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The two gaskets is because the supplier is expecting the factory to have fitted the spacer! Still no issues with mine since fitting the spacer and a genuine pump. The Britpart oem one looks the same as the genuine and only lacks ‘made in england’ on the casting and the flash hasn’t been cleaned off the seams so hopefully is a good un. I had a spate of duff Delphi ones before this.
Yes that’s what I meant, a gasket for each side of the spacer. I’m guessing they expect the vehicle to have come with one from the factory, my 2005 parts book still has it listed on the diagram but NSP so would be interested to know when they were last fitted, the Wolf parts book doesn’t list the spacer but.shows too different numbers for the gasket and the picture is a 200 tdi lift pump!
I really hope the owner has been watching all these videos from start to finish, to see just how much work, time, and effort has gone into this. Nothing has been done unnecessarily. So, when they roll up to collect it and you show them the final bill, if they even wince, shudder, take a sharp intake of breath or try to haggle and get a few bucks knocked off, then you have my full permission to kick their arse from the bottom of the hill, to the top, and back down again. Yes, the invoice is gonna be a big one, but, well, that's what folk get for buying stuff that looks ok from the outside and who don't have a clue about mechanicals. This was more than _''Hello mike, I've just bought a Land Rover...can I drop it off tonight at 5pm...it's not running as smooth as it should, so have a wee look at it like a good chap. Also if you put new air into the tyres, change the oil, wipe the dust off the dash and give it a wash, then I'll collect it tomorrow''._
i was screaming at the screen at about 10 minutes in, saying "i dont care that the pumps new, its probably a dud, and the injector pump didnt have enough to overcome it" good on you for getting it going, she sounds like a good runner and the turbo sounds healthy and strong!
Once you’d secured the air filter as it was annoying you, I thought, that’s how a Land Rover is supposed to sound 😀. Never liked the dip of revs on return to idle either, not sure why. Great diagnosis, and amazing knowledge of Land Rovers, thank you for sharing it. The smoothest LR I’ve ever heard.
It's a simple two speed governor, takes a while for the soft idle springs to move the linkage specially when everything is cold. If the idle system was too fast acting you could end up with a choppy idle.
I remember many years ago, my mum's Triumph Spitfire was getting harder and harder to start or run right. Hours messing around with SU carbs, plugs, points and new fuel pump. Turned out, the original fuel pump as worn a deep groove through the camshaft! One good second hand camshaft and a weekend of scraped knuckles later, it fired up and ran lovely. In fact....it still does 🙂
I had a similar problem 2 weeks ago on a 200tdi Discovery. The pump worked fine when removed from the car but would not pump when fixed back on the engine! After much head scratching but knowing the pump was good I decided to fit a spacer, It worked, hand pump now worked, engine driven it worked! I can’t explain it but no problems since.
There should be a five mm spacer to fit between the two gaskets, NSP on parts diagram, deleted by Land Rover to save money on the 300 tdi. I haven’t had any pump issues since fitting the spacer to mine and it allows you to prime at any position saving faff.
@@jamesbarker4808 Interesting. There has been a lot of debate about the spacers fitted to some models. My Defender 200tdi never had one but the Discovery did. Ive tried both with and without and not noticed any difference. I fitted a new Delphi lift pump to the 110 just last week and debated whether to try fitting a spacer again, but couldnt find one.! Im pretty certain mike did a video about the spacer and carried out some tests a couple years ago..?
14:20 diesel came out of the filter when you cranked the engine. Maybe rushed things a little bit... should have give it another chance to the old pump. Anyways a new pump wouldn't do any harm. Congrats on that now running new engine!
Nice job Mike. I put a new fuel pump on my 300tdi just for the hell of it. I couldn't believe the improvement it made when running. Tickover and acceleration.
That motor sounds sweet! And on the up side, all that faffing about trying to sort fuel issues meant that engine got well lubed up on the starter. Not a bad thing, really. Fine job - nice to hear her running. 👍
I hate lift pumps! Two thousand cranks later and a push rod connected to ease pumping before throwing in the bin! I once replaced a fuel line with the only thing available which happened to be some clear homebrew siphon ziptied in a loop,didn't even cut it to length just left the loops in case it was needed in the future,works great and has the added bonus of being able to see the fuel and any contamination + gravity feed on bumpstart! I think I'd have drunk a whole bottle of jamesons after that:)
Or run no life pump at all! If you tee the fore and aft the pump with a check valve WHEN the pump the lift dies the injection pump sucks just fine. That way if it benefits you you get the extra pressure. But if it ain’t happening the engine still runs just fine.
You can also use one of those vacum brake bleeders to prime the injection pump on vw's maybe that will also work on a landy. I just put the hose of the bleeder on the return line fitting and bleed untill diesel comes out.
At twelve minutes in, I was sure that I could smell diesel. A similar thing but different happens when the fuel filter is changed and it is not topped up with fuel before being put back onto the filter body. If the lift pump is a dud and the vehicle has been running OK until the filter change it,s normally because the injection pump has been doing the job of the lift pump. BUT!!! of coarse you already knew that Mike, but not all your subscribers do. So I always fill filters including the fuel filter as you have shown in a previous video, and I test the tickler on the the lift pump to see if its a dud so that if it is, I can still run the vehicle and order in a replacement pump for fitting later. I am sending you half a dozen new laid Mike, I recon that you know how to suck em with out me telling you how. Great video shown with warts an all, thats the best way to teach people Mike. Best wishes and thanks from Yorkshire Rob. WHAT NEXT??????
Thanks Rob! You have to show it warts and all as others can learn how to work things out - the problem with this pump was, it drove in and was not a problem - no matter where the engine was, there was no feel on the lever to prime I am now convinced to fit electric pumps which are quite reliable and a similar price What next? Having a week off to tweak my heating system and finish decorating my apartment before the cold comes - I bought a new carpet almost 2 years ago and not had time to fit it yet!
@@BritannicaRestorations Good luck with the winter prep-work Mike. I am waiting for the carpet fitter to arrive, if not today, tomorrow. I will ask him to call and fit yours if you want. Keep safe Mike, it's no joke working in a garage when no one else is there if you have an accident, keep your mobile in your pocket just in case. ROB.
Well done Mike. That was all you needed after working on it all weekend. If it is any consolation, it made an interesting video for us. If you had just purged the lines and it fired straight up it would have been a very short "Start up video." From the short time we saw it running it seemed very vibration free and smooth. Looking forward to the test drive. Each time it comes back in for a service, you will be rewarded for all your efforts because it will run smoothly for many years to come.
@@BritannicaRestorations Very strange Mike. It's just one of those things. We know not to trust new parts but our brain still puts it at the bottom of the list because it is new. I am trying to think of what could have failed during the time it was off? A blockage? A wasp blocking up the inlet/ outlet with a nest?(wouldn't be the first time) Could the diaphragm had a pinhole in it when it came in and it has gotten bigger as it dried out? Even as I write these things, I am thinking none of them sound credibly. Perhaps a video taking the pump apart?
Mike you spoke the answer, you did the solution, electric fuel pump. I mounted my efp back at the tank before the sedimenter. The other benefit is no more suction leaks along the fuel line, without the fuel lift pump and the Wabco vac pump on the block there's heaps of space to work around the IP.
I had that problem with a new lift pump. Turned the engine by hand to try & find the point where the lift pump would work. In the end I just unbolted it from the engine primed the fuel system & bolted it back up. Thinking of trying the Fourby Fuel pump Spacer just to give it that extra bit of space.
Hi Mike If I attach a clear pipe to the lift pump inlet and place that into a 5li diesel container. Should the hand primer pull fuel up? When turning the key over, should the mechanical pump then also draw fuel up from the container. Mine does neither. Would this indicate a faulty lift pump. Thanks
Runs sweet, doesn't vibrate at tick over like most TDIs. Don't know how you get away without wearing gloves. Whenever I do anything near the lift pump I end up with cuts on the back of my hand. I guess your hands are "work hardened" 🙂 Graham
I am fed up of the lift pumps on these - can’t seem to find a decent OEM one (I wouldn’t even mind paying £100 for a strong reliable one). Is any one a stand out ‘better than the rest?’... Therefore I’m thinking a quality Facet 4-6psi electric pump near the tank is the way forward. Fit and forget. Keep up the good work, always love your videos. 👍🏻
I had a MGB with a fuel pump problem. You're supposed to inspect the points (2 sets of breakers) as part of periodic maintenance. Anyways, I went to NAPA and got a breakerless pump with similar spec.. Also, much quieter.
Know how it feels when it dont go to plan,l was trying to get my reverse lamps working today on the old 4bd1 County and end up buggering the relay,because the oil light works of the same relay l buggered that up.Bugger
What a faff! I hate those pumps, had an even weaker one on my series truck.. ended up adding an electric one as a backup. Can you do a teardown of the knackered unit? I'm guessing that the non return valve had blocked the whole thing.. but I'm curious why it died and stopped fuel flowing even with pressure on the tank...
hello mike,would like to see whats wrong with the lift pump.well done for getting it going sherlock holmes style.a bit cramped compared with the old 2/4 litre engine in the series 3.
Hello mr. Mike, how r you doing? Nice video, thanks for sharing! I have one delphi pump also. And I noticed that the manual lever is loose almost the whole course of it. In order to prime, you need to push the lever down and when it seems to have reached the bottom, you should press a little more, you will fell some resistence (if you can't move any further is because of the position of the motor). The lever will move just a little, like few milimeters further down. When you pull the lever back, it will prime. It is an awkard way to work, but it is how mine does. I was struggling with this when I changed my diesel filter. At 14:17 you can see the delphi pump working when you started the motor and the hose to the fuel filter was loose (it squirts a little). Cheers!
Had the same problem today with a brand new Delphi lift pump...... the operating arm that sits against the cam lobe was found to bee sitting 2mm higher than the old pump, resulting in the pump never coming off cam and allowing the pump valves to fully close. Maybe there is a bad batch. I have sent a failure report to britpart.
If you set the cam by looking inside the hole so its off cam and push the pump on leaving a gap try the leaver to operate the pump the spacer i made was about 4mm thick, my old pump started sucking air from the diafram and the lift lever worked ok but side by side with the new pump the arms look identical i think the internal ratio's are different and can over stroke the pump and damage it, alot of vintage cars you use shims to set the dosing volume on pumps, i think landrover forgot after the 200 tdi
@@BritannicaRestorations just remembered the injection pump can draw fuel past a duff lift pump and drive like normal only when you break into the pipe or runout of fuel you find it won't prime itself, hope this helps
Sounding good great job !! All that work then let down by a dodgy lift pump, typical. That looks like a nice watch too good to be wearing for work or is it a Britpart version ??
Sherlock Mike does it again, I had the same problem with the new Delphi pump I fitted to my RRC 300 tdi no way would it prime by hand I too use a 12v pump to fill it all up, although it will run with the delphi pump now but I am thinking of changing it to a oem pump. I noticed when cranking yours turned a lot faster than mine does what size battery do you have and do you think it would fit on the RRC. keep up the good work Mike.
Two gaskets as the original diagrams does show a spacer on the fuel pump. Deleted later to save money, but I made my own out of 3mm aluminium, just draw around the gasket and cut it out.
Hi Mike, not really related to this video, but can you replace the rear bearing carrier for the main box output shaft on an LT230 without changing the whole case, or is it line-bored like the main box? Some PSO messed it up good with a sledgehammer (well, he did drive it through Africa, which explains everything).
Sounds sweet mike. Nice job. But it was pretty obvious, from my arm chair, that the pump was buggered. Probably a bit of crap in a check valve, but I could hear the air when you were pressurising the tank, so maybe the diaphragm.
@@fastinradfordable I can't see what the big secret is unless there are two sets of books (cough). Come on Mike how much did you sting him for? Was it a fixed price job or by the hour?
You were thorough every where but should fitted new lift pump on assembly the new diesels here in UK eat seals and fuel creeps out of casting hole the diaphragm shrinks Good job simples landrover
Who would have thought 'Britpart' to the rescue! It's always the simplest part that stops progress. The reason their are two gaskets, is that on some vehicles there is a spacer for the lift pump. Checkout Neil Ensor Fourby TH-cam channel and website. Another one saved Mike.
Ayup there mike been loving your vids from the start but one thing thats starting to really Pee me off are these bloody adverts, can,t you tell them to do one? ATB and greetings from auld Blighty.
I’ve run my Land Rover discovery 300tdi injection pump for 9 years with no lift pump at all. And my diesel pickup hasn’t had a lift pump since new..... 1981. It was actually built in 1980. So it’s been 40 years and no lift pump. Nearly Half a century. The trick is if you want a lift pump. “TEE” after the pump to the tank outlet. With a check valve that is pressurized shut by the lift pump. That way if the lift pump dies the engine still runs. Your welcome for avoiding you or others being stranded in the future.
Edge of the seat stuff. You should have edited it shorter, left us hanging and made us wait until the next episode. At 14mins 20s when you're blipping the engine over there's a spurt of fuel out of the filter
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Dont forget to open the door, dont want you to die because of the fumes! Wish i had time to go through all your videos. Best LR stuff on youtube.
Thanks!
Get a flexible pipe you can run outdoors!
Even better. Hook up an exhaust fan!
You’ll be able to think clearer if you can breathe clearer
Love how the air filter clips do a wee Mexican wave when it starts.
The two gaskets is because the supplier is expecting the factory to have fitted the spacer! Still no issues with mine since fitting the spacer and a genuine pump. The Britpart oem one looks the same as the genuine and only lacks ‘made in england’ on the casting and the flash hasn’t been cleaned off the seams so hopefully is a good un. I had a spate of duff Delphi ones before this.
Or do they expect there is a spacer and need 2 gaskets - one either side?
Yes that’s what I meant, a gasket for each side of the spacer. I’m guessing they expect the vehicle to have come with one from the factory, my 2005 parts book still has it listed on the diagram but NSP so would be interested to know when they were last fitted, the Wolf parts book doesn’t list the spacer but.shows too different numbers for the gasket and the picture is a 200 tdi lift pump!
Two not too!
@@BritannicaRestorations sorry for intruding. yes the fibre spacer has 2 gaskets.
Mike.. next time in town, buy an outboard engine fuel priming bulb and some clear tube.. use it to suck through the fuel..
I really hope the owner has been watching all these videos from start to finish, to see just how much work, time, and effort has gone into this. Nothing has been done unnecessarily. So, when they roll up to collect it and you show them the final bill, if they even wince, shudder, take a sharp intake of breath or try to haggle and get a few bucks knocked off, then you have my full permission to kick their arse from the bottom of the hill, to the top, and back down again. Yes, the invoice is gonna be a big one, but, well, that's what folk get for buying stuff that looks ok from the outside and who don't have a clue about mechanicals. This was more than _''Hello mike, I've just bought a Land Rover...can I drop it off tonight at 5pm...it's not running as smooth as it should, so have a wee look at it like a good chap. Also if you put new air into the tyres, change the oil, wipe the dust off the dash and give it a wash, then I'll collect it tomorrow''._
Indeed he has been watching!
i knew it! Puuurrrred like a contented cougar. :)
Damp the pump and pass the diesel! Nice job Mike. Cheers for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
i was screaming at the screen at about 10 minutes in, saying "i dont care that the pumps new, its probably a dud, and the injector pump didnt have enough to overcome it" good on you for getting it going, she sounds like a good runner and the turbo sounds healthy and strong!
The pump was on the vehicle when it drove in - a Delphi replacement - why should it not work after being removed?
Once you’d secured the air filter as it was annoying you, I thought, that’s how a Land Rover is supposed to sound 😀. Never liked the dip of revs on return to idle either, not sure why.
Great diagnosis, and amazing knowledge of Land Rovers, thank you for sharing it. The smoothest LR I’ve ever heard.
Balancing the rods and pistons does pay off!
It's a simple two speed governor, takes a while for the soft idle springs to move the linkage specially when everything is cold. If the idle system was too fast acting you could end up with a choppy idle.
Britpart to the rescue. Bet you never thought you would say that!!
Nope!
I remember many years ago, my mum's Triumph Spitfire was getting harder and harder to start or run right. Hours messing around with SU carbs, plugs, points and new fuel pump.
Turned out, the original fuel pump as worn a deep groove through the camshaft!
One good second hand camshaft and a weekend of scraped knuckles later, it fired up and ran lovely. In fact....it still does 🙂
Just goes to show!
I had a similar problem 2 weeks ago on a 200tdi Discovery. The pump worked fine when removed from the car but would not pump when fixed back on the engine! After much head scratching but knowing the pump was good I decided to fit a spacer, It worked, hand pump now worked, engine driven it worked! I can’t explain it but no problems since.
Yes it is odd - this drove in and was a new Delphi pump - I shall investigate!
Not all locked up, Mike... here in NZ , specifically Christchurch.. not really in lockdown at all... near enough Covid free here.
Oh she does sound smooth and sweet, well done mate 👍👍
Yes it does
20:45 Lots of AC pumps were fitted with a fibre block between them and the engine in other cars. Maybe the two gasket thing is a throwback to that.
This was my thought also.
I was thinking the same thing
There should be a five mm spacer to fit between the two gaskets, NSP on parts diagram, deleted by Land Rover to save money on the 300 tdi. I haven’t had any pump issues since fitting the spacer to mine and it allows you to prime at any position saving faff.
@@jamesbarker4808 Interesting. There has been a lot of debate about the spacers fitted to some models. My Defender 200tdi never had one but the Discovery did. Ive tried both with and without and not noticed any difference. I fitted a new Delphi lift pump to the 110 just last week and debated whether to try fitting a spacer again, but couldnt find one.!
Im pretty certain mike did a video about the spacer and carried out some tests a couple years ago..?
Yes - I found the lift pump worked well on the lever with the spacer, but fuel pressure was down -supposed to be 4 psi
14:20 diesel came out of the filter when you cranked the engine. Maybe rushed things a little bit... should have give it another chance to the old pump. Anyways a new pump wouldn't do any harm. Congrats on that now running new engine!
Just. Shows you things fail even if they are new , great to finally see it running 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍👍👍👍
Strange thing is which threw me is that it drove in on that pump
Nice job Mike. I put a new fuel pump on my 300tdi just for the hell of it. I couldn't believe the improvement it made when running. Tickover and acceleration.
Good stuff
Sounds smooth and sweet ..... well done that man!
Much appreciated!
Wowwwww, this takes sanity, Patience and immense knowledge. Ts gonna be joy to drive.
That motor sounds sweet!
And on the up side, all that faffing about trying to sort fuel issues meant that engine got well lubed up on the starter.
Not a bad thing, really.
Fine job - nice to hear her running. 👍
Right on
I hate lift pumps! Two thousand cranks later and a push rod connected to ease pumping before throwing in the bin! I once replaced a fuel line with the only thing available which happened to be some clear homebrew siphon ziptied in a loop,didn't even cut it to length just left the loops in case it was needed in the future,works great and has the added bonus of being able to see the fuel and any contamination + gravity feed on bumpstart! I think I'd have drunk a whole bottle of jamesons after that:)
Yes, the quality of mechanical pumps are bad and you can get an electric pump for a similar price
Or run no life pump at all!
If you tee the fore and aft the pump with a check valve WHEN the pump the lift dies the injection pump sucks just fine.
That way if it benefits you you get the extra pressure. But if it ain’t happening the engine still runs just fine.
@@fastinradfordable yes I've got someone out of sticky veg oil clogged line situation doing that:)
@@BritannicaRestorations you could have an auxiliary hooked up to an if all else fails tank of jamesons!:)
I'm always stressed you're going to scratch that beautiful watch! lol
Nahh! Watches are made to be used! I have had this 14 years and it has had 6 straps (not Omega at $600 a shot) but the glass is still like new!
Nice engine rebuild Mike and a new heart and lease of life to the Defender.👍🏻
You can also use one of those vacum brake bleeders to prime the injection pump on vw's maybe that will also work on a landy. I just put the hose of the bleeder on the return line fitting and bleed untill diesel comes out.
Or use an electric pump
At twelve minutes in, I was sure that I could smell diesel. A similar thing but different happens when the fuel filter is changed and it is not topped up with fuel before being put back onto the filter body. If the lift pump is a dud and the vehicle has been running OK until the filter change it,s normally because the injection pump has been doing the job of the lift pump. BUT!!! of coarse you already knew that Mike, but not all your subscribers do. So I always fill filters including the fuel filter as you have shown in a previous video, and I test the tickler on the the lift pump to see if its a dud so that if it is, I can still run the vehicle and order in a replacement pump for fitting later. I am sending you half a dozen new laid Mike, I recon that you know how to suck em with out me telling you how. Great video shown with warts an all, thats the best way to teach people Mike. Best wishes and thanks from Yorkshire Rob. WHAT NEXT??????
Thanks Rob! You have to show it warts and all as others can learn how to work things out - the problem with this pump was, it drove in and was not a problem - no matter where the engine was, there was no feel on the lever to prime
I am now convinced to fit electric pumps which are quite reliable and a similar price
What next?
Having a week off to tweak my heating system and finish decorating my apartment before the cold comes - I bought a new carpet almost 2 years ago and not had time to fit it yet!
@@BritannicaRestorations Good luck with the winter prep-work Mike. I am waiting for the carpet fitter to arrive, if not today, tomorrow. I will ask him to call and fit yours if you want. Keep safe Mike, it's no joke working in a garage when no one else is there if you have an accident, keep your mobile in your pocket just in case. ROB.
Nice work and great video Mike.
I'm now at a point where if my pump goes I'll automatically go electric.
Have an awesome day.
Yes- maybe an electric in line with the mechanical?
Well done Mike. That was all you needed after working on it all weekend.
If it is any consolation, it made an interesting video for us.
If you had just purged the lines and it fired straight up it would have been a very short "Start up video."
From the short time we saw it running it seemed very vibration free and smooth.
Looking forward to the test drive.
Each time it comes back in for a service, you will be rewarded for all your efforts because it will run smoothly for many years to come.
Strange thing is Harvey, is it drove in with that new Delphi pump fitted
@@BritannicaRestorations Very strange Mike. It's just one of those things. We know not to trust new parts but our brain still puts it at the bottom of the list because it is new.
I am trying to think of what could have failed during the time it was off? A blockage? A wasp blocking up the inlet/ outlet with a nest?(wouldn't be the first time)
Could the diaphragm had a pinhole in it when it came in and it has gotten bigger as it dried out?
Even as I write these things, I am thinking none of them sound credibly.
Perhaps a video taking the pump apart?
Mike you spoke the answer, you did the solution, electric fuel pump.
I mounted my efp back at the tank before the sedimenter. The other benefit is no more suction leaks along the fuel line, without the fuel lift pump and the Wabco vac pump on the block there's heaps of space to work around the IP.
The green pump I used works well but the fittings are crap
G'Day Mike
Well Done matey, time for a Jameson or 2. Also I think you need to put a little bit extra on the bill for grief. ;)
Sounds real nice.
Drives nice too! Clutch is superb!
Victory!! It’s running again, purring like a kitten!! 😝
not really boss. no offense intended.
I had that problem with a new lift pump. Turned the engine by hand to try & find the point where the lift pump would work.
In the end I just unbolted it from the engine primed the fuel system & bolted it back up.
Thinking of trying the Fourby Fuel pump Spacer just to give it that extra bit of space.
Will you do an autopsy on the dead pump? Would be interesting to see how it failed
Yes I am going to pull it apart - it drove in with that pump on died in the parts box
Stuck non-return valve or dirt on the seat.
usually we just suck on the pipe going to the injector pump. old ways but always work
have no idea why he started reving the throttle so early? let it idle. i love his work but he burgered up
@@BritannicaRestorations boss i love your work. am in Kenya. why did you just start reving the monster so early? such an awesome rebuild
Hi Mike
If I attach a clear pipe to the lift pump inlet and place that into a 5li diesel container. Should the hand primer pull fuel up? When turning the key over, should the mechanical pump then also draw fuel up from the container. Mine does neither. Would this indicate a faulty lift pump. Thanks
Could be - see here
th-cam.com/video/LUoOr_GV1VE/w-d-xo.html
Runs sweet, doesn't vibrate at tick over like most TDIs.
Don't know how you get away without wearing gloves. Whenever I do anything near the lift pump I end up with cuts on the back of my hand. I guess your hands are "work hardened" 🙂
Graham
Yeap!
Thnx mate. That might solve my problem.
Happy to help
I am fed up of the lift pumps on these - can’t seem to find a decent OEM one (I wouldn’t even mind paying £100 for a strong reliable one). Is any one a stand out ‘better than the rest?’... Therefore I’m thinking a quality Facet 4-6psi electric pump near the tank is the way forward. Fit and forget.
Keep up the good work, always love your videos. 👍🏻
electric pumps like you mentioned work fine - best mounted at the back as I think they are a push pump
I had a MGB with a fuel pump problem. You're supposed to inspect the points (2 sets of breakers) as part of periodic maintenance. Anyways, I went to NAPA and got a breakerless pump with similar spec.. Also, much quieter.
The new style SU pumps are now transistorized
Know how it feels when it dont go to plan,l was trying to get my reverse lamps working today on the old 4bd1 County and end up buggering the relay,because the oil light works of the same relay l buggered that up.Bugger
Double bugger!
Well done sounds fantastic, I have enjoyed watching this come together 👍🏼🍺
Glad you enjoyed it
What a faff! I hate those pumps, had an even weaker one on my series truck.. ended up adding an electric one as a backup.
Can you do a teardown of the knackered unit? I'm guessing that the non return valve had blocked the whole thing.. but I'm curious why it died and stopped fuel flowing even with pressure on the tank...
I have no idea what was wrong - bit of a mystery!
On the classic mini's the mechanical fuel pump had a spacer block fitted to some versions🤔....gasket needed for either side on those....😊
Indeed - it seems there were universal pumps made and spacers of all sorts were fitted depending on pressure needed on assorted engines
Glencoyne engineering sell a fuel pump spacer plate for the 300tdi , he's very like you Mike, does conversions and servicing down in deepest Norfolk.
Richard is the writer of the Norfolk Garage articles in LRM. He has had a lot of problems because of pumps not having the right spacer.
@@nickboylen6873 yep, nice guy, did my 300tdi conversion, he's 240 miles away (in an ex military n/a ..) was worth the drive!
hello mike,would like to see whats wrong with the lift pump.well done for getting it going sherlock holmes style.a bit cramped compared with the old 2/4 litre engine in the series 3.
I will test it out
Hello mr. Mike, how r you doing? Nice video, thanks for sharing! I have one delphi pump also. And I noticed that the manual lever is loose almost the whole course of it. In order to prime, you need to push the lever down and when it seems to have reached the bottom, you should press a little more, you will fell some resistence (if you can't move any further is because of the position of the motor). The lever will move just a little, like few milimeters further down. When you pull the lever back, it will prime. It is an awkard way to work, but it is how mine does. I was struggling with this when I changed my diesel filter. At 14:17 you can see the delphi pump working when you started the motor and the hose to the fuel filter was loose (it squirts a little). Cheers!
No matter where the engine was or the lever position there was no lift prime
Had the same problem today with a brand new Delphi lift pump...... the operating arm that sits against the cam lobe was found to bee sitting 2mm higher than the old pump, resulting in the pump never coming off cam and allowing the pump valves to fully close. Maybe there is a bad batch. I have sent a failure report to britpart.
And they will do nowt! Ideal with them and although they give me an instant credit it is not good enough!
.....been on the dhelf for a long long time...mike was scared to put the lift pump on.
Use the two gaskets on the lift pump mike to spacer it out abit
Could be - remember the engine was not turned when I fitted the Britpart pump and it worked straight away off the lever
You need to put the spacer between the lift pump and engine to get the hand lever to work , as 200 tdi ,had same prob
Indeed but how did it drive before? I was told the lift pump was fitted late 2019
If you set the cam by looking inside the hole so its off cam and push the pump on leaving a gap try the leaver to operate the pump the spacer i made was about 4mm thick, my old pump started sucking air from the diafram and the lift lever worked ok but side by side with the new pump the arms look identical i think the internal ratio's are different and can over stroke the pump and damage it, alot of vintage cars you use shims to set the dosing volume on pumps, i think landrover forgot after the 200 tdi
I also use capheads to make things easier to get at
@@BritannicaRestorations just remembered the injection pump can draw fuel past a duff lift pump and drive like normal only when you break into the pipe or runout of fuel you find it won't prime itself, hope this helps
Sounding good great job !! All that work then let down by a dodgy lift pump, typical. That looks like a nice watch too good to be wearing for work or is it a Britpart version ??
It is a real Omega and if you do not wear it every day, why have it in a drawer?
15 years strong many straps but not a mark on the glass!
Sherlock Mike does it again, I had the same problem with the new Delphi pump I fitted to my RRC 300 tdi no way would it prime by hand I too use a 12v pump to fill it all up, although it will run with the delphi pump now but I am thinking of changing it to a oem pump. I noticed when cranking yours turned a lot faster than mine does what size battery do you have and do you think it would fit on the RRC. keep up the good work Mike.
Thanks!
Mike
Two gaskets as the original diagrams does show a spacer on the fuel pump. Deleted later to save money, but I made my own out of 3mm aluminium, just draw around the gasket and cut it out.
Or two gaskets supplied because there is supposed to be a spacer? Who knows!
Nice job mate!!! U would have made a fortune if you were to open a shop out here....cheers!!
Maybe one day!
See when you fixed the pump and it running why did it sound like the engine was about to cut out, is normal or?
air in the system
Engine sounds great mike,it will out last the land rover,pit you had no one to work the starter for you
Problems of working on your own like many of you guys do!
Hi Mike, not really related to this video, but can you replace the rear bearing carrier for the main box output shaft on an LT230 without changing the whole case, or is it line-bored like the main box? Some PSO messed it up good with a sledgehammer (well, he did drive it through Africa, which explains everything).
Are you changing one casing?
@@BritannicaRestorations I'd like to just change the bit before the PTO cover plate that holds the bearing race
any good oil on 300TDI tuning - mine off road for a while and a bunch of changes etc. where to start turbo boost EGT temp, fuel etc?
Sorry, but due to liability, I no longer give advice on tuning
Sounds sweet mike. Nice job. But it was pretty obvious, from my arm chair, that the pump was buggered. Probably a bit of crap in a check valve, but I could hear the air when you were pressurising the tank, so maybe the diaphragm.
The vehicle drove in on that new Delphi pump and I had the connector off the pump when pressurizing the tank just in case there was a defective valve
What sort of money will this defender owe the owner including the engine rebuild?
A lot!
Why so coy.....it would be interesting to know the costs...the labour alone must be eye-watering.
If you have to ask.......
You can’t afford it buddy.
@@fastinradfordable I can't see what the big secret is unless there are two sets of books (cough). Come on Mike how much did you sting him for? Was it a fixed price job or by the hour?
I guess the same as turners rebuilt engines then add 20% ish for fitting and fettling
Its crazy when new parts dont even work. So frustrating to have to pull apart all your work for something like. Engine sounds mint though.
Even worse when it was driving with that pump on prior to rebuild - no cause for concern
Chinese - they laugh and they laugh when they ship it out
You were thorough every where but should fitted new lift pump on assembly the new diesels here in UK eat seals and fuel creeps out of casting
hole the diaphragm shrinks
Good job simples landrover
I thought he said he had fitted a new pump.
@@gshort4707 OK that's unlucky you could test out of car
It drove in on a new pump - no cause for concern
Who would have thought 'Britpart' to the rescue! It's always the simplest part that stops progress. The reason their are two gaskets, is that on some vehicles there is a spacer for the lift pump. Checkout Neil Ensor Fourby TH-cam channel and website.
Another one saved Mike.
Strange thing is the truck drove in on that pump
Just a thought 2 gaskets one each side of the plastic spacer
seems to be..
Ayup there mike been loving your vids from the start but one thing thats starting to really Pee me off are these bloody adverts, can,t you tell them to do one? ATB and greetings from auld Blighty.
Sorry mate but beyond my control - use adblock
How much power stearing pump
A broken heart 💔
Hoobloodyrah .. squadron leader.. 😁
I wonder how many of us are shouting suggestions to you mike? I did but none were of any use!
I must have had the radio on...
I’ve run my Land Rover discovery 300tdi injection pump for 9 years with no lift pump at all.
And my diesel pickup hasn’t had a lift pump since new.....
1981.
It was actually built in 1980.
So it’s been 40 years and no lift pump.
Nearly Half a century.
The trick is if you want a lift pump.
“TEE” after the pump to the tank outlet.
With a check valve that is pressurized shut by the lift pump.
That way if the lift pump dies the engine still runs.
Your welcome for avoiding you or others being stranded in the future.
The check valve trick will not work here in Canada - cold diesel at -30c is too dense and cannot pass the valve - ask me how I know...
Are you able to delete the troll messages?
Just report them as spam, enough reports and youtube should delete them
cvrse off you go then
@@grahameroberts8109 Ive already reported them
cvrse thanks
Getting worse these days - should see how much junk mail I get....
Edge of the seat stuff. You should have edited it shorter, left us hanging and made us wait until the next episode.
At 14mins 20s when you're blipping the engine over there's a spurt of fuel out of the filter
I had to edit 4 hours if video into 20 minutes - there may have been past experimenting going on!
I really look forward to the video where the owner pays $$$$ drives off and the next morning it doesnt start - now that will be a fun video