SIGN ME UP PLEASE. Program textbook entitled Effects of Closeting in the Music Industry: A Larry Stylinson Case Study Authors: Corden, J. Horan, N. Sheeran, E. Kemp, R. Musgraves, K. Et. Al.
People are forgetting that Louis' dad walked out on his mom & him right after he was born (he was 10 days old). He was raised by a single mother for 6 years. As much of a family oriented person as he is the last thing he would do is repeat the cycle.
At first I said Louis was 100% a dad I didn’t really look into it because some people were saying disrespectful things about Freddie. But now I’m convinced that Freddie isn’t Louis kid. The stuff with her taking the pictures from other people kinda really made me believe that it was a stunt. So this was actually really informative.
but like wot if lou is the father but brianna is not the mother Edit:i have come to the conclusion that neither lou nor brianna are his parents,the only reason i thought freddie was lou's son was bc they looked similar to me
You could've add Louis' Billie Jean t-shirt and his tweet about Devlin's album that has lyrics like "so is it true XXXX fathered a baby? I don't really think so, if you ask me he don't like ladies. Could have been Harry yeah I bet it was Harry" too. Because these are LOUD.
imagine being a celebrity, one that million of teenage girls look up to. your reputation/image takes a sudden turn from "cute sassy boyfriend" to "party animal" within a month. you hookup with a random girl (who might just be looking for money and clout), and WEEKS later, she calls you and claims you got her pregnant. do you: a) order a paternity test as quickly as possible, and keep everything hushed for a while until everything is known for certain (like most celebrities do) b) never once, even years afterword, consider taking a paternity test because you're so certain she's being 100% honest with you, and your pr team decides to highly publicize this pregnancy between you and this relatively unknown girl.
i think one thing you could've added is how lou talks about his siblings in interviews vs how he sounded about F but other than that i appreciate the amount of effort you put in all this!! keep going girllll
And also they tried to push a narrative like Louis and Brianna are gonna become a couple or get married for the kid but Louis immediatly shut it down by being photographed with Tamara Bell who is friend with him and Harry because if they seen together holding hands they couldn't push the narrative with Louis and Brianna. He is SMART.
I saw another video that showed that whole situation more in depth - the weeks of 'party Louis' he was SO smart. He was in the news constantly with 'another girl' on his arm but it was proved later that every single one was a connected friend and he wasn't having one night stands with anyone. It showed that he deliberately was seen with friends, almost like he knew what 'they' were trying to do and also most of the nights out - he stayed for barely a few hours, like he was being forced to go out. The night he was pictured with Brianna was the only night he had to go alone and in the video of them together you can see that he was not 'with her' but it was a setup. Its actually really sad, his face is painful. Thè management totally set him up - which is apparent when they happily confirmed this strange girl was 'pregnant'straight away. They wanted it to happen..
And the antis use Freddie as an excuse as to why 'Larry is not real' and 'Louis is straight.' Like make it make sense. Thank you Lexi! Your presentations are love!!
Cake-gate/kiwi mv could also be related to “last day of freedom” where 1d performed at a gay bar. They were throwing cake around and the day after Simon flew Louis out to “have a talk with him” and after that he was less close with Harry
22:35 also, louis followed Matt Leblanc the same day on twitter, as if to draw more attention to that and the ep scene. we know how cryptic louis can be
Late to this video but i wanna agree with this! Lexie doesn't mention it but Harry and Louis are HUGE friends fans - they literally have done so many inside jokes/quotes from that show over the years that its hilarious. It didn't know about the 'buying sunglasses' on the day Freddie was born until i saw this and i laughed immediately, I 100% believe this was another of his 'inside jokes'...
some other things I wanna say: 1.Jeff in this video was a mood. Totally. 2. 42:44 JUDFKUSHSCU BLAKE'S FACE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE MAKE TO LOOK INTO NEW LARRY HAPPENINGS LMFAO 3. prince hair Carson looks so much like phl awwww
also important to add that SO many different celebs and news podcast type shows were just in disbelief about louis being a dad - the twitter GP and discussions about it was that it cannot be real (including many of the people surrounding the boys)
I was born at 25 weeks and I can tell you right away I stayed in the hospital for three months. In this case both the mother and the baby are to be supervised. Even for 36 weeks, Brianna could’ve not gotten out the hospital so fast, flat tummied (generally for such a short amount of time like 36 weeks) I believe a cesarean section is often used and she could have not been able to walk as easily and elegantly as she did
Holy crap I didn’t realize this video was an hour until I finished it, it went by so fast lol. I was definitely on the fence before now but this may have convinced me :)
I actually always thought Louis was a dad bc I wasn’t aware of that “theory“ but now it make so much sense, you are literally just speaking facts! This just shows how much their management was horrible. (Ps: if Louis is actually the father, I will be happy for him, but for now he needs to be a bit more convincing )
I agree. But like WHAT IF Freddie wasn't really Louis' kid..than does Freddie know who his actual father is? I mean, I think its kind of sad if he didn't because then his whole life would've been a lie. Poor kid.
@@sssshhhdontsayaword6746 well I hope that if Freddie doesn’t know, then one day he will see that millions of people think that he isn’t louis’ child and so he’ll question his “parents” and they’ll tell the truth
@@sssshhhdontsayaword6746 did u watch the video.. also. yeah. it’s really sad and unfortunate for the kid, being used for money and publicity like that :/
I've known about babygate for a while now but this video definitely showed me some stuff I didn't even know about ! I loved this video so much and your friends seem so awesome haha :) It's really hard to find larry related content like this nowadays so thanks for uploading !
You forgot the whole name thing! How Banana and her family literally paid for and bought website domains in July with possible kid's names (one of them was like Skylar Tomlinson I think?) and then Louis proceeded to announce it and call him Freddie REIGN (-> Freddie Mercury/fimq) and like half an hour later they bought THAT domain. Like why would he decide the name by himself and announce it to the world without talking to the mother lmao
I always forget that there are people who got into Larry after the group split. I can confirm that it definitely seems like a different experience to encounter this after it’s happened as opposed to being there as it happened. I can also say that morale was fairly low for larries then because at that point, everyone was just so tired, a lot of people gave up when the news first broke, everything was just so… agh
You made a great job. Brave. And i want to add one thing into this. It's about the photo used by The Sun when announcing her pregnancy. Lou and Briana were apparently asked by pap to POSE for that picture. If you saw the video, you would know what i mean. And Lou apparently complied with that request. It's too weird if you know about Lou's personality. Posing with random girl for The Sun? Oh god no, never. And to make it even more fake, pap made it clear this photo was for The Sun. wtf. Can The Sun predict that Briana will be pregnant? And why out of all the girls with the party boy Lou, The Sun especially wanted to take a picture of an unknown girl like Briana. It's too weird and random. Aside from Briana's borrowed Pregnancy photos, this is perhaps the biggest proof that the baby isn't Lou's son.
Before this video I didn't even want to think about this situation not being real, because it's still about a child you know. But this video is so good! It honestly blew my mind how deep this goes. I don't even know what to think at this point, but you did an amazing explanation!!
Thanks for the presentation and everything! I just wanted to say that I feel bad because even if Freddie is not Louis’ son, he doesn’t deserve the comments he’s receiving. He’s a child and there’s people sending hateful comments. Please treat him with kindness, he’s just a kid and has done nothing. Thanks for your appreciation
Louis said himself he was ready to be married and be a father of a bunch of kids at 18/19... With all the stability he has now, as in: financial and romantic.. it is just weird that he is not fulfilling his family dream. Not to mention that he is a really lovable person, specially twords family.. so the way he has been pictured in media, all this talk about the kid and he doing close to nothing about it... those just don't sit right with me
just wanna add that i have followed 1d since xfactor days and have seen everything happen in real time (literally everything) and when bbg started out literally not even the gp believed it and would mock it
Thanks for the video. The personal biggest evidence is Louis saying this about an album where the one song with father baby and so on. Not only the picture Brianna posted on Freddie’s birthday last year where we definitely found out that the ultrasound was from a fertility clinic. The fact that Louis sold his house in the near of it and does not want full custody . That makes for me like no sense he was so keen in his young age to get married and get kids but then never tried to get custody or saw his son very less. Another factor is this young who went viral on Twitter and then FaceTime with Louis look more like Louis than Freddie. Especially with Freddie getting older I kind of see no difference in Austin and Freddie.
girl I totally agree with you, and I thank you for not disrespecting a single person in this video, but I just wanted to point out that a lot of people are disrespectful to Freddie, and THAT is wrong, he is just a child that was put into this nonsense of closeting Larry and he is not guilty of anything. I appreciate the fact you put this out onto the internet without any hate towards anybody ❤❤❤
I missed 1D’s prime but Harry’s solo career has always intrigued me, and with Harry’s House coming out I decided to look into his earlier stuff and holy shit, is there a treasure trove. And THEN I discovered Larry and have fallen deep down that rabbit hole over the last month or so, but hadn’t been able to find out much about babygate before this video so THANK YOU VERY MUCH 💙💚 oh I also watched most of your other videos with your friends and they’re all adorable and so are you and you have a new subscriber 😍
when it came out back then, no one believed even the general public didn’t believe it. like im so against baby-gate simply because i know how louis and harry acted back then like ??? just saying as a fan since 2010 i can say freddie aint louis’
Thanks, Lexi, I had literally no clue what babygate was until now, and I was always so confused whenever people brought it up😅 I'm definitely still kind of on edge about it, but I'm leaning towards Freddie not being Louis'
oh and you cant rlly believe in rbb & sbb and still ignore the uncountable times they mentioned babygate. (btw, this comment is not open for discussion cause ppl get horribly rude and try to dox you and shit, so pls pls pls be kind)
babygate was my freshman year of college and i remember i had one friend who was kinda into 1D and after class i would debrief them as more babygate proofs came out
it's just weird to me how people magazine announced the pregnancy like some new movie coming out and all the unnecessary info about b's family like i rmr literally knowing the name of her cousin's best friend like she was some celebrity. oh and the paparazzi shouting "this is for the sun!"
Wowza, Lexi. This video is something. It shows how much effort you put on gathering all the proof! I don't really have an opinion on bbg, but damn, the stolen pictures are something. I mean, why would you steal pictures from another pregnant woman if you're pregnant yourself? Where's the face half the time? A woman who has just recently given birth, whether C-Section or natural, would be in so uncomfortable after giving birth that changing the color of their nails would be the last thing on their mind. There's no way she's walking out of hospital wearing tight jeans and high heels, carrying the baby carrier with one hand, one mere week after giving birth. The bump disappearing. It just doesn't add up.
The most f***ed up thing about all of this is the fact that this child has to live with this. So either he is Louis' son (which I find highly unlikely) and he has to live with hundreds of tousands of people saying he isn't an that he is fake. Or he is not and either is made believe Louis is his biological dad or he knows the truth. Can you imagine what that would do to the psyche of a child when it will undoubtetly discover that he was basically a lie. That everything he knows is fake (in case Louis is actually spending time with him). Or even worse if he is forced to lie about this. Because one day he will be old enough to find this stuff in the internet... Poor child.
Lexi this presentation is amazing!!..I’m gonna tell people who want to know abt bbg to watch this vid💗. Also I’m happy that people are open minded since we babygaters not in any way disrespect Louis or Freddie, cause we love the kid n we feel terrible that he’s in this situation n all the master posts don’t evn talk abt Freddie it’s more abt Briana n Louis n the inconsistencies.
Thank you so much for making this, like I'm a relatively new directioner and Larrie! And in the back of my mind, I knew louis wasn't the father but was scared to rly look into it, cause like u said I thought it was disrespectful, etc. But after watching ur video yeah I'm a 100% sure louis is in no way the father
for me, one of the big things i couldnt ignore, which made me look into it in the first place, was how DIFFERENT louis acts about f. when i learned that louis sold his house in la for less than it was even worth? when i learned that the jungworth fam stands firmly opposed to everything louis believes in (theyre antivax trump supporters), and yet he never even TRIED to get custody of that kid, despite LOVING KIDS and always saying he wanted to be a dad??? and don't even get me started on ruth claiming louis, a multimillionaire, gave his child APPLES for christmas!
I do believe that Freddie is Lou's son simply because as Freddie is getting older now he looks identical to Louis and Louis clearly loves him very much as seen in All of Those Voices and treats him like a son. Possibly Louis just wasn't used to being a dad at the beginning and that's why he didn't seem very excited. Maybe it's cuz it was new to him and he didn't know what to do. As for Briana.... She has me very puzzled with all those fake photos but it could be some form of privacy thing? Maybe she didn't want pics of herself on social media at that time? I'm not sure but this is definitely thought provoking lol. I appreciate how you said you respect everybody's opinions.
It is highly possible that the kid is Louis's. The kid looks exactly like him to the point where people try to prove it is photoshop (yet he looks the same in candid videos and photos taken at concerts). Also, gay men have children for their closet all the time. That said, he is a completely shitty person if he had a kid with someone else when he knew Harry wanted kids with him. I don't know if he was forced to have a kid or if he got convinced to do it, but it was wrong, and Harry was rightfully angry. Just look at the song Kiwi. So yeah, I have always sided with Harry in this situation, and I don't think Louis and Freddie are "cute." I think Louis should be deeply ashamed.
Before this video I thought that Freddie was Lou's kid because all of the pictures of Lou and Freddie next to each other. But after this video started hesitating. I got another perspective. But I also think you should've put another comparison of Louis and Freddie together, because there are a lot of pictures where Freddie looks exactly the same. But I respect your perspective of all of this.
ive never connected that f’s “great” grandma talks about how much him and brett look alike but they’re not supposed to be blood related!!! in what world would someone say that about their step-grandson??? insane.
@@anyways3114 I actually used to scream to that song and thought about it as harry talking about the baby gate situation already 🤦♀️I'm telling ya I was in a weird place I was in kind of both sides cause I thought that Freddie was Louis kid but sometimes I thought he wasn't lmao it was strange
WAIT.... She had her ultrasound done at a SERGENCY CLINIC..... What if Louis really is his dad BUT it's because 2 men can't have a baby and he and Harry wanted a child. That would explain why Louis REFUSED to do a paternity test, because he KNEW for a fact the child was his because they used his man juice to conceive. This would also explain why Louis was able to name Freddy with out even talking to Briana..... Just saying... It's possible.
Freddie looks like Louis. If it was a surrogacy what if it's Gemma's egg? BUT they don't have a ton of contact with Freddy so I just can't imagine Harry & louis choosing this. I've just come to the conclusion that they Ruffied Louis to get her pregnant or he agreed to have a baby as part of the ruse.
So the line from Harry's song kiwi "I'm having your baby it's none of your business" is the indication of this whole thing???? Or I'm the only one who invested In this too much ?? LoL
I believe so, and also in the song the "mother" drinks and smokes which isn't a recommended behaviour during pregnancy, and once I'm pretty sure i saw a pic where B was drinking supposedly while pregnant
Is it just me or your friend Blake looks exactly, like EXACTLY like actor Cameron Monaghan when he was around his age (I think he's like a good 10 years older). They look like they could be related, it's insane 😮
If you are leaving hate comment under this video. You clearly did not watch the video. Go watch the video first. She literally gave a disclaimer in the start. This is not a made up fan theory. It was all in the public like holivia. Tpwk.
I just wanna add, Louis William Tomlinson was raised by an amazing woman; a strong woman, who when she had him, she wasn't in the best relationship with they boys father, T. Austin. Which was why Louis took his stepfather's last name of Tomlinson. Louis is a kind person, and as loving as his mother was; you can say, Jay raised her boy right. So, despite how things turned out for Banana or her mother and stepfather, before they met Louis, they didn't have a lot. And, with the young or older people in the little boy's life, Louis has made certain Freddie Rein is provided for. He had even cared enough to purchase a home in LA, not to far from the house he had purchased for his son. Do i believe the boy is his Bio kid? No. He looks nothing like him; and i have seen the sneaky way the Clark's alter the boy's face in pictures and vids, to make it appear like he does. IF you understand how unfair and strange Cali family law can be, you will get why, Louis put his name on the child's Birth Certificate. I recently saw a tik tok vid of Louis at one of his Concerts with the child in the audience, standing along side a young male adult, waving shyly at *his Father* who was waving back on the stage, happily. Louis has one of those voices that are NOT like anyone else in the world. It is easily recognizable because of this. Just like the tiny snigget of a clip sent out in December 2021 sharing a Christmas at the Tomlinson/Deakin's; and Louis sounds very happy. You can see the little boy looking shyly over at the HUGE Christmas tree, with gifts for him with his name one them. You blink and it is over with that quick. WHY did Louis do this? Was it because he had turned 30, and it looked like everyone was HOME but those that couldn't be because they are no longer here; and the ONE person that should have been, but...HE was away working his butt off; and stuck in a stunt. STILL? Louis looked and sounded like, regardless of the negative, HE was going to keep it positive, for the sake of his siblings, and that little boy. So, seeing him in that concert clip the other day, so HAPPY, and so excited to see Freddie, i DO get it, why now, he would be more open and not resentful acting of him like he used to be. The Plan demic hitting us hard the worls over, caused a lot of us to re evaluate our lives after LOCKdown. Harry had said in interviews; and at his most recent NY one night only Concert, that was because of it, that Harry's House was created. Perhaps, because of it, Louis had a HUGE change of heart about the little boy he had been saddled with since his birth? Maybe, we can burn the thoughts of his before actions and just accept his now ones. In my own Book, i wrote a lot about the unfair and insane FACTS i found out about BG back then. Especially how he's been paying her $60,000 a year for the boy's upkeep. I think that one of her ex's had stated it averaged out to $5,000 a week. I guess, until BOTH Louis and Harry tell us the truth, we will never know it. But again, at least i GET it now, why Louis has accepted Freddie as his. Him calling him his Son, his little Lad; dedicating Walls to him. All of it, being seeded bit by bit until Louis was comfortable, and felt safe enough to finally publicly claim him, as his boy.
im just thinking and i know we dont know what goes on behind the scenes isnt it a bit weird how eleanor and louis have been together for like 10 years yet weve never seen freddie with her not a single photo?? freddie has been seen with danielle and louis idk
I’ve thought that too. Eleanor is supposedly the love of his life, the one he is hoping to marry someday and we haven’t seen one single photo of them together. She will supposedly be his stepmom one day.
@@threeangels9318 yeah it just feels odd, if they were really together, el and lou, wouldnt we atleast see one photo?? its odd that ur partner has never seen your kid
i didn’t want to have opinions on babygate before so i just avoided the topic and watched cute larry flirting and sexual tension edits instead just because it was bigger than a harmless theory about them being sweetly in love but this is very fishy and i now believe that it was a stunt. it’s still very complicated and i don’t know how to feel because it’s very sad that louis had to pretend and i don’t understand their motives and it’s all very weird. this just reminds me how messed up the music industry is. just two boys in love spiraling into a whole mess involving a little boy? 💔💔
I remember when all of this was going on (I was around 12 at the time) and thinking it was super random. I even forgot about it for a couple of years because Louis like never talks about it.
So here's my view!! NO HATE THO!! So I didn't wanted to look into bbg but watched this video just for my information!! So as a baby, Freddie didn't look like lou but now I think he kinda does!! Plus remember that the hospital is a surrogacy clinic: I think Freddie is Lou's and hazza's baby through surrogacy!! Maybe it's true maybe not!! But whatever I just want them to be happy! So TPWK!!💙💚
From basically the moment joined the fandom I saw something was off…. I investigated and saw the truth. Thank you for making more people see the truth….
I don't believe in babygate. Looking at the whole picture, there's no way the "official narrative" with Brianna and Louis is true. Louis seems to have decided (whether by himself or pressured into by contracts or something) to have Freddie in his life though and act like a weird godfather/absent father figure. It seems almost like they are telling Freddie this official narrative and trying to raise him in this strange spiral of lies and PR. I can only hope that he is not so badly affected by this whole ordeal and, if Louis chooses to stay in his life, that it's out of a genuine love rather than corporate obligation or guilt.
I'm also curious about why Louis is shirtless in like 3 of the pictures with Freddie. It's probably not related to whether or not Freddie is Louis' kid, but it just feels kind of random?
just like you said at the end about people who were around when bbg started - I’ve been a fan since 2012/13 and I remember all this going down, starting from the whole party boy louis thing I knew that was bullsh*t the way he was acting just wasn’t him at all and as soon as it was announced he was having a kid I didn’t believe it. Nothing matched up and the way he was acting towards it like it was ridiculous and it just got boring bc it was/is so obviously staged🤣
I might still be up in the air about whether or not Louis is the dad but Brianna is definitely not the mom. So I don’t know if this was a secret surrogacy or really just Brett and Tami’s kid.
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in the words of louis tomlinson, "people will believe what they wanna believe"
so everyone pls be respectful of others opinions
I need more of this now👌😁😁😁😁
I want Lexi Houde to be my professor in Stylinsonology
SIGN ME UP PLEASE.
Program textbook entitled Effects of Closeting in the Music Industry: A Larry Stylinson Case Study
Authors:
Corden, J.
Horan, N.
Sheeran, E.
Kemp, R.
Musgraves, K.
Et. Al.
@@zimzalabimzed PLEASE THIS COMMENT IS PROBABLY THE BEST THING IVE COME ACROSS
People are forgetting that Louis' dad walked out on his mom & him right after he was born (he was 10 days old). He was raised by a single mother for 6 years. As much of a family oriented person as he is the last thing he would do is repeat the cycle.
Unfortunately those cycles do repeat. Troy Austin, Louis's bio dad who abandoned him, was said by his brother to have not had a father figure himself.
At first I said Louis was 100% a dad I didn’t really look into it because some people were saying disrespectful things about Freddie. But now I’m convinced that Freddie isn’t Louis kid. The stuff with her taking the pictures from other people kinda really made me believe that it was a stunt. So this was actually really informative.
but like wot if lou is the father but brianna is not the mother
Edit:i have come to the conclusion that neither lou nor brianna are his parents,the only reason i thought freddie was lou's son was bc they looked similar to me
thanks for being open minded and watching the vid 🥰
@@k-trauma that could be.
@@niallspotato5069 maybe they forced lou to have a kid or something but like idk
@@k-trauma maybe but brett thing-
The amount of effort you put into these presentations is crazyyy... my professors could NEVER !! loved the video and super exited for the next one:)
You could've add Louis' Billie Jean t-shirt and his tweet about Devlin's album that has lyrics like "so is it true XXXX fathered a baby? I don't really think so, if you ask me he don't like ladies. Could have been Harry yeah I bet it was Harry" too. Because these are LOUD.
Omgggg I forgot about those lyrics😂😭😭
YESSS
Yes man period
imagine being a celebrity, one that million of teenage girls look up to. your reputation/image takes a sudden turn from "cute sassy boyfriend" to "party animal" within a month. you hookup with a random girl (who might just be looking for money and clout), and WEEKS later, she calls you and claims you got her pregnant.
do you:
a) order a paternity test as quickly as possible, and keep everything hushed for a while until everything is known for certain (like most celebrities do)
b) never once, even years afterword, consider taking a paternity test because you're so certain she's being 100% honest with you, and your pr team decides to highly publicize this pregnancy between you and this relatively unknown girl.
i think one thing you could've added is how lou talks about his siblings in interviews vs how he sounded about F
but other than that i appreciate the amount of effort you put in all this!! keep going girllll
And also they tried to push a narrative like Louis and Brianna are gonna become a couple or get married for the kid but Louis immediatly shut it down by being photographed with Tamara Bell who is friend with him and Harry because if they seen together holding hands they couldn't push the narrative with Louis and Brianna. He is SMART.
I saw another video that showed that whole situation more in depth - the weeks of 'party Louis' he was SO smart. He was in the news constantly with 'another girl' on his arm but it was proved later that every single one was a connected friend and he wasn't having one night stands with anyone. It showed that he deliberately was seen with friends, almost like he knew what 'they' were trying to do and also most of the nights out - he stayed for barely a few hours, like he was being forced to go out. The night he was pictured with Brianna was the only night he had to go alone and in the video of them together you can see that he was not 'with her' but it was a setup. Its actually really sad, his face is painful. Thè management totally set him up - which is apparent when they happily confirmed this strange girl was 'pregnant'straight away. They wanted it to happen..
can we appreciate mackenzie's ( the girl who is switching the presentation slides) beauty. She lookssss so preetty.
Ikr she’s sooo gorgeous
And the antis use Freddie as an excuse as to why 'Larry is not real' and 'Louis is straight.' Like make it make sense. Thank you Lexi! Your presentations are love!!
Just what Syco wanted....
Cake-gate/kiwi mv could also be related to “last day of freedom” where 1d performed at a gay bar. They were throwing cake around and the day after Simon flew Louis out to “have a talk with him” and after that he was less close with Harry
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Appeared less close in public.nit still together in private.
22:35 also, louis followed Matt Leblanc the same day on twitter, as if to draw more attention to that and the ep scene. we know how cryptic louis can be
Late to this video but i wanna agree with this! Lexie doesn't mention it but Harry and Louis are HUGE friends fans - they literally have done so many inside jokes/quotes from that show over the years that its hilarious. It didn't know about the 'buying sunglasses' on the day Freddie was born until i saw this and i laughed immediately, I 100% believe this was another of his 'inside jokes'...
some other things I wanna say:
1.Jeff in this video was a mood. Totally.
2. 42:44 JUDFKUSHSCU BLAKE'S FACE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE MAKE TO LOOK INTO NEW LARRY HAPPENINGS LMFAO
3. prince hair Carson looks so much like phl awwww
also important to add that SO many different celebs and news podcast type shows were just in disbelief about louis being a dad - the twitter GP and discussions about it was that it cannot be real (including many of the people surrounding the boys)
I was born at 25 weeks and I can tell you right away I stayed in the hospital for three months. In this case both the mother and the baby are to be supervised. Even for 36 weeks, Brianna could’ve not gotten out the hospital so fast, flat tummied (generally for such a short amount of time like 36 weeks) I believe a cesarean section is often used and she could have not been able to walk as easily and elegantly as she did
I don’t know why I laugh every time Blake and Carson snap😂
Ooooh Lexi you are brave, girl. This takes bravery. I appreciate it!
Holy crap I didn’t realize this video was an hour until I finished it, it went by so fast lol. I was definitely on the fence before now but this may have convinced me :)
carson is smashing the hair btw
I don't want to say anything about Freddie ....but why the hell kiwi makes soo much sense now ....even if it's coincidences
I actually always thought Louis was a dad bc I wasn’t aware of that “theory“ but now it make so much sense, you are literally just speaking facts! This just shows how much their management was horrible.
(Ps: if Louis is actually the father, I will be happy for him, but for now he needs to be a bit more convincing )
I agree. But like WHAT IF Freddie wasn't really Louis' kid..than does Freddie know who his actual father is? I mean, I think its kind of sad if he didn't because then his whole life would've been a lie. Poor kid.
@@sssshhhdontsayaword6746 well I hope that if Freddie doesn’t know, then one day he will see that millions of people think that he isn’t louis’ child and so he’ll question his “parents” and they’ll tell the truth
@@sssshhhdontsayaword6746 did u watch the video.. also. yeah. it’s really sad and unfortunate for the kid, being used for money and publicity like that :/
@@louvelvet Yes, I watched it all. I think I commenteer this while watching it.
Why would you be happy for him that he cheated on his own husband and had a kid with someone else?
I've known about babygate for a while now but this video definitely showed me some stuff I didn't even know about ! I loved this video so much and your friends seem so awesome haha :) It's really hard to find larry related content like this nowadays so thanks for uploading !
You forgot the whole name thing! How Banana and her family literally paid for and bought website domains in July with possible kid's names (one of them was like Skylar Tomlinson I think?) and then Louis proceeded to announce it and call him Freddie REIGN (-> Freddie Mercury/fimq) and like half an hour later they bought THAT domain. Like why would he decide the name by himself and announce it to the world without talking to the mother lmao
Yeah i almost forgot it. It's so funny to think of.
HAHAHA WHATTT
Omg 😱
The son is named after Freddie is my queen? Fuck I get why she’s so holy in this fandom
@@themusicleader1234 well, it's more like he's named after Freddie Mercury ahah bjt yeah
I always forget that there are people who got into Larry after the group split. I can confirm that it definitely seems like a different experience to encounter this after it’s happened as opposed to being there as it happened. I can also say that morale was fairly low for larries then because at that point, everyone was just so tired, a lot of people gave up when the news first broke, everything was just so… agh
Just what management wanted.stop the larries supporting ...
You made a great job. Brave. And i want to add one thing into this. It's about the photo used by The Sun when announcing her pregnancy. Lou and Briana were apparently asked by pap to POSE for that picture. If you saw the video, you would know what i mean. And Lou apparently complied with that request. It's too weird if you know about Lou's personality. Posing with random girl for The Sun? Oh god no, never. And to make it even more fake, pap made it clear this photo was for The Sun. wtf. Can The Sun predict that Briana will be pregnant? And why out of all the girls with the party boy Lou, The Sun especially wanted to take a picture of an unknown girl like Briana. It's too weird and random. Aside from Briana's borrowed Pregnancy photos, this is perhaps the biggest proof that the baby isn't Lou's son.
Before this video I didn't even want to think about this situation not being real, because it's still about a child you know. But this video is so good! It honestly blew my mind how deep this goes. I don't even know what to think at this point, but you did an amazing explanation!!
literally the most "argument" bgg have is that "louis and freddie are the same" it's not like louis is a printer lol
loved the video btw
Thanks for the presentation and everything! I just wanted to say that I feel bad because even if Freddie is not Louis’ son, he doesn’t deserve the comments he’s receiving. He’s a child and there’s people sending hateful comments. Please treat him with kindness, he’s just a kid and has done nothing. Thanks for your appreciation
Louis said himself he was ready to be married and be a father of a bunch of kids at 18/19... With all the stability he has now, as in: financial and romantic.. it is just weird that he is not fulfilling his family dream. Not to mention that he is a really lovable person, specially twords family.. so the way he has been pictured in media, all this talk about the kid and he doing close to nothing about it... those just don't sit right with me
I love how Blake takes notes
just wanna add that i have followed 1d since xfactor days and have seen everything happen in real time (literally everything) and when bbg started out literally not even the gp believed it and would mock it
literally the coolest dudes i’ve ever seen
yesss, i was a fan when this all happend, and it was so strange, no one belived it.
Thanks for the video. The personal biggest evidence is Louis saying this about an album where the one song with father baby and so on. Not only the picture Brianna posted on Freddie’s birthday last year where we definitely found out that the ultrasound was from a fertility clinic. The fact that Louis sold his house in the near of it and does not want full custody . That makes for me like no sense he was so keen in his young age to get married and get kids but then never tried to get custody or saw his son very less. Another factor is this young who went viral on Twitter and then FaceTime with Louis look more like Louis than Freddie. Especially with Freddie getting older I kind of see no difference in Austin and Freddie.
You guys could honestly react to any random larry/1D video and I would stop everything to watch it. This is too good 👏🏻
You should be my only teacher in this world. TOO GOOD.
girl I totally agree with you, and I thank you for not disrespecting a single person in this video, but I just wanted to point out that a lot of people are disrespectful to Freddie, and THAT is wrong, he is just a child that was put into this nonsense of closeting Larry and he is not guilty of anything. I appreciate the fact you put this out onto the internet without any hate towards anybody ❤❤❤
I missed 1D’s prime but Harry’s solo career has always intrigued me, and with Harry’s House coming out I decided to look into his earlier stuff and holy shit, is there a treasure trove. And THEN I discovered Larry and have fallen deep down that rabbit hole over the last month or so, but hadn’t been able to find out much about babygate before this video so THANK YOU VERY MUCH 💙💚 oh I also watched most of your other videos with your friends and they’re all adorable and so are you and you have a new subscriber 😍
when it came out back then, no one believed even the general public didn’t believe it. like im so against baby-gate simply because i know how louis and harry acted back then like ??? just saying as a fan since 2010 i can say freddie aint louis’
They also planned that louis and brianna should get married but louis avoided that by holding hands with a female friend of his on an event
Thanks, Lexi, I had literally no clue what babygate was until now, and I was always so confused whenever people brought it up😅
I'm definitely still kind of on edge about it, but I'm leaning towards Freddie not being Louis'
the ending lmfao i loved it
oh and you cant rlly believe in rbb & sbb and still ignore the uncountable times they mentioned babygate.
(btw, this comment is not open for discussion cause ppl get horribly rude and try to dox you and shit, so pls pls pls be kind)
thissss
babygate was my freshman year of college and i remember i had one friend who was kinda into 1D and after class i would debrief them as more babygate proofs came out
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEEE
TURN IT UP
I don't really have an opinion on this subject because freddie is still a kid and he cant defent himself so i feel guilty, but i respect every opinion
it's just weird to me how people magazine announced the pregnancy like some new movie coming out and all the unnecessary info about b's family like i rmr literally knowing the name of her cousin's best friend like she was some celebrity. oh and the paparazzi shouting "this is for the sun!"
Wowza, Lexi. This video is something. It shows how much effort you put on gathering all the proof! I don't really have an opinion on bbg, but damn, the stolen pictures are something. I mean, why would you steal pictures from another pregnant woman if you're pregnant yourself? Where's the face half the time? A woman who has just recently given birth, whether C-Section or natural, would be in so uncomfortable after giving birth that changing the color of their nails would be the last thing on their mind. There's no way she's walking out of hospital wearing tight jeans and high heels, carrying the baby carrier with one hand, one mere week after giving birth. The bump disappearing. It just doesn't add up.
Carson so true bestie, larry is real, slay hah
Great vid
Love your content and the effort you put in to this
lexi you're my favorite person in this fandom i love u❤️🩹
I loved this video and all the other ones with your friends, they sound so awesome, and your presentation was so detailed. Lots of Larrie love!
The most f***ed up thing about all of this is the fact that this child has to live with this.
So either he is Louis' son (which I find highly unlikely) and he has to live with hundreds of tousands of people saying he isn't an that he is fake. Or he is not and either is made believe Louis is his biological dad or he knows the truth. Can you imagine what that would do to the psyche of a child when it will undoubtetly discover that he was basically a lie. That everything he knows is fake (in case Louis is actually spending time with him). Or even worse if he is forced to lie about this.
Because one day he will be old enough to find this stuff in the internet... Poor child.
I love and respect that Blake wanted to be neutral but the things just didn't add up.
Cause that's how I became a larrie
I just watched the whole video and I was always like in a neutral position bc I was informed but I wasn’t connecting the dots, so THANKS!!!
Hey Lexi there is a video that had Freddie calling Brett dad when they were at the lake or something. I can't find the video now
There is another proof. Where Louis tweeted about an album and it said something like "He didn't father the baby, guess it was Harry" or smt like this
Missed you guys
this lowkey just turned me into a no stunts larrie
good timing on this one bestie !!
Lexi this presentation is amazing!!..I’m gonna tell people who want to know abt bbg to watch this vid💗. Also I’m happy that people are open minded since we babygaters not in any way disrespect Louis or Freddie, cause we love the kid n we feel terrible that he’s in this situation n all the master posts don’t evn talk abt Freddie it’s more abt Briana n Louis n the inconsistencies.
Thank you so much for making this, like I'm a relatively new directioner and Larrie! And in the back of my mind, I knew louis wasn't the father but was scared to rly look into it, cause like u said I thought it was disrespectful, etc. But after watching ur video yeah I'm a 100% sure louis is in no way the father
for me, one of the big things i couldnt ignore, which made me look into it in the first place, was how DIFFERENT louis acts about f. when i learned that louis sold his house in la for less than it was even worth? when i learned that the jungworth fam stands firmly opposed to everything louis believes in (theyre antivax trump supporters), and yet he never even TRIED to get custody of that kid, despite LOVING KIDS and always saying he wanted to be a dad??? and don't even get me started on ruth claiming louis, a multimillionaire, gave his child APPLES for christmas!
The cake gate did it for me
I do believe that Freddie is Lou's son simply because as Freddie is getting older now he looks identical to Louis and Louis clearly loves him very much as seen in All of Those Voices and treats him like a son. Possibly Louis just wasn't used to being a dad at the beginning and that's why he didn't seem very excited. Maybe it's cuz it was new to him and he didn't know what to do. As for Briana.... She has me very puzzled with all those fake photos but it could be some form of privacy thing? Maybe she didn't want pics of herself on social media at that time? I'm not sure but this is definitely thought provoking lol. I appreciate how you said you respect everybody's opinions.
It is highly possible that the kid is Louis's. The kid looks exactly like him to the point where people try to prove it is photoshop (yet he looks the same in candid videos and photos taken at concerts). Also, gay men have children for their closet all the time. That said, he is a completely shitty person if he had a kid with someone else when he knew Harry wanted kids with him. I don't know if he was forced to have a kid or if he got convinced to do it, but it was wrong, and Harry was rightfully angry. Just look at the song Kiwi. So yeah, I have always sided with Harry in this situation, and I don't think Louis and Freddie are "cute." I think Louis should be deeply ashamed.
Before this video I thought that Freddie was Lou's kid because all of the pictures of Lou and Freddie next to each other. But after this video started hesitating. I got another perspective. But I also think you should've put another comparison of Louis and Freddie together, because there are a lot of pictures where Freddie looks exactly the same. But I respect your perspective of all of this.
ive never connected that f’s “great” grandma talks about how much him and brett look alike but they’re not supposed to be blood related!!! in what world would someone say that about their step-grandson??? insane.
I never looked into baby gate proof and I used to say of Freddie is Louis son but after I watched this video I'm sure Louis is not a father
Welcome to the light side.
Kiwi is way more enjoyable in this side, I highly recommend go watch the video and dance to it as next step
@@anyways3114 I actually used to scream to that song and thought about it as harry talking about the baby gate situation already 🤦♀️I'm telling ya I was in a weird place I was in kind of both sides cause I thought that Freddie was Louis kid but sometimes I thought he wasn't lmao it was strange
@@sauleblazeviciute1917 oh honey I'm just glad you're better now. Have a hug
@@anyways3114 thank you I needed that 😩💜
WAIT.... She had her ultrasound done at a SERGENCY CLINIC..... What if Louis really is his dad BUT it's because 2 men can't have a baby and he and Harry wanted a child. That would explain why Louis REFUSED to do a paternity test, because he KNEW for a fact the child was his because they used his man juice to conceive. This would also explain why Louis was able to name Freddy with out even talking to Briana..... Just saying... It's possible.
Freddie looks like Louis. If it was a surrogacy what if it's Gemma's egg? BUT they don't have a ton of contact with Freddy so I just can't imagine Harry & louis choosing this. I've just come to the conclusion that they Ruffied Louis to get her pregnant or he agreed to have a baby as part of the ruse.
So the line from Harry's song kiwi "I'm having your baby it's none of your business" is the indication of this whole thing???? Or I'm the only one who invested In this too much ?? LoL
I believe so, and also in the song the "mother" drinks and smokes which isn't a recommended behaviour during pregnancy, and once I'm pretty sure i saw a pic where B was drinking supposedly while pregnant
Thanks for posting this! This is the one piece of lore I never really kept up with and I wanna know :)
i loved you guys before now i love even more, the videos are soooo great!
GIRL YOU ARE BRAVE TO BRING THAT FOR YOU TUBE
Is it just me or your friend Blake looks exactly, like EXACTLY like actor Cameron Monaghan when he was around his age (I think he's like a good 10 years older). They look like they could be related, it's insane 😮
If you are leaving hate comment under this video. You clearly did not watch the video. Go watch the video first. She literally gave a disclaimer in the start. This is not a made up fan theory. It was all in the public like holivia. Tpwk.
I just wanna add, Louis William Tomlinson was raised by an amazing woman; a strong woman, who when she had him, she wasn't in the best relationship with they boys father, T. Austin. Which was why Louis took his stepfather's last name of Tomlinson.
Louis is a kind person, and as loving as his mother was; you can say, Jay raised her boy right.
So, despite how things turned out for Banana or her mother and stepfather, before they met Louis, they didn't have a lot.
And, with the young or older people in the little boy's life, Louis has made certain Freddie Rein is provided for.
He had even cared enough to purchase a home in LA, not to far from the house he had purchased for his son.
Do i believe the boy is his Bio kid?
No.
He looks nothing like him; and i have seen the sneaky way the Clark's alter the boy's face in pictures and vids, to make it appear like he does.
IF you understand how unfair and strange Cali family law can be, you will get why, Louis put his name on the child's Birth Certificate.
I recently saw a tik tok vid of Louis at one of his Concerts with the child in the audience, standing along side a young male adult, waving shyly at *his Father* who was waving back on the stage, happily.
Louis has one of those voices that are NOT like anyone else in the world. It is easily recognizable because of this.
Just like the tiny snigget of a clip sent out in December 2021 sharing a Christmas at the Tomlinson/Deakin's; and Louis sounds very happy. You can see the little boy looking shyly over at the HUGE Christmas tree, with gifts for him with his name one them.
You blink and it is over with that quick.
WHY did Louis do this? Was it because he had turned 30, and it looked like everyone was HOME but those that couldn't be because they are no longer here; and the ONE person that should have been, but...HE was away working his butt off; and stuck in a stunt.
STILL? Louis looked and sounded like, regardless of the negative, HE was going to keep it positive, for the sake of his siblings, and that little boy.
So, seeing him in that concert clip the other day, so HAPPY, and so excited to see Freddie, i DO get it, why now, he would be more open and not resentful acting of him like he used to be.
The Plan demic hitting us hard the worls over, caused a lot of us to re evaluate our lives after LOCKdown.
Harry had said in interviews; and at his most recent NY one night only Concert, that was because of it, that Harry's House was created.
Perhaps, because of it, Louis had a HUGE change of heart about the little boy he had been saddled with since his birth?
Maybe, we can burn the thoughts of his before actions and just accept his now ones.
In my own Book, i wrote a lot about the unfair and insane FACTS i found out about BG back then. Especially how he's been paying her $60,000 a year for the boy's upkeep. I think that one of her ex's had stated it averaged out to $5,000 a week.
I guess, until BOTH Louis and Harry tell us the truth, we will never know it.
But again, at least i GET it now, why Louis has accepted Freddie as his. Him calling him his Son, his little Lad; dedicating Walls to him.
All of it, being seeded bit by bit until Louis was comfortable, and felt safe enough to finally publicly claim him, as his boy.
I personally feel like I shouldn’t have an opinion on stuff like that but that’s just me
im just thinking and i know we dont know what goes on behind the scenes isnt it a bit weird how eleanor and louis have been together for like 10 years yet weve never seen freddie with her not a single photo?? freddie has been seen with danielle and louis idk
I’ve thought that too. Eleanor is supposedly the love of his life, the one he is hoping to marry someday and we haven’t seen one single photo of them together.
She will supposedly be his stepmom one day.
@@threeangels9318 yeah it just feels odd, if they were really together, el and lou, wouldnt we atleast see one photo?? its odd that ur partner has never seen your kid
@@kai-gq1xythis is the best comment
Idk why, but i got a feeling that truth will come out soon.
i didn’t want to have opinions on babygate before so i just avoided the topic and watched cute larry flirting and sexual tension edits instead just because it was bigger than a harmless theory about them being sweetly in love but this is very fishy and i now believe that it was a stunt. it’s still very complicated and i don’t know how to feel because it’s very sad that louis had to pretend and i don’t understand their motives and it’s all very weird. this just reminds me how messed up the music industry is. just two boys in love spiraling into a whole mess involving a little boy? 💔💔
HELP THIS IS MY FAVORIT VIDOE EVER!!! I wanna send it to all my antis friends but they'll kill me
Freddie might not be his kid, but he still loves The kid dad or not. Probably in The same way i love my cousins baby
Without doubt Louis is Freddie’s dad
Obviously
I remember when all of this was going on (I was around 12 at the time) and thinking it was super random. I even forgot about it for a couple of years because Louis like never talks about it.
So here's my view!! NO HATE THO!!
So I didn't wanted to look into bbg but watched this video just for my information!!
So as a baby, Freddie didn't look like lou but now I think he kinda does!!
Plus remember that the hospital is a surrogacy clinic: I think Freddie is Lou's and hazza's baby through surrogacy!! Maybe it's true maybe not!! But whatever I just want them to be happy!
So TPWK!!💙💚
Oh my god, I love this friendgroup! Cool to see a new video!
been waiting for thisssss
From basically the moment joined the fandom I saw something was off…. I investigated and saw the truth. Thank you for making more people see the truth….
I don't believe in babygate. Looking at the whole picture, there's no way the "official narrative" with Brianna and Louis is true. Louis seems to have decided (whether by himself or pressured into by contracts or something) to have Freddie in his life though and act like a weird godfather/absent father figure. It seems almost like they are telling Freddie this official narrative and trying to raise him in this strange spiral of lies and PR. I can only hope that he is not so badly affected by this whole ordeal and, if Louis chooses to stay in his life, that it's out of a genuine love rather than corporate obligation or guilt.
I'm also curious about why Louis is shirtless in like 3 of the pictures with Freddie. It's probably not related to whether or not Freddie is Louis' kid, but it just feels kind of random?
i would just like to add the 4th verse of devin song “cold blooded” on the album which louis tweeted about enjoying
this is gonna be spicyyyyy
U shld add that devlin official album's song that louis tweeted! That's a great proof actually
while i still think louis is a father, this video was very informational. Thank you for not disrespecting Freddie
THANK YOYU FOR NOT BEING A TWARRIE. THANK GOD .
WOW!!! Thank you for changing my mind!!! Excellent job!!!
just like you said at the end about people who were around when bbg started - I’ve been a fan since 2012/13 and I remember all this going down, starting from the whole party boy louis thing I knew that was bullsh*t the way he was acting just wasn’t him at all and as soon as it was announced he was having a kid I didn’t believe it. Nothing matched up and the way he was acting towards it like it was ridiculous and it just got boring bc it was/is so obviously staged🤣
I might still be up in the air about whether or not Louis is the dad but Brianna is definitely not the mom. So I don’t know if this was a secret surrogacy or really just Brett and Tami’s kid.
we were waiting for this.