Maurice Ravel - 3 Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé

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  • @AndrewRudin
    @AndrewRudin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Gide said: "Mallarme is untranslatable. Even into French." But I think Ravel has done it. These are incredible.

  • @labemolmineur
    @labemolmineur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That.was.incredible.
    I am so sad to be back down on earth.

  • @charlesmchugh8811
    @charlesmchugh8811 8 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    So delicate and subtle. I can't think of a single Ravel piece that I don't like. Reportedly, Debussy once said about Ravel that he had the best ear. I think that too. His sense of balance and color is so perfect. Whether he's dealing with these subtle songs or Daphnis et Chloe, he's always in complete control and everything is heard (and that's not easy). Thanks for the upload.

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      +Charles McHugh Perhaps the one piece I don't really like is his Bolero, but I agree that usually he is just great.

    • @charlesmchugh8811
      @charlesmchugh8811 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      +olla-vogala Ha ha. Yes, Bolero. I've avoided that piece so long that I didn't think of it until you mentioned it. That's a "gimmick" piece I guess.But the orchestration is still fine. And come to think of it, what about the Shostakovich Symphony No. 7. Bartok even parodied that in his Concerto for Orchestra. Well, frankly, I'm a lover, I accept those Ravel and Shostakovich pieces too even if they're not as good as L'enfant et les Sortileges or the Tenth Symphony.

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, the Bolero is a 'bestseller' piece if you wish, and as with all such, I've always had problems with it. It was hard to listen to, let alone enjoy it, as it was with Für Elise, Canon in D and such. Mostly because of their omnipresence. But, as I matured and started gaining objectiveness in music, it came into my sight why exactly are those pieces still 'bestsellers', and quality indeed is one of the reasons. It's a shame, though, that society in its greed tends to spoil everything arts can offer. I'm not really in love with Bolero, I can't stand Canon in D, Für Elise triggers my gag reflex, but I can't deny the beauty, pensiveness and simplicity that they had originally offered. Just a late thought.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hipster.

    • @handoverthegroj
      @handoverthegroj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He composed Bolero as an experiment in to the world of the machine. It was intended to be an image of a factory, hence the repetitive rhythms and mechanical nature of its structure, I don't think he ever intended it to be his most famous work and it's sad that that is how most people know him and the rest of his output is the in my opinion pretty much the best music has to offer
      :)

  • @evanottervanger5394
    @evanottervanger5394 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The second poem is absolutely stunning

  • @GenesisProgressive72
    @GenesisProgressive72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I never imagined such sounds could be pulled out of a string quartet

    • @virtuousvibes2852
      @virtuousvibes2852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      somehow, harmonics are just one of the most beautiful things that a violin could ever bring out

    • @jacobtapianieto9655
      @jacobtapianieto9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ravel was indeed a real artisan on his craft, both as a composer and as an orchestrator.

  • @Nanananaheyhey1
    @Nanananaheyhey1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This was so interesting and different than anything I've heard by Ravel

    • @queraltvivocasanovas
      @queraltvivocasanovas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kevin Bailey this is the greatest work by Ravel along with The Chansons Madécasses

    • @Magnet12
      @Magnet12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know it sounds Alien and transcendent, like Scriabin

  • @CRCVDE
    @CRCVDE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Rehearsing this now at the moment. concert is this Sunday. I really hope I won't cry on stage. Especially at 2:17

    • @tao5143
      @tao5143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah. How did it go, bro?

  • @simonkawasaki4229
    @simonkawasaki4229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I cannot put in words how much I love this, so I will not try. All I will say is that Ravel is quickly becoming one of my favorite composers. 2:36

  • @kanjuro8926
    @kanjuro8926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't know how the country I was born and where I live in produced such a sophisticated genius. I can't relate to this

  • @nicholasemerson3155
    @nicholasemerson3155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Such a gorgeous textures with voice and strings.

  • @fernie51296
    @fernie51296 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is just incredible.

  • @tanquereychris8388
    @tanquereychris8388 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    one of ravels masterpiece !!! not played enough unhappilly!!

    • @Wkkbooks
      @Wkkbooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      should never be played unhappily!

  • @johnpablorojas4393
    @johnpablorojas4393 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this will be what i cite as inspiration until i die. what a masterpiece

  • @kniazigor2276
    @kniazigor2276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tout Ravel est contenu dans ces 3 poèmes, véritables chefs-d'oeuvre à l'instar de "L'enfant et les sortilèges"

  • @Rhythmmical
    @Rhythmmical 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is Ravel, so of course I love this after the first few notes. And that haunting third piece ending!

  • @luisarmenta1849
    @luisarmenta1849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    this was made when he lived with stravinsky
    stravinsky said in his book conversations that this is his favorite piece ravel made

    • @jeremy8473
      @jeremy8473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stravinsky and Ravel living together? What a duo

    • @hauthot287
      @hauthot287 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremy8473they worked on an orchestration for khovamshchina by Mussorgsky together

  • @ОлегШарков-э1ш
    @ОлегШарков-э1ш 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Хотел послушать несколько секунд , но не смог оторваться и дослушал всё до конца . Неземная музыка , просто чудо !!!

  • @mofumofutenngoku
    @mofumofutenngoku ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is unbelievable. Every time I listen to ravel or any other of the great composers I am dumbfounded that these pieces of music exist in the same realm or dimension as we do.

    • @Magnet12
      @Magnet12 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would you know what exists in the other dimensions?

  • @franckcoinchelin9862
    @franckcoinchelin9862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Magie musicale ..

  • @harryandruschak2843
    @harryandruschak2843 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful. Cannot remember ever hearing this before.

  • @NanaKwame96
    @NanaKwame96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magical. Otherworldly.

  • @federicozimerman8167
    @federicozimerman8167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    uplifting music great for breakfast on a sunny day

  • @didierclot5331
    @didierclot5331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quelle beauté parfaite bravo

  • @egapnala65
    @egapnala65 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Apparently inspired by Schoenberg's "Pierrot Lunaire" which Ravel hoped to bring to Paris in 1913. The war intervened.

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hauntingly beautiful.

  • @HarDiMonPetit
    @HarDiMonPetit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subtle whispering splendor! Thanks for uploading!

  • @fisherroastedpeanut
    @fisherroastedpeanut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very colorful

  • @TheChazzyC
    @TheChazzyC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first poem. Wow.

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Three poems by Maalarmé, the leader of the hermetic poets in France, are among the most advanced works of Maurice Ravel. He had hearsd of "Pierrot Lunaire" of Schoenberg" but never heard it nior read the sccre, not easily available at that time. So, here is no direct influence except the idea of the small orchestral set of instruments. and the idea of going as far as possible in his own harmonic language, which is always tinal. Raval ever used the atonality but went very far in hte tonal language up to chordal regions rhat are difficult to classify. . The vocal melodic line id typical from the composer, with often a modal flavour.

    • @klaussimon3807
      @klaussimon3807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Gérard, Ravel was also influenced by Strawinsky who wrote short before Trois Poèmes de la lyrique japonaise for the same forces. It’s also a incredible good piece!! He visited Strawinsky in Clarens and composed there Soupir.

  • @delphineg3045
    @delphineg3045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est très beau, merci!

  • @limrc1
    @limrc1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Dear Universe, please give us more Ravels!! Who could be the reincarnation of Ravel? Thanks for sharing!

    • @MultiDansk8
      @MultiDansk8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am, just give me a sec I will upload my pieces...

    • @axxentgaming8435
      @axxentgaming8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I actually feel some Toru Takemitsu vibe in this Ravel's Piece. You can check him out if you want.

    • @KinkyLettuce
      @KinkyLettuce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heres a name for you: Guillaume Connesson
      Hes a contemporary French composer. While his name isnt quite as "big" as other guys in the game(like Ades), his take on orchestration is highly praised by conductors and critics, and said to be absolutely on par with Ravel's intricacy

    • @Scriabin_fan
      @Scriabin_fan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Luis Muñoz I love Marsalis’ violin concerto

    • @SuChanSangComposer
      @SuChanSangComposer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KinkyLettuce I just discovered this composer thanks to your comment. I am so glad I did, amazing music!!!

  • @queraltvivocasanovas
    @queraltvivocasanovas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the information on the description of the video:)

  • @jeremy8473
    @jeremy8473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2nd movement is beautiful

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sublime !!!

  • @_wade_morgan
    @_wade_morgan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This piece is the definition of impressionism

  • @chaophray
    @chaophray 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Am I going deaf or is the volume of this upload quite low?

    • @lunchmind
      @lunchmind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      very low.
      you are not going deaf.

    • @thomgandet8369
      @thomgandet8369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      No, your hearing is probably just fine. The loudest dynamic in the score is mp, and the piece ends ppp.

    • @lunchmind
      @lunchmind 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomgandet8369 oh okay, thank you.

    • @billyves1
      @billyves1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is the way it has to be sung and played, as often here and there "chez J.-Maurice Ravel".
      With his creation, music, and him, you sort of meant to think that you're entering in paintings, full of soft colours, and it's going to be a sort of fairyland... Or that is the way he always made me feel. There is something of the kids world too. Un monde... Le Monde Merveilleux de l'Enfance, pur, très léger et insouciant et d'une grande spiritualité... ;-).

  • @CosmosDweller
    @CosmosDweller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!

  • @phillipoos
    @phillipoos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remarkable....

  • @Emiliasooo
    @Emiliasooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:51 Esta música de manda a un estado de ensoñación muy profundo.

  • @Medtnaculuss
    @Medtnaculuss 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woohoo, Florent Schmitt!

  • @MarcoConnell
    @MarcoConnell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A delicacy..

  • @puccio1795
    @puccio1795 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    supreme

  • @henrytedds5585
    @henrytedds5585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Possibly the best piece ever?

  • @mounchipounchi
    @mounchipounchi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Bien dommage que la vaste majorité de la population du monde ne puisse saisir le sens et la délicatesse de ce texte. Même dans le monde francophone, Mallarmé demeure une entité obscure et hermétique... alors on n'ose pas imaginé en dehors!
    En passant, je suis québecois, et la poésie française est de loin ma favorite.

    • @elizabethmoriarty1661
      @elizabethmoriarty1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexandre Boily would you care to expand on this, it would be good to have the insight of a native French speaker on subtleties that escape even the educated anglophone. Even as a non-educated one, I find the literal translations of these songs rather irritating.

    • @ZAWARUD00
      @ZAWARUD00 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bien le bonjour. Mallarmé est mon poète favoris, et je regrette que si peu de gens l'apprécient.

  • @joondochang843
    @joondochang843 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Awesome, is that what I am seeing? ARTIFICIAL HARMONICS?!! I feel bad for the violinists....

    • @andrewfortmusic
      @andrewfortmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite! Ravel is a genius and he thought this through, so (if you’re talking the really quick ones at the beginning) these are not artificial harmonics but natural harmonics! Each one is played with a different finger on an open string!
      But yes there are some artificial harmonics as well, and they are so beautiful I can hardly imagine that the strings players would mind much (and the ones he writes aren’t particularly difficult because they’re not moving). :)

  • @XinhaoZheng
    @XinhaoZheng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This would definitely make Ravel a contemporary composer. It's rather expressionist, not impressionist.

    • @bernardparret3191
      @bernardparret3191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting indeed !

    • @jeremy8473
      @jeremy8473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only he had just lived 20 more years!

    • @theunknown6056
      @theunknown6056 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you should listen to his L'enfant et les sortilèges.

  • @paolomartinelli3119
    @paolomartinelli3119 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    :-) Thank you!!

  • @josephalvarez5315
    @josephalvarez5315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've never heard anything like the sound I heard at 3:50. It sounds like it's from a different planet

    • @CMLPoP
      @CMLPoP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ,,Ich fühle luft von anderem planeten'' as Schoenberg?

    • @josephalvarez5315
      @josephalvarez5315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CML PoP Not quite, although schoenberg's Quartet is a fine piece of music. But schoenberg's planet to me is so dark that you can't make out a single figure. The planet of 3:50 is bright, filled with colors that simply don't exist on earth.
      Idk. Maybe I'm trying to be too artsy and poetic about it, but that moment in music made me shoot up in my seat. Unlike anything I've heard before

    • @elizabethmoriarty1661
      @elizabethmoriarty1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joseph Alvarez I think the beauty of Ravel from this period is the way the dissonance always still threatens to resolve, which is what makes it so thrilling, the tension is used to evoke both frisson and meaning, whereas one always feels in the second Viennese school any musical effect is used to justify technique, rather than vice versa.

  • @litravioda8299
    @litravioda8299 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Leeeon! Leeeon!

    • @na-kun2136
      @na-kun2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But that's from Le paon(histories naturelles) not from here.

    • @litravioda8299
      @litravioda8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know, my dear. Maybe I heard a passage that reminded me the yell of the paon, I do not remember, it was 3 years ago

  • @catherineloriotahahah6614
    @catherineloriotahahah6614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    difficile à exécuter😮

  • @lucas__machado
    @lucas__machado ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is Ravel masterpiece, really. Do you guys know other works that could sound similar ?

    • @akadetrorjk
      @akadetrorjk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His string quartet is a must listen, the arpeggiated strings in the first poem happens a lot in his quartet, also his Dephnis et Chloe suite is beatiful, or if you like songs try his Trois Beaux Oiseaux du Paridis

    • @lucas__machado
      @lucas__machado ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@akadetrorjk Thank you !! I know these of course I'm Ravel biggest fan, his works are so wonderful

    • @akadetrorjk
      @akadetrorjk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucas__machado Yeah, Ravel is incredible

  • @MauriceRavel1875-1937
    @MauriceRavel1875-1937 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Many thanks for your your intense labor to make these videos with Maurice Ravel's Music and musical Scores. We create a special playlist with your videos in our TH-cam account th-cam.com/play/PLdSSmXKAhbnr53GRekJIaV-bydv71Dlgz.html Les Amis de Maurice Ravel (association) : www.boleravel.fr

  • @javiervivanco919
    @javiervivanco919 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toda palabra es vana

  • @limrc1
    @limrc1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ineffable! Any translations to the lyrics?

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Here: www.lieder.net/lieder/assemble_texts.html?SongCycleId=80

    • @limrc1
      @limrc1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much.
      I don't know what's in Ravel's tear-jerking, emotionally moving works. Can you refer me to some links and books that tells me more about him?
      Are there modern composers that is similar to his style? Of course Ravel can only be Ravel.
      Thank you for sharing your works.

    • @MatthieuStepec
      @MatthieuStepec 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe Adès? Or Samy Moussa? :)

    • @elizabethmoriarty1661
      @elizabethmoriarty1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      limrc1 he makes great of use of what’s now known as ‘musical frisson’, certain kinds of dissonance , sharp dynamic changes etc that literally have a physiological effect (an area that had only recently been started to be researched by psychologists-a list of them does read like a catalogue of his favourite gestures), but uses them carefully to evoke very subtle portrayal of emotion. I have my own theories about why ...

    • @ravelian
      @ravelian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@elizabethmoriarty1661where can one read more on this?

  • @pilleater
    @pilleater 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big Mark Hollis influence

    • @Ploist
      @Ploist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly. Mark hollis has stated Bela Bartok as an influence so he might’ve heard some Ravel too.

  • @duqueadriano0081
    @duqueadriano0081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:26

  • @ottokarvonschnallenburg2572
    @ottokarvonschnallenburg2572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:19

  • @faith.sophie.beatrice
    @faith.sophie.beatrice 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Debussy also set three poems by Stéphane Mallarmé to music. Which composer's interpretation do you prefer? Vote in the replies! :-)

  • @UmVerissimo
    @UmVerissimo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:25 sinistro dps volta ao normal wtf kkkk

  • @sergheidanilov9061
    @sergheidanilov9061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't understand Ravel's natural harmonics...There are the harmonic sound C (in alto), but I don't hear it...

  • @white_cloth
    @white_cloth ปีที่แล้ว

    2:42

  • @Scrungyyy
    @Scrungyyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These pieces really remind me of elves for some reason.

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean elves, the mythical creatures?

    • @Scrungyyy
      @Scrungyyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, are there other kinds of elves...?

    • @oliviergosselin9114
      @oliviergosselin9114 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im actually listening to this while playing WoW. But I was into Ravel's music before that.

    • @Scrungyyy
      @Scrungyyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, nice. Yeaaaah, man Ravel is great I love him.

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, they do.

  • @bbs8614
    @bbs8614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:10

  • @alexanderivanov5720
    @alexanderivanov5720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I could understand the text.

    • @boubou6355
      @boubou6355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are looking for a literal translation, here it is, however Mallarmé isn't really written to be "understood" in the pragmatic sense of the word:
      My soul toward your forehead, where dreams, ô calm sister, an autumn covered with freckles (which in french would literally be red splashes), and near the wandering sky of your angelic eye, rises like in a melancholic garden, loyal, a white water squirt, vanishes toward the azure
      The azure, tenderized, of October pale and pure, which states in great waters, it's languorous infinite. And lets on the dead water, where the feline agony wanders in the wind, and digs a cold furrow. Crawling, the yellow sun of a long beam.

    • @boubou6355
      @boubou6355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Placet futile:
      Princess ! Envying the destiny of Hebe, which hurts on this cup, with the kisses of your lips. I use my fire but my discreet rank is still the abbey, and won't figure naked on the Sevre (river).
      As I am not your frising Bichon, neither the pill, not the red, not the childish games
      And on me, I feel your closed stare falling, blond who's divine hairdresser are goldsmiths.
      Name us, you from who so much fruity lightness join into the lambs domesticated herds, eating the wishes, and screaming to the delirium
      Name us, so winged love of a fan, brushes me flute fingers, putting this fold to sleep.
      Princess name us, shepherd of your smiles

    • @alexanderivanov5720
      @alexanderivanov5720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boubou6355 The poetry along with this wonderful music is really touching. Thank you for sharing this! I can almost relate to the sensation expressed in the text.

  • @Nanananaheyhey1
    @Nanananaheyhey1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This must be difficult to sing

  • @stephenpraytor3885
    @stephenpraytor3885 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    les coiffeurs divins...

  • @mouhdz2158
    @mouhdz2158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    زطلة رديئة وموسيقى رديئة وقصة حب فاشلة عقيمة ورديئة

    • @na-kun2136
      @na-kun2136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shut up if u dont understand this.

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No

    • @gk6new
      @gk6new หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      dont let muhammad catch u hear

    • @Sedyon
      @Sedyon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂Your opinion is ridiculous. Maurice Ravel is an excellent composer.

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