ChatGPT vs Claude for Writing in 2024

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  • @davidwright6839
    @davidwright6839 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I've also compared Claude 3.5 Sonnet with all the other LLMs and find it works best for developing screenplays. I've been especially impressed by how well it can improve dialog using a couple prompt tricks. First, I created documents summarizing the most important points from Robert McKee's book, Dialog, and added this to the knowledge base. Second, I create a system prompt that specifies, "You are a god-tier screenplay writer with special skill at creating emotional and musical dialog at the level of Paddy Chayefsky, Robert Towne, Billy Wilder, Christopher Nolan, and Aaron Sorkin." By adding these names to the prompt, the LLM zooms in on the associated concept space within the model, raising the probability of certain word choices and associations. When I have Claude rewrite existing scenes with alternative dialog, it frequently produces higher-quality dialog that can be cherry-picked and added to the script. It is important to also develop detailed character descriptions and backstories for the characters and add these to the project knowledge base to further narrow the space of word choices made by the LLM.

    • @ActionFalko
      @ActionFalko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great tip. Thank you

    • @karmapolice3335
      @karmapolice3335 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hi sir, can you please share the summarized document and what are the command prompts you use, so that i can convert them to my language, i do not write in english

    • @pixlives
      @pixlives 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Precious, thanks!

  • @LivE-cs6cd
    @LivE-cs6cd 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cool info, just what I needed .

  • @MoshiMoshiMea
    @MoshiMoshiMea หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video! It answered the main questions I had regarding the pause versions of Claude and GPT. Really appreciate it!

  • @davidjacques
    @davidjacques 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At 14:39 you have a typo. "For a standar length novel" (standar instead of standard). 😅 Just thought I'd point it out. No worries, it doesn't affect your credibility, the usefulness of your videos or how much they are appreciated. If anything, it makes them more human! Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work!

  • @imtiyazmavliwala3524
    @imtiyazmavliwala3524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Which one is better at academic writing?

  • @mytopfivechannel3240
    @mytopfivechannel3240 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If writing is subjective; how do you conclude what is correct and what is just a writing style. What benchmark do you follow?

  • @yahyag
    @yahyag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man! Really in-depth and great use-case scenarios. Thank you!

  • @tonystedt8528
    @tonystedt8528 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for another great video. Why not just use the paid version of Perplexity in writing mode? You get access to both GPT4o and Claude3.5 sonnet plus a bunch of other models. And then, as you mentioned, you have the internet capabilities that are really great, with good source referencing.

  • @wl97
    @wl97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’ve always preferred Claude for writing; in fact, I’m currently drafting a novel with the platform. However, I recently started using the paid version and was disappointed that it still throttles your output at some point.

    • @yasin6904
      @yasin6904 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yh the limitations on Claude Pro are pretty ridiculous. Very frustrating

    • @mannyh6277
      @mannyh6277 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      when it starts to warn that you're reaching limit, I ask it to generate a comprehensive prompt summarising the entire conversation and use it to start a new thread. I usually put the content it has generated so far into the project knowledge base. Works okay for me that way.

    • @spydergs07
      @spydergs07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mannyh6277 That's exactly what I do.
      I've been able to stretch my limits MUCH further by starting a new one with a summary.
      I can typically get 3-4 hours of writing and prompts and stuff before getting a warning.

    • @LevelUpLifeTipsShorts
      @LevelUpLifeTipsShorts หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know, I hope they change it ...

    • @baltazar1939
      @baltazar1939 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mannyh6277 Thanks broh, In case you have tried another AI, like copilot, you know if it works?

  • @igorbetternower7800
    @igorbetternower7800 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really interesting videos, thanks for all your work! And not so nerdy I would say !

  • @LGeeThomas
    @LGeeThomas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like Claude.. it is clean. I love that it separates it and easy to copy paste.. but limited.. no images like ChatGPT and I even asked it to help write a book on the rise and fall of a gang leader and it refused to take part in writing a book on that topic…it is amazing for writing ebooks.. clean UI and easy to access the info.. ChatGPT does images, has not (at least yet) refused to write anything… but it is a pain to copy info to get it off of there, it grabs everything between prompts, I don’t always want it all

    • @LevelUpLifeTipsShorts
      @LevelUpLifeTipsShorts หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such a shame the chat bots are so weak, it's a good concept for a book - these bots need to grow some guts and get themselves dirty! :)

  • @consciousdancespace
    @consciousdancespace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for great videos. I am a beginner at book writing and want to understand why use software such as novelcrafter when it seems Claude 3 does the writing quite well enough. Do you have any videos that answer this very simplistic question? Thank you

    • @trollface-editzzz
      @trollface-editzzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To avoid repetitive scenes and organize character

  • @cuentadeyoutube5903
    @cuentadeyoutube5903 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to see what they both do with your feedback. Claude is really good at iterating and improving on feedback (from my experience on other areas)

  • @WingedHawkKAppaloosa
    @WingedHawkKAppaloosa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! thank you

  • @janusdk
    @janusdk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great! I’m a huge fan of Claude, but curious about Gemini. Could be interesting to include it in a future comparison.

  • @slackerpope
    @slackerpope 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent quality video. Exactly what I wanted to know at the perfect level of depth. Love your channel. Thank You!

  • @Dr.RajivSinghal
    @Dr.RajivSinghal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For your support

  • @just_another_mike_2025
    @just_another_mike_2025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you do more videos on nonfiction? And non fiction tools?

  • @WebFanNY
    @WebFanNY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jason, I decided to re-write the previous comment from this morning. I started reading your new book I got in Amazon, I had to pause reading it for days after your introduction on chapter about your journey. That mental block you had and overcame was just nerves. Glad to know you moved past it.
    I'll resume reading it after I finish my current Kindle book, Alejo Carpentier's The Age of Enlightenment (error in here edited out) and your book will be next!

    • @alvarobaltaxar9128
      @alvarobaltaxar9128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Kiss of the Spiderwoman, that's Manuel Puig's book!

    • @WebFanNY
      @WebFanNY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alvarobaltaxar9128 OMG, you are right! I think I got that confusion off my Amazon recommendations when looking for Carpentier's books it added in other Latin-American writers like Garcia Marquez' and Puig's 'Boquitas Pintadas' which I'm getting too. Thanks @alvarobaltaxar9128, I edited out the author error above. I read Carpentier's El Reino de Este Mundo when I was around 11 years old in 1972 and Puig's Boquitas Pintadas when I was like 18 or 19 years old and saw the play in NYC with Chita Rivera as lead. When I found these old books of my youth in Amazon a month ago, I jumped off my seat.

    • @alvarobaltaxar9128
      @alvarobaltaxar9128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow, nice. I'm from Argentina, so that's my advantage! We are drilled in school with these books. Btw, every single book from Puig is an absolute gem. Enjoy!

  • @clvanliew
    @clvanliew 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel yesterday and I'm really excited! I've been trying to figure out some tools to make my writing more efficient (and honestly more fun) and at the same time mix in some of the intermedial level AI work I've been doing.
    I do have a question though. Which do you think is a better fit, a fine tuned OpenAI model or Claude 3.5? I have a project brewing that I want to test the AI out on.

    • @supernerdinc5214
      @supernerdinc5214 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For writing, Claude.

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Claude. It mimics style pretty well and follows directions way more than a fine tune. At least for now.

  • @KaterinaFerrara
    @KaterinaFerrara 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks ❤

  • @TerryVogelaar
    @TerryVogelaar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I do prefer Claude. However, I don't like that they not only limit the free version, but also the paid version has a limit. I believe it is around 20 prompts per 6 hours, but it doesn't seem to be consistent.

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s a minimum of 20 prompts. I get only 20 if I’m using a beefy model and a beefy prompt, like transcribing an image or including a whole books worth of text in the context window. Most of the time I get WAY more.

    • @TerryVogelaar
      @TerryVogelaar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheNerdyNovelist Ah, that's probably it! I made a "project" with a draft of my book as project knowledge. That's when I encountered that limit. Thanks for clarifying!

    • @carsongabriel1949
      @carsongabriel1949 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed same here I have the paid version and I hate the limitations

    • @cortomaltese5545
      @cortomaltese5545 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're right. I am a pro user but I always run out of limits. Although I love it, I am thinking about switching back to GPT Plus.

  • @tke-nationupsilonpi9544
    @tke-nationupsilonpi9544 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video where you compare the quick fine tuned versions. You did a video where you gave Claude context to do a quick fine tune. Can you do that for both GPT 4.0 & new Claude 3.5. Thanks

  • @RetifsAiStories
    @RetifsAiStories 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Started to look at Claude a bit more, I prefer the Claude prose, Chatgpt can be a little to « emphatic » or talkative or repeating itself more. But Claude has a lot of limitations in the number of requests per day I think…

    • @Pyriold
      @Pyriold 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you use it via openrouter you pay per use, no limitations at all, and it's probably cheaper anyways.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      im always telling chatgpt to quit yapping and just give me exactly the info im asking for. instead it wanted to re-iterate half the damn project. you have to say "keep it brief" in every single prompt if you want it to quit yapping.

    • @RetifsAiStories
      @RetifsAiStories 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chrishayes5755 Yes, I also ask Claude to be "concise", it seems to do the trick more easily than with ChatGPT, I will try the "keep it brief" approach, thanks !

    • @RetifsAiStories
      @RetifsAiStories 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pyriold good tip, thanks

  • @MindSnackBar
    @MindSnackBar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a perplexity vs Gemini on all things that have to do with the Internet? 🙏🏼

  • @MikeG-js1jt
    @MikeG-js1jt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The model speeds are really so close among most of the models where it makes little difference to many use cases...

  • @AA-nx8ki
    @AA-nx8ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is claude 2.0 and 2.1 still available? Thanks

    • @Sindigo-ic6xq
      @Sindigo-ic6xq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why would anyone need these

    • @AA-nx8ki
      @AA-nx8ki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better prose mimicking of ones own prose by the model

  • @bstuartTI
    @bstuartTI 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a way to increase my limit of my pro claude account? I've been told I might have to use the API for unlimited pay-as-you go... i'm tired of having to wait 5 hours. I have a lot of context with my prompts, so it eats up a lot... any advice on how to use the API for writing assistants?

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The API or OpenRouter are your best bet.

  • @Hakai00_
    @Hakai00_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny you mention how all of this is subjective, everything you were saying you didn’t like was everything I love reading in just about every book lol so the wildly dramatic outputs would have been perfect for me lol

  • @varcmicente
    @varcmicente 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is claude godo for scriptwriting?

  • @ThunderStruck15
    @ThunderStruck15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you keep claude from like foreshadowing at the end of every prompt? Or like "gather round kids, we're summarizing all the last prompt!" It's so annoying.

  • @MrArdytube
    @MrArdytube 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like claude opus for writing

  • @ActionFalko
    @ActionFalko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just on a side note. I was shocked how much gpt 4o CRUSHES Sonnet 3.5 in math

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based on the findings out there I’m not surprised.

    • @ActionFalko
      @ActionFalko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheNerdyNovelist I did some tests with really tough exercises from math olympiades. Sonnet had no clue. 4o just solved it.

  • @penoyer79
    @penoyer79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for writing prose, AI, in general, still has a long way to go.

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not as much as you’d think. As long as your prompt is good.

  • @carsongabriel1949
    @carsongabriel1949 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer Claude opus for writing

  • @themadoneplays7842
    @themadoneplays7842 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah but claude doesnt like my stories, I am writing about warfare and chatGPT can be bypassed whereas claude gets mad at a papercut

  • @KenDoll4756
    @KenDoll4756 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the fact that ChatGPT has a memory. When writing ChatGPT actually remembers your writing style, your likes and dislikes when editing. Has full recall of past writing across different threads! Claude has literally nothing and you constantly have to open new threads which means you are constantly reexplaining the details of your story, writing style, characters… basically everything. I feel just based the memory feature ChatGPT is better!

  • @Dr.RajivSinghal
    @Dr.RajivSinghal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best paid for puzzles

  • @Dr.RajivSinghal
    @Dr.RajivSinghal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love u

  • @Justise
    @Justise 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OPenAI is dead to the consumer market. They only care about government contracts now. They do a ton of hype and everyone else is speeding past them in actual released product.

  • @wtvhdentertainmentpro6064
    @wtvhdentertainmentpro6064 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First!

  • @BrandonMichaels-we9vn
    @BrandonMichaels-we9vn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The free plan only offers Claude 3.5 Haiku, its useless at writing stories, a 15 year old could do better. No way to test the later models on the free plan, and I am not getting a subscription just to test, so I have no idea what it can do and if its a good product for me. So thats a lost customer.

  • @Donquixote-qv7sp
    @Donquixote-qv7sp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I switched to Claude because ChatGPT had a very difficult time parsing out a text file according to some set parameters.

  • @bronzemoontr
    @bronzemoontr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    chatgtp is always better ...

    • @cbnewham_ai
      @cbnewham_ai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it is not.

  • @trashstratum
    @trashstratum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your audio is noticably more 'muddy' than most other channels I watch. sounds sorta like your voice is being projected through your chest rather than your mouth. not sure if it's your mic or something with post-processing, but there's no upper range or it's too bassy

  • @monsterclass
    @monsterclass 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Both suck. read more, write more.

    • @ThunderStruck15
      @ThunderStruck15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What a pointless comment. What claude does is a first draft. I've seen human made first drafts that are in far worse condition than a claude written novel. It's not the end point, it's the start.

    • @CaliFinestDemon
      @CaliFinestDemon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No they don't. AI is good and it's here to stay and it's only getting better and you hate that hahaha. Get ready for Opus 3.5, a new level begins.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you're right you'll outshine the competition. objective reality will let you know.

  • @ThunderStruck15
    @ThunderStruck15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you keep claude from like foreshadowing at the end of every prompt? Or like "gather round kids, we're summarizing all the last prompt!" It's so annoying.

    • @TheNerdyNovelist
      @TheNerdyNovelist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Usually if I have a complex prompt I will just ask it not to and that helps. If it still is there I will just chop it off and move on to the next section.