Hey, first time I’ve got a video this early, I love this podcast, has helped a lot in my conversion to Lutheranism from a reformed/nondenominational background. Thank you, Dr. Jordan B Cooper!
Sidenote: it’s interesting to note that Catholics are starting to refer to Luther, Calvin, et al, as the “Protestant Revolution” instead of the Protestant Reformation; a subtle shift in language to actually make Luther’s motivation look less like a reform and more like a power play.
A list of Lutheran figures I would like to know: Martin Kemnitz, Johann Gerhard, Sebastian Bach, Christian III King of Denmark. I don’t know how much Søren Kierkegaard fits into Lutheranism, but he would be an interesting figure to learn about.
Johann Georg Hamann>Søren Kierkegaard. Hamann had an immense influence on Kierkegaard and in many ways he surpassed him. John R Betz has a book on him and you can find him talking about Hamann on youtube
@@paulc1391 I’m working on his Biblical commentary (London writings) which were very recently translated that I’m enjoying immensely. That bio I mentioned I’d say is another good option (a lot of his stuff can be hard to understand and is still in German)
I always find it so strange to hear that some clergymen were illiterate and/or didnt even have access to the Bible. Seems almost unimaginable. Really goes to show how unimportant the Word was to the life of a Roman Catholic before the renaissance.
Good point, but then I wonder how literate the first and second generations after the 12 apostles were. With the exception of the Apostolic Fathers, what access did most early bishops or presbyters have to the Hebrew Scriptures or to the nascent New Testament documents? Yet, they managed. This is not to make excuses for ignorance and illiteracy among the clergy, and of course these deficiencies were rightly corrected, I guess I'm just thinking out loud here....
@@drewpanyko5424the first generations were very close to the apostle, so much that tradition can be reliable, the protestant case is the long term effect of the tradition, not in the early times of the church
@@Luuuuan that's certainly true, as some of the so-called "traditions" were off the rails and running contrary to the apostolic witness by the late antique period.
A couple of thoughts: I have read that none of the extant copies of the 95 theses have a date and place for the proposed disputation. Is this correct? Second, I understand Luther first penned 97 theses, about two months before the more well-known ninety five. This earlier posting did not touch on indulgences at all, hence did not hit the RCC where it counted. No reaction from the Church on this one.
I’d advise an Anglican Church so long as it isn’t liberal, or a Methodist or Presbyterian one. Redeemed Zoomer has a list of Protestant churches on his websites map. Let me know if the link doesn’t work. www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1SRpkwF4hEaXZvor4BXyoAawrNVgH9CM&ll=40.43231745452842%2C-85.91231942492608&z=5
Good video. I wish you would mentions Luther's antisemitic statements and works near the end of his life since they regrettably had some impact on later Nazi propaganda and there are still some criticisms leveled against us Lutherans because of Luther's antisemitism. Anyway, Ryan Reeves also has made a multiple episode lectures on Luther (and also Calvin) here on TH-cam that go into more details on the points that were presented here in this video if anyone is interested.
It was common even in the Catholic Church to have anti semitic writings. It wasn’t until WW2 that churches started reforming the teaching on Jews. Luther wrote some terrible things, fortunately we don’t follow Luther the man. We follow the book of concord and the solas. God bless
42:00 It is baffling and equally expected how similar prosperity preachers are almost the same as these indulgence preachers. I wonder if there will equally be a reformation born out of this as was it then.
I was curious about your intro video. Obviously, the first image is Martin Luther nailing his theses to the door of the church...but who is the picture of the second bloke?
Intro in a nutshell - Eastern Orthodox perspective: Unhappy drunken German monk who tossed away his vows and got married. Creator of Protestant tradition and numerous heresies along the way.
@@WaylonElstad Some saints had some interesting quarks, they weren’t insane, but they had some beliefs that we might consider weird (Clement, a literal disciple of one of the apostles, believed in something called a phoenix).
@@bradleymarshall5489 Im not Lutheran, and I believe they’re both heretics, but I honestly prefer Luther over Gerhard. Luther was a pastoral person, and he had a funny way to talk about the pope.
Oh but you fail to realize that Luther didn't write the Antinomian Disputations (thanks Radical Lutherans!) Also I was not expecting a Chris Chan reference in a video of yours, but here we are lol
Pardon? He wrote 6 Disputations totalling 258 theses against antinomianism. These are his writings and they are well-attested to, since this was a major controversy surrounding Luther's home town (Eisleben). These aren't the only antinomian critiques or disputations, but they are the most famous.
I don't accept that Luther overstated things with respect to what he wrote in The Bondage of the Will where he argued the following: God is omnipotent and works everything including the evil things that happen. God has willed everything that happens from eternity by His hidden will. God foreknows everything from eternity. Everything happens according to God's foreknowledge. His foreknowledge necessitates everything happening according to what He has willed in eternity. Therefore everything is predestined to happen. People's lives are determined by God and He has predestined what happens to everyone. People are predestined by God to be saved and damned. Those God has predestined to save are irresistibly converted by the Holy Spirit. God withholds the Holy Spirit from those who He has predestined to be damned and their unbelief and sins damn them. In this life faith is needed in order to believe that God is just as God's justice will only be comprehended in the next life. In God's revealed will He desires everyone's salvation through the Gospel which teaches that Christ atoned for the sins of the whole world. God's hidden and revealed wills are opposed in that God by His hidden will has elected to save only some people not everyone, and has elected to damn the rest. The Formula of Concord didn't clarify Luther's teaching on predestination but basically overturned it because it stated the following: God doesn't will everything that happens as He doesn't will evil to happen. God foreknows everything but His foreknowledge doesn't necessitate what happens. God hasn't predestined everything that happens. God only predestined people to be saved and hasn't predestined anyone to be damned. The Holy Spirit tries to convert everyone through the Gospel. Those who are damned are damned because they resist the Holy Spirit. God can be seen to be acting justly in this life. God's hidden and revealed wills are complementary and not in any way opposed. I hold that what Luther stated is Scripturally true and what the Formula of Concord stated is Scripturally false
Luther wasn’t interested in an accurate interpretation of Scripture. His agenda was to provide evidence for his new theology which released him of the guilt that plagued his disturbed mind.
@@Andrew-wo8ryhe didn't, he either blatantly misunderstood the sentence about the hypostatic union (while talking about Zwingli vs Luther on the Eucharist), or is rage-baiting.
@@toilet_cleaner_man Yes, this is extremly unfortunate. I would certainly hope it was a misunderstanding, because other Christians intentionally trying to cause others to stumble through rage-bait sounds very sad.
@@Andrew-wo8ry it's beyond sad, it pathetic and sinful to be quite honest. However, I do hope they did just mishear the sentence, and take this is a sign to make sure you hear someone out before calling them out for something they never said. I myself have fallen to such misunderstanding before, so I do want to give them the benefit of the doubt and help them grow.
Hey, first time I’ve got a video this early, I love this podcast, has helped a lot in my conversion to Lutheranism from a reformed/nondenominational background. Thank you, Dr. Jordan B Cooper!
This was great!!! I want to use it in our school for Reformation Day! Thanks!!!
Thank you for all you do. I'm a Lutheran and I've learned a lot from your videos.
Was not expecting a Chris chan Reference
I wasn't either.
I literally just wanted to check today what you’ve got about Luther and you freshly posted this!
Looking forward to this video. Luther is a significant and fascinating historical figure.
God's righteousness is that which delivers me.. I love that.. ✝️ Glory be ✝️ to Jesus ✝️
Would be interested in podcast on "Bondage of the Will".
Sidenote: it’s interesting to note that Catholics are starting to refer to Luther, Calvin, et al, as the “Protestant Revolution” instead of the Protestant Reformation; a subtle shift in language to actually make Luther’s motivation look less like a reform and more like a power play.
A list of Lutheran figures I would like to know: Martin Kemnitz, Johann Gerhard, Sebastian Bach, Christian III King of Denmark.
I don’t know how much Søren Kierkegaard fits into Lutheranism, but he would be an interesting figure to learn about.
Johann Georg Hamann>Søren Kierkegaard. Hamann had an immense influence on Kierkegaard and in many ways he surpassed him. John R Betz has a book on him and you can find him talking about Hamann on youtube
@@bradleymarshall5489 thanks for the recommendation! I still plan on reading Kierkegaard, but what’s a work by Hamann you recommend starting off with?
@@paulc1391 I’m working on his Biblical commentary (London writings) which were very recently translated that I’m enjoying immensely. That bio I mentioned I’d say is another good option (a lot of his stuff can be hard to understand and is still in German)
Could you do a video on Martin chemnitz?
I'd like to.
Fascinating! Thank you. Actually more compelling than the movie
Great lecture
The comment on Chris-chan hit me like a freight train
I always find it so strange to hear that some clergymen were illiterate and/or didnt even have access to the Bible. Seems almost unimaginable. Really goes to show how unimportant the Word was to the life of a Roman Catholic before the renaissance.
The Word of God is in the Sacred Tradition of the church.
To be honest, some of the clergy were not trained properly. The Council of Trent fixed that.
Good point, but then I wonder how literate the first and second generations after the 12 apostles were. With the exception of the Apostolic Fathers, what access did most early bishops or presbyters have to the Hebrew Scriptures or to the nascent New Testament documents? Yet, they managed. This is not to make excuses for ignorance and illiteracy among the clergy, and of course these deficiencies were rightly corrected, I guess I'm just thinking out loud here....
@@drewpanyko5424the first generations were very close to the apostle, so much that tradition can be reliable, the protestant case is the long term effect of the tradition, not in the early times of the church
@@Luuuuan that's certainly true, as some of the so-called "traditions" were off the rails and running contrary to the apostolic witness by the late antique period.
@@thelonelysponge5029no one learns the Word of God from tradition.
Thank you for this video!
25-part series on Luther's life and thought when?
A couple of thoughts: I have read that none of the extant copies of the 95 theses have a date and place for the proposed disputation. Is this correct? Second, I understand Luther first penned 97 theses, about two months before the more well-known ninety five. This earlier posting did not touch on indulgences at all, hence did not hit the RCC where it counted. No reaction from the Church on this one.
Thank you for all these courses, I sadly dont have any lutheran church nearby, which is kinda sad but anyways, God bless
I’d advise an Anglican Church so long as it isn’t liberal, or a Methodist or Presbyterian one. Redeemed Zoomer has a list of Protestant churches on his websites map. Let me know if the link doesn’t work. www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1SRpkwF4hEaXZvor4BXyoAawrNVgH9CM&ll=40.43231745452842%2C-85.91231942492608&z=5
Good video. I wish you would mentions Luther's antisemitic statements and works near the end of his life since they regrettably had some impact on later Nazi propaganda and there are still some criticisms leveled against us Lutherans because of Luther's antisemitism. Anyway, Ryan Reeves also has made a multiple episode lectures on Luther (and also Calvin) here on TH-cam that go into more details on the points that were presented here in this video if anyone is interested.
It was common even in the Catholic Church to have anti semitic writings. It wasn’t until WW2 that churches started reforming the teaching on Jews. Luther wrote some terrible things, fortunately we don’t follow Luther the man. We follow the book of concord and the solas. God bless
@@rickdockery9620What a floppy cop out. SMH.
42:00 It is baffling and equally expected how similar prosperity preachers are almost the same as these indulgence preachers. I wonder if there will equally be a reformation born out of this as was it then.
I poked around a bit and did not come across a copy of "Against Latomus" for sale.
How many part series would the long introduction to Martin Luther be?😅
It could be quite long, for sure.
I was curious about your intro video. Obviously, the first image is Martin Luther nailing his theses to the door of the church...but who is the picture of the second bloke?
Intro in a nutshell - Eastern Orthodox perspective: Unhappy drunken German monk who tossed away his vows and got married. Creator of Protestant tradition and numerous heresies along the way.
Yo, why don’t Lutherans venerate Martin Luther? Isn’t he basically seen as an important church father in your tradition?
He went a bit crazy as well.
@@WaylonElstad Some saints had some interesting quarks, they weren’t insane, but they had some beliefs that we might consider weird (Clement, a literal disciple of one of the apostles, believed in something called a phoenix).
Johann Gerhard>Martin Luther
@@bradleymarshall5489 Im not Lutheran, and I believe they’re both heretics, but I honestly prefer Luther over Gerhard. Luther was a pastoral person, and he had a funny way to talk about the pope.
@@thelonelysponge5029Gerhard is so much better lol.
Oh but you fail to realize that Luther didn't write the Antinomian Disputations (thanks Radical Lutherans!)
Also I was not expecting a Chris Chan reference in a video of yours, but here we are lol
Pardon? He wrote 6 Disputations totalling 258 theses against antinomianism. These are his writings and they are well-attested to, since this was a major controversy surrounding Luther's home town (Eisleben). These aren't the only antinomian critiques or disputations, but they are the most famous.
@@toilet_cleaner_man oh I'm joking. There's a paper by Steven Paulson where he actually argued this. I've read the disputations; they're great!
@@jaredmindel5068 oh my days, I'm sorry 😆 I guess my in-humor for internet Christianity is lacking recently.
Can we discuss Luther’s extreme hatred for Jews?..
He wasn't perfect just like the rest of us.
@ I would never teach people that Jews should be killed.
You may be like him but I’m not.
I don't accept that Luther overstated things with respect to what he wrote in The Bondage of the Will where he argued the following:
God is omnipotent and works everything including the evil things that happen.
God has willed everything that happens from eternity by His hidden will.
God foreknows everything from eternity.
Everything happens according to God's foreknowledge.
His foreknowledge necessitates everything happening according to what He has willed in eternity.
Therefore everything is predestined to happen.
People's lives are determined by God and He has predestined what happens to everyone.
People are predestined by God to be saved and damned.
Those God has predestined to save are irresistibly converted by the Holy Spirit.
God withholds the Holy Spirit from those who He has predestined to be damned and their unbelief and sins damn them.
In this life faith is needed in order to believe that God is just as God's justice will only be comprehended in the next life.
In God's revealed will He desires everyone's salvation through the Gospel which teaches that Christ atoned for the sins of the whole world.
God's hidden and revealed wills are opposed in that God by His hidden will has elected to save only some people not everyone, and has elected to damn the rest.
The Formula of Concord didn't clarify Luther's teaching on predestination but basically overturned it because it stated the following:
God doesn't will everything that happens as He doesn't will evil to happen.
God foreknows everything but His foreknowledge doesn't necessitate what happens.
God hasn't predestined everything that happens.
God only predestined people to be saved and hasn't predestined anyone to be damned.
The Holy Spirit tries to convert everyone through the Gospel.
Those who are damned are damned because they resist the Holy Spirit.
God can be seen to be acting justly in this life.
God's hidden and revealed wills are complementary and not in any way opposed.
I hold that what Luther stated is Scripturally true and what the Formula of Concord stated is Scripturally false
Luther wasn’t interested in an accurate interpretation of Scripture.
His agenda was to provide evidence for his new theology which released him of the guilt that plagued his disturbed mind.
Jesus isn't fallen and neither is his body OMG I can't believe you just said that.
Where did he say that?
@@Andrew-wo8ryhe didn't, he either blatantly misunderstood the sentence about the hypostatic union (while talking about Zwingli vs Luther on the Eucharist), or is rage-baiting.
@@toilet_cleaner_man Yes, this is extremly unfortunate. I would certainly hope it was a misunderstanding, because other Christians intentionally trying to cause others to stumble through rage-bait sounds very sad.
@@Andrew-wo8ry it's beyond sad, it pathetic and sinful to be quite honest. However, I do hope they did just mishear the sentence, and take this is a sign to make sure you hear someone out before calling them out for something they never said. I myself have fallen to such misunderstanding before, so I do want to give them the benefit of the doubt and help them grow.
The Luther heretic and Muslim heretic together fight against the Roman catholic Church , also to defeat the pope and conquer the land
Booo Luther stinks
The Pharisees hated jesus as much as the Catholics hated luther lol
@@doomer12345 yeah yeah Luther still stinks
@@doomer12345True but Catholics have good reason to hate Luther. He was extremely evil.
Could you make a video on Martin Bucer?