Awesome video! Didn't realize all addressable TrueAlerts had that shrill tone. I thought it was just the TrueAlert ES. I like the sound of the conventional SmartSync version a lot better.
I want to say this. Upon watching your videos here, I am starting to gain interest into fire alarms. I also watched your elevator fire service video. Let me tell ya, I LOVE elevators! :D I hope to hear from you soon.
Here's the system: Simplex Truealerts (Some of the Truealerts are on continuous while others do code 3) Simplex 2903-9001 with a Simplex 2901-9838 inside of it Simplex Mechanical horn/strobes (9217, 9219) Simplex TruealertES on code 3 Panels: 4002 + 4010 both on continuous
weatherdan882002 Hey there, I don’t know if you know me or not, but I was a BIG FAN of your videos!!! :D I hope you are doing good, and to hear from you sometimes later.
weatherdan882002 I believe you can just reset with using only one panel. So if you have multiple panels you can use just one to reset the entire system.
@@safetech Ah, ok. My high school had a 4002 interconnected with an EST3, and I know the 4002 would send the EST3 alarm, and once the 4002 was reset it'd go into trouble because the EST3 was still in alarm, and then once the EST3 was reset, the trouble on the 4002 would go away. I never saw the EST3 trip the 4002, but based on what you just described, it sounds like that's how they have it set up.
This is when Simplex stopped buying directly from Faraday, The 921* Series and the 920*(With the sole exception of the Simplex 4903-9202, the 4903-9405 brand, and the Simplex 4903-9401), Were phased out because Simplex Starting Producing Their own Horns, The 4903-9236 and The 4903-9238 brands are examples, as those were tests for The Later Truealert brands. The 4903 Based Electromechanical horns were rebranded Siemens UN-S17(Correction needed) Horns. Simplex Released the 4903-9238 and Later Before 2000, so those were sold till about 2011 or so. But was the first line of Simplex making their own products
@@damaniwilliams8219Simplex actually started to make their own products in the late 1990's when Simplex started making electronic horns. Those older electronic horn strobes were sold from late April 1998-October 2000 and the newer selectable ones are November 2000-present. Simplex also made the QuickAlert, what non addressable TrueAlerts were called between late June 1999-October 2000. Addressable TrueAlerts were also introduced in 2000, while the non Addressable ones were still called QuickAlerts before the selectable 4903s came out.
@@randomdude440They make selectable 4903s, 4 Wire TrueAlerts (4903s), SmartSync 2 Wire (4906s), Addressable (TrueAlert ES and 4906 retrofits). Selectable 4903s and 4 Wire TrueAlerts are used to replace older 90's 4903s. 4906 TrueAlerts are used to replace fixed Candela 4903 SmartSync models (QuickAlert/TrueAlert). TrueAlert ES replaces fixed Candela Addressable TrueAlerts and 4906 Addressable TrueAlert Wall Horn and Remote Strobes.
@@randomdude440Simplex still makes selectable 4903s/4904s, 4 Wire Selectable 4903 TrueAlerts, 2 Wire 4904 TrueAlert Free Run strobes, 2 Wire 4906 SmartSync TrueAlerts, a few 4906 Addressable TrueAlerts and the TrueAlert ES as replacements for older Simplex fire alarms. The 4903s/4904s comes in 15, 30 and 110CD models and for TrueAlerts it's 15, 75 and 110CD.
@@randomdude440 the older rectangular 4903 electromechanical horn/strobes. I would venture to say that they're 9219's, but @safetech will know better than I about this particular system.
Dosent that hurt your ears being in a big building like that or are you used to it 😊 this would hurt my ears I would be running for the exit door because I don't like fire alarms but I love your videos I sounds like they are singing one note all the time or being in a horror movie 😣☺
These are probably just QuickAlerts and TrueAlerts. There's actually no TrueAlert ES Devices, these are actually older TrueNac versions before the TrueAlert ES came out.
4002 Is Capable of Code 3, Its just not up to code, Because of the Long Pause between the last tone. So, Most Installers used Continuous(Non-Temporal), as a Coding option. A lot of places in my area Has Continuous As Current Code here for new installs(I Live In the Chicago area). And I’ve seen a Lot of new buildings in my area that either are Simplex Based on Non-Temporal with Truealerts, or Notifier/Honeywell Systems with Spectralerts on Non-Temporal. As in this video, The 4010 Classic was a very new install, and was capable of proper Code 3
@MinerMini2115 Actually, the 4906-92xx series are just a regular addressable TrueAlert notification appliances that predated the TrueAlert ES series. The TrueAlert ES devices uses a mixture of letters and numbers in their model numbers.
Reminds me a lot of the campus center at my friend's university, except they just have one Simplex 4100ES covering the whole building that has had some renovations over the years. The Simplex system started out as a 4100 set up as conventional with electromechanical 4903 horn/strobes. Then a few parts of the building were renovated in the last decade and had TrueAlert horn/strobes and addressable pull stations and detectors installed (they obviously modified the 4100 panel to have both conventional and addressable capabilities during the renovations), and then in 2013 they renovated the main lobby area, but they actually went with voice-evac in this area, with TrueAlert speaker/strobes, and they replaced the 4100 panel with a voice-capable Simplex 4100ES system. It sure is an interesting, if unusual, system, what with the mix of electromechanical horns, electronic horns and voice-evac, not to mention being a half-conventional/half-addressable system.
I like the 2903 with the 9838 at the beginning there should’ve been more of those but 4903s are great they where designed to replace older Simplex horns
Why do see of the alarms in the original section sound in temporal while the rest of the building is in continuous and why do the true alerts in the new addition have a higher pitch?
The Fairly OddParents I don’t think he’s from CT (I could be wrong) but that school has nothing special, just I believe either a Simplex 4010 or 4100 system with TrueAlerts set to code-3 like every other school in town (upgraded from a 2001 system with 9838+9101 combos set to continuous) except Vernon Center Middle which has an EST system of some sorts with Genesis’ set to code-3 (no idea what they had before).
Marc Leslie ok I think I understand. The truealerts running continues must be free run or have a module if they’re connected to the 4002. The 4002 can do temporal but it’s not up to code due to the pauses between pulses being a bit messed up.
@@dale4231 Yes. You are Absolutely Correct. The 4002 Is Mostly either on Continuous A Whole Lot, or March Time. In this Case, The 4002 was on Continuous in this Building(Old Section, all Zoned out, Grandfathered.), and then the Recently Renovated section Prior to this test(4010 Classic). Code 3 to meet Current Regulations. So, The 4010 Classic Had To be put in at least 4 or 5 years prior to this test, because of how well the newer Electric Horns Sound. The only difference with this system is that this system does activate in both buildings if one station is pulled(Regardless on which building it was in, Both Buildings will activate it’s Horn/Strobes). But the other problem is that You have to go to each building to silence its own panel.
Probably an ES because the Truealerts have a higher pitch than the normal truealert. They almost sound close to the Wheelock MT which means it's an ES device.
So that means the TrueAlerts are either 4903-9450’s or 4996-9227’s, right? I can kinda confirm this by slowing down certain parts of the footage to examine and observe the TrueAlert. The grilles on the TrueAlert es devices have a different look to them than the older TrueAlerts. I observed them and noticed that they look similar to the older grilles on the older TrueAlerts
In the older building, Yes, Because they were On Continuous, and It’s a older system. In the new building, They were in Sync, Because of the Very recent Upgrade.
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That symphony of horns and frantic flashing lights from 2:44 to 3:22 is just beautiful
Oh the new addition simplex true alert 4010 that explains why the horn sounds newer
Very nice systems. The 4002 installation seems to be in great shape and still working very well for its age. Hope it will last for many more years.
The sound of those 4903’s in harmony, is literally beautiful, if you can call It that...
I love the 4903s, but when they're in continuous they sound rather very scary.
continuous alarms are YEAHHHHHH
Yeah kinda yeah
Love the sound of this system
Love the sound of this Simplex system!! I also like the intro as well!! Keep up the great work!!
Thanks for viewing!
I love the intro too.
I really like that sound on the mechanical horn at the beginning
Continuous and code 3 sound cool together! Cool video
What a combo of Simplex alarms in the beginning! Woah
Great video 😉
Thanks for viewing!
Awesome video! Didn't realize all addressable TrueAlerts had that shrill tone. I thought it was just the TrueAlert ES. I like the sound of the conventional SmartSync version a lot better.
Yes they are quite different. Thanks for viewing!
The 4 wire versions are the best
I know I'm super late, but why is that 9838 at the beginning so low pitched and sounds like a 4903.
Oh I love those mechanical horns
I like the 2903 with the 9838 at the beginning of the video
I can't imagine how you deal with alarms set to continuous.
Earplugs probably
I want to say this. Upon watching your videos here, I am starting to gain interest into fire alarms. I also watched your elevator fire service video. Let me tell ya, I LOVE elevators! :D I hope to hear from you soon.
I will do a video of my collection for you soon :)
I know jim
Thanks for viewing!
@@safetech Hey can you do a fire drill test at my school? my school has those white spectralert advance
@@safetech you can test them when im graduated
Sounds a lot like the fire alarms at Warren Central. Them suckers are really loud.
This is what I call the craziest disco light show on earth
Late reply, but there is a 9805 in the lobby actually on a 4904 plate at 3:06 In case anyone missed it
That's actually a 4903-9220.
Here's the system:
Simplex Truealerts (Some of the Truealerts are on continuous while others do code 3)
Simplex 2903-9001 with a Simplex 2901-9838 inside of it
Simplex Mechanical horn/strobes (9217, 9219)
Simplex TruealertES on code 3
Panels: 4002 + 4010 both on continuous
Theres also a 9220 and a couple 9236s. But the horn at the beginning is a 9838 just very low pitched
The 4010 was a recent Panel, and as stated, The 4010 was a 4010 Classic.
@@Jenncollins_ i know. In talking about the horns
@@officialsimplexguy Oh, I didn’t mean you silly. Was referring to his post overall😊👌🏾
@@Jenncollins_ oh ok no big deal
Im wondering if you wear headphones or something when you test these alarms.
Nah. Have to be able to hear them all.
@@safetech dang. That’s rough.
So both panels will send each other into alarm upon activation? How does the reset method work, do you need to reset both at the same time?
weatherdan882002 Hey there, I don’t know if you know me or not, but I was a BIG FAN of your videos!!! :D I hope you are doing good, and to hear from you sometimes later.
weatherdan882002 I believe you can just reset with using only one panel. So if you have multiple panels you can use just one to reset the entire system.
Must be reset separately. I’m thinking they’re connected via monitor Zam with no re-alarming feature.
@@safetech Ah, ok. My high school had a 4002 interconnected with an EST3, and I know the 4002 would send the EST3 alarm, and once the 4002 was reset it'd go into trouble because the EST3 was still in alarm, and then once the EST3 was reset, the trouble on the 4002 would go away. I never saw the EST3 trip the 4002, but based on what you just described, it sounds like that's how they have it set up.
Hey safetech why did simplex discontinue mechanical horns??
This is when Simplex stopped buying directly from Faraday, The 921* Series and the 920*(With the sole exception of the Simplex 4903-9202, the 4903-9405 brand, and the Simplex 4903-9401), Were phased out because Simplex Starting Producing Their own Horns, The 4903-9236 and The 4903-9238 brands are examples, as those were tests for The Later Truealert brands. The 4903 Based Electromechanical horns were rebranded Siemens UN-S17(Correction needed) Horns. Simplex Released the 4903-9238 and Later Before 2000, so those were sold till about 2011 or so. But was the first line of Simplex making their own products
@@damaniwilliams8219Simplex actually started to make their own products in the late 1990's when Simplex started making electronic horns. Those older electronic horn strobes were sold from late April 1998-October 2000 and the newer selectable ones are November 2000-present. Simplex also made the QuickAlert, what non addressable TrueAlerts were called between late June 1999-October 2000. Addressable TrueAlerts were also introduced in 2000, while the non Addressable ones were still called QuickAlerts before the selectable 4903s came out.
Sounds like a lengthy test! How late/early were you working in this building?
Very early in the morning.
@@safetech i live literally down the street from this office. And i could hear them
Jotaro and Armani lol
Gotta love simplex
I Wonder if they still make simplex fire alarms today
@@randomdude440Of course they do. Why wouldn't they?
@@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire7554 because from what I've seen, I haven't seen much simplex fire alarms in newer buildings now
@@randomdude440They make selectable 4903s, 4 Wire TrueAlerts (4903s), SmartSync 2 Wire (4906s), Addressable (TrueAlert ES and 4906 retrofits). Selectable 4903s and 4 Wire TrueAlerts are used to replace older 90's 4903s. 4906 TrueAlerts are used to replace fixed Candela 4903 SmartSync models (QuickAlert/TrueAlert). TrueAlert ES replaces fixed Candela Addressable TrueAlerts and 4906 Addressable TrueAlert Wall Horn and Remote Strobes.
@@randomdude440Simplex still makes selectable 4903s/4904s, 4 Wire Selectable 4903 TrueAlerts, 2 Wire 4904 TrueAlert Free Run strobes, 2 Wire 4906 SmartSync TrueAlerts, a few 4906 Addressable TrueAlerts and the TrueAlert ES as replacements for older Simplex fire alarms. The 4903s/4904s comes in 15, 30 and 110CD models and for TrueAlerts it's 15, 75 and 110CD.
I wonder what would happen if a fire started while an inspection were the walk test mode was activated?
nice. Can the panels trip each other
It should.
Yes
Yes they can
I love the mechanical horns
love the alarms and loved the videos :)
Thanks for viewing!
Nice system. Some continuous others temporal
The Truealerts are Very new, As well as the Very new 4010 Classic
Great as always
Thanks for viewing!
I still think electromechanical horns sound more pleasant than truealerts...
I Wonder if they still make Simplex fire alarms today
@@randomdude440 they still make alarms, just not *these* alarms.
@@Kudlaty771 what alarms
@@randomdude440 the older rectangular 4903 electromechanical horn/strobes. I would venture to say that they're 9219's, but @safetech will know better than I about this particular system.
@@Kudlaty771 oh okay so simplex fire alarms are still made, just not 4903s
Do you wear headphones cause I would get a huge headache after i finished recording
was that the only 2903 lightplate in the system
The true alerts sound better on code 3
Cool horns fire alarm
Best sounding system in my opinion
what kind of place is this WTF? its like a weird industry hotel hybrid mix
This is a Large Office Atrium
Why didn’t you just put the system in walk test? Both of those panels have that feature. Or did you do that full alarm after walk test?
Mainly because I needed to get all the notification devices tested prior to the buildings opening. This was the quickest way to do that.
SAFETECH oh ok
Was that alarm at the beginning a 9833?
I think so. Either that or a 9838 horn i cant recall.
@@safetech yes. A Simplex 2901-9833 is the horn in the beginning. Why did i not notice that until a month later
@@armaniwilliams5752 that's a 9838.
Yep it's a 2901 9838 or 9846
MinerMini2115 that doesn't even sound like a 9833
I like the continuous and the code 3 mix..
Dosent that hurt your ears being in a big building like that or are you used to it 😊 this would hurt my ears I would be running for the exit door because I don't like fire alarms but I love your videos I sounds like they are singing one note all the time or being in a horror movie 😣☺
Great video 😀👍👍
I think this building had almost every generation of Simplex alarm! I’m surprised that the panels aren’t linked.
They are connected. Thanks for viewing!
SAFETECH I meant, that they’d silence each other. (I think the 4002 May be to old/basic to do that)
Correct. They do not.
simplex 4903's, simplex 2901-9838, truealerts, and truealertES's.
These are probably just QuickAlerts and TrueAlerts. There's actually no TrueAlert ES Devices, these are actually older TrueNac versions before the TrueAlert ES came out.
Tbh, i like the older setup lol
I love how everything is way out of sync at 2:44
Why the combination of continuous and code 3?
Different sections added/upgraded at different times.
4002 Is Capable of Code 3, Its just not up to code, Because of the Long Pause between the last tone. So, Most Installers used Continuous(Non-Temporal), as a Coding option. A lot of places in my area Has Continuous As Current Code here for new installs(I Live In the Chicago area). And I’ve seen a Lot of new buildings in my area that either are Simplex Based on Non-Temporal with Truealerts, or Notifier/Honeywell Systems with Spectralerts on Non-Temporal. As in this video, The 4010 Classic was a very new install, and was capable of proper Code 3
Why do those true alerts in the new addition sound different?
They are addressable.
@@safetech wow, ok. I didn't realize that being addressable would make it sound different. Crazy
@MinerMini2115 Actually, the 4906-92xx series are just a regular addressable TrueAlert notification appliances that predated the TrueAlert ES series. The TrueAlert ES devices uses a mixture of letters and numbers in their model numbers.
They're addressable.
Reminds me a lot of the campus center at my friend's university, except they just have one Simplex 4100ES covering the whole building that has had some renovations over the years. The Simplex system started out as a 4100 set up as conventional with electromechanical 4903 horn/strobes. Then a few parts of the building were renovated in the last decade and had TrueAlert horn/strobes and addressable pull stations and detectors installed (they obviously modified the 4100 panel to have both conventional and addressable capabilities during the renovations), and then in 2013 they renovated the main lobby area, but they actually went with voice-evac in this area, with TrueAlert speaker/strobes, and they replaced the 4100 panel with a voice-capable Simplex 4100ES system. It sure is an interesting, if unusual, system, what with the mix of electromechanical horns, electronic horns and voice-evac, not to mention being a half-conventional/half-addressable system.
Crazy System! I hope you'll enjoy your Christmas!
I like the 2903 with the 9838 at the beginning there should’ve been more of those but 4903s are great they where designed to replace older Simplex horns
Love the alarm systems
Thanks for viewing!
Why do see of the alarms in the original section sound in temporal while the rest of the building is in continuous and why do the true alerts in the new addition have a higher pitch?
These are the TrueAlert ES Models. They sound similar to MT Devices. All of which are set to code 3 for the sake of code
All newer devices are temporal per code. The new addition has addressable AVs. 4906-9227 I believe.
Shoot..back in 1996, continuous was code haha
@@aspenqwerty3 It Still Is In Some Jurisdictions. In my area, New installs Use Continuous With SpectrAlert Advances a lot, Just the Strobes are Synced
@@safetechI aquired a Simplex 4906-9227 today.
Did the 4010 addition has turealert es?
Yes they feature Addressable 4906 devices.
Nice video, Do you want next video on Fire Alarm Test at Center Road School in Vernon Connecticut?
The Fairly OddParents I don’t think he’s from CT (I could be wrong) but that school has nothing special, just I believe either a Simplex 4010 or 4100 system with TrueAlerts set to code-3 like every other school in town (upgraded from a 2001 system with 9838+9101 combos set to continuous) except Vernon Center Middle which has an EST system of some sorts with Genesis’ set to code-3 (no idea what they had before).
are those quick alerts???
Yeah I think some are
My favorite horn was at 7.54
The Simplex 9236's make this system louder. One of the 9219's were very bright.
It was a 9217 you saw that was bright
First comment and nice just letting the system sound as you doing the walkthrough.
Why are some of the Truealerts on continues and others on temporal?
Dale Nuss the ones on continuous are on the 4002 panel, the ones on temporal are on the 4010 panel
Marc Leslie ok I think I understand. The truealerts running continues must be free run or have a module if they’re connected to the 4002. The 4002 can do temporal but it’s not up to code due to the pauses between pulses being a bit messed up.
@@dale4231 Yes. You are Absolutely Correct. The 4002 Is Mostly either on Continuous A Whole Lot, or March Time. In this Case, The 4002 was on Continuous in this Building(Old Section, all Zoned out, Grandfathered.), and then the Recently Renovated section Prior to this test(4010 Classic). Code 3 to meet Current Regulations. So, The 4010 Classic Had To be put in at least 4 or 5 years prior to this test, because of how well the newer Electric Horns Sound. The only difference with this system is that this system does activate in both buildings if one station is pulled(Regardless on which building it was in, Both Buildings will activate it’s Horn/Strobes). But the other problem is that You have to go to each building to silence its own panel.
Some are 4 wire selectable TrueAlerts, whilst others are 2 wire SmartSync
Some are addressable too
How about Simplex 4100U in Center Road school
Or the 4001
love this system
Music to my ears I wish my high school had trualerts and 9219s but nope just a lame EST System with a quick start and Genesis horn strobes lame 😒
Is it a regular 4010 or a 4010es
Probably an ES because the Truealerts have a higher pitch than the normal truealert. They almost sound close to the Wheelock MT which means it's an ES device.
4010 classic
@@safetech Oh! Really? Ok! Guess I was wrong. Happy holidays!
So that means the TrueAlerts are either 4903-9450’s or 4996-9227’s, right? I can kinda confirm this by slowing down certain parts of the footage to examine and observe the TrueAlert. The grilles on the TrueAlert es devices have a different look to them than the older TrueAlerts. I observed them and noticed that they look similar to the older grilles on the older TrueAlerts
Yes you are correct.
You still see thousands of old Simple’s alarms still used to this day cause they last so long
What is this place called?
RIP Headphones user And Maybe Non Headphones user
The Simplex 2903 with a Horn is Very LOUD Like all Fire Alarms.
why so loud my ears almost popped
It's a "fire" alarm! It's supposed to be loud to alert everybody to get out!
You have the best life
All the alarms were very bright.
This has to be a Middle School.
This is a office
Cool!
Thanks for viewing!
@@safetech You're welcome :)
Sweet
Thanks for viewing!
The alarms strobes are WAY out of sync.
It's how the video picks it up..not the alarm
In the older building, Yes, Because they were On Continuous, and It’s a older system. In the new building, They were in Sync, Because of the Very recent Upgrade.
@@aspenqwerty3no the strobes are out of sync. Has nothing to do with the video
the truealerts sound like a siemens UMHU with a less gross pitch
I can name all acks in your intro: _Fire Alarm Ack, Priority 2 Alarm Ack, Supv(Supervisory) Ack, Trouble Ack._
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shoud older be on 120 bpm mt
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