I think Tyr is gonna turn out to be anathema to The Titans, because he is going to go out into the world and see how much it has changed outside of titan influence, constructs changing into mortal races of flesh and blood and even mortal races that have changed since his death, I also believe that he is keeper that has the most compassion for the mortal races of Azeroth, strikingly similar to how Tyrael ( I also believe it isn't a coincidence that TYRael is the Archangel of Justice ) in Diablo is the only one of Angiris council that truly cares about the nephilim, even going so far as to becoming mortal when it was apparent that the other angels gave zero fucks.
Loved this questline, hopefully we'll have more like it in the future. Would love anything regarding The Scarlet Crusade, wanted a follow up to the pamphlets that they're released ages ago.
i definitely think that was Blizzard stating that the Scarlets are not completely gone and that they will return one day soon, if Anduin comes home after TWW, then that would give the tabloids released by the Scarlets merit, but i dont think that we will see them until The Last Titan, because that's Northrend and the Scourge still exist in Northrend.
Uh actually theyre back. In the retaking of gilneas we are going to see more of the scarlet crusade once again. That patch is coming very soon or it's already out. I forget cus I haven't been able to play recently
Another interesting thing he says is that the titans are responsible for "much" of the good, not of all, that can be interpreted as him not approving everything they do but sticking with them for "the greater good" or that recognizes that forces other than the titans are capable of doing good, or both.
I think the more accurate interpretation is that he recognizes there are good things that came from other forces - possibly even the old gods. That contrasts with the book where Odyn says they should claim all good things.
@GustavoNoronha sounds right to me. Tyr did appreciate or have some modicum of endearment towards mortals. If the curse of flesh is to do with the old gods, maybe he thinks that's a good thing. Idk. My lore knowledge ain't the best so correct me if need be.
Given that Tyr is disassociating with the entire plan of the Titan's it seems that he might be changing and open to what Azeroth and the mortals want. I think Blizzard is setting him up to be an ally against the Titans, and to change his philosophy.
Tyr has always had a soft spot for mortalkind, he gave his life to protect the Vrykul from the Void, he is more "For Azeroth" than "For Order" and if he had to choose sides, i really think he would side with us.
"I should've gotten a gold hand instead, much better resale value." It's a damn shame no one hears things like this because they just don't explore the game a little more.
i think it is good that Tyr is back, and let me tell you why i say that. it's because when Tyr died, he didnt die in the name of Order, he died protecting the Vrykul, who would eventually become Humans. Tyr is a Titan Keeper, but he holds attachments to the children of Azeroth, which is something that cant be said by any of the Titans themselves. if it came to where he would have to choose Order or US, i believe that he would choose US, you know what i mean? i think the rest of Order is lost to cold logic whereas Tyr feels things, now whether i am right or wrong, that is for time to decide and ultimately show.
It makes me confused about what titan keepers even are if they can hold those feelings for mortals like vrykul. I thought they were basically order robots. Although, not a single keeper acts like a robot. That mother thing from uldir acted like one, but is she a keeper? Sorry for the questions lol
He also embodies Justice. Fighting with mortals against evil forces is Justice. We will have to see which side he chooses when the Titans decide mortals need some cleansing.
I'm hoping that since we reforged Tyr hes been severed from the titans control. That in combination with the fact that he seems to be unsure about the titans and his care for mortals make me think he'll turn on the titans.
It just really bugs me how Alexstraza is all buddy, buddy with Tyr now that his is back. Completely undoes the "lessons" she supposedly learned during DF. The Draconian rebellion, everything with Vyrannoth, and the fact the dragons are now Aspects of Azeroth- not the Titans. Her dedication to Tyr and the Titan cause the rift Dragons, protodrakes, the Incarnates, and the Draconian. I get they wanted this story line to set up the new Tyr's guard- but a few more choice word and reflection in Alexstraza voice could have sold it without going into detail. Just a hint she was going to bring up the ordering of dragons in the shell is an abomination to freewill. She has learned nothing and keep repeating same platitudes. Honey to hear, poison to taste.
I love the Nightborne just like the Dracthyr! I feel so sad for Runas, I loved his whole questline! I wonder if anything changes if you come here as a Nightborne!?! Arcane is Order Magic! All of Nightborne Society is Arcane Order Magic! Amirdrassil is literally a bridge between The Emerald Dream & The Shadow Lands - Life & Death! So, two realms that were separate are now connected! I think Tyr will be the actual Last Titan! I think the others will be destroyed in the Shadow invasion during Midnight!
Oda definitely has woven quite a tapestry with One Piece, but it didnt start that way, it's very to the numbers Shonen at first, at least far as the East Blue Saga is concerned, then it starts ramping up.
@@UltimateGamerCC indeed. And now where the story is it is INSANE. Oda is truly a genius. One of the only stories I’ve ever been enjoying that the retcons don’t feel like retcons. Just additional information.
Xalatath is in SoD i guess they set SoD up for a different timeline so they can make "new" Content for SoD /classic. and also expand the lore for Retail, i love the idea of that :D
Actually if you go to the amirdrassil tree without to enter from the portal and if you finished the quest after the raid, you can find tyr close to the tree and he has a short dialogue with Koranos.😮
hey Pyro, you talk as if we're gonna fight two cosmic forces in the same expansion, but that's madness, we will let the Light assist us in stopping the Void, then take care of the Light another time, taking on two Cosmic forces at once would be asking to fail.
I feel like Pyro is way too suspicious of the Light. Obviously there also bad Light-users, but both Tyr and the Tyr’s guard seem like such good guys, come on. I hope they won’t turn them into villains.
Tyr literally experimented on proto dragons, lied about the aspects power, used fear to coerce the aspects to force order magic on not just whelplings but helps STILL INSIDE EGGS. He is also likely the one responsible for creating galakrond by infusing him with decay magic like he did fire, frost, earth, and air magic and didnt bother telling the other dragons, likely because he still wanted to use them. He is not all good, hes barely better than odyn.
The good thing about Tyr is that he is showing a capacity for learning and changing. I think they are doing a good thing showing him in contrast to Oydn who doesn't budge on anything. It would be interesting to see a side story of another planet where Titan' set up a different band of Titan keepers on another planet while the Titan's were active. What did the Titan' do to Keepers strayed from their set missions?
I think Tyr is gonna turn out to be anathema to The Titans, because he is going to go out into the world and see how much it has changed outside of titan influence, constructs changing into mortal races of flesh and blood and even mortal races that have changed since his death, I also believe that he is keeper that has the most compassion for the mortal races of Azeroth, strikingly similar to how Tyrael ( I also believe it isn't a coincidence that TYRael is the Archangel of Justice ) in Diablo is the only one of Angiris council that truly cares about the nephilim, even going so far as to becoming mortal when it was apparent that the other angels gave zero fucks.
Loved this questline, hopefully we'll have more like it in the future. Would love anything regarding The Scarlet Crusade, wanted a follow up to the pamphlets that they're released ages ago.
i definitely think that was Blizzard stating that the Scarlets are not completely gone and that they will return one day soon, if Anduin comes home after TWW, then that would give the tabloids released by the Scarlets merit, but i dont think that we will see them until The Last Titan, because that's Northrend and the Scourge still exist in Northrend.
Uh actually theyre back. In the retaking of gilneas we are going to see more of the scarlet crusade once again. That patch is coming very soon or it's already out. I forget cus I haven't been able to play recently
we also saw them attacking Lordaeron, but i meant more that they'd be a major secondary threat in The Last Titan.@@hobosnake1
Another interesting thing he says is that the titans are responsible for "much" of the good, not of all, that can be interpreted as him not approving everything they do but sticking with them for "the greater good" or that recognizes that forces other than the titans are capable of doing good, or both.
I think the more accurate interpretation is that he recognizes there are good things that came from other forces - possibly even the old gods. That contrasts with the book where Odyn says they should claim all good things.
@GustavoNoronha sounds right to me. Tyr did appreciate or have some modicum of endearment towards mortals. If the curse of flesh is to do with the old gods, maybe he thinks that's a good thing. Idk. My lore knowledge ain't the best so correct me if need be.
Given that Tyr is disassociating with the entire plan of the Titan's it seems that he might be changing and open to what Azeroth and the mortals want. I think Blizzard is setting him up to be an ally against the Titans, and to change his philosophy.
Tyr has always had a soft spot for mortalkind, he gave his life to protect the Vrykul from the Void, he is more "For Azeroth" than "For Order" and if he had to choose sides, i really think he would side with us.
I can totally see Tyr as being our ally against the other Titan keepers who are still loyal to their masters in the Last Titan expansion
I think Tyr is like Prometheus of Greek mythology
He is the keeper of Justice. Fighting against mortals would not be justice.
@@mr.meatsoup5639 Exactly, just like Tyrael in Diablo.
"I should've gotten a gold hand instead, much better resale value." It's a damn shame no one hears things like this because they just don't explore the game a little more.
It almost implies there's just /one/ Elisande, and she can pass between timeways(as she calls them) with little to no fuss.
oh, also now done this, time for the Amidrassil epilogues :D
i think it is good that Tyr is back, and let me tell you why i say that. it's because when Tyr died, he didnt die in the name of Order, he died protecting the Vrykul, who would eventually become Humans. Tyr is a Titan Keeper, but he holds attachments to the children of Azeroth, which is something that cant be said by any of the Titans themselves. if it came to where he would have to choose Order or US, i believe that he would choose US, you know what i mean? i think the rest of Order is lost to cold logic whereas Tyr feels things, now whether i am right or wrong, that is for time to decide and ultimately show.
It makes me confused about what titan keepers even are if they can hold those feelings for mortals like vrykul. I thought they were basically order robots. Although, not a single keeper acts like a robot. That mother thing from uldir acted like one, but is she a keeper? Sorry for the questions lol
He also embodies Justice. Fighting with mortals against evil forces is Justice. We will have to see which side he chooses when the Titans decide mortals need some cleansing.
I'm hoping that since we reforged Tyr hes been severed from the titans control. That in combination with the fact that he seems to be unsure about the titans and his care for mortals make me think he'll turn on the titans.
Yeeees Pyro! Walk with the Light! For Tyr!🤩
It just really bugs me how Alexstraza is all buddy, buddy with Tyr now that his is back. Completely undoes the "lessons" she supposedly learned during DF. The Draconian rebellion, everything with Vyrannoth, and the fact the dragons are now Aspects of Azeroth- not the Titans. Her dedication to Tyr and the Titan cause the rift Dragons, protodrakes, the Incarnates, and the Draconian. I get they wanted this story line to set up the new Tyr's guard- but a few more choice word and reflection in Alexstraza voice could have sold it without going into detail. Just a hint she was going to bring up the ordering of dragons in the shell is an abomination to freewill. She has learned nothing and keep repeating same platitudes. Honey to hear, poison to taste.
I love the Nightborne just like the Dracthyr! I feel so sad for Runas, I loved his whole questline! I wonder if anything changes if you come here as a Nightborne!?! Arcane is Order Magic! All of Nightborne Society is Arcane Order Magic! Amirdrassil is literally a bridge between The Emerald Dream & The Shadow Lands - Life & Death! So, two realms that were separate are now connected! I think Tyr will be the actual Last Titan! I think the others will be destroyed in the Shadow invasion during Midnight!
I have to wonder if Tyr really didnt recognized the Drainei or if he paused because it didnt make sense to him that one was on Azeroth.
5 fingers of the silver hand
Pyro have you ever tried One Piece? The theories you could craft around that master piece would make your mind spin
I'd pay to watch that
Oda definitely has woven quite a tapestry with One Piece, but it didnt start that way, it's very to the numbers Shonen at first, at least far as the East Blue Saga is concerned, then it starts ramping up.
@@UltimateGamerCC indeed. And now where the story is it is INSANE. Oda is truly a genius. One of the only stories I’ve ever been enjoying that the retcons don’t feel like retcons. Just additional information.
@@n0fail literally. I already watch OP theory videos like a mad man…Pyro would send me off the deep end looool
Xalatath is in SoD
i guess they set SoD up for a different timeline so they can make "new" Content for SoD /classic.
and also expand the lore for Retail, i love the idea of that :D
Actually if you go to the amirdrassil tree without to enter from the portal and if you finished the quest after the raid, you can find tyr close to the tree and he has a short dialogue with Koranos.😮
hey Pyro, you talk as if we're gonna fight two cosmic forces in the same expansion, but that's madness, we will let the Light assist us in stopping the Void, then take care of the Light another time, taking on two Cosmic forces at once would be asking to fail.
I think when we fight Titans, Tyr is gonna be on our side
And dude imagine Tyr vs Odin, Guy on side of azeroth vs pawn of titans
what is azeroth is like the sun (center of a solar system)
I feel like Pyro is way too suspicious of the Light. Obviously there also bad Light-users, but both Tyr and the Tyr’s guard seem like such good guys, come on. I hope they won’t turn them into villains.
Tyr literally experimented on proto dragons, lied about the aspects power, used fear to coerce the aspects to force order magic on not just whelplings but helps STILL INSIDE EGGS.
He is also likely the one responsible for creating galakrond by infusing him with decay magic like he did fire, frost, earth, and air magic and didnt bother telling the other dragons, likely because he still wanted to use them.
He is not all good, hes barely better than odyn.
The good thing about Tyr is that he is showing a capacity for learning and changing. I think they are doing a good thing showing him in contrast to Oydn who doesn't budge on anything. It would be interesting to see a side story of another planet where Titan' set up a different band of Titan keepers on another planet while the Titan's were active. What did the Titan' do to Keepers strayed from their set missions?
Tyr vs Odyn in one of the next 3 expansions! 👍👍
Wait, why is Elisande so big? She’s like raid boss size in that cinematic. Lol
aight hold up... why does Tyr's belt look like Norgonnon's disk.... Tyr the chosen titan keeper for norgonnon?
Sooo, Talk-no-Jutsu?
KULTIRAN PALADIN SOON ?!?!
Man "x is great" just doesn't hit as hard a "x sucks".
If Tyr won't send me to roguelite valhalla as part of my therapy im not interested thanks
Wow story lame compared to ff14
Nobody asked dude