I'd work in slabyard as oh crane operator for 15 yrs and i dont get any headache from my work the only problem are the people you're working with they give you more than headache...😤😤😤
@@daddyfatsakz98 The layout is bad. The old RD controllers are actually sturdier and more reliable than the new stuff. Liked them a lot more than the new ones. The motion you want for control is that your arm moves like it does when you punch. This is a strong motion for your arm and gives you the most control. Arm movement from your waist out to one side is a weak movement and has less control. The other problem with this arrangement is that the controls are spread out. This makes the driver search around for the control. Most noticeable with the gripper control on the far right of the cab (4:10 4:30). All the controls should be in line with one another and all throw away and toward the driver. For controls that are too far away an upside down L handle will bring the knob closer. The other thing you have here is an engineer who thought that drivers wouldn't be able to learn what the controls did so put a controller sideways so it corresponded with the resulting direction on movement. this resulted in large arm movements and slow response times.
I worked with your Dad. Very sad to hear about his passing. He was a pretty cool cat. He passed shortly after I had left AK. Actually, the crane in this video was his favorite crane.
Looks like a tedious job, although at the same time I imagine it gives a feeling of power to operate a massive sky hook which manipulates big iron like it was nothing.
Yea, It kinda does give you that feeling. Especially when you make a perfect lift lol. From my view,you cannt see how many slabs you were picking up. you had to get the ''feel for it'' There is supposed to be someone on the ground directing you but most the time,it was on us.
@@jawadibrahim2367 Great question. All of the slabs we made are 8'' thick, they just very in length. Always center your lift. The problem us operators would sometimes have was the make/grade of the steel (High Carbon was hard to get a bite) or with the sides of the slabs. Some sides would be concave and others convex. Basically the sides would either look like below. (===Slabs===) or )===Slabs===( The problem slabs were the ones on the left (correct positioning of parentheses). The Right side (backward parentheses) are the easier to grab because you can really dig into the slabs. Especially if they're still glowing red hot. In the winter, it's bad with the ice. When we would bring in hot slabs, still glowing red from being cast. The snow that has been on the stack next to the new, hot steel begins to melt and then that freezes. The feeling I was talking about was that feeling when you make a lift, everything feels just👌...solid bite, no jerks or noises=👍 Soild lift. But I've had slabs just slip out for no good reason too. Once I was waiting for the other operator or whatever while I had 4 slabs all over 25ft long, just drop out. It shakes the cab of the crane hard! Very hard.
@@di734on thank you very much for the detailed and beautifully illustrated reply, this is pure gold. The shape of the sides of the slabs varied by how they were rolled in the mill (assuming they are hot rolled bars), right? Do they come with a convex or concave side by design or is just a random product of the rolling operation?
@@jawadibrahim2367 No problem! The sides of the slabs from what I know are made to be as flat (straight up & down) as possible. The slabs are then re-heated and ran through the Hot Strip Mill. AK closed the Hot Strip in Dearborn, MI shortly after I left. Now the slabs are made in Detroit and sent to Middletown, Ohio be ran through their Hot strip. Their HSM runs better, can run wider slabs and its just efficient for them to do it like that. When they re-heat the slabs to a glowing red they are pushed out of the Furnace onto the line. As it is pushed down the line, giant rollers they apply pressure to flatten it. The further it goes down the line, the more pressure is applied to make it as thin as the customer requests. They'll take a 30ft slab that's 8'' thick, 40'' wide and turn it into a 2500ft coil. Taking it from 8'' thick to 1/32 . I have another video on my page with the front facing view. I am looking for my Hot strip video now.
dang..ya kinda gotta look for the controls..the cranes i ran the controls were up on a pedestal about where your knees are but up higher and rest your elbows to operate and let your hand do the smooth operating not your entire arm...just saying bro..be safe always first
I've operated a very small crane but this is wild can't imagine how long that training was and how long did it take you to get comfortable and then confident, Krazy impressive
The training is sub-par to say the least lol. It's really all about learning what it feels like when you have a good bite on something. You can feel whether you have it or not. It was always a little nerve racking when you first take a seat. The weather plays a big role too. If it's raining or snowing everything is slippery. I have other videos on my channel from other pov's.
@@di734on no.. the lever for the tongs is far to the left.. I'm talking about horizontal movement and hoist. That looks uncomfortable to be working like that all day. Mine are almost by my knees or at the very least half thigh
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Been in the mills for 20 yrs now. Crane operators are always pissed lol. It's a special skill set/talent required for it.
Sittin on a bag of chips, gatorade leaning on the windshield, downing a red bull while swearing and cussing🤣🤣🤣
I'd work in slabyard as oh crane operator for 15 yrs and i dont get any headache from my work the only problem are the people you're working with they give you more than headache...😤😤😤
Interesting & cool to watch, thanks for providing this footage!
I drove O/H crane for 25 years. This is the worst control layout I have ever seen.
Funny shit what makes it so bad is it ancient or shitty placement of the control layout???
@@daddyfatsakz98 The layout is bad. The old RD controllers are actually sturdier and more reliable than the new stuff. Liked them a lot more than the new ones. The motion you want for control is that your arm moves like it does when you punch. This is a strong motion for your arm and gives you the most control. Arm movement from your waist out to one side is a weak movement and has less control. The other problem with this arrangement is that the controls are spread out. This makes the driver search around for the control. Most noticeable with the gripper control on the far right of the cab (4:10 4:30). All the controls should be in line with one another and all throw away and toward the driver. For controls that are too far away an upside down L handle will bring the knob closer. The other thing you have here is an engineer who thought that drivers wouldn't be able to learn what the controls did so put a controller sideways so it corresponded with the resulting direction on movement. this resulted in large arm movements and slow response times.
Really cool to see! My Dad David Bousquette loved the crane
I worked with your Dad. Very sad to hear about his passing. He was a pretty cool cat. He passed shortly after I had left AK. Actually, the crane in this video was his favorite crane.
@@di734on I’ve heard him talk about “his” crane 😂
@@Lauren-ve2lt That's the one 👍🏻
AK Middletown?
@@black07rr No. This is the Detroit location
I am crane operator too
That is good job ~
I'm an overhead cranemen and a steel mill...yeah, fuck those controls. Ours (depending on crane) are all above us, or right in front of us
i like your video it was coll
Looks like a tedious job, although at the same time I imagine it gives a feeling of power to operate a massive sky hook which manipulates big iron like it was nothing.
Yea, It kinda does give you that feeling. Especially when you make a perfect lift lol. From my view,you cannt see how many slabs you were picking up. you had to get the ''feel for it'' There is supposed to be someone on the ground directing you but most the time,it was on us.
@@di734on that's pretty cool, is this feel you talk about related to how the handling changes with different mass of slabs?
@@jawadibrahim2367 Great question. All of the slabs we made are 8'' thick, they just very in length. Always center your lift. The problem us operators would sometimes have was the make/grade of the steel (High Carbon was hard to get a bite) or with the sides of the slabs. Some sides would be concave and others convex. Basically the sides would either look like below.
(===Slabs===) or )===Slabs===(
The problem slabs were the ones on the left (correct positioning of parentheses).
The Right side (backward parentheses) are the easier to grab because you can really dig into the slabs. Especially if they're still glowing red hot.
In the winter, it's bad with the ice. When we would bring in hot slabs, still glowing red from being cast. The snow that has been on the stack next to the new, hot steel begins to melt and then that freezes.
The feeling I was talking about was that feeling when you make a lift, everything feels just👌...solid bite, no jerks or noises=👍 Soild lift. But I've had slabs just slip out for no good reason too.
Once I was waiting for the other operator or whatever while I had 4 slabs all over 25ft long, just drop out. It shakes the cab of the crane hard! Very hard.
@@di734on thank you very much for the detailed and beautifully illustrated reply, this is pure gold.
The shape of the sides of the slabs varied by how they were rolled in the mill (assuming they are hot rolled bars), right? Do they come with a convex or concave side by design or is just a random product of the rolling operation?
@@jawadibrahim2367 No problem!
The sides of the slabs from what I know are made to be as flat (straight up & down) as possible. The slabs are then re-heated and ran through the Hot Strip Mill. AK closed the Hot Strip in Dearborn, MI shortly after I left. Now the slabs are made in Detroit and sent to Middletown, Ohio be ran through their Hot strip.
Their HSM runs better, can run wider slabs and its just efficient for them to do it like that.
When they re-heat the slabs to a glowing red they are pushed out of the Furnace onto the line. As it is pushed down the line, giant rollers they apply pressure to flatten it. The further it goes down the line, the more pressure is applied to make it as thin as the customer requests.
They'll take a 30ft slab that's 8'' thick, 40'' wide and turn it into a 2500ft coil. Taking it from 8'' thick to 1/32 . I have another video on my page with the front facing view. I am looking for my Hot strip video now.
Damn son, some solid work. You gotta drink more water though. How do you take a leak on that thing?
Great question. Always, Always bring up a couple wide mouth Gatorades 😉
dang..ya kinda gotta look for the controls..the cranes i ran the controls were up on a pedestal about where your knees are but up higher and rest your elbows to operate and let your hand do the smooth operating not your entire arm...just saying bro..be safe always first
I've operated a very small crane but this is wild can't imagine how long that training was and how long did it take you to get comfortable and then confident, Krazy impressive
The training is sub-par to say the least lol. It's really all about learning what it feels like when you have a good bite on something. You can feel whether you have it or not. It was always a little nerve racking when you first take a seat. The weather plays a big role too. If it's raining or snowing everything is
slippery. I have other videos on my channel from other pov's.
bruh that lever on the far left is placed in a way that is meant to be missed every time you reach for it XD
I know right! That's the lever to open/close the tongs. It's not bad after you get use to it. Just kinda reaching out and back over and over 🙄
Also.. the placement of the levers to operate seems like a pain in the back. They should be where you'd hold your hands more natural, not so far back
@@Alex-ie2hn The lever for the tongs, is set a little too far back, agreed. These Cranes were setup in the late 70's lol
@@di734on no.. the lever for the tongs is far to the left.. I'm talking about horizontal movement and hoist. That looks uncomfortable to be working like that all day. Mine are almost by my knees or at the very least half thigh
@@Alex-ie2hn Ahh... Ya, the bridge levers are on the left and trolley on the right
Radio seems a bit uncomfortable to use.
It was a pain at first. If it would rain or get wet, you were fucked.
@5:57 lol