wipped it, lol. Worked on 2k, and it networks too for years. I was working on a dual boot 98se and xp build. I was trying for a 4x or 3x boot build, but that video had hickups and hasn't seen the light of day yet, lol. I got too ambitious. Good memories, aye! Skol!
Excellent video
I do feel bad for Windows 2000. It came out at an awkward time. Many people were still on NT 4 or 98, then Windows XP came out 1 year later and most people just moved on to XP. I feel like 2000 never had a chance
Hi there and tyvm! Yeah your spot on! Once xp came out it was the goto os for so many for like a decade. Most people would be like what's win 2k?
MS literally killed "2000". But that was an experiment, more like a step towards NT for the masses. I personally was running NT4 at the time as workstation and upgraded to Win 2000 when it came out. NT4 didn't support USB, but 2000 was basically NT4, modernized, with USB support. It was a winner. I never went to XP. I went from 2000 to 2003 - 2003 was a server version, but it was "popular" back then to install and configure it as a workstation OS, and it worked very well.
@joseoncrack Hi there. Some even referred to it as NT5. I never ran 2003 as a workstation but worked on 2003 server for many years at my job. I played some games, so I grabbed xp a bit after it came out. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it :)
@@RememberThisTech And they are right. Windows 2000 was going to be released as NT 5 - they changed the name at the last moment before shipping. I had access to beta versions at the time through MSDN, and they were all named Windows NT 5.
All subsequent versions (XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, 11 and the server versions) have been successors to Win 2000 and all based on the NT kernel.
Ahh great info tyvm !
I used Win 2k to run a BF2 server. It ran BF2 and Halo beautifully.
Oh how many hours of bf2 did I play wow! Brings back so many fond memories!!
I went to Win2k when it came out and it was a bear to get to work with games in the early days. It took quite a while for stable video drivers to come out and I was constantly fighting BSODs trying to play games. Once good drivers came, it was definitely one of the best OSes of the day especially for its more robust networking and security.
Hey there. Yup after a few service packs it sure stable. Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it :)
Switched from my thrusty 440BX System to a KT133 system in 2000 and had big problems to make Windows 98 run stable. It booted only on every second try (later found out that was an incompatibility with the USB controller on the mainboard) and was running not very stable in general. Was desperate at some point of time and decided to give Windows 2000 a try. A difference like day and night. Everything was working as it should right after installing the chipset drivers, it was also running much more stable. Used it for some years until I switched to Windows XP sometime around 2004. :)
Hi, and welcome to the channel! Yup, I remember having to rebuild 98 every couple of months it's was ok but ohh those kt 133 systems hated it :( ohh the memories lol. 2k was pretty nice. I too swapped to win xp pro when I got my first retail license where I was going to college. Used that for 10 years or more on various systems. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it :)
I find all of my PC CD/DVD games like DethKarz, SEGA Rally Championship, and Sonic R work fine on Windows 10.
Haven't tried Windows 11 yet, but if it's as "the same as" 10 as people say it is then it shouldn't be a problem.
Still looking to build my own Windows XP machine at some point though, I just like how simple the older OS is compared to modern ones.
Closest I own now is a Windows 98 boot CD, with I think 2/3 installs left on it.
I remember it having a limited number of uses, but the box is somewhere else so only have the CD to go by.
HI, and welcome to the channel. Xp with service pack 3 would be best for retro gaming. No security updates, but you can play all your old cds and some AV work on xp still. Probly won't get any newer steam games working, though. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it! Good luck building your retro gaming machines:)
@BlueEyedVibeChecker I belive you can find win 98se keys online pretty easy. Give it a google
If you're using an SSD, partition it on Windows 10 or 11, so that the partitions are 4k aligned, otherwise the performance will be lower and write amplification will significantly increase wear.
Hi there. Great tip! I remember 2k and xp you also had to not Defrag while using xp 2k. Due to no trim support.
@@RememberThisTech as far as I recall there's not much benefit to defragmenting SSDs anyway since they don't have to seek like a spinning HDD.
Most decent ssds have trim features. Or garbe collection. With newer os working with it.
Plus it's my aliexpress sata ssd so it will probably die sooner or later lol
I Still Love Win2k Pro/Server
When I got the First IT in 2k3 Job few years after H.S., WinXp wasnt the eXperience m$ was Hoping For.: DirectX 9c & SP2 made xP a Beast.
We Would Downgrade All Systems, Desktop, Field Laptop, CAD/CAM Machine & All Servers, were Win2k Pro & Advanced Server SP4.
It was Crazy Fast, Stable as Hell, Ran all the Same Games as WinXp with Less Overhead.
Hey there! Yeah win 2k pro was rock solid and with sp4 it gave it even more. Also your spot on with XP. I used it for sooo long! Cheers!
As amazing as 2000 was for the time (and it was indeed utterly amazing)... I just never saw a point to running it over Windows XP. Yeah, 2000 is somewhat lighter on the resources, but XP already runs soooo damn light that if you were really that strapped for resources where running 2000 would actually make a significant difference, then there probably isn't much at all you can do with that PC in the first place anyway. Windows 98 SE would be a much better choice for that kind of incredibly old low-spec machine.
Hey there. Your pretty much apot on with everything you mentioned for sure! I ran it untill I got my first retail XP license then that was my main daily for 8 to 9 years :) Cheers!
How dare you mention ME. That was NOT an install option 😜. I went from 98 to 2k to XP. I had some good times with 2k. Aye, the good old days. RIP ATI. I bet if ATI had lived on, they would be stepping on Nvidia's toes with a sledgehammer.
@itstheMR win2k with sp4 = rock solid. Soon as XP came out I grabbed a copy and used it forever!
Hello Jason, I went from Windows 98 SE., to XP, so I have never used Windows 2000 or ME., I had heard that Windows 2000 was the more stable of those two OS., were you able to activate Windows 2000?
Recently, after I installed XP on an old laptop I found that the only way to activate it was over the phone and what a hassle that is and I ran out of patience.
I have heard that if XP is not activated then it stops working after 30 days, is that actually the case?
I still have software from the XP era, so that was why I attempted to create a retro computer.
Hey Laurence. It never prompted me for activation for my build of win 2k. I entered my win2k key and that was it.I did have that problem with xp, and I had a workaround. Send me an email and I'll give more info ! Skol!
@@RememberThisTech Hello Jason, that was handy and is it the same for Windows 98 SE,? I have sent an e-mail, skol!
Neither Windows 2000 nor Windows 98SE required activation. Simply put in a product key and you are good to go. Windows XP was the first Microsoft OS to require activation (for the general public).
@@ShinyHelmet Thanks for the information!👍👍
Windows XP also had proper support for Hyperthreading on the Pentium 4 chips, which Windows 2000 didn't.
Hey there! Ahh good info tyvm! I just figured to do this quick win2k test build. Working ok but XP is my goto. Cheers!
Win2K lacks AGP 8x support (4x is the max). This was the only reason I upgraded to XP.
Hi there. Yeah it wasn't up on the latest and greatest but man was it rock solid!
That's true for 2K out-of-the-box, but as long as you install your chipset driver, and your chipset supports 8x, you should be able to use the full bandwidth.
@Skunkbert93 Hi there ! Ahh great info! I did install them and worked good. Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it!
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Shrug good question. Idk I think he pays for a ton of adverts and has millions of $$ :(
Win2K was the first Windows that does not suck ass and what did not blue screen just because you looked at it. Anything before it was terrible amateurish . especially NT4
Hi there! Plus, NT 4 was pretty cumbersome. 2k, though, was solid!