Changing puppet Yoda in Phantom Menace to CGI Yoda was a good change in my opinion. Puppet Yoda looked fine in the original trilogy, but in Phantom Menace he just looked weird.
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx I think I've heard that it's something to do with the lighting, the original puppet Yoda was only ever featured on Dagobah which was generally shadowy and dark. In the phantom menace the environment was much more bright and showed the limitations of the puppetry far more clearly. As for the last jedi though, no idea xD
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx I think Heorge was going for a younger look. Would be weird if that were the case. You would think 50 odd years wouldn't make too much of a difference for Yoda.
Luke Huizenga they used the exact same puppet for TLJ from Empire. The reason why it’s look like it’s aged is because... well, the thing was made in 1980
Adding Tatooine to the celebration at the end doesn’t really make that much sense to me. It seems to me that the inhabitants of Tatooine were relatively unfazed by the presence of the empire.
George Scott pretty sure Luke did know about the empire, otherwise it wouldn’t make sense for him to tell Obi Wan “it’s not that I like the empire, I hate it, but I’ve got work to do right now...”. But even that is an indication of how little the empire figures in his mind.
@LavaDuck Which was in the middle of the Dune Sea where moisture farmers and Tusken Raiders are the only inhabitants (Jawa's don't count. They technically live on the move most of the time, only stopping to make deals with the other locals or any shipments coming from other parts of the galaxy). Most people wouldn't hear about that sort of thing unless a trooper from that squad let slip about what happened.
Chewie didn’t want a medal as he didn’t want to be different from the other Wookiee’s. In Wookiee culture only they chief is aloud to wear gold so it also goes against his beliefs
I'm glad that Lucas replaced the English text used on sets and props in Episode IV with the Aurebesh text from the rest of the Star Wars canon. Why wasn't that on the list?
My only issue with that is that is raises the question "Why the hell do they call it an X-Wing?" when there's not a single letter in Aurebesh that looks like an X. There's also nothing that looks like an A or a B, and the letter that looks like a Y is 'V.'
We also have the Lambda and Upsilon shuttles, along with Delta squadron, Zeta squadron, and more. From which planet a long time ago in a galaxy far far away does the Greek script originate?
Fun Fact: The Emperor in Empire was played by three actors; Marjorie Eaton played the body, Clive Revill provided the voice and the superimposed eyes were provided by a chimpanzee. So 'he' was played by a man, a woman and a primate. Which, coincidentally, is the name of my sex tape.
@@snowcatxx87 I just checked the credits on IMDB for Empire Strikes back and Marjorie Eaton is only one credited for playing the Emperor in the original version.
not huge into adding cgi just for the hell of it, but switching out yoda in episode one with cgi was a good call. That puppet (not the one for the original trilogy) was the stuff of nightmares
The original puppet didn't stand the test of time, so they had a new one made, that just happen to suck. With the new one, they tried to make him look a bit younger. CGI did it better.
Even Frank Oz wanted Yoda in episode one to be CGI. Granted, that was also because it had been a physical nightmare to do Yoda on the swamp world set of Empire, and Oz was now twenty years older for Ep One's shooting and not looking forward to living under a sound stage again for weeks.
He isn't that creepy, but yeah I CGI looks better ! Thehe, If you guys find the puppet creepy then try to watch meanwhile the Spongebob close theme is playing ;).
Possible unpopular opinion: To be perfectly honest, I actually really like Hayden Christensen as Anakin. True, there were definitely dialogue issues and the direction he was given was very questionable, but that is the fault of the writers and director, not Hayden himself. Hayden actually knew the character of Anakin spectacularly well as he and George Lucas actually sat down and had an extensive talk about it, and he did as well as he could with the material and direction he was given.
Hayden did an amazing job. His performance portrayed the inner struggle Anakin was having, like you said, exactly like George had wanted him to. He even tried to speak in a way in line with the way Vader did.
The prequel trilogy are fantastic in every way except for the writing. They are all incredible actors and George Lucas is a great movie maker. The problem is that Lucas is a terrible writer which was one of the few problems they had. Most of the lines are rather bland which really brought the prequels down
Yes on that! I actually was watching SW: IV once and right at that scene I switched over to TH-cam and played that scene and started up IV where I left off. It was perfect
The extra ships added to the battle scenes are a definite plus point. The original version always felt like there was a handful of x-wings rather than a full on rebel assault.
Darth Vader (to himself in a mirror with his helmet off): "Yeah, that day on Mustafar was awful. I miss my hair, but at least I still have my eyebrows. I think I'll comb them."
What's interesting is that Lucas didn't think of dialogue as its own thing. He thought of dialogue as part of the soundtrack. In an interview with Alec Guinness during the time of the original trilogy, he states that Lucas' original script for the original Star Wars had extremely clunky and awkward dialogue, which he asked if some of it could be altered or changed. I guess he's never had a way with dialogue, but he believes that the emotion should be expressed by line delivery, the soundtrack, and body language, rather than the words themselves. Alec Guinness is also commonly referred to by fans as "hating Star Wars," but in this same interview I saw, he addressed this exact thing. He said that he wasn't a fan of sci-fi movies or books, but once he read Lucas' script, he couldn't stop reading it and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think people misjudged him calling Star Wars "goofy."
I guess many people don't like to think of Star Wars as goofy. Unfortunately there are multiple goofy scenes and lines within the OT. Lines like: "Get in there ya big oaf! I don't care what you smell!", or scenes such as Chewbacca repairing C-3PO and putting his head on backwards and Threepio complaining loudly about it. Or, and this one really takes the cake for me: Luke Skywalker telling his Protocol droid to make the Ewoks release him and the other rebels or Threepio will, and I quote, "Unleash your terrible powers upon them."
Han straight up killing Greedo defines his character. He is a smuggler, not a hero. That he later becomes a hero (returning to help Luke) shows his growth as a character from self-interest to seeing a bigger picture. Take that away and the scene has no gravity.
He was evil hungry. There are different stages of hungry. Evil hungry is the worst. You know how it is. You eat a Wampa and an hour later you think, "Man, Wampas are like Chinese food. I'm as hungry as I was an hour ago. I am so evil hungry."
@@ralfred2009 I mean this is where it gets a little bit more complicated because we can't say for sure but maybe both versions could essentially work but the one that appeals to more people is going to be the most loved one and I think that is what the old cut does so well and I could discuss it more but it would be really long so I will only do so if you would like to read it.
Hayden Christiansen as Anakin's force ghost made perfect sense to me, I don't care how much heat I get, after the prequals, it made sense for Anakin to go back to who he was last time he was good......bite me haters 😝
Here's the thing. Spirit's look doesn't entirely depend on the physical looks one had in the end, because if it was the case Anakin should've been limbless, bald and scarred. The idea was that Anakin's spirit was gone in Ep.3, replaced or "killed" by Vader as Obi-Wan said. So when Anakin came back, he (his spirit in particular) looked like he did when he was "killed" in Ep.3, and didn't age in those 5-10 minutes he lived after killing Sidious.
Urgh. I hate-hate-HATE the stupid musical number in Jabba's palace. The whole scene is just distracting because I know, even if Lucas has made it nearly impossible for me to get my hands on the movies I watched when I was a kid, that the chick being dragged into the rancor pit was far more interesting and useful for establishing Jabba's character. We don't need to know he's got a cool band. We need to know he's a gross slug who is perfectly happy and entertained by casually murdering anyone that displeases him.
***** Well I never had that version as a kid, I'm only 19. This was my first and only version so I've only ever seen this one. I've seen clips and pictures of the original but it would be interesting to see the original all the way through.
Darthpepo Hm, strange I'll admit. Being under 20, I really don't mind most of the changes because they were in the first version I watched. But Jedi Rocks I couldn't help but cringe at, even as a kid. It's the only change which I completely hate.
Yeah, the old version of "Old Anakin" looks nothing like Anakin and doesn't look suited to his role as "great pilot" or, if we go back to the prequels (or does it mention this bit in the originals?), the Champion of the Republic. He just looks like somone's dad....... OH, WAIT!
Eh, I like having the older Anakin played by Sebastian Shaw. The reason why Lucas switched him out with Hayden was because he though that was the last time Anakin was good. I don't think so. I think the last time Anakin was good was when he sacrificed his life by hauling the Emperor's ass down that shaft to save his son. If his ghost is supposed to look like the age he was the last time he was good, you'd think it would be the older Anakin, wouldn't you? I also like the older Anakin showing up because it makes you use your brain a bit more. I remember seeing ROTJ for the first time, and when this older dude just shows up, I thought to myself, "Who's that guy.....OH MY GOD, THAT'S VADER!!" That has so much more of an impact than, "Oh, sup Hayden."
GamesPerJustin I know what you're saying, but there are issues with that too. While I agree that an older looking Anakin would have been better, the fact that Shaw looks nothing like Hayden ruins it for me, especially because of how well Ewan Mcgregor matched up to Alec Guinness. Also, because of the lack of resemblance, I think that it isn't actually clear enough that the third ghost is Anakin. When I first saw ROtJ, my parents had to explain who he was before I got it, which ruined the moment entirely. Actually, this was before the prequels, so I don't suppose it would have made much of a difference to that anyway.... So, yes to the older look, no to the (lack of) resemblance to Hayden.
ok it wasn't the original trilogy, but they replace that ridiculous looking younger Yoda in Phantom Menace with the CGI Yoda from the later prequels for the bluray/ 3D rerelease. I know that's replacing Jim Henson's work with more CGI which any other time would be just wrong but damn it was a improvement.
Charlie Hadley no way! The puppet yoda was horrible and l think they should have changed the OT yoda too because the puppet yoda really looked like shit
Charlie Hadley no way! The puppet yoda was horrible and l think they should have changed the OT yoda too because the puppet yoda really looked like shit
Except it doesn't really make sense for Luke. He doesn't know that is what his father used to look like Bru he knew what he looked like when he took the helmet off. It's fun for the audience but it doesn't make any sense in the context
@@logantotman Well the person who Luke saw was Darth Vader, someone who was mostly turned to the dark side. So, in that context, the force would show someone who’s all good, putting darth vader to his original good self, which Annikan before he turned.
Mike M I'm not saying your wrong but surely the last time anikin was good and at one with the force was at the end of return of the Jedi when he redeemed himself. But whatever floats your boat
If I were to be honest I did infact like how they use Hayden Christenson Force Ghost instead of the Actor who played Darth Vader with his helmet off. Even tho I hated the prequels I did love how it tied it all together
My only issue with that; why does Anakin revert to a younger version of himself, while Obi and Yoda maintain their old version as force ghosts? I do love the continuity of using Hayden, though!
Sean Murphy I always thought that since Anakin obi-wan and Yoda are dead then they assume the form that they view them self in. And because Anakin viewed himself as Anakin and not Vader then his force ghost was the ghost of his younger self, and obiwan and Yoda view themself as how they looked right before death.
When I was 8 and I saw ROTJ in the theater I wondered who the old guy beside Obiwan was. He didn't look like the bald Vader so I didn't make the connection. This change made sense to me.
Sean Murphy I think it’s because when Anakin died he was Vader....the force ghost is the good, so it reverted Vader back to Anakin before he became vader
One of the pre-Disney Star Wars novels mentions how the Coruscant celebrations were quickly squashed by stormtroopers (which makes a lot of sense, considering that it was the Imperial throneworld and an entire galaxy-spanning empire wouldn't collapse overnight).
if you really think about it at the end of Return of the Jedi the empire was severely crippled the leadership was destroyed but the Empire itself is still there
anakins force ghost made 0 sense before hand. how tf was i suposed to know what anakin looks like? it was just some random dude to me. ik its the same guy who played as unmasked vader but he looks completely diffrent.
I wouldn't mind any of the changes... if they'd also release the god damn original unaltered trilogy. Jesus, you can make an edited version without trying to erase the original from existence.
They did actually do a release in the early 2000s on DVD that contained both the Special Editions and the original Theatrical Versions. I know because I own it. I knew when it came out it would be a once-in-a-lifetime thing and I got all three.
Jason holy shit you are right, it's 3am and I just fucking woke up and looked at my DVD archive because I knew I had all 6 movies in DVDs and what do you know, the OT DVDs have the theatrical versions and I never knew (kinda forgot about them tbh lol) THANK YOU. I was starting to think I would never be able to watch those versions ever
Guitarman5200 If I’m remembering right, there are still some issues with those versions too. I don’t have them handy to check. I really would just like the version that was on the VHS OT with the stormtrooper, Vader & Yoda on the covers. I think there’s enough room for a high quality DVD or Blu-ray version of the OT and OT SE...one for history and one as George’s definite version. Then let fans figure out which version we like best. I have copies of the first VHS releases of the OT, and video & sound quality really is quite amazing played on a basic VHS player hooked up to a new Samsung smart tv.
Guess I'm so used to the changes that I forgot how some of these things they looked before. Like the cardboard cutouts or cloud city not having windows.
Same. I can only tell something was added/changed when it's blatantly CGI. TBH i was only 7 when the new versions came out, i'm not even sure if i've ever seen the originals.
Boba was like 10-12 in episode 2, which would put him in his late 30s in episode 6, which is probably younger than Jango in episode 2. That argument doesn't work
Uncle Bo$$ I think people are stupid if they think that changing his voice was dumb. It would be inconsistent continuity if they didn't make his voice the same as Jango's. He's a clone, so he should have his voice. Why do people not like this change?
Actually, one of my favorite changes was when the Millennium Falcon takes off from Tatooine. In the original it just shows a storm trooper looking up at it from the ground as it slowly flies away, in the SE it shows a close up from above as it lifts off out of the hanger bay and the engine powers up, then a more realistic take-off shot.
Welcome to WhatCulture, you must be new here xD Same reason they are only talking about the special editions, tho, and not any of the dozens of edits Lucas made after-the-fact in 77, 78, 79...etc.
My thoughts exactly ... so the author had many video clips and can insert them into a video wherever he pleases... good for him, but completely made the viewing experience frustrating.
+Jeff G You could have just said it was annoying without talking like a pretentious wannabe critic trying to act intelligent. "Utterly tedious" holy fucking shit
I agree that the lightsaber edits were justified, but I never really felt like they looked right until the Force Awakens. It took me a few viewings where I felt the lightsabers finally looked perfect, but never could figure out why until I realized that it was because they actually acted as light sources now. In previous movies, they just looked like glowy sticks with a sort of aura around them and it made it feel like they weren't quite... There. However, in Force Awakens, the fact that lightsabers illuminated the actors and the world around them made them feel a lot more present in the world itself and I loved that.
bobbelonie It didn't bother me until Episode VIII came out and I saw what they should have looked like from the start. Though I realize there was probably some technological boundary in the way, even in the prequel movies.
If I’m gonna complain about anything then maybe it’s that they look a little too colourful in TFA. The part where Kylo and Rey have locked sabers at the end make it look like a mid 90s rave in full swing. But ultimately yeah the lightsaber effect is much better nowadays than it was.
No, the last time he really was a jedi was after he redeemed himself and killed the Emperor. Not only does this change go against established star wars lore for force ghosts, it also is extremely disrepectful to the original actor who played Anakin/Vader, who is now cut from the credits as well!
I think adding Hayden Christenson as a force ghost in return of the Jedi was a welcome change. I understand that t might be disrespecting the original actor an I know that Anakin aged but I think it’s better on a symbolic level. Anakin does in rots, Darth Vader took his place. When vader killed palpatine it was Anakin coming back. So seeing Anakin as the ghost at the point where he does in the story makes sense.
Yeah, but no. The whole idea is that Vader was redeemed from the dark side and became Anakin again just before his death. In his dying moment, he was an aged Anakin of the light, hence why his ghost showed him like that. If Vader died before being redeemed, then it would make more sense.
Holy heck, man. Calm down. So you like and dislike different things. This is not going to end the world, so just accept that people have differing opinions, and respect that. You don't have to agree, but please respect it.
I get what you me and agree to an extent but I think he sounded so much cooler before they changed the voice and I liked him better never seeing the face. Not knowing who he is was cool because he was whoever you wanted him to be.
Yeah, but the Boba Fett replacement was disrespectful to the actor who put in a lot of work playing Fett in the originals, when the old emperor was actually just played by the wife of one of the SFX guys when they couldn't find anyone else.
Audial Architect I explained that already. it's because they didn't get an actor to play the emperor, they just needed him in the movie and didn't know what to do. there probably wasn't even a name in the credits for who played him. Boba Fett was played by an actor who was hired to play an awesome character, and then he was wiped out of the movies altogether.
Can't agree on the celebrations at the end of Return of the Jedi. They always seemed so out of place, especially considering the scope of the expanded universe at the time of the release of the Special Editions. It's not like the Empire just rolled over and died the moment the emperor was killed. The Rebels won a significant victory that day but the war wasn't over. The Force Awakens confirmed as much as the Battle of Jakku that basically did finally end the Empire wasn't until a year later. Depicting people celebrating on the Imperial capital world would have been like the citizens of Berlin taking to the streets to celebrate immediately after the D Day invasion.
Well, the Force Awakens wasn't even being considered yet, so Lucas wasn't aware that Disney was gonna hit a giant reset button and undo all of Luke, Leia and Han's hard work in order to continue the series. In my opinion, that decision was worse than Greedo shooting first, the romance scenes of the prequels, AND jar jar binks.
Toa Hero that was one of the worst part about Force Awakens. The original trilogy basically meant nothing in the end. They were so focused on bringing back the good parts of the original trilogy that they failed to offer new things. Now we are BACK to an empire vs the rebels storyline for no good reason.
actually the rebels did succeed in freeing the galaxy from tyranny, with the remnants of the empire retreating far out beyond the reach of the new republic, then members of the rebel alliance became "the resistance" and went chasing after those remnants. The scene in which the first order fires their star killer cannon was them pretty much erasing all of the major planets of the new republic and sending the galaxy into disarray.
knightofficer Which was stupid. The destruction of 5 planets wouldn't automatically put the first order back in total control like they claimed. Besides, that dividing laser beam was stupid. If they had really wanted to make it look cool, they would have had the beam hi the sun, and cause a supernova.
Toa Hero they beam wasn't a laser it was a fusion weapon, they basically killed the planets with a directed nova, shooting a sun with it would basically have been like pouring a glass of water into a glass of water
Have you seen the Originals trilogy documentary "Star Wars: Empire of Dreams" Even though it is an official Lucasfilms release it becomes pretty clear that a lot of the original iconic things about Star Wars were created inspite(!) of George Lucas! Not saying he didn't do great stuff but we clearly saw what his "pure artistic vison" would become if nobody is there to contradict him in the Prequels!
daAnT1990 Doesnt mean a thing, he was in the front of the entire thing, it was his work, without him it would have been any other IP from a studio that would have been remade and thats about it!
Let's be honest, the force ghost change makes sense, and was absolutely justified. The force ghost looking nothing like the actual Anakin makes no sense, and it's obvious that if Anakin himself were to choose a form to take, it would be the one he was in the last time he was truly "Anakin Skywalker" the hero of the clone wars, powerful Jedi, opponent to the sith, symbol of hope, and most importantly the way he looked the last time he saw the love of his life.
It actually makes alot of sense having the stormtroopers wainting in formation in the hanger. The military will have you get into a formation for everything. Especially if your on a giant battle station the size of a moon. The ammount of men needed to act apon a prison break is not that many. You also overhear a storm trooper ask another if they know whats going on, the other replies with "its probably just another drill". With so many units being stationed on the death star and with communications not being sent down the chain of command, of course there are going to be units standing around in a formation. They wouldnt be in formation if it wasn't on high alert, they'd probably reside at their barracks or wherever their specific unit is stationed on the death star. A formation is also not just for show, its accountability.
Archangel 717 to be fair if Star Trek IV and the Final Countdown can get away with it why not SW? More ludicrous things have happened IRL like a british officer leading a Normandy charge on D-day armed with nothing but a sword and bagpipes!
I agree with all of these apart from Han chasing the Storm Troopers. I can actually remember watching that at the cinema as a nine year old kid and laughing. It worked brilliantly for me that he pushed them into retreat for a few seconds by just being so confident in his charge at them, and when they click and he needs to turn tale and run, it was an hilarious character defining moment.
Despite the slightly dated CGI, I really always enjoyed the Stormtroopers on Dewbacks being shown in movement rather than as obscure background pieces like they are in the original, because of how it shows the Empire adapting to all the environments they occupy.
Berlin had been under siege and been bombed into ruins, and the Soviet army raped thousands of women upon capturing it when Germany finally surrendered. Not the best comparison to draw.
I actually liked the Anakin change at the end of the trilogy, it actually makes a lot of sense why he'd choose that old look as a peaceful force ghost, most notably cause it was the last look of him before he turned into Darth Vader and becoming what he should have been like (even though he never saw himself as what he should have became) instead of what he was. It also be more comforting being remember the young man he was instead of the old face he became. Also, I do like the prequels a fair bit too, and I felt mostly satisfied with what we got out of Lucas. And I'm not sure about the old fans of Star Wars, (as I was -1 years when the special edition came out) but I think they turned out mostly great, and they moved me emotionally. (of course I think the originals are still way superior to the prequels, but I think they concluded the circle well)
Cleaning up the battle on Hoth. Some of the effects shots (Luke's initial attack run, being shot down, the X-Wings with the transport leaving Hoth) had some transparency issues. While it was a subtle update, it improved on an already amazing battle.
Wait that thing could kill outside it's solar system..how..uh did the planet move. I still don't get that how a stationary doomsday machine is threat. starsystem aren't exactly next door you knkow.
zuzoscorner Somehow, they figured out how to make that slow read beam travel at hyper speed. Once thing I've learned long ago, is to never look for actual science in StarWars, because you won't find it. Every conceivable law of physics is broken a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
I disagree on the celebration across the galaxy, but only because it looks bad. If they re-did it today with better looking graphics it would be fine. Or even better, cut in actual set shots with real actors.
Moonbolt Yeah some more realism to these celebration scenes would be nice, I can still appreciate the idea to make it seem grander and connect all 6 movies.
The realism is NOT having those celebrations! They wouldn't have known! The Emperor's death wasn't instantly known throughout the galaxy! And the Empire was still primarily in control. They shouldn't have had a clue yet!
two arguments. one, who says they didn't have cell phones or similar international alert services to spread news instantaneously. also most of the planetary governments were most probably not supporting the empire and could therefore unseat, for the most part anyway, the empires representatives and or the local militias who "control" the planetary governments.
Roger Samaniego Rogue One kind of proves that...And they still don't seem to have things like cell phones in The Force Awakens, so...The most high-tech things they have in communications are more akin to walkie-talkies...and VERY primitive e-mail, which only the governments seem to have(ie. the transmission of the Death Star Plans to the Rebel Alliance).
The "Close the blast doors!" line was IN the original '77 theatrical release (at least in some theaters)... I remember having this discussion with a friend in college (circa 1991~1992), where we each remembered scenes from the original release that were NOT in the home video versions. One that we both remembered was the "Close the blast doors, close the blast doors!... Open the blast doors, open the blast doors!" There are other parts that I've still never seen since '77. 😕
Yep - there were several different versions distributed, some with slightly different dialog. I originally saw it in a first-run theater (that still had SenseSurround audio equpment at the time, and they used it to good effect), and the version I saw had the same line in it. It was only decades later that I learned about all the different print versions that were made back then, "tuned" to different projection and audio equipment.
+MrJest2 Yeah, I've also heard that there were different versions during its first run. I also remember C3PO intentionally breaking something from the red droid's head, CAUSING him to fizzle, and thereby forcing Luke to buy R2-D2. C3PO saying "the next time I stick my neck out for you..." makes more sense in that context. 😉
As a 9 year old in 1979 I remember borrowing the Star Wars Story LP from my local library and playing the shit out of it till I knew the lines by heart. "Close the Blast doors" was on that record. It wasn't until I saw the 1997 SE version that I heard that line again and was transported back to '79.
I like how they changed the music in the final scene of Return of the Jedi. Both Yub Nub and Victory Celebration are both great pieces of music composed by John Williams and they both fit the scene, but the latter adds a very fitting somber tone to the scene. We feel sympathy for Luke having just lost his father and we also feel sad at seeing the end to one of the greatest trilogies of all time.
Jar Jar may be annoying but the poor gungans were just chilling underwater minding their own business, its nice to see them break from the shackles of the empire too.
Well, I mostly agree. The only other change I would applaud is the new victory celebration theme added at the end of Return of the Jedi. I have nothing against Yub nub, but it is only a good theme for a random Eewok party, definitely not for the celebration of the Empire's fall and the conclusion of one of the best trilogy ever.
You almost had me with "Jedi Rocks" - I was a half-second away from yelling in protest. I like the new hologram scene, though I do think they should've made him look closer to his performance from "Return of the Jedi". A fan called Adywan did a great job, with his Revisited version of that moment.
There was an audio drama that expanded even further on Biggs's death. In that one, after Biggs dies, we hear Luke go "Biggs? BIGGS!!!". I think that would have been a welcome change to the special edition.
Mine comes from Return Of The Jedi. In the later version Darth Vader yells, "nooo....NOOO!!!!" Before he threw The Emperor down the shaft. When I first noticed it, it sent shivers down my spine, not sure why.
The scene that has always bothered me, even the first time I saw it in 77, is the count down to the Deathstar clearing Yavin to shoot the 4th moon.. The counter on screen never matches the dialogue. In all of the changes in all of the additions it is never corrected. Irritates the hell out of me.
I know you were only covering the original trilogy but on the Blu-ray version of The Phantom Menace, I was actually happy they changed the puppet Yoda into the CG Yoda of the other two films, but only because I always thought that puppet was ugly
Yoda didn't battle in Menace, he only battled in Clones & Sith. Had they restored the original puppet or made the new one to resemble the old one, they wouldn't need to change him in the first episode.
Joe Nesvick I don't know, maybe they were in a hurry to get Yoda on or maybe they didn't know how they wanted to make him look like on the movie until Attack of the Clones
Gee, tone down the literal picture references. You don't have to put 5 picture on screen to make us understand a sentence. Sure it's good if it's used moderately but this is just overkill.
Personally I like the pictures explaining sentences thing, plus it adds some great opportunities for puns. But I can see what you mean, there is a lot of that in this video.
I definetely agree on that, in my opinion it would have been better to show either more examples of the scene, or show the scene twice or at half the speed. The pictures get really annoying.
FUCKFACE MCGEE Why watch some grainy VHS when you have something as amazing as the internet at your disposal? originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V25-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713
The additional ships in all the films was a huge plus and greatly needed. That was straight up a limitation of the time and budget back during the originally filming. Those changes make better reflect the scale and seriousness of those battles. The changes to the speederbike chase on Endor is another one I really enjoyed that wasn't mentioned.
I find the celebration one a bit odd since my understanding was that the Empire wasn't necessarily destroyed at the end of Jedi, rather that just Emperor was killed, so wouldn't Coruscant and all the other Empire controlled planets still have stormtroopers and such on them? I'm not into Star Wars lore so maybe I'm wrong, I just couldn't see the remainder of the Empire giving up control of the whole galaxy because their leader died, surely they'd still have generals and such to take over?
You're thinking is actually spot on when it comes to the new canon of books that have come out. The Aftermath trilogy addresses what you are talking about. I won't give out too much, but the prologue of the first book shows what happened on Coruscant immediately after the celebration scene in Return of the Jedi (And it is not pretty). I'm almost finished with the 2nd novel of the trilogy. They're not bad. They aren't my favorite books so far in the new canon, but so far they have lived up to the title of Aftermath.
The Astral Fish Yeah, it was awkward and seemed to shoehorn in ALL THE RECOGNIZABLE PLACES! Also, how do they know so quickly? I realize they have communicators, but that quickly? Yeah, right.
I wondered that after the alteration also, though passed it as a sometime in the future these places were liberated epilogue thing at least they didnt make the mistake of showing Alderaan celebrating (though it would have been funny to have a silent pause scene and floating asteroids) . usually you find when dictators are deposed that someone will try to step in and there is carnage, it is possible the rebels had operatives on some of those worlds waiting to hear the result of the attack and ready to disseminate the info or ready to trigger mini revolutions. but certainly not firework parties lol, the thing that worried me also is Anakins Force ghost shouldnt it be a lot more like the ghosts from Stardust? lol
Fanatic and extreme doesn't even come close to describe how sadistic and insane these fanboys are. Just the slightest mention of the Prequels, Jar Jar or even the Special Edition could trigger them in ways you can't imagine.
No, it's defintely true. Even these people got angry about a the existance of a Gungan in the background. Appearently Gungan-language is stupid and unneccessary but Yoda's way of speaking is iconic. Someone has to explain this to me, because it makes no sense at all!
why would you figure that? The majority of the galaxy was suffering and under oppression from the emperor and it's not hard to imagine the most suffering was found in the capital.
Stevean2 They show them all happening at the same time, after the emperor is killed. There's absolutely no evidence given to suggest that those clips were set days, weeks, months, or years apart.
Stevean2 The evidence is in the fact that they're cut back to back. It's basic movie logic, and if you can't understand that, then how do you follow any movie plot? One scene we see the death of the emperor, the next we get back to back cuts of celebrations across the galaxy. That's unbelievably clear that not only are they all joining together simultaneously in celebration, but that they're all celebrating the same thing, which is completely unrealistic. Naboo would have very different reasons to join together in celebration than Endor, but all we see in the movie is the battle of Endor won, which is why the Ewoks are celebrating in the first place, not the fall of the empire, not the death of the emperor, but the victory against the stormtroopers. For the humans there, the celebration was much larger, but we're given nothing to suggest anything else happened to warrant celebration on those other planets, and the cuts suggest they're happening simultaneously.
My only issue with the celebration scene was how "instantaneous" the celebrations began. There's no sense of "time" for these, so for all we know, the instant that the heroes and furballs are celebrating, all the other worlds are celebrating as well. Which, wouldn't make sense, isn't there a empire presence on the rest of planets?
gearzdesign all the high ranks were on the death Star and the big Star destroyers. the stormtroopere wouldnt really have orders or backup so they would be easy to take over, I think
Thijmen Vervaet But with Force awakens out, we see that's not entirely the case. There's still various commanders and generals out there who were likely not in the deathstar fight.
I'm not sure about that. There must be been thousands more shipd and millions more troops around the galaxy than what was seen in the battle of Endor. Even if the cream of the Imperial Navy officers died in teh battle, there must have been leadership in place in other systems.
You are right, but these three, Naboo, Coruscant and Bespin are not ordinary planets. All three are freedom loving ones, the first two had strong bonds with the Republic, Bespin was very rebellious against the Empire. So you could assume that these would want and be able to get rid of the remaining forces as fast as they can. And it's also unclear if these events happen at the same time.
TBH the main problem here is that Lucas never released the original cuts. Cause there are people like me which didn't mind any of the changes and liked the prequels. If he released them there would be a lot of people either seeing that the changes are improvements or getting a lovely nostalgia that brings them back to when they were a kid getting that price millennium falcon. It would indefinitely fix the broken fandom which episode 7 put the tape around
Mad Mateo I agree and I mean however small THE some changes are Its his creation and his vision so if he wanted that rock there let him put it there. Is it really causing that much harm?
Mad Mateo I agree and I mean however small THE some changes are Its his creation and his vision so if he wanted that rock there let him put it there. Is it really causing that much harm?
Mad Mateo yeah I agree. And if you ostracise people that like the prequels doesn't that make them the inferior starwars fan? "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering" -yoda
Define "real" Star Wars fans ? To me if you didn't see in cinemas back in 1977 you don't have the appreciation for how ground breaking that movies series was.
My only complaint with the change is that it appears the celebration happens the same day as the death of the Emperor and the second Death Star. That seems like a very short amount of time to get word to every plant, and I imagine some planets being less exuberant than others. I realize that they could be happening at different times, but the way the cuts work it seems like it is happening at the same time as the Ewok celebration. The change in the music was great though, much more thoughtful like the future may be uncertain, but it is full of hope.
Agreed, i always thought to myself how on earth did coruscant and naboo know the empired been defeated?! but when i shut myself off to the nitpicky details, i realise how good of an ending it is :)
+Adam Edwards This isn't the middle ages. Messengers don't travel from place to place spreading news. I'm sure with the communication and vast interstellar network they have established, spreading such huge information so quickly isn't difficult. Also they showed the more advanced plants celebrating which would undoubtedly get word quicker.
I have always liked the end of Return of the Jedi, when you get to see Anakin with Ben and Yoda being all ghostly and blue. It gives you hope that he was remembered for who he was, not who he became.
except luke never knew him for who he was and it makes no sense why obi wan would be old why doesn't obi wan get to be young too because luke didn't know either of them when they were young and it's luke seeing them not that retcon bullshit ghost powers
The original Emperor was portrayed by two people: The wife of legendary make-up effects guru Rick Baker and the vocalisation of Clive Revill. Chimp eyes were super imposed over Mrs Baker's eyes after.
Changes that still are needed: #1 The force ghost should start with old Anakin and morph into younger Anakin. Perhaps even same for Obi Wan... from Alec to Ewan.
What, like with an effect where the ghosts become pure silhouettes with no discernible features for a moment, then fade into Hayden and Ewan? Like, they start out old, then glow brighter until the light is too bright to see any features, then the glow dies down and now they're young? It sounds cool when I describe it that way, so I'd be cool with it.
Agreed, that's a neat idea. It's really jarring to have Anakin be inexplicably young as a ghost but not Obi-wan (or Yoda), but I do remember as a kid being SO confused when Vader's ghost showed up, because we never once see Vader look like that. If they could make the Anakin actor look older, that would probably be a good compromise I think.
My way of explaining why it's like that is, when was the last time Anakin was a Jedi. He didn't become a Jedi at the end of Ep 6. He just did the right thing. Last time he was a Jedi was Ep 3. Therefore each of them would be in their Jedi forms. And I've seen people complain about Anakin becoming a ghost without training. He's the strongest force user in the galaxy. I'm certain there are things that come naturally to him.
i know im in a minority but i always liked the change at the end of Jedi when luke sees the force ghosts. Taking out shaw and replacing it with Christianson was a nice touch
But it never made sense. Why did Anakin's character revert to his appearance from his 20's? Obi Wan didn't turn back into Ewan McGregor. And you could argue that they reverted to their "jedi forms," but Vader redeemed himself before death, so Shaw WOULD have been the correct actor. I don't know how to make sense of it other than Lucas can never stop sticking his fingers in the cookie dough.
The base is on high alert, off duty stormtroopers get in armor and report to bay 16 for briefing. 2 hours later, briefing begins. We suspect that there were enemy agents loose on the Death Star, while you stood around here doing nothing they escaped.
As long as they only work 8 hours a day that's honestly not so bad considering the financial security and endless benefits from both the people's taxes what private businesses offer...
they were in the middle of a safety stand down. can't miss those, even if the station is under attack. "don't kill yourselves, not that you can hit anything anyways." "don't rape people, again, not that you can 'hit' anything anyways."
I'd like to add the change to the music of the end of Return of the Jedi. Yub Nub, while adorable, sure wasn't the powerful ending it deserved, and John Williams re-scoring the finale was just perfect. It is by far, MY most important change.
Most of the "celebration" scenes made absolutely no sense. The tatooine one, for example... that's the worst offender. Tatooine is in Hutt space, and it's not even a part of the Empire OR the Rebel Alliance. People there would just have minded their own business. Naboo was the homeworld of Palpatine, so I strongly doubt there would have been an instantaneous gunganbang for his demise. Also, Coruscant... rebellions and leaders' deaths don't work that way. Coruscant would have been in UPHEAVAL after receiving the news about Palpatine's death. Remember that he had removed the senate and so, as most other worlds, it was probably under the direct control of an imperial governor. Any attempt at throwing parties and celebrations for the Emperor's death would probably have been repressed with force. It wasn't like: the death star II has been destroyed, the Emperor's dead... we're all New Republicans now. War could have realistically have dragged on for decades.
+Bryan Mack Instead of calling any thought at all _"overthinking"'_, you could just ask people to stop thinking in a whole. But its not like this makes more sense though. Most people like to be human, you know?
I think by "hutt space" you mean the outer rim, anyways you´re right, tatooine wouldn't even have a way to receive info from other parts of the galaxy!
Aurex One eeny flaw in your argument; all of the galaxy was claimed & dominated by the Empire. The outer rim territories were too far away from the center core to be properly under the Empire's thumb. Like in real life, the farther you are from the seat of government, the less direct influence the government can exercise on the outposts. The hutts exploited that well like all organized crime tends to do, but make no mistake; if they created too many headaches for the Empire, they would've been zorched. After all that, a simpler observation; no ruthless kleptocracy would've tolerated interference from an outside source willingly. Why then were the stormtroopers allowed total freedom on a planet not claimed by the Empire?
+Scot Carr Yes, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's clear that the Empire had some jurisdiction even there, the Hutt didn't care at all about two missing droid, and even if they did... they would probably not have gotten involved. They just cared about their own business, slavery, smuggling and all. I think the reason the stormtroopers were given complete freedom in their search might have been because the Hutt (that are, at least in the now non-canon extended universe, VERY involved in galactic affairs with a rather extensive espionage network) knew about the droids, possibly about the death star and could have simply took them (or tried to.) But they probably weren't willing to go to war over that, since a cartel like theirs can survive as long as it manages to stay behind the scenes. I'm not even sure they had a fleet of their own on Nal Hutta. But again, between the new canon and legends from the extended universe... who knows.
Changing puppet Yoda in Phantom Menace to CGI Yoda was a good change in my opinion. Puppet Yoda looked fine in the original trilogy, but in Phantom Menace he just looked weird.
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx I think I've heard that it's something to do with the lighting, the original puppet Yoda was only ever featured on Dagobah which was generally shadowy and dark. In the phantom menace the environment was much more bright and showed the limitations of the puppetry far more clearly. As for the last jedi though, no idea xD
Original trilogy puppet yoda looks weird too honestly
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx I think Heorge was going for a younger look. Would be weird if that were the case. You would think 50 odd years wouldn't make too much of a difference for Yoda.
Absofuckinlutely the prequel puppet yoda was fricken terrifying
Luke Huizenga they used the exact same puppet for TLJ from Empire. The reason why it’s look like it’s aged is because... well, the thing was made in 1980
Adding Tatooine to the celebration at the end doesn’t really make that much sense to me. It seems to me that the inhabitants of Tatooine were relatively unfazed by the presence of the empire.
David Wiles Luke didn’t even know the empire existed. And his dad was in it lol
George Scott pretty sure Luke did know about the empire, otherwise it wouldn’t make sense for him to tell Obi Wan “it’s not that I like the empire, I hate it, but I’ve got work to do right now...”. But even that is an indication of how little the empire figures in his mind.
There was an Imperial garrison on Tatooine so that could’ve affected the inhabitants
Two residents were fucking cremated lmao
@LavaDuck Which was in the middle of the Dune Sea where moisture farmers and Tusken Raiders are the only inhabitants (Jawa's don't count. They technically live on the move most of the time, only stopping to make deals with the other locals or any shipments coming from other parts of the galaxy). Most people wouldn't hear about that sort of thing unless a trooper from that squad let slip about what happened.
All these reshoots but chewie still can’t get a medal
Chewie didnt want a medal.
Chewie didn’t want a medal as he didn’t want to be different from the other Wookiee’s. In Wookiee culture only they chief is aloud to wear gold so it also goes against his beliefs
In real life it was because Carrie Fisher was too short
Well now he has one
Well he gets one
“Weesa free” is perfect, I won’t hear anything else
Tbf the will helm scream in that section had me on the edge of my seat 😂😂
anything else
You may have defeated the Empire, but Darth Jar Jar remains.
I actually like Gungans
Zach Wiseman me too idk what’s wrong with people
The first hologram of the Emperor looked like he had an allergy from eating seafoods
He looked he got chicken pox lol
@@dingkong5034 He looked like he was on deathsticks.
His eyes looked like mouths
It was a she btw
The Special Edition version looks like he was stung by a bee.
It's so clearly his ROTS appearance which is vastly different from his ROTJ appearance.
I'm glad that Lucas replaced the English text used on sets and props in Episode IV with the Aurebesh text from the rest of the Star Wars canon. Why wasn't that on the list?
My only issue with that is that is raises the question "Why the hell do they call it an X-Wing?" when there's not a single letter in Aurebesh that looks like an X. There's also nothing that looks like an A or a B, and the letter that looks like a Y is 'V.'
Z95 Headhunter. Believe the Z is written somewhere in because IT IS spoken.
Because most people don't care.
We also have the Lambda and Upsilon shuttles, along with Delta squadron, Zeta squadron, and more. From which planet a long time ago in a galaxy far far away does the Greek script originate?
They all speak English too.
Fun Fact: The Emperor in Empire was played by three actors; Marjorie Eaton played the body, Clive Revill provided the voice and the superimposed eyes were provided by a chimpanzee.
So 'he' was played by a man, a woman and a primate.
Which, coincidentally, is the name of my sex tape.
Humans are also primates.
Joe Keyes
Not the one in my sex tape.
I regret to inform I'll have to be confiscating said sex tape for... *"important research"*
Lee Perkins Classic
So Lucas has a thing for getting multiple actors to play bad guys then, as Darth Vader was also played by 3 people (body, voice and face).
The very first Emperor was played by a woman; 78 year old Marjorie Eaton ( 1901-1986 ).
Apparently this isn’t true - it was just for testing of stages or something.
@@snowcatxx87 I just checked the credits on IMDB for Empire Strikes back and Marjorie Eaton is only one credited for playing the Emperor in the original version.
huh
Cool
She's wearing an ape mask left over from a different movie, that's why her eyes look weird.
not huge into adding cgi just for the hell of it, but switching out yoda in episode one with cgi was a good call. That puppet (not the one for the original trilogy) was the stuff of nightmares
Yeah...how could they transform cute and funny Yoda from TESB into that monstrosity?
The original puppet didn't stand the test of time, so they had a new one made, that just happen to suck. With the new one, they tried to make him look a bit younger. CGI did it better.
Even Frank Oz wanted Yoda in episode one to be CGI. Granted, that was also because it had been a physical nightmare to do Yoda on the swamp world set of Empire, and Oz was now twenty years older for Ep One's shooting and not looking forward to living under a sound stage again for weeks.
Yes it sucks I have the phantom menace as a DVD and it's of puppet Yoda and it's scary as shit so I only watch it on the TV because that's spooky shit
He isn't that creepy, but yeah I CGI looks better !
Thehe, If you guys find the puppet creepy then try to watch meanwhile the Spongebob close theme is playing ;).
Possible unpopular opinion:
To be perfectly honest, I actually really like Hayden Christensen as Anakin. True, there were definitely dialogue issues and the direction he was given was very questionable, but that is the fault of the writers and director, not Hayden himself. Hayden actually knew the character of Anakin spectacularly well as he and George Lucas actually sat down and had an extensive talk about it, and he did as well as he could with the material and direction he was given.
Hayden did an amazing job. His performance portrayed the inner struggle Anakin was having, like you said, exactly like George had wanted him to. He even tried to speak in a way in line with the way Vader did.
Christensen..
Same
Yes!!
The prequel trilogy are fantastic in every way except for the writing. They are all incredible actors and George Lucas is a great movie maker. The problem is that Lucas is a terrible writer which was one of the few problems they had. Most of the lines are rather bland which really brought the prequels down
"close the blast doors"
*"OPEN THE BLAST DOORS OPEN THE BLAST DOORS"*
@Garrin Williamson he fucked up.
That line is on the original 'story of the film' released on LP in the 1970s
10-year-old me enjoyed that bit when it was shown in theaters.
I want the obi wan Vader fight that a fan made recently to be cut in. Look up star wars reimagined 38
mace nigdu Yes! It’s great if not a little OTT at times.
Yes please!!!
I agree with you....
Thanks for letting us know about that video man its awesome
Yes on that! I actually was watching SW: IV once and right at that scene I switched over to TH-cam and played that scene and started up IV where I left off. It was perfect
The extra ships added to the battle scenes are a definite plus point. The original version always felt like there was a handful of x-wings rather than a full on rebel assault.
A handful of X-Wings IS the Rebels' full-on assault. That is the point!
Removing the eyebrows off of Vader was something I consider justify.
Same.
Sleepy Cerberus same because there's no hair on his head because of the burns and surgeries so why would there be brows
Same, as small as it was, the eyebrows looked f*cking stupid
Darth Vader (to himself in a mirror with his helmet off): "Yeah, that day on Mustafar was awful. I miss my hair, but at least I still have my eyebrows. I think I'll comb them."
His facial expressions looks better with the eyebrows, but for continuity sake I guess it makes sense.
Han didn't shoot first, he shot period. Greedo never fires his weapon.
Greedo wasn't evil, he was just a hungry bear.
Right!
I gotta better one. It doesn't matter who shot first. Han won and walked away
@@knightghost1782
Exactly.
Greedo's greed killed him, he messed with the wrong "scum." Wasted for merely holding a top smuggler at gunpoint
What's interesting is that Lucas didn't think of dialogue as its own thing. He thought of dialogue as part of the soundtrack. In an interview with Alec Guinness during the time of the original trilogy, he states that Lucas' original script for the original Star Wars had extremely clunky and awkward dialogue, which he asked if some of it could be altered or changed. I guess he's never had a way with dialogue, but he believes that the emotion should be expressed by line delivery, the soundtrack, and body language, rather than the words themselves. Alec Guinness is also commonly referred to by fans as "hating Star Wars," but in this same interview I saw, he addressed this exact thing. He said that he wasn't a fan of sci-fi movies or books, but once he read Lucas' script, he couldn't stop reading it and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think people misjudged him calling Star Wars "goofy."
I guess many people don't like to think of Star Wars as goofy. Unfortunately there are multiple goofy scenes and lines within the OT. Lines like: "Get in there ya big oaf! I don't care what you smell!", or scenes such as Chewbacca repairing C-3PO and putting his head on backwards and Threepio complaining loudly about it. Or, and this one really takes the cake for me: Luke Skywalker telling his Protocol droid to make the Ewoks release him and the other rebels or Threepio will, and I quote, "Unleash your terrible powers upon them."
jesus christ maybe show the scenes you're talking about instead of these random stills and punchlines?
sauercrowder The video would get zapped in three seconds. Because fair use is a lie apparently. Smfh
Copyright , he probably cannot
Just follow this link to a far better series
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I totally agree with you. I got so annoyed with all the fluff nonsense footage added. Just too much going on.
I'm sure it's a fine balance since Disney is a bear trap for copyright strikes
What the hell do you mean "Han shot first"? Han is the only one that shot. Greedo was dead before he could pull the trigger.
soulsabr Gredo actually shot first
TheJamesFTW nah, they digitally altered Han to move to make it seem like he dodged a shot that wasn't originally there
Han straight up killing Greedo defines his character. He is a smuggler, not a hero. That he later becomes a hero (returning to help Luke) shows his growth as a character from self-interest to seeing a bigger picture. Take that away and the scene has no gravity.
Ralph Dixon Have you gone back and looked at that edit lately? I can't even call it half assed. :)
The guy who played Greedo said Han shot first.
Wampa was hungry not evil
He was evil hungry. There are different stages of hungry. Evil hungry is the worst. You know how it is. You eat a Wampa and an hour later you think, "Man, Wampas are like Chinese food. I'm as hungry as I was an hour ago. I am so evil hungry."
I really like the "young" Anakin at the very end of the original trilogy!
Nrkade K
Yeah so fitting because that's the last time he was not on the dark side.
Paul so when he killed his sith master and saved his son's life he was on the dark side?
@@obsidiousmarical3498 I always took it as that was the last time he recognized himself as Anakin, so it's fitting that his force ghost took that form
@@ralfred2009 I mean this is where it gets a little bit more complicated because we can't say for sure but maybe both versions could essentially work but the one that appeals to more people is going to be the most loved one and I think that is what the old cut does so well and I could discuss it more but it would be really long so I will only do so if you would like to read it.
The irrelevant images are very annoying and make the clip less enjoyable.
I found it flowed well with what he was saying but he did need to add more star wars visuals to what he was talking about
i agree
Afroditi M. Your irrelevant comments are annoying and make the comments section less enjoyable.
Damn right! Seems like the author tries to illustrate every single word with a corresponding pic. WTF? What’s the goal?! Stupidity, I guess.
It doesn't make the clip "less enjoyable", it makes it totally stupid and unwatchable.
That stormtrooper was an original clone with one of Jango Fett's tendencies to bump his head.
They added that character trait because of this one silly extra. That’s hilarious.
"Just like the simulations..."
Kahn Family j
Kahn Family j
That would mean the clone was like 60-80 years old
Hayden Christiansen as Anakin's force ghost made perfect sense to me, I don't care how much heat I get, after the prequals, it made sense for Anakin to go back to who he was last time he was good......bite me haters 😝
I was just about to post the same. I really liked that particular change.
He redeemed himself before he died. It makes no sense.
Sebastian Shaw is dead.
Here's the thing. Spirit's look doesn't entirely depend on the physical looks one had in the end, because if it was the case Anakin should've been limbless, bald and scarred.
The idea was that Anakin's spirit was gone in Ep.3, replaced or "killed" by Vader as Obi-Wan said. So when Anakin came back, he (his spirit in particular) looked like he did when he was "killed" in Ep.3, and didn't age in those 5-10 minutes he lived after killing Sidious.
Starwaker well said sir, well said
"Weesa free!"
Me: that sounded like Jar Jar.
Thats what I though
In canon, he’s never actually died. So, it could be him 😅
It would be strange for it to be him, as I’m pretty sure he joins the senate on coruscant after AOTC.
I'll be honest, a fuck ton of the changes I can just ignore. However Jedi Rocks you cannot ignore, easily the worst change.
Urgh. I hate-hate-HATE the stupid musical number in Jabba's palace. The whole scene is just distracting because I know, even if Lucas has made it nearly impossible for me to get my hands on the movies I watched when I was a kid, that the chick being dragged into the rancor pit was far more interesting and useful for establishing Jabba's character. We don't need to know he's got a cool band. We need to know he's a gross slug who is perfectly happy and entertained by casually murdering anyone that displeases him.
*****
Well I never had that version as a kid, I'm only 19. This was my first and only version so I've only ever seen this one. I've seen clips and pictures of the original but it would be interesting to see the original all the way through.
i'm 18 and the first version i watched was the 2004 one, and yes, i like jedi rocks
Darthpepo
Hm, strange I'll admit. Being under 20, I really don't mind most of the changes because they were in the first version I watched. But Jedi Rocks I couldn't help but cringe at, even as a kid. It's the only change which I completely hate.
ShandalfGreyhame i actually like it due to battlefront 2, cause i liked it when it plays during hero assault on mos eisley
I liked the one where they added anakin as part of the ghosts
Why though, Luke wouldn't at first recognise his dad as a young adult, for he only saw him when he died.
Jacbob And neither would he when he took of his helmet. He was burned and scarred from his battle with Kenobi.
Yeah, the old version of "Old Anakin" looks nothing like Anakin and doesn't look suited to his role as "great pilot" or, if we go back to the prequels (or does it mention this bit in the originals?), the Champion of the Republic.
He just looks like somone's dad....... OH, WAIT!
Eh, I like having the older Anakin played by Sebastian Shaw. The reason why Lucas switched him out with Hayden was because he though that was the last time Anakin was good. I don't think so. I think the last time Anakin was good was when he sacrificed his life by hauling the Emperor's ass down that shaft to save his son. If his ghost is supposed to look like the age he was the last time he was good, you'd think it would be the older Anakin, wouldn't you? I also like the older Anakin showing up because it makes you use your brain a bit more. I remember seeing ROTJ for the first time, and when this older dude just shows up, I thought to myself, "Who's that guy.....OH MY GOD, THAT'S VADER!!" That has so much more of an impact than, "Oh, sup Hayden."
GamesPerJustin I know what you're saying, but there are issues with that too. While I agree that an older looking Anakin would have been better, the fact that Shaw looks nothing like Hayden ruins it for me, especially because of how well Ewan Mcgregor matched up to Alec Guinness. Also, because of the lack of resemblance, I think that it isn't actually clear enough that the third ghost is Anakin. When I first saw ROtJ, my parents had to explain who he was before I got it, which ruined the moment entirely. Actually, this was before the prequels, so I don't suppose it would have made much of a difference to that anyway....
So, yes to the older look, no to the (lack of) resemblance to Hayden.
ok it wasn't the original trilogy, but they replace that ridiculous looking younger Yoda in Phantom Menace with the CGI Yoda from the later prequels for the bluray/ 3D rerelease. I know that's replacing Jim Henson's work with more CGI which any other time would be just wrong but damn it was a improvement.
robhigg2203 the one from the original phantom menace didn't look like yoda at all
Kenjamin agreed
couldnt they just have used the original yoda puppet for all the prequels? That way they wouldn't have to have that stupid lightsaber fight...
Charlie Hadley no way! The puppet yoda was horrible and l think they should have changed the OT yoda too because the puppet yoda really looked like shit
Charlie Hadley no way! The puppet yoda was horrible and l think they should have changed the OT yoda too because the puppet yoda really looked like shit
when they added Haydan Christensen at the end of return of the jedi, that was dope
Except it doesn't really make sense for Luke. He doesn't know that is what his father used to look like Bru he knew what he looked like when he took the helmet off. It's fun for the audience but it doesn't make any sense in the context
@@logantotman Well the person who Luke saw was Darth Vader, someone who was mostly turned to the dark side. So, in that context, the force would show someone who’s all good, putting darth vader to his original good self, which Annikan before he turned.
No it wasn't
@@GoodWoIf How
@@logantotman They’re force ghosts. Not a cringe symbolic memory moment!
Re-doing the awful puppet Yoda from Phantom Menace was the best change made to any of the films thus far.
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Well, I hope they never change the Empire/Jedi puppet to a digital version
Um... Watch last Jedi (no spoilers)
Maybe ye
the puppet is iconic and really well made it adds to it even if it looks a little silly i think practical effects outrank the special effects any day
That storm trooper hitting his head in A New Hope is one of my favourite moments in cinematic history. Idk why, it just is.
I liked anakins ghost in the end
Actor IG Me too, actually. I like the idea, anyway, but they did kind of a bad job on it.
I liked it too, technically it was the last time Anakin was at one with the Force, so it made sense. Plus it ties in with episodes II and III.
Mike M I'm not saying your wrong but surely the last time anikin was good and at one with the force was at the end of return of the Jedi when he redeemed himself. But whatever floats your boat
Chaz Hinkley You're spot on. And Luke wouldn't even recognise him.
No the last time was when he killed the Emperor.
If I were to be honest I did infact like how they use Hayden Christenson Force Ghost instead of the Actor who played Darth Vader with his helmet off. Even tho I hated the prequels I did love how it tied it all together
The prequels were way better than this Disney crap. Tom
My only issue with that; why does Anakin revert to a younger version of himself, while Obi and Yoda maintain their old version as force ghosts?
I do love the continuity of using Hayden, though!
Sean Murphy I always thought that since Anakin obi-wan and Yoda are dead then they assume the form that they view them self in. And because Anakin viewed himself as Anakin and not Vader then his force ghost was the ghost of his younger self, and obiwan and Yoda view themself as how they looked right before death.
When I was 8 and I saw ROTJ in the theater I wondered who the old guy beside Obiwan was. He didn't look like the bald Vader so I didn't make the connection. This change made sense to me.
Sean Murphy I think it’s because when Anakin died he was Vader....the force ghost is the good, so it reverted Vader back to Anakin before he became vader
I have only seen the new versions cause I was born in 2000
Best year to be born.
Aye same
Samee bruh #y2k
Same, when I first heard of an original I thought that was what I had and I was curios to see the special.
Same but I was born in 2003
One of the pre-Disney Star Wars novels mentions how the Coruscant celebrations were quickly squashed by stormtroopers (which makes a lot of sense, considering that it was the Imperial throneworld and an entire galaxy-spanning empire wouldn't collapse overnight).
Philip Hunn
The first book of the new canon, Aftermath, also touched on this in the prelude.
if you really think about it at the end of Return of the Jedi the empire was severely crippled the leadership was destroyed but the Empire itself is still there
+Adnan Khan *barely not severely
Never thought I'd find someone else who likes Return of the Jedi the best from the original trilogy
U found another one. (Me m8)
While I still think Empire is the best, ROTJ is still great too.
xCrossGamer Really? The were gremllins shooting with Stones at humans with armors and láser guns
xCrossGamer Return of the Jedi its OK, but Empire Strikes Back. its fucking better
That was my favorite!
Anakin appearing as a ghost for Luke, after Vader dies
That's my favorite
anakins force ghost made 0 sense before hand. how tf was i suposed to know what anakin looks like? it was just some random dude to me. ik its the same guy who played as unmasked vader but he looks completely diffrent.
@@GAIUSJAKE True, which is why I kinda prefer the Hayden version
Also Anakin died as a Jedi long before rotj
@Plushie Pro that's your opinion.
I wouldn't mind any of the changes... if they'd also release the god damn original unaltered trilogy. Jesus, you can make an edited version without trying to erase the original from existence.
MrClickity Pirate it.
It doesn't exist. The despecialized edition is a fan mash up.
They did actually do a release in the early 2000s on DVD that contained both the Special Editions and the original Theatrical Versions. I know because I own it. I knew when it came out it would be a once-in-a-lifetime thing and I got all three.
Jason holy shit you are right, it's 3am and I just fucking woke up and looked at my DVD archive because I knew I had all 6 movies in DVDs and what do you know, the OT DVDs have the theatrical versions and I never knew (kinda forgot about them tbh lol) THANK YOU. I was starting to think I would never be able to watch those versions ever
Guitarman5200 If I’m remembering right, there are still some issues with those versions too. I don’t have them handy to check. I really would just like the version that was on the VHS OT with the stormtrooper, Vader & Yoda on the covers. I think there’s enough room for a high quality DVD or Blu-ray version of the OT and OT SE...one for history and one as George’s definite version. Then let fans figure out which version we like best.
I have copies of the first VHS releases of the OT, and video & sound quality really is quite amazing played on a basic VHS player hooked up to a new Samsung smart tv.
Guess I'm so used to the changes that I forgot how some of these things they looked before. Like the cardboard cutouts or cloud city not having windows.
SonOfAKing Same here. Makes me wonder what else I would be surprised by.
Same. I can only tell something was added/changed when it's blatantly CGI.
TBH i was only 7 when the new versions came out, i'm not even sure if i've ever seen the originals.
SonOfAKing Same here friend, lol. totally forgot how different it really looked back then
soulvanquisher1 I grew up owning the 1997 cuts, so I didn't know there was an older version
haha hell yeah...the only times I seen the original cuts was on tv lol
I know many people will disagree, but I think changing Boba Fett's voice to be the same as Jango's was also completely justified.
No. Old Boba was Great Boba. (And I'm pretty sure a "He's older" solves any lore issues)
Boba was like 10-12 in episode 2, which would put him in his late 30s in episode 6, which is probably younger than Jango in episode 2. That argument doesn't work
Uncle Bo$$
I think people are stupid if they think that changing his voice was dumb. It would be inconsistent continuity if they didn't make his voice the same as Jango's.
He's a clone, so he should have his voice. Why do people not like this change?
L:T:H F:T:W
100% Agree!
Uncle Bo$$ Not everyone likes the prequels. They fuck more shit up than they "Fix".
Actually, one of my favorite changes was when the Millennium Falcon takes off from Tatooine. In the original it just shows a storm trooper looking up at it from the ground as it slowly flies away, in the SE it shows a close up from above as it lifts off out of the hanger bay and the engine powers up, then a more realistic take-off shot.
This editing reminds me of those iMovie trailers you made when you were 7.
I agree! Love the content about Star Wars but we really don't need some random fucking picture for every fucking word he says
Utterly tedious and totally unnecessary. A distraction to the video's substance.
Welcome to WhatCulture, you must be new here xD
Same reason they are only talking about the special editions, tho, and not any of the dozens of edits Lucas made after-the-fact in 77, 78, 79...etc.
My thoughts exactly ... so the author had many video clips and can insert them into a video wherever he pleases... good for him, but completely made the viewing experience frustrating.
+Jeff G You could have just said it was annoying without talking like a pretentious wannabe critic trying to act intelligent. "Utterly tedious" holy fucking shit
I agree that the lightsaber edits were justified, but I never really felt like they looked right until the Force Awakens. It took me a few viewings where I felt the lightsabers finally looked perfect, but never could figure out why until I realized that it was because they actually acted as light sources now. In previous movies, they just looked like glowy sticks with a sort of aura around them and it made it feel like they weren't quite... There. However, in Force Awakens, the fact that lightsabers illuminated the actors and the world around them made them feel a lot more present in the world itself and I loved that.
Abigail Archer-Addams I agree with you 100%
bobbelonie It didn't bother me until Episode VIII came out and I saw what they should have looked like from the start. Though I realize there was probably some technological boundary in the way, even in the prequel movies.
Also, TFA establishes unequivocally that lightsabers are HOT. The atmospheric distortion caused by the heat of the blade is a nice touch.
fredocarroll Well, that's mostly on Kylo's saber because of its shoddy craftsmanship.
If I’m gonna complain about anything then maybe it’s that they look a little too colourful in TFA. The part where Kylo and Rey have locked sabers at the end make it look like a mid 90s rave in full swing. But ultimately yeah the lightsaber effect is much better nowadays than it was.
No matter what anyone says, I will never forgive the Young Anakin Ghost Appearing at the end of Return of the Jedi..
agreed
hypernovaD I found and still find it to this day disrespecting of Lucas to have done that..
DieHardjagged indeed..
I feel like it makes sense since that was the last time Anikan was really a Jedi
No, the last time he really was a jedi was after he redeemed himself and killed the Emperor. Not only does this change go against established star wars lore for force ghosts, it also is extremely disrepectful to the original actor who played Anakin/Vader, who is now cut from the credits as well!
I think adding Hayden Christenson as a force ghost in return of the Jedi was a welcome change. I understand that t might be disrespecting the original actor an I know that Anakin aged but I think it’s better on a symbolic level. Anakin does in rots, Darth Vader took his place. When vader killed palpatine it was Anakin coming back. So seeing Anakin as the ghost at the point where he does in the story makes sense.
Yeah, but no. The whole idea is that Vader was redeemed from the dark side and became Anakin again just before his death. In his dying moment, he was an aged Anakin of the light, hence why his ghost showed him like that. If Vader died before being redeemed, then it would make more sense.
THE SONG. The song in the party at the end. My god, I love it. It's one of the happiest pieces of music ever.
jub nub?
Completely agree. Yub Nub was quirky and cute but the new one really makes you feel that sense of victory.
hahaahahahaahahahaah " jubb jubb "
tipe oh....ill edit if it makes you feel better :)
David Micheal Williams no i love it thats all im gunna call it now : D
I thought the Cloud City windows was perfect
It's were perfect
but your grammar isn't
It is, it's from original concept art from Ralph Mcquarie. But technology in these time Its not ready.
Mace Window
am i the only one who thought the "WESSA FREE" part in return of the jedi was funny
No your not alone
@Ludimeel Sorbo I hate to see what else you like. You have to have brain damage to enjoy that nonsense.
Holy heck, man. Calm down. So you like and dislike different things. This is not going to end the world, so just accept that people have differing opinions, and respect that. You don't have to agree, but please respect it.
J29 hahaha tie fighter go WAAAAAAAAARGH
It was wholesome I randomly scream wessa free whenever I'm done with work now
I like Boba Fett's voice replacement for for exactly the same reason as the Emperor's.
I get what you me and agree to an extent but I think he sounded so much cooler before they changed the voice and I liked him better never seeing the face. Not knowing who he is was cool because he was whoever you wanted him to be.
He was whomever you wanted him to be? Like what people are doing with Snoke right now?
Yeah, but the Boba Fett replacement was disrespectful to the actor who put in a lot of work playing Fett in the originals, when the old emperor was actually just played by the wife of one of the SFX guys when they couldn't find anyone else.
So, how is Boba Fett being replaced is disrespectful but Sidious being replaced isn't?
Audial Architect I explained that already. it's because they didn't get an actor to play the emperor, they just needed him in the movie and didn't know what to do. there probably wasn't even a name in the credits for who played him. Boba Fett was played by an actor who was hired to play an awesome character, and then he was wiped out of the movies altogether.
Can't agree on the celebrations at the end of Return of the Jedi. They always seemed so out of place, especially considering the scope of the expanded universe at the time of the release of the Special Editions. It's not like the Empire just rolled over and died the moment the emperor was killed. The Rebels won a significant victory that day but the war wasn't over. The Force Awakens confirmed as much as the Battle of Jakku that basically did finally end the Empire wasn't until a year later. Depicting people celebrating on the Imperial capital world would have been like the citizens of Berlin taking to the streets to celebrate immediately after the D Day invasion.
Well, the Force Awakens wasn't even being considered yet, so Lucas wasn't aware that Disney was gonna hit a giant reset button and undo all of Luke, Leia and Han's hard work in order to continue the series.
In my opinion, that decision was worse than Greedo shooting first, the romance scenes of the prequels, AND jar jar binks.
Toa Hero that was one of the worst part about Force Awakens. The original trilogy basically meant nothing in the end. They were so focused on bringing back the good parts of the original trilogy that they failed to offer new things. Now we are BACK to an empire vs the rebels storyline for no good reason.
actually the rebels did succeed in freeing the galaxy from tyranny, with the remnants of the empire retreating far out beyond the reach of the new republic, then members of the rebel alliance became "the resistance" and went chasing after those remnants. The scene in which the first order fires their star killer cannon was them pretty much erasing all of the major planets of the new republic and sending the galaxy into disarray.
knightofficer Which was stupid. The destruction of 5 planets wouldn't automatically put the first order back in total control like they claimed. Besides, that dividing laser beam was stupid. If they had really wanted to make it look cool, they would have had the beam hi the sun, and cause a supernova.
Toa Hero they beam wasn't a laser it was a fusion weapon, they basically killed the planets with a directed nova, shooting a sun with it would basically have been like pouring a glass of water into a glass of water
Lucas will always get my thumbs up, dude created the best fictional universe in history, fuck the haters!
Lucas wrote Dune?
Lucas created Guild Wars?
Have you seen the Originals trilogy documentary "Star Wars: Empire of Dreams"
Even though it is an official Lucasfilms release it becomes pretty clear that a lot of the original iconic things about Star Wars were created inspite(!) of George Lucas!
Not saying he didn't do great stuff but we clearly saw what his "pure artistic vison" would become if nobody is there to contradict him in the Prequels!
+IAmValenwin nice joke, GW is a long way from best
daAnT1990
Doesnt mean a thing, he was in the front of the entire thing, it was his work, without him it would have been any other IP from a studio that would have been remade and thats about it!
Let's be honest, the force ghost change makes sense, and was absolutely justified. The force ghost looking nothing like the actual Anakin makes no sense, and it's obvious that if Anakin himself were to choose a form to take, it would be the one he was in the last time he was truly "Anakin Skywalker" the hero of the clone wars, powerful Jedi, opponent to the sith, symbol of hope, and most importantly the way he looked the last time he saw the love of his life.
First: he died truly Anakin Skywalker.
Second: he is a grown Jedi, not an 11- year-old girl.
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No.
It actually makes alot of sense having the stormtroopers wainting in formation in the hanger. The military will have you get into a formation for everything. Especially if your on a giant battle station the size of a moon. The ammount of men needed to act apon a prison break is not that many. You also overhear a storm trooper ask another if they know whats going on, the other replies with "its probably just another drill". With so many units being stationed on the death star and with communications not being sent down the chain of command, of course there are going to be units standing around in a formation. They wouldnt be in formation if it wasn't on high alert, they'd probably reside at their barracks or wherever their specific unit is stationed on the death star. A formation is also not just for show, its accountability.
Learn to spell moron: it's illiterate knobs like you who make TH-cam less bearable
andrew h you really have nothing better to do with your time? Do you? Sad.
You are right man. Your explanation makes a lot of sense
Archangel 717 to be fair if Star Trek IV and the Final Countdown can get away with it why not SW? More ludicrous things have happened IRL like a british officer leading a Normandy charge on D-day armed with nothing but a sword and bagpipes!
Learn history friend.And his point was that any kind of ridiculous " by our opininion ridiculous" things can happen
I agree with all of these apart from Han chasing the Storm Troopers. I can actually remember watching that at the cinema as a nine year old kid and laughing. It worked brilliantly for me that he pushed them into retreat for a few seconds by just being so confident in his charge at them, and when they click and he needs to turn tale and run, it was an hilarious character defining moment.
AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaahh... aaaaAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
mikky s - No they lead him into a trap. That's different than being at first scared to run.
I know I’m in the minority for this one, but on the topic of continuity, I actually like that they redubbed boba fett with the clone/jango actor.
Although it was kinda cool when we didn't know where he came from. He was like Clint Eastwood of Star Wars. Still is, but not as cool now honestly
I prefer the reducing as well due to my love of the clones
He sounds like a fucking sheep shagger.
killboggins racist
I think it’s cool but not necessary, just cuz accents aren’t genetically acquired
Gungan: “Weesa Free” Disney: I think not
Despite the slightly dated CGI, I really always enjoyed the Stormtroopers on Dewbacks being shown in movement rather than as obscure background pieces like they are in the original, because of how it shows the Empire adapting to all the environments they occupy.
To be fair, I don't think coruscant would have been rejoicing at all. When Hitler died, did we really hear about thunderous celebration in Berlin..?
Erikon14 yes from the Soviets.
Berlin had been under siege and been bombed into ruins, and the Soviet army raped thousands of women upon capturing it when Germany finally surrendered. Not the best comparison to draw.
Shadow Griffin exactly only the Soviets rejoiced not the Germans.
Erikon14 because in berlin the Russian were controling it. the people were hidding.
Erikon14 that's the only planet i didn't like seeing for exactly that reason. the rest are appropriate in my opinion
I actually liked the Anakin change at the end of the trilogy, it actually makes a lot of sense why he'd choose that old look as a peaceful force ghost, most notably cause it was the last look of him before he turned into Darth Vader and becoming what he should have been like (even though he never saw himself as what he should have became) instead of what he was. It also be more comforting being remember the young man he was instead of the old face he became. Also, I do like the prequels a fair bit too, and I felt mostly satisfied with what we got out of Lucas. And I'm not sure about the old fans of Star Wars, (as I was -1 years when the special edition came out) but I think they turned out mostly great, and they moved me emotionally. (of course I think the originals are still way superior to the prequels, but I think they concluded the circle well)
I don't understand why anyone who is a ghost would look old. You would think everyone would be in their prime.
and technically most of anakin died back in episode 3, while a little bit was left episode 6, so maybe it has to do when the majority of you has died.
Cleaning up the battle on Hoth. Some of the effects shots (Luke's initial attack run, being shot down, the X-Wings with the transport leaving Hoth) had some transparency issues. While it was a subtle update, it improved on an already amazing battle.
"What the future might bring" it brought the first order
Yes, a Death Star wasn't bad-ass enough. Now we've got a planet that kills stars to kill you across the galaxy.
And if you count the extended universe, as many still do and Disney might sooner or later, a lot more too.......
Wait that thing could kill outside it's solar system..how..uh did the planet move. I still don't get that how a stationary doomsday machine is threat. starsystem aren't exactly next door you knkow.
zuzoscorner
Somehow, they figured out how to make that slow read beam travel at hyper speed. Once thing I've learned long ago, is to never look for actual science in StarWars, because you won't find it. Every conceivable law of physics is broken a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
JJ F&*(^ Abrams. All most as bad as when Lucas went senile.
"Close the blast doors" was included in the 1981 version of Star Wars, along with C3POs more in-depth explanation of how to turn off the tractor beam.
It was actually in the 1977 mono mix, as well. It's completely original!
Surprised all 10 were spot on
I disagree on the celebration across the galaxy, but only because it looks bad. If they re-did it today with better looking graphics it would be fine. Or even better, cut in actual set shots with real actors.
Moonbolt Yeah some more realism to these celebration scenes would be nice, I can still appreciate the idea to make it seem grander and connect all 6 movies.
The realism is NOT having those celebrations! They wouldn't have known! The Emperor's death wasn't instantly known throughout the galaxy! And the Empire was still primarily in control. They shouldn't have had a clue yet!
two arguments. one, who says they didn't have cell phones or similar international alert services to spread news instantaneously. also most of the planetary governments were most probably not supporting the empire and could therefore unseat, for the most part anyway, the empires representatives and or the local militias who "control" the planetary governments.
Roger Samaniego Rogue One kind of proves that...And they still don't seem to have things like cell phones in The Force Awakens, so...The most high-tech things they have in communications are more akin to walkie-talkies...and VERY primitive e-mail, which only the governments seem to have(ie. the transmission of the Death Star Plans to the Rebel Alliance).
Changing yub nub to the actual celebration singing song at the end of return of the Jedi
The "Close the blast doors!" line was IN the original '77 theatrical release (at least in some theaters)...
I remember having this discussion with a friend in college (circa 1991~1992), where we each remembered scenes from the original release that were NOT in the home video versions. One that we both remembered was the "Close the blast doors, close the blast doors!... Open the blast doors, open the blast doors!"
There are other parts that I've still never seen since '77. 😕
Yep - there were several different versions distributed, some with slightly different dialog. I originally saw it in a first-run theater (that still had SenseSurround audio equpment at the time, and they used it to good effect), and the version I saw had the same line in it. It was only decades later that I learned about all the different print versions that were made back then, "tuned" to different projection and audio equipment.
+MrJest2 Yeah, I've also heard that there were different versions during its first run.
I also remember C3PO intentionally breaking something from the red droid's head, CAUSING him to fizzle, and thereby forcing Luke to buy R2-D2. C3PO saying "the next time I stick my neck out for you..." makes more sense in that context.
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In the French version, for what I know, those lines have never been deleted in the original movies.
As a 9 year old in 1979 I remember borrowing the Star Wars Story LP from my local library and playing the shit out of it till I knew the lines by heart. "Close the Blast doors" was on that record. It wasn't until I saw the 1997 SE version that I heard that line again and was transported back to '79.
Weesa FREE!
Tobius Maximus i never noticed that until this video pointed it out.
@miahbecker same. Now that movie will never be the same for me.
respect
thedys70 You can't stab me.
meesa free.
Tobius; meesa better be quick on your feet too pal...
I like how they changed the music in the final scene of Return of the Jedi. Both Yub Nub and Victory Celebration are both great pieces of music composed by John Williams and they both fit the scene, but the latter adds a very fitting somber tone to the scene. We feel sympathy for Luke having just lost his father and we also feel sad at seeing the end to one of the greatest trilogies of all time.
It's very fitting. At long last, victory! But not without its losses...
Cra22a. ckers and Cheese ewe3
I’m actually happy they added the “Weesa free” Line
Jar Jar may be annoying but the poor gungans were just chilling underwater minding their own business, its nice to see them break from the shackles of the empire too.
I pray that's a joke.
All for One
Jokes on you, It’s not
@@centurion0-199 You need to re-evaluate your life.
@@haraldemerson7496 you're dumb if a gungan triggers you that much.
Well, I mostly agree. The only other change I would applaud is the new victory celebration theme added at the end of Return of the Jedi. I have nothing against Yub nub, but it is only a good theme for a random Eewok party, definitely not for the celebration of the Empire's fall and the conclusion of one of the best trilogy ever.
The addition of Aurebesh in replacement to english was good.
Agreed, it also has a very somber tone which is fitting as the last scene we watched was Luke mourning the death of his father.
You almost had me with "Jedi Rocks" - I was a half-second away from yelling in protest. I like the new hologram scene, though I do think they should've made him look closer to his performance from "Return of the Jedi". A fan called Adywan did a great job, with his Revisited version of that moment.
There was an audio drama that expanded even further on Biggs's death. In that one, after Biggs dies, we hear Luke go "Biggs? BIGGS!!!". I think that would have been a welcome change to the special edition.
Arthus850 also, the addition of Biggs explains why Like us suddenly happy after finding out that Han is leaving
Or how about just a good old "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
In Adywan's Star Wars: A New Hope Revisited, he adds that dialog into the scene. It's powerful.
Yeah, I saw it. And he followed it with a shot of Luke looking sad. It really worked.
Mine comes from Return Of The Jedi. In the later version Darth Vader yells, "nooo....NOOO!!!!" Before he threw The Emperor down the shaft. When I first noticed it, it sent shivers down my spine, not sure why.
Me too
Him being silent is dumb and he should have said SOMETHING. Good thing Lucas fixed that
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't like this. It's just not in his character if you ask me.
The scene that has always bothered me, even the first time I saw it in 77, is the count down to the Deathstar clearing Yavin to shoot the 4th moon.. The counter on screen never matches the dialogue. In all of the changes in all of the additions it is never corrected. Irritates the hell out of me.
Yup, I've been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to make it work but it simply doesn't.
you guys pay WAAAAY too much attention to detail.
Derek Bates Or you don't pay enough attention. This has also bothered me since I was 5 and first saw the movie.
GreyRabbitMedia
it bothered you that folks don't nitpick every minor detail in a movie? Sounds like a personal problem, son.
woosh, he was talking about the scene and not about "folks nitpicking every minor detail in a movie"
Agree with the points made, but I thought that ADHD was a disorder, not a video.
RTTO Productions shit son, you should buy a mic just to drop it.
RTTO Productions Fucking destroyed damn
Fuck people with ADHD.
THE GREATEST HIGH fuck ur dumbass
No fuck you
Not gonna lie, Stormtroopers were important for comedic releif. I'm glad they had their fair share of screentime
I know you were only covering the original trilogy but on the Blu-ray version of The Phantom Menace, I was actually happy they changed the puppet Yoda into the CG Yoda of the other two films, but only because I always thought that puppet was ugly
Rift Shredder Everyone thought it was ugly
Rift Shredder yeah, why they couldn't have used the original puppet? I don't know
DogeDoggyDogg Yeah, if they brought back the original puppet, restored it to make it look new again, that would have been totally acceptable
Yoda didn't battle in Menace, he only battled in Clones & Sith. Had they restored the original puppet or made the new one to resemble the old one, they wouldn't need to change him in the first episode.
Joe Nesvick I don't know, maybe they were in a hurry to get Yoda on or maybe they didn't know how they wanted to make him look like on the movie until Attack of the Clones
Gee, tone down the literal picture references. You don't have to put 5 picture on screen to make us understand a sentence. Sure it's good if it's used moderately but this is just overkill.
Personally I like the pictures explaining sentences thing, plus it adds some great opportunities for puns. But I can see what you mean, there is a lot of that in this video.
I agree, I found it very hard to keep watching, it's a dreadful idea to use it so much.
I definetely agree on that, in my opinion it would have been better to show either more examples of the scene, or show the scene twice or at half the speed. The pictures get really annoying.
ikr I knew I wasnt the only one who noticed the overload
I'm 16 and I just realized I've never viewed the film in its original format. looks like I have to bust the vcr player out again 😂
FUCKFACE MCGEE
Why watch some grainy VHS when you have something as amazing as the internet at your disposal?
originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V25-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713
I'm 27 and have never seen the original trilogy, I know I'm a disgrace.
Look up the silver screen edition and get the really original look at star wars (a new hope)
I've never actually seen the edited version
And this is exactly why none of the changes are justified.
The additional ships in all the films was a huge plus and greatly needed. That was straight up a limitation of the time and budget back during the originally filming. Those changes make better reflect the scale and seriousness of those battles.
The changes to the speederbike chase on Endor is another one I really enjoyed that wasn't mentioned.
I find the celebration one a bit odd since my understanding was that the Empire wasn't necessarily destroyed at the end of Jedi, rather that just Emperor was killed, so wouldn't Coruscant and all the other Empire controlled planets still have stormtroopers and such on them? I'm not into Star Wars lore so maybe I'm wrong, I just couldn't see the remainder of the Empire giving up control of the whole galaxy because their leader died, surely they'd still have generals and such to take over?
You're thinking is actually spot on when it comes to the new canon of books that have come out. The Aftermath trilogy addresses what you are talking about. I won't give out too much, but the prologue of the first book shows what happened on Coruscant immediately after the celebration scene in Return of the Jedi (And it is not pretty). I'm almost finished with the 2nd novel of the trilogy. They're not bad. They aren't my favorite books so far in the new canon, but so far they have lived up to the title of Aftermath.
The Astral Fish But with most of their best leaders, including the two head honchos dead, they would be in flux, leaving them easy to take out.
The Astral Fish Yeah, it was awkward and seemed to shoehorn in ALL THE RECOGNIZABLE PLACES! Also, how do they know so quickly? I realize they have communicators, but that quickly? Yeah, right.
I wondered that after the alteration also, though passed it as a sometime in the future these places were liberated epilogue thing at least they didnt make the mistake of showing Alderaan celebrating (though it would have been funny to have a silent pause scene and floating asteroids) . usually you find when dictators are deposed that someone will try to step in and there is carnage, it is possible the rebels had operatives on some of those worlds waiting to hear the result of the attack and ready to disseminate the info or ready to trigger mini revolutions. but certainly not firework parties lol, the thing that worried me also is Anakins Force ghost shouldnt it be a lot more like the ghosts from Stardust? lol
I've never liked the change in music either
is it just me or are Star Wars fans really that fanatic and extreme when it comes to anything related to Star Wars?
Fanatic and extreme doesn't even come close to describe how sadistic and insane these fanboys are. Just the slightest mention of the Prequels, Jar Jar or even the Special Edition could trigger them in ways you can't imagine.
Samuel James Ifkr. I do like Star Wars but calm the fuck down peeplez
What do you think the word "fan" is an abbreviation of, +Samuel James ? We, uh, *they* are fanatic in every way.
+Samuel James
That question is like asking if the Pope is Catholic.
No, it's defintely true. Even these people got angry about a the existance of a Gungan in the background. Appearently Gungan-language is stupid and unneccessary but Yoda's way of speaking is iconic. Someone has to explain this to me, because it makes no sense at all!
sadley carrie fisher has moved on from earth and has becomed one with the force. may she rip.
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I’m a huge fan of Star Wars, but sorry. I had to laugh
I laughed so much too
Those random pictures all the time grind my gears
Paweł Morrison that deal is getting worse all the time!
I was actually triggered by the Jedi Rocks joke.
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I was always bothered by the change to all those cities celebrating the downfall of the Emperor. I mean, how fast does news actually travel?
and why is the capital celebrating! You figure there would be a lot of imperial loyalists there.
John Galvano lol exactly, its like all stormtroopers and generals, etc. in all those opressed cities simply vanished when emperor died 😂
why would you figure that? The majority of the galaxy was suffering and under oppression from the emperor and it's not hard to imagine the most suffering was found in the capital.
Stevean2 They show them all happening at the same time, after the emperor is killed. There's absolutely no evidence given to suggest that those clips were set days, weeks, months, or years apart.
Stevean2 The evidence is in the fact that they're cut back to back. It's basic movie logic, and if you can't understand that, then how do you follow any movie plot? One scene we see the death of the emperor, the next we get back to back cuts of celebrations across the galaxy. That's unbelievably clear that not only are they all joining together simultaneously in celebration, but that they're all celebrating the same thing, which is completely unrealistic. Naboo would have very different reasons to join together in celebration than Endor, but all we see in the movie is the battle of Endor won, which is why the Ewoks are celebrating in the first place, not the fall of the empire, not the death of the emperor, but the victory against the stormtroopers. For the humans there, the celebration was much larger, but we're given nothing to suggest anything else happened to warrant celebration on those other planets, and the cuts suggest they're happening simultaneously.
I feel like the new shot of the Millennium Falcon escaping Mos Eisley never gets enough praise. Any shot that features that ship is always awesome!
My only issue with the celebration scene was how "instantaneous" the celebrations began. There's no sense of "time" for these, so for all we know, the instant that the heroes and furballs are celebrating, all the other worlds are celebrating as well. Which, wouldn't make sense, isn't there a empire presence on the rest of planets?
gearzdesign all the high ranks were on the death Star and the big Star destroyers. the stormtroopere wouldnt really have orders or backup so they would be easy to take over, I think
Thijmen Vervaet But with Force awakens out, we see that's not entirely the case. There's still various commanders and generals out there who were likely not in the deathstar fight.
I'm not sure about that. There must be been thousands more shipd and millions more troops around the galaxy than what was seen in the battle of Endor. Even if the cream of the Imperial Navy officers died in teh battle, there must have been leadership in place in other systems.
Well, I guess you guys are right about that one then indeed. My bad :)
You are right, but these three, Naboo, Coruscant and Bespin are not ordinary planets. All three are freedom loving ones, the first two had strong bonds with the Republic, Bespin was very rebellious against the Empire. So you could assume that these would want and be able to get rid of the remaining forces as fast as they can. And it's also unclear if these events happen at the same time.
TBH the main problem here is that Lucas never released the original cuts. Cause there are people like me which didn't mind any of the changes and liked the prequels. If he released them there would be a lot of people either seeing that the changes are improvements or getting a lovely nostalgia that brings them back to when they were a kid getting that price millennium falcon. It would indefinitely fix the broken fandom which episode 7 put the tape around
Also there are worse characters than jar jar look at fucking zero the hut (I don't see the problem with him TBH)
Mad Mateo I agree and I mean however small THE some changes are Its his creation and his vision so if he wanted that rock there let him put it there. Is it really causing that much harm?
Mad Mateo I agree and I mean however small THE some changes are Its his creation and his vision so if he wanted that rock there let him put it there. Is it really causing that much harm?
Mad Mateo yeah I agree. And if you ostracise people that like the prequels doesn't that make them the inferior starwars fan? "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering"
-yoda
Define "real" Star Wars fans ? To me if you didn't see in cinemas back in 1977 you don't have the appreciation for how ground breaking that movies series was.
i also liked the change from yub nub to victory celebration, just sounds more powerful
The song is also heaps better than yub nub that just seemed outta place
My only complaint with the change is that it appears the celebration happens the same day as the death of the Emperor and the second Death Star. That seems like a very short amount of time to get word to every plant, and I imagine some planets being less exuberant than others. I realize that they could be happening at different times, but the way the cuts work it seems like it is happening at the same time as the Ewok celebration. The change in the music was great though, much more thoughtful like the future may be uncertain, but it is full of hope.
Agreed, i always thought to myself how on earth did coruscant and naboo know the empired been defeated?! but when i shut myself off to the nitpicky details, i realise how good of an ending it is :)
They all watched Fox News
+Adam Edwards This isn't the middle ages. Messengers don't travel from place to place spreading news. I'm sure with the communication and vast interstellar network they have established, spreading such huge information so quickly isn't difficult. Also they showed the more advanced plants celebrating which would undoubtedly get word quicker.
Fun fact: the original emperor was actually a woman!
And an monki
And the dialogue was superior 👍
NO it wasnt. Yes she was credited for the role, but in the final cut it wasnt actually her, but another actor.
Kathleen Kennedy?
Yeah it was KK
I have always liked the end of Return of the Jedi, when you get to see Anakin with Ben and Yoda being all ghostly and blue. It gives you hope that he was remembered for who he was, not who he became.
changeitlikearemix and vaders eyebrows when he took off helmet my god they where scary
No, anakin there is stupid. Just cus he helped look does not redeem him for fucking up EVERYTHING and giving Palpatine power.
Seems Legit it doesn't matter because he joined the light again and anikan was the last time he was in the light so it does make sense dumb ass
except luke never knew him for who he was and it makes no sense why obi wan would be old why doesn't obi wan get to be young too because luke didn't know either of them when they were young and it's luke seeing them not that retcon bullshit ghost powers
AND I'M HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN!
The original emperor wasn't even portayed by a man! :-P
Good thing they changed it
The original Emperor was portrayed by two people: The wife of legendary make-up effects guru Rick Baker and the vocalisation of Clive Revill. Chimp eyes were super imposed over Mrs Baker's eyes after.
Oh, wow. Not even a man? Woah...
that really does´nt matter....
as long as he has eyes digitally added (which was the case) you cant tell the gender of the actor
8:58 This just killed me. Great video mate.
Me: sees original Palpatine hologram. “What a terrible day to have eyes”
Changes that still are needed:
#1 The force ghost should start with old Anakin and morph into younger Anakin. Perhaps even same for Obi Wan... from Alec to Ewan.
That's...actually a neat idea.
What, like with an effect where the ghosts become pure silhouettes with no discernible features for a moment, then fade into Hayden and Ewan? Like, they start out old, then glow brighter until the light is too bright to see any features, then the glow dies down and now they're young? It sounds cool when I describe it that way, so I'd be cool with it.
Joe Keyes .
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Agreed, that's a neat idea. It's really jarring to have Anakin be inexplicably young as a ghost but not Obi-wan (or Yoda), but I do remember as a kid being SO confused when Vader's ghost showed up, because we never once see Vader look like that. If they could make the Anakin actor look older, that would probably be a good compromise I think.
My way of explaining why it's like that is, when was the last time Anakin was a Jedi. He didn't become a Jedi at the end of Ep 6. He just did the right thing. Last time he was a Jedi was Ep 3. Therefore each of them would be in their Jedi forms.
And I've seen people complain about Anakin becoming a ghost without training. He's the strongest force user in the galaxy. I'm certain there are things that come naturally to him.
i know im in a minority but i always liked the change at the end of Jedi when luke sees the force ghosts. Taking out shaw and replacing it with Christianson was a nice touch
You're in the minority because that change makes no sense.
Dain Laguna it makes complete sense when watching the third movie
But then why isn't Obi-Wan replaced with Ewan McGregor?
The in-canon explanation is that the force spirits take on their pre-turn selves if they ever went to the dark side.
But it never made sense. Why did Anakin's character revert to his appearance from his 20's? Obi Wan didn't turn back into Ewan McGregor. And you could argue that they reverted to their "jedi forms," but Vader redeemed himself before death, so Shaw WOULD have been the correct actor. I don't know how to make sense of it other than Lucas can never stop sticking his fingers in the cookie dough.
Welcome to the military standing in a bay or hanger for hours because an officer said to. I feel their pain
The base is on high alert, off duty stormtroopers get in armor and report to bay 16 for briefing.
2 hours later, briefing begins.
We suspect that there were enemy agents loose on the Death Star, while you stood around here doing nothing they escaped.
As long as they only work 8 hours a day that's honestly not so bad considering the financial security and endless benefits from both the people's taxes what private businesses offer...
Get on the bus, get off the bus. Hurry up and wait. Anyone who's even dipped their toe into the military will know about this.
Well, that's how they roll in the Empire, LOL
they were in the middle of a safety stand down.
can't miss those, even if the station is under attack.
"don't kill yourselves, not that you can hit anything anyways."
"don't rape people, again, not that you can 'hit' anything anyways."
I'd like to add the change to the music of the end of Return of the Jedi. Yub Nub, while adorable, sure wasn't the powerful ending it deserved, and John Williams re-scoring the finale was just perfect. It is by far, MY most important change.
My favorite part of the added Wampa footage was when he yelled "COOKIE" right before he knocked Luke off his Tauntaun lol
Most of the "celebration" scenes made absolutely no sense. The tatooine one, for example... that's the worst offender. Tatooine is in Hutt space, and it's not even a part of the Empire OR the Rebel Alliance. People there would just have minded their own business. Naboo was the homeworld of Palpatine, so I strongly doubt there would have been an instantaneous gunganbang for his demise. Also, Coruscant... rebellions and leaders' deaths don't work that way. Coruscant would have been in UPHEAVAL after receiving the news about Palpatine's death. Remember that he had removed the senate and so, as most other worlds, it was probably under the direct control of an imperial governor. Any attempt at throwing parties and celebrations for the Emperor's death would probably have been repressed with force. It wasn't like: the death star II has been destroyed, the Emperor's dead... we're all New Republicans now. War could have realistically have dragged on for decades.
It's Star Wars. Star Wars: Nerd Domain. Nerd Domain=Overthinking things.
+Bryan Mack
Instead of calling any thought at all _"overthinking"'_, you could just ask people to stop thinking in a whole. But its not like this makes more sense though. Most people like to be human, you know?
I think by "hutt space" you mean the outer rim, anyways you´re right, tatooine wouldn't even have a way to receive info from other parts of the galaxy!
Aurex One eeny flaw in your argument; all of the galaxy was claimed & dominated by the Empire. The outer rim territories were too far away from the center core to be properly under the Empire's thumb. Like in real life, the farther you are from the seat of government, the less direct influence the government can exercise on the outposts. The hutts exploited that well like all organized crime tends to do, but make no mistake; if they created too many headaches for the Empire, they would've been zorched.
After all that, a simpler observation; no ruthless kleptocracy would've tolerated interference from an outside source willingly. Why then were the stormtroopers allowed total freedom on a planet not claimed by the Empire?
+Scot Carr Yes, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's clear that the Empire had some jurisdiction even there, the Hutt didn't care at all about two missing droid, and even if they did... they would probably not have gotten involved. They just cared about their own business, slavery, smuggling and all. I think the reason the stormtroopers were given complete freedom in their search might have been because the Hutt (that are, at least in the now non-canon extended universe, VERY involved in galactic affairs with a rather extensive espionage network) knew about the droids, possibly about the death star and could have simply took them (or tried to.) But they probably weren't willing to go to war over that, since a cartel like theirs can survive as long as it manages to stay behind the scenes. I'm not even sure they had a fleet of their own on Nal Hutta. But again, between the new canon and legends from the extended universe... who knows.