16 years ago i used to laugh at subaru`s big rear spoiler = 2016 i brought a subaru forester - GT turbo model = it does 154 miles an hour flat chat = i am not laughing any more = more smiles per mile than any other car i have ever owned = i am 63 yo = thank you subaru !
Gerry Ortiz Also Richard Burns and home for me Possum Bourne, all drove for the Prodrive 555 Rally Team, Possum only ever drove Subaru’s he never switched teams, drove !egacys in the 80s to the Impreza’s. All have passed away too soon unfortunately. Drive on.
No problem and thank you, if you need anymore information on the 22b or any other car don't hesitate to ask, anything at all!!! I've actually privateered a few different cars but living only a few miles from the man himself I was a huge McRae fan and it was his influence that led me to make the switch to Subaru (as soon as funds permitted) so anything I can help you with please feel free to ask 👍🏼
Great video.......two of my favourite WRC cars. If only the 22B was affordable...... It remains just a elusive dream. I have the a red TME.....The garage is onot half full without a 22B there. Hopefully when you do the TME rematch you can get some nice incar footage of the 22B as well. Cheers mate for doing such great reviews of these rally icons!!
It's superb mate. My editing skills are still very rusty. I really want FCP but as yet can't justify the cost. Also this reminds me, we need to get together at some point and do me filming!
Thank you for your kind reply 👍🏼 some other people might have taken my observation the wrong way, good to see you like a healthy debate, and yes I no you can't re do the video but I would agree that for no7 it might have been better to point out that great chassis and seam welded shell which some testers reported to be too stiff but they didn't seem to realise that this car was designed to be as close to Colin's Tarmac spec rally car as possible for the road so of course it's stiff, the car was based on the striped out type RA with no sound deadening and very thin carpets as well, it's supposed to be a frenetic car! it's for bombing down B roads like an Exocet missile, romping thru that short ratio gearbox at 8000 rpm not for cruising about posing, (hell you only got 15 mpg) although it does look absolutely amazing with those arches, bumpers, bonnet and wing all crafted by (mclaren f1 designer) Peter stevens, looked even better next to the TME in your other vid, top work 👍🏼
No worries, it's a very special car and not enough people know about it which I why I wanted to do this video in the first place. Thanks for your great contribution. Not nearly enough 22B content on YT. I was fortunate to own a 22B some years ago and actually followed Colin McCrae up the road in it. He was in his Focus WRC car, driving between stages of the Network Q rally. It was a great moment for me and a treasured memory. I have teamed up with Sam Butcher who owns the 22B seen on some of my other videos. You should check out his channel. I used some of his clips for No.5 (555!) there are links to his vids there. A full feature on our Evo triangle trip is in the pipeline, I might use some of your info in that. Cheers!
@@DrPittenstein yes definitely not enough 22B content even nowadays, hence why I’m here today. I applaud you and so envious for having a 22B as I wasn’t as fortunate to own a 22B, Won day. By the time of the 22B I had owned RS Legacy inspired by the man himself RIP Colin when he won Rally NZ in 1993, and then a white JDM spec V2 STi RA. Well some mates and I were going back to Parc Ferme as the top drivers finished the morning stages. Get up and personal, to a point and watch teams work on the cars. On our way we came up on Tommi in a EVO V, Carlos Sainz in the Corolla, man those were the days of rally, and of course the man himself Colin in the 22B, yes! I get to pass Colin and a 22B in my V2 as well. Man great day but to finish it off as I passed Colin and the beast on a passing lane, keep left unless passing, we slowed so they had to pass us and Colin pulled us along side, Colin was like 2-3 feet away from me, made eye contact we grinned then he gave me the thumbs up. So once Colin and the 22B passed I flicked my blinker chucked down a gear pulled up beside them waved then boosted off, something Colin would of done too. So thank you for your experience for me to relive a memory and a experience from that man himself RIP Colin McRae. 😎
@@EVOETR1 epic! As you say those were the days, I didn’t realise how special it was to share the road with guys like that at the time but I do now! If only we had it on video!
THE most important thing is that it's chassis has been seam welded like a rally car and is much stiffer. You can buy all the other parts for a normal impreza. To seam weld you have to take it back to metal.
And sorry I meant to add you are totally right about the lotus, magnesium rims have been about for some time just probably not forged magnesium, one of my other favourite cars the m3 csl also has magnesium rims! we used them in rallying for years and were very strong and light but were prone to hairline cracks and cheaper to buy new ones than repair, whereas the much more expensive forged mags would bend and could be repaired more easily but eventually we found that forged alloy could be just as strong and light as the mags which is why most top rally cars all use forged aluminium now,
+Arunweb100 Yes a true great. I was very fortunate to own one of the 400 for a few years. Stiff and uncompromising but exceptional in every regard on smoother roads. The revised steering was exquisite. The clutch was a swine but it could launch the car like nothing else I've ever owned. Literally dial up the revs, dump the clutch and hang on tight! A true thoroughbred rally weapon! The flat four also kept the CofG exceptionally low. This is true for all Imprezas but the flat four motor is what really seperates the Subarus from their rivals. A very smart idea that won the WRC three times.
Man i want two! One to Mod and Rice out. And one to keep conplete stock and pass to next generation true car enthusiast. I dont have a fave car brand. I cant, theres too many aweome engines out there and body styles.
Just waiting for them to stop salting the roads here then we'll make that happen. Looking forward to it too. Just wondering if I should give the Mak a touch more boost... ;)
Good video, glad to see Colin in it seeing it was down to his popularity with the WRC car it was even built, fact 7 slightly wrong tho, the car had forged bbs wheels, not magnesium!
I will double check on the wheels but I think you'll find they were made of magnesium alloy and forged as opposed to cast. Thanks either way, I like to get the facts straight. Cheers!
They did, along with another 2. You'll generally find that a lot of people that make these videos are either misinformed about things or just pretend like they know anything lol.
One more interesting fact, At the end of your video you hear Colin say that this was one of the the three prototypes that he had, the three cars were all numbered 000! One for Colin, one for Nicky grist and one for David lapworth
Gerry Ortiz - yes ordinarily you can take a tour at prodrive. They also recently had Colin’s ‘95 championship winning L555BAT car on display there while they were working on it.
Yeah thats right you got it even though he first appeared in the first epsiode of initial d form the first stage his car didnt until the fourth stage or better known as project D by many.
Lol, I see you tried to hit me with some knowledge, well Please check your facts then as the wheels were lightweight forged aluminium, to go with the forged aluminium lower arms, inverted Bilstein dampers and eibach springs that were hooked up to the fully seam welded shell, I no every single upgrade that was made for this car, magnesium wheels were far too expensive back in 1998, bbs didn't even develop a forged magnesium wheel until 1992, And that was for the Ferrari f1 racing car! then indy car racing in1994, so they were still way too expensive to put on a production car just 4 years later, even if it was a limited run, cheer!
Owned! I stand corrected. You clearly know your stuff Andrew, thanks for sharing your expertise. I can't really edit the whole thing again but with hindsight maybe the seam welded shell would have been a better choice for No.7. At least we have some more interesting (and accurate) info in the comments. I can't remember where I got that info from but clearly I've been led up the garden path. I know Lotus used Route OZ magnesium wheels for the 1999 Esprit Sport 350 so I didn't doubt that it was possible.
+DrPittenstein everyone loves a 22B. The best subaru ever made in my opinion, but they were incredibly rare and you're talking inbetween 40 to 60 grand if you can find one nowadays. The p1 would be good in a comparison video against the Tommi Makinen. I'm sure they were released at around the same time and were in direct competition against eachother in the UK at least. I've got a standard one and love it, but I have to admit I'd have a 22B if I could rustle up a spare 60 k
Hear Ye! We are hereby changing the 7th coolest thing about the 22B from 'Gold magnesium wheels' to 'Seam welded shell'. Firstly the wheels were actually forged aluminium, not magnesium! Secondly a seam welded shell is a proper rally construction technique for extra rigidity and strength. Way cooler! Thanks to Andrew Ritchie for the input.
+Marius Sternberger I used to Marius back in the early 2000s. I loved it. I sold it to a friend who blew it up so they are even rarer now! Wonderful, amazing, thrilling cars that are worth every penny of what they sell for these days. In fact I think they are still good value at £50k. I would love to get another but enjoying the Tommi Mak right now. I am planning to do a video with Sam who supplied the in-car footage where we get the 22B together for a head-to-head with the Evo VI TME. Watch this space!
+DrPittenstein Ah OK, I thought you have both in your Garage, the Evo VI MTE and the Subaru 22B. I don't wanna choose between these two cars on a sunny Sunday morning what i am going to drive now :). But really great idea with the head-to-head battle can't wait to see it!
+Marius Sternberger That would be nice Marius, what a cool pair of cars to own! Like you say though, which one to choose?! Yes the red and the blue will do battle soon. We're thinking North Wales. But the roads are still too icy at the moment, my Mak is hibernating in the garage. The salt on our roads in the UK will eat it alive! So hard to see it in the garage going nowhere. It just begs to be driven!
+DrPittenstein Yeah in Germany the Weahter is also to cold for the Season. The adjustable differential looks realy cool, how big is the diffrence between the Highest and the lowest setting and is it practically or more for fun and drifting like the Rally Stars :)
+Marius Sternberger I have to be honest Marius, I couldn't really tell the difference playing with the centre diff on my 22B. But I was not so experienced a driver back then. Maybe I would now? I think the max torque split is 35/65 anyway so not 100% rear, now that would be cool! Regardless it is a nice feature, all 4WD cars should have it.
16 years ago i used to laugh at subaru`s big rear spoiler = 2016 i brought a subaru forester - GT turbo model = it does 154 miles an hour flat chat = i am not laughing any more = more smiles per mile than any other car i have ever owned = i am 63 yo = thank you subaru !
This is the Eleanor of Japanese rally cars! RIP Colin McRae.
Gerry Ortiz Also Richard Burns and home for me Possum Bourne, all drove for the Prodrive 555 Rally Team, Possum only ever drove Subaru’s he never switched teams, drove !egacys in the 80s to the Impreza’s. All have passed away too soon unfortunately. Drive on.
I felt like crying when I saw the last part. Rest in peace good Sir, rest in peace.
was such a great man.
No problem and thank you, if you need anymore information on the 22b or any other car don't hesitate to ask, anything at all!!! I've actually privateered a few different cars but living only a few miles from the man himself I was a huge McRae fan and it was his influence that led me to make the switch to Subaru (as soon as funds permitted) so anything I can help you with please feel free to ask 👍🏼
Great video.......two of my favourite WRC cars. If only the 22B was affordable...... It remains just a elusive dream. I have the a red TME.....The garage is onot half full without a 22B there. Hopefully when you do the TME rematch you can get some nice incar footage of the 22B as well. Cheers mate for doing such great reviews of these rally icons!!
Collin bought the first one... it's actually for sale right now!
Great video mate. Who did the edit? Very professional!
Thanks David, I did the edit using FCP. That part I can do! Just need to up my game on shooting and presenting! Tips welcome!
It's superb mate. My editing skills are still very rusty. I really want FCP but as yet can't justify the cost. Also this reminds me, we need to get together at some point and do me filming!
Thank you for your kind reply 👍🏼 some other people might have taken my observation the wrong way, good to see you like a healthy debate, and yes I no you can't re do the video but I would agree that for no7 it might have been better to point out that great chassis and seam welded shell which some testers reported to be too stiff but they didn't seem to realise that this car was designed to be as close to Colin's Tarmac spec rally car as possible for the road so of course it's stiff, the car was based on the striped out type RA with no sound deadening and very thin carpets as well, it's supposed to be a frenetic car! it's for bombing down B roads like an Exocet missile, romping thru that short ratio gearbox at 8000 rpm not for cruising about posing, (hell you only got 15 mpg) although it does look absolutely amazing with those arches, bumpers, bonnet and wing all crafted by (mclaren f1 designer) Peter stevens, looked even better next to the TME in your other vid, top work 👍🏼
No worries, it's a very special car and not enough people know about it which I why I wanted to do this video in the first place. Thanks for your great contribution. Not nearly enough 22B content on YT. I was fortunate to own a 22B some years ago and actually followed Colin McCrae up the road in it. He was in his Focus WRC car, driving between stages of the Network Q rally. It was a great moment for me and a treasured memory. I have teamed up with Sam Butcher who owns the 22B seen on some of my other videos. You should check out his channel. I used some of his clips for No.5 (555!) there are links to his vids there. A full feature on our Evo triangle trip is in the pipeline, I might use some of your info in that. Cheers!
@@DrPittenstein yes definitely not enough 22B content even nowadays, hence why I’m here today. I applaud you and so envious for having a 22B as I wasn’t as fortunate to own a 22B, Won day. By the time of the 22B I had owned RS Legacy inspired by the man himself RIP Colin when he won Rally NZ in 1993, and then a white JDM spec V2 STi RA. Well some mates and I were going back to Parc Ferme as the top drivers finished the morning stages. Get up and personal, to a point and watch teams work on the cars. On our way we came up on Tommi in a EVO V, Carlos Sainz in the Corolla, man those were the days of rally, and of course the man himself Colin in the 22B, yes! I get to pass Colin and a 22B in my V2 as well. Man great day but to finish it off as I passed Colin and the beast on a passing lane, keep left unless passing, we slowed so they had to pass us and Colin pulled us along side, Colin was like 2-3 feet away from me, made eye contact we grinned then he gave me the thumbs up. So once Colin and the 22B passed I flicked my blinker chucked down a gear pulled up beside them waved then boosted off, something Colin would of done too.
So thank you for your experience for me to relive a memory and a experience from that man himself RIP Colin McRae. 😎
@@EVOETR1 epic! As you say those were the days, I didn’t realise how special it was to share the road with guys like that at the time but I do now! If only we had it on video!
THE most important thing is that it's chassis has been seam welded like a rally car and is much stiffer. You can buy all the other parts for a normal impreza. To seam weld you have to take it back to metal.
And sorry I meant to add you are totally right about the lotus, magnesium rims have been about for some time just probably not forged magnesium, one of my other favourite cars the m3 csl also has magnesium rims! we used them in rallying for years and were very strong and light but were prone to hairline cracks and cheaper to buy new ones than repair, whereas the much more expensive forged mags would bend and could be repaired more easily but eventually we found that forged alloy could be just as strong and light as the mags which is why most top rally cars all use forged aluminium now,
That '98 rally car was just perfection.
+Arunweb100 Yes a true great. I was very fortunate to own one of the 400 for a few years. Stiff and uncompromising but exceptional in every regard on smoother roads. The revised steering was exquisite. The clutch was a swine but it could launch the car like nothing else I've ever owned. Literally dial up the revs, dump the clutch and hang on tight! A true thoroughbred rally weapon! The flat four also kept the CofG exceptionally low. This is true for all Imprezas but the flat four motor is what really seperates the Subarus from their rivals. A very smart idea that won the WRC three times.
Man i want two! One to Mod and Rice out. And one to keep conplete stock and pass to next generation true car enthusiast. I dont have a fave car brand. I cant, theres too many aweome engines out there and body styles.
Great idea, I'd love another Evo just to mod to death. Grenade spec motor? Where do I sign!
You can't modify a 22B
@@automobilemusicengines yeah you can lol and I would, but still able to return back to original, well most of it.
Hey YT, this video is 22 hours old at the time of writing. Noice!
Looking forward to the 22B and Maki pair up. That'd be awesome. I'm a huge Colin McRae so naturally I love the 22B.
Just waiting for them to stop salting the roads here then we'll make that happen. Looking forward to it too. Just wondering if I should give the Mak a touch more boost... ;)
Best car in the world love this car
Bruh this is buntas car that should be included on the list right well time to find out.
Bunta is a fictional character...
Good video, glad to see Colin in it seeing it was down to his popularity with the WRC car it was even built, fact 7 slightly wrong tho, the car had forged bbs wheels, not magnesium!
I will double check on the wheels but I think you'll find they were made of magnesium alloy and forged as opposed to cast. Thanks either way, I like to get the facts straight. Cheers!
One cool thing is also that the rear wing could be set up and down.
That can be number 11. Must be over 100 cool things about the 22B, at least!
A few of these things arent exclusive to the 2BB, great video though!
Top Best Subaru Ever BUILT 😎.👍 💙
My dream car 😍😍😍👍
Colin bought it? I could've sworn they gave it to him.
They did, along with another 2. You'll generally find that a lot of people that make these videos are either misinformed about things or just pretend like they know anything lol.
why can't cars be like this ?
To take a ride with McRae in a 22B...wow.
One more interesting fact, At the end of your video you hear Colin say that this was one of the the three prototypes that he had, the three cars were all numbered 000! One for Colin, one for Nicky grist and one for David lapworth
one is in japan on the subaru museum.
the one in STI Japan is the 000..
I would like to take a trip from USA and see these cars and also check out Prodrive do you know if it’s open to visitors?
Gerry Ortiz - yes ordinarily you can take a tour at prodrive. They also recently had Colin’s ‘95 championship winning L555BAT car on display there while they were working on it.
Do you have links to the footage?
13 October 2020 22 B sold in Norwich city/UK price £295.500 pound mileage on the clock 270 miles
Song name?
Bunta Fujiwara car!! FACT jajajajaja
Bunta had Type R i think :)
AnzeTusar Bunta buy a 22B when Takumi takes the AE86 and do it his car!!
LEXzaemon BRUNOsawa bunta had a type r...
Yeah thats right you got it even though he first appeared in the first epsiode of initial d form the first stage his car didnt until the fourth stage or better known as project D by many.
bunta drives a freaking gc8 ._.
they never built a number 13
Andy Kane or 113 213 313 or 413 that’s why they are numbered up to 449 due to them avoiding 13
How much to buy 1 now?
Close to £100,000
'Variable Ratios in 5 speed' @ 5:21
What is this.
Lol, I see you tried to hit me with some knowledge, well Please check your facts then as the wheels were lightweight forged aluminium, to go with the forged aluminium lower arms, inverted Bilstein dampers and eibach springs that were hooked up to the fully seam welded shell, I no every single upgrade that was made for this car, magnesium wheels were far too expensive back in 1998, bbs didn't even develop a forged magnesium wheel until 1992, And that was for the Ferrari f1 racing car! then indy car racing in1994, so they were still way too expensive to put on a production car just 4 years later, even if it was a limited run, cheer!
Owned! I stand corrected. You clearly know your stuff Andrew, thanks for sharing your expertise. I can't really edit the whole thing again but with hindsight maybe the seam welded shell would have been a better choice for No.7. At least we have some more interesting (and accurate) info in the comments. I can't remember where I got that info from but clearly I've been led up the garden path. I know Lotus used Route OZ magnesium wheels for the 1999 Esprit Sport 350 so I didn't doubt that it was possible.
actually I have some questions about 22B. its more about actual specs and data info. if you are still available let me know, than I'll ask questions
You should do the P1
I will give that some thought but I prefer the 22B. It would be great to do a back to back comparison.
+DrPittenstein everyone loves a 22B. The best subaru ever made in my opinion, but they were incredibly rare and you're talking inbetween 40 to 60 grand if you can find one nowadays. The p1 would be good in a comparison video against the Tommi Makinen. I'm sure they were released at around the same time and were in direct competition against eachother in the UK at least. I've got a standard one and love it, but I have to admit I'd have a 22B if I could rustle up a spare 60 k
Hear Ye! We are hereby changing the 7th coolest thing about the 22B from 'Gold magnesium wheels' to 'Seam welded shell'. Firstly the wheels were actually forged aluminium, not magnesium! Secondly a seam welded shell is a proper rally construction technique for extra rigidity and strength. Way cooler! Thanks to Andrew Ritchie for the input.
Do you know the song name?
It's a free track from the TH-cam audio library called 'Righteous' by Silent Partner. It's good to cut to. Cheers!
thanks mate!
I owned one 👍
Do you have one of them?
+Marius Sternberger I used to Marius back in the early 2000s. I loved it. I sold it to a friend who blew it up so they are even rarer now! Wonderful, amazing, thrilling cars that are worth every penny of what they sell for these days. In fact I think they are still good value at £50k. I would love to get another but enjoying the Tommi Mak right now. I am planning to do a video with Sam who supplied the in-car footage where we get the 22B together for a head-to-head with the Evo VI TME. Watch this space!
+DrPittenstein Ah OK, I thought you have both in your Garage, the Evo VI MTE and the Subaru 22B. I don't wanna choose between these two cars on a sunny Sunday morning what i am going to drive now :). But really great idea with the head-to-head battle can't wait to see it!
+Marius Sternberger That would be nice Marius, what a cool pair of cars to own! Like you say though, which one to choose?! Yes the red and the blue will do battle soon. We're thinking North Wales. But the roads are still too icy at the moment, my Mak is hibernating in the garage. The salt on our roads in the UK will eat it alive! So hard to see it in the garage going nowhere. It just begs to be driven!
+DrPittenstein Yeah in Germany the Weahter is also to cold for the Season.
The adjustable differential looks realy cool, how big is the diffrence between the Highest and the lowest setting and is it practically or more for fun and drifting like the Rally Stars :)
+Marius Sternberger I have to be honest Marius, I couldn't really tell the difference playing with the centre diff on my 22B. But I was not so experienced a driver back then. Maybe I would now? I think the max torque split is 35/65 anyway so not 100% rear, now that would be cool! Regardless it is a nice feature, all 4WD cars should have it.
Engines aren't the same actual rally car is 2.0 do to WRC regulations
Bryant J Pauley Yep this engine isnt for rallying. WRC is maxed out at 2.0 litre.
how much bigger?
no informations here......
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