From owning and playing both, I'd say that the CX-12 has a more gutsy, straight forward tone - that's what can be heard clearly in this video. I prefer the Seydel Saxony for delicate and melodious tunes with its more differentiated and multi-facetted way of sounding and playability. It is very responsive to nuances and can even be bended when drawing and blowing, but still with stable and not too sensitive intonation. Also little to no problems with valve sticking.
Do you have any idea about Lapel microphone with wireless system(min 200 ft range), which is suitable for live harmonica performance? The Receiver(wireless system) must be compatible to attach with 1/4" jack input amplifier?
It's great that you used to play Jazz, which I don't. I used to play basically Indian and sometimes western melody. You can go for any 16 hole instrument. I believe, chose steel reed, especially for it's almost life time durability, to avoid frequent tuning and the tone of course. But, don't have idea that the tone is fit for Jazz or not.
So many different takes on this..ie which one is better sounding? In my humble opinion the CX12 has a big gutsy sound. It kicks butt!! I was going to get a saxony Orchestra tuned but glad I listenend to this video. My Cx12 is on the way. Plastic case a disadvantage?...how??? I have heard and read many takes on the cx12 and nearly all owners love them. Reeds go out of tune after a year?. I do not think so but if you gig it once week play it hard and bend the notes to Mars and back then yes it will go out of tune. If you are gigging you are earning enough to replace it for new once a year? I am a bit biased though. I do prefer a bassy gutsy sound but thats just me. It is interesting to hear your views and how differently we take on this. No ones right, no ones wrong and no such thing as best!
If you drop the harmonica and the cover shell cracks (which it will) on the Jazz CX 12 Hohner wants $180 for a new one. This is a disadvantage . If only for the 2 holes below middle c on the Saxony I would choose it over the CX, If you don't need these notes that would not be a consideration, The Slide noise bothers me on the CX but I do love the way the slide comes out easily. The Saxony costs 100 bucks more than the CX,,, NOTE: There is a big difference between the Jazz CX 12 and the regular black one.. Ken
the Seydel sounds much thinner than the CX12 which sounds real meaty, i have a seydel de luxe steel which is ok. and a suzuki scx56 which plays real nice.
Thanks for your reply Ken. Wow yes $180 for a new casing is expensive. Mind you I think they double up in price for the jazz version anway. From my understanding, the inside business is the same . I am at a disadvantage as I cannot hear the top notes ( high frequencies ) on instruments including harmonica so I would be a bad judge on the Seydel Saxony as I am not getting the full ticket as others with normal hearing. The extra bottom end notes would be a advantage to me but as said the CX12 belts out the goods to my ears. Ideally I would call for a Cx12 Orchestra tuned starting with bottom G .
Saxony is just a great harmonica. I have been using Saxony since last five years, till now the sound remain same and no need to get it tuned. No idea about CX12.
@@RosieBrownie CX12 are very east to dismantle and to clean. They are easy to play, have a nice sound, and are perfectly suitable for Jazz. You need to get used to the mouthpiece, though but that is OK.
@@robertgrey2537 Hey Robert, I absolutely appreciate this comment from you SO much! ☺ I've been looking for a good jazzy chromatic harmonica that's sort of like the one you just described. *Thanks a bunch!* 👍🎵🎶
Sorry for my ignorance, but... What is the name of the song you play? Awesome playing btw. I own a cx12 tenor and I love it. Had to change a couple of windsavers out of the box thought because of excessive rattling on E F (hole 2). These low holes are trickier to get right!
Peter Cane. That is not a backing track. It is a loop that I made with a Boss RC 30 phrase sampler (looper) and a guitar. The “drums” are from the looper
@@kenLeiboff Great! Thank you for your prompt response! It’s much appreciated. I’ve ordered a custom Saxony G diminished. Looking forward to it’s arrival!
@@leogircha9625 I think that in this video you are hearing the lower octave that the cx 12 has and the Saxony doesn't. Unfortunat3ely Seydel does not offer Stailess steel reediest in low d . The Lower octave is defiantly useful.
Ich habe 2 davon , aber leider verstehe ich kein englisch ! Eins weis ich aber, hohner baut die besten mundharmonikas! Ps. Sie spielen hervorragend mundharmonika!! M.f.g. Harry
Q U E S T I O N , P L E A S E - P R O B L E M THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE CX-DESIGN CHROMATICS: Unlike the traditional-style chromatics, which merely need the cover plates removed in order to re-adjust any reed, the CX design is somewhat of a problem in that the slide is difficult to hold in place to adjust & play the reeds with the housing/cover removed. Has anyone discovered a solution to facilitating such type of maintenance to the CX-DESIGN chromatics? Thanks a million for any help.
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Excellent! Congrat's! The musician is excellent. What is the best?
Thanks for uploading this video. You've given me ideas for my CX12.
From owning and playing both, I'd say that the CX-12 has a more gutsy, straight forward tone - that's what can be heard clearly in this video. I prefer the Seydel Saxony for delicate and melodious tunes with its more differentiated and multi-facetted way of sounding and playability. It is very responsive to nuances and can even be bended when drawing and blowing, but still with stable and not too sensitive intonation. Also little to no problems with valve sticking.
Peter Cane. Too bad Hohner doesn’t offer “ orchestral tuning” for cx 12
Thank You Ken ...
Great microphone, sounds like I'm in the room.
Do you have any idea about Lapel microphone with wireless system(min 200 ft range), which is suitable for live harmonica performance? The Receiver(wireless system) must be compatible to attach with 1/4" jack input amplifier?
It's great that you used to play Jazz, which I don't. I used to play basically Indian and sometimes western melody. You can go for any 16 hole instrument. I believe, chose steel reed, especially for it's almost life time durability, to avoid frequent tuning and the tone of course. But, don't have idea that the tone is fit for Jazz or not.
Good answer.Thanks.
So many different takes on this..ie which one is better sounding?
In my humble opinion the CX12 has a big gutsy sound. It kicks butt!!
I was going to get a saxony Orchestra tuned but glad I listenend to this video.
My Cx12 is on the way.
Plastic case a disadvantage?...how???
I have heard and read many takes on the cx12 and nearly all owners love them.
Reeds go out of tune after a year?.
I do not think so but if you gig it once week play it hard and bend the notes to Mars and back then yes it will go out of tune.
If you are gigging you are earning enough to replace it for new once a year?
I am a bit biased though.
I do prefer a bassy gutsy sound but thats just me.
It is interesting to hear your views and how differently we take on this.
No ones right, no ones wrong and no such thing as best!
If you drop the harmonica and the cover shell cracks (which it will) on the Jazz CX 12 Hohner wants $180 for a new one. This is a disadvantage . If only for the 2 holes below middle c on the Saxony I would choose it over the CX, If you don't need these notes that would not be a consideration, The Slide noise bothers me on the CX but I do love the way the slide comes out easily. The Saxony costs 100 bucks more than the CX,,, NOTE: There is a big difference between the Jazz CX 12 and the regular black one.. Ken
the Seydel sounds much thinner than the CX12 which sounds real meaty, i have a seydel de luxe steel which is ok. and a suzuki scx56 which plays real nice.
Thanks for your reply Ken.
Wow yes $180 for a new casing is expensive.
Mind you I think they double up in price for the jazz version anway.
From my understanding, the inside business is the same .
I am at a disadvantage as I cannot hear the top notes ( high frequencies ) on instruments including harmonica so I would be a bad judge on the Seydel Saxony as I am not getting the full ticket as others with normal hearing.
The extra bottom end notes would be a advantage to me but as said the CX12 belts out the goods to my ears.
Ideally I would call for a Cx12 Orchestra tuned starting with bottom G .
Saxony is just a great harmonica. I have been using Saxony since last five years, till now the sound remain same and no need to get it tuned. No idea about CX12.
Thank you for sharing your opinion!!
I can't decide on what to get!
My old Swan 16 hole broke last year and I want to play jazz soooo bad...🎵🎶
@@RosieBrownie CX12 are very east to dismantle and to clean. They are easy to play, have a nice sound, and are perfectly suitable for Jazz. You need to get used to the mouthpiece, though but that is OK.
@@robertgrey2537
Hey Robert, I absolutely appreciate this comment from you SO much! ☺
I've been looking for a good jazzy chromatic harmonica that's sort of like the one you just described.
*Thanks a bunch!* 👍🎵🎶
@@RosieBrownie :) I have two: one in Bb very good for jazz and the other one in G.
Nice! It's fun!
Very useful, thank you:)
It’s your favourite tune sir.
Super ! Harmonica cx12 model ton C ?
D key. Both
Great nice video. What microphone do you use? Signed up
Gran bel video. Che microfono usi? Iscritto
The mic is built in to my Canon camcorder
Sorry for my ignorance, but... What is the name of the song you play? Awesome playing btw. I own a cx12 tenor and I love it. Had to change a couple of windsavers out of the box thought because of excessive rattling on E F (hole 2). These low holes are trickier to get right!
I’m just playing blues in D minor ..
Ken.
What backing tracks are you using please?
Details of where I can get them will be useful.
At a guess...is it the Aebersold variety?
Peter Cane. That is not a backing track. It is a loop that I made with a Boss RC 30 phrase sampler (looper) and a guitar. The “drums” are from the looper
Regarding the size of the saxony, is it about the same size as a 270?
Yes
@@kenLeiboff Great! Thank you for your prompt response! It’s much appreciated. I’ve ordered a custom Saxony G diminished. Looking forward to it’s arrival!
why i hear Cx 12 have better sound than Meister Klass and amadeus ? is it true ?
No. The CX 12 is good got the price but it would not be my first. Choice
@@kenLeiboff So why it's sound has more density & connectivity ?
@@leogircha9625 I think that in this video you are hearing the lower octave that the cx 12 has and the Saxony doesn't. Unfortunat3ely Seydel does not offer Stailess steel reediest in low d . The Lower octave is defiantly useful.
@@kenLeiboff You can get the Seydel Chromatic Deluxe Steel in Low c, Low d, Low e and Low f, I believe and a configurable version too.
Dear Ken
What is The Name Of This Song?
Ich habe 2 davon , aber leider verstehe ich kein englisch ! Eins weis ich aber, hohner baut die besten mundharmonikas! Ps. Sie spielen hervorragend mundharmonika!! M.f.g. Harry
Good Morning! key which of the hohner cx 12?

D
@@kenLeiboff Thanks.
Q U E S T I O N , P L E A S E - P R O B L E M THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE CX-DESIGN CHROMATICS: Unlike the traditional-style chromatics, which merely need the cover plates removed in order to re-adjust any reed, the CX design is somewhat of a problem in that the slide is difficult to hold in place to adjust & play the reeds with the housing/cover removed. Has anyone discovered a solution to facilitating such type of maintenance to the CX-DESIGN chromatics? Thanks a million for any help.
Full comparison here th-cam.com/video/2CkAKWabnVs/w-d-xo.html
Hohner has nicer harmonics - for pop stuff. Seydel could probably sound better on classical tunes.
Seydel saxony sounds much better, plus it's comb is aluminium made. so virtually unbreakable. Hohner cx12 s cover plate breaks off after a few months.
The Hohner one is better.