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Let us not forget that the first time Kane Pixels and Alex Kister ever spoke was to unite for the purpose of roasting a man who's done nothing but praise their work
@pionn3r528 lol wendi loves both of their work and praises them highly, they then came together to make a series and told him specifically to watch it on a live stream, during which he cried out of fear and they both laughed (out of pride not at isaiah) and proceed to tease him about it for like 5 - 10 mins
I know the ending is definitely like not as literal as “The rolling giant is absolutely hauling ass down some country road” and is probably more of a metaphor for carrying memories or something, but the mental image of this absolutely massive statue of an 1800s botanist freewheeling it down the road while cars pass by without stopping has me HOLLERING
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 Julien then stopped at a red light next to an SUV with a mom and six kids inside before he rolled to look them in the eyes, said "it's Oldin time" and olded all over the intersection
I saw people saying this on the original videos so I though I would mention it here, it’s SO cool seeing the giant be smart enough to actually try to TRICK Wyatt and mislead him to get to him. First time we see the giant it’s still, but we later find out it can be wheeled around, presumably by somebody. Then we suddenly find out that the giant can move on its own and is not controlled by anyone, but he only moves when Wyatt isn’t looking at him. Suddenly the giant breaks that rule by not stopping at all and continues to barrel at Wyatt even after he turns around, which almost works, but Wyatt reaches an escalator and the giant is “forced” to roll away. Then, at the very end, we see that the giant can even use escalations without issues at all which means it totally tried to mislead Wyatt on MULTIPLE occasions to get the jump on him later, and in a way it totally worked.
Also if you look carefully at the very end when Wyatt is trying to escape, you can catcha glimpse of the RG's dolly/cart at the top of the escalator, but the RG isn't on it anymore- meaning that it never actually was confined to the dolly at all, it was just toying with Wyatt
It's about the onset of mental illness. At first it is easy to manage the symptoms the person knows something isnt right , but the World still seems almost normal. Then the symptoms become harder to manage and their World starts to fall apart around them into fear and panic.. He knows something isn't right when he finds an abandoned Mall underground. But it still seems like there might be a rational explanation if he looks for it (Maybe it's a recreation of a Mall for a long term "Bomb Shelter" the Government made to make living underground easier to cope with) Then the "Rolling Giant" at first it's stationary and a little creepy ,so he just stays away from it. Then it starts moving up on him when he isn't paying attention. So by simply focusing on it, he can stop it. Then it starts happening even when he pays attention to it. (his symptoms are no longer controllable) Then he finds a new way to cope with the panic , which works for a time....until it doesn't Now he's fleeing desperately and he has no way to escape the Giant. (He's having a psychotic episode) He desperately tried to climb away from it and falls to his death. And the whole time the World around him just keeps getting uglier.
@@localidiotnumber792 i figured that was a reference to the last known image of the giant, where there's nothing but the cart left, given it's the last shot before he falls
In an alternate universe, there actually really was an underground mall buried and forgotten by time, but Kane Pixels made an original horror series about a massive underground cave of government cheese
Imagine being a French botanist so proud of your work, then looking down from heaven to learn that people are scared of an uncanny cardboard sculpture that looks like you
32:36 I love to imagine the rolling giant going 60 mph down the road as an unknown hidden speaker just blasts freebird at an almost ear shattering volume, now that is true fear
Ken Pixels has a the chance to do the funniest thing if he's reading this comment. (Not sure how the copyright thing with actually using Lynyrd Skynyrd's music would work, though.)
“We then cut to Wyatt’s body. We know that it’s Wyatt’s body because that’s Kane’s body, and Kane plays Wyatt, and after the suffering that Kane put me through, it’s nice to see him dead on the floor.”😂
See that? Indicative of Wendigoons inherent racist and neo-nazi tendencies. He is a dangerous individual. I met him at a charity run once. He tripped me and kicked me in the guts a couple of times when I tried to overtake him 😔
I showed my dad who used to live in Texas this series, and he genuinely thought it was all shot inside the actual mall. It was so accurate to what he remembered from visiting the place in person that I had to show him pictures of the real mall's demolition before he fully believed that it was all made digitally
@yungsinnxr5397 What exactly are you doubting here? That this individual showed a youtube video to their father? That's a crazy thought, imagine if you could actually show things to other people? Or do you doubt that the father thought the digital mall was accurate to the real mall? What is your major malfunction?
Kane really said "Humanity's monster is the impermanence of our existence within our peers' minds" and inflicting that kind of existential dread was very brave of him
Austin McConnell had that whole video about how Pixar accidentally deleted Toy Story 2 mid-production, and he keeps using the term "master computer(?)" ; the comments were like, "does he know what a *'server'* is?"
26:10 is killing me with his delivery of "Wyatt now sees that the giant is now using the escalator" along with the pan to the giant waiting on the escalator
Someone innocently driving: "...why do I hear AC/DC?" Giant: *appears up ahead, hair blowing in the wind* "I'M ON THE HIGHHHHWAY TO-" and he leaves a trail of fire in his wake.
One interesting thing about the giant is that we still don't fully know its intentions. It broke glass to follow Wyatt and it was strong enough to crack the concrete, but the only thing we have actually seen it do thus far is pursue Wyatt. Sure, it could be following him to kill him. But it could just be desperate to not lose the only living being that has entered that mall in a very long time.
I thought about this through the series. The giant doesn't start off evil. He seems genuinely curious about Wyatt. Its only when Wyatt acts scared and runs away that he starts to chase him. Almost like hes confused as to why Wyatt is scared of him and doesnt want him to leave.
The giant never seemed evil to me. It actually could have caught him at any time but chose not to. I got the impression that it was observing Wyatt at first to see his intentions.
Never thought about it like that. From the viewpoint of the giant, of course it's desperate to follow him, especially after it sees that Wyatt is trying to leave
Ngl the giant riding the escalator made me crack up, it's like he's in a Mr. Bean chase sequence where all he's got to do is calmly pursue the panicking guy
this is what I don't understand about Wendigoon, he's seen so much scary stuff yet has the biggest freakout ever over that goofy cardboard statue. I left a comment complimenting kane on his channel for finally making horror series that didn't have jumpscares XD
I think it's really telling about Kane as a filmmaker that he goes "woah, freaky picture" and instead of leaving it at that and simply making a video about being chased by a monster, spends tons of time researching the origin of it, what it's about, the people involved in it, and makes that the core of the narrative.. . . . . GIANT
the best part about wendigoons reaction to the jumpscare is that you can actually see the giant just standing there not even like 30 seconds before wyatt noticies it's there. So if you have good perception, it's not even really a jumpscare moment. It's sort of dramatic irony.
The only jumpscare was when he finally got back to the stairs and we all realized they were gone. Or, rather, full of immovable rubble. Idk how many times I rewatched that part. It was terrifying
@connor7272 I feel like learning how to create things through experience alone is the best way to do things like this. If I knew my way around unreal engine I'm sure I could make a cool game but I don't so I'd struggle
@@connor7272 getting consistent detail using photogrammetry for setpieces still requires skill. a lot of scans are just unusable in most lighting conditions
I used to live in Dallas pre-covid. In the last days that this mall was open, it used to have some of the best prices to go see movies at the AMC. You could definitely tell that this mall was dying, as it was mostly empty and very uncanny in places. And yes, the giant was an actual feature in this mall at the time. It left such a impression on me that as soon as I saw the thumbnail for this series, I knew exactly where it was from. Oddly nostalgic for me.
I grew up in the area, and Valley View Center was such a great mall late '80s to early '90s. VVC, Prestonwood, and The Galeria were such a great trinity of localized mass consumerism.
There's a mall close to where I live that has been going downhill for years now, and it's so weird seeing what tit used to be 7 years ago and lively, now the palce is dying slowly I should take pics before it closes for good 😅
CGI is so good on this series that the only way I can notice it is CGI it's because of the geometry, things being "too perfect" absolute respect to Kane. Absolute cinema
its so cool and sound is too but the methaphor made story worse imo. Who cares about botanist who was never truly forggoten there. Thought it would be about countless people whos names we will never known. It irritates me that those types of series are always about people who did something big.
I can’t tell the mall is CGI at all. I can only ever notice it in the staircase, there’s some weird lighting around the edges of the stairs. And that’s literally it
@@staruchx Why are you so upset by it? Instead of being another almost forgettable back rooms where its all about one upping itself, now it can create an entire world of stories, horror, suspense, romance, intrigue so many stories could be told built off this premise. What happens when the totem to remember the love of a young couple who are dead and gone. What does the disease of time turn it into? The tale of a terror? Assumed to be a wicken curse? What happens when we forget about the tale of a horrific crime. What does that entity look like? This universe where our new memories, or even lack of, can effect the physical representations of the beings it holds. In a world where those representations can move, chase and drag themselves back out of obscurity. Empowering themselves with a combination of physical form, induced emotions and mythical stories related to them. Whilst it grounds it into emotionally impact us more for this story, the tale of a man forgotten and is idol meant to immortalise him left within a demolished building for convenience, the concept behind that going down a historical rabbit hole can revive them, get you killed and lost to history yourself or worse, bring them back as something entirely different is a horrific one. Put it this way, imagine if all those delusional conspiracy theorists in their insanity, could believe so hard in their perceived memory of something, that they make it a reality. They could take something as innocent as a childs preserved crown of daisies and turn it into the sign of pestilence. When in regards to real memories of real people its sad, but in that universe still dangerous. When you bring in peoples delusions or things dead and gone for so long they are nearly unrecognizable as what they once where, i think thats where the true potential and horror comes from.
This has got to be the most unexpectedly moving horror series I've seen. The beauty of a single person stumbling upon an out-of-context image, getting so fascinated by it they won't rest until they know the entire history behind it, and then go on to turn that into a story that in turn touches the minds of countless people, thereby plucking the original tribute out from the sea of obscurity and reintroducing it until it is once more beloved by many, is utterly incredible. Also the audio jumpscare at 48:45 had me cursing you for a good full minute or two. I thought I could trust you, Wendigoon ;;
I love how Wendigoon instinctively removed his headset for that first jump scare even though there was no scream or scare chord. That's how you know he's a veteran horror enjoyer.
Bit of a wild theory here but maybe the reason why Julian is his normal self at the beginning is because that was the final memory of him, a respected botanist. However, after the events of The Rolling Giant the last memory of him is now Wyatt’s. Wyatt had no idea who Julian was or the good that he did, his memory was only of Julian being a violent and vengeful monster, so that is what he becomes.
Can confirm, am friends with a business major. One time she went to Ireland with a random guy she'd never met without telling anyone just because she felt like it would be interesting.
I believe the ending where the rolling giant is out on the road represents how he is free because now us as viewers remember him. Kane said we are living in the aftermath of the rolling giant. We are apart of this story because by watching the story, we are remembering him. This person and place that most people have never heard of, is suddenly known by thousands of people.
Fun fact - the person (Kevin Obregon) who created "The Rolling Giant" statue ALSO voice acted the Sergeant-At-Arms in the cult classic PC game "Harvester". What a wild timeline we live in
Fun evening ideas: - Gather the boys (or girls); - Make a bigger cardboard giant; - Load into a truck; - Drive up to Wendigoon's home; - Leave the giant directly in front of his house door facing said door. - Alternatively, if the giant is big enough, make him face the bedroom window, in a way that it looks like it's staring into the bedroom, so it can keep Wendigoon safe at night and greet him first thing in the morning. (Also, please note that Wendigoon has guns and knows how to use them, so if you want to try the above, please have someone on the inside to help you or remember to use your giant steel balls as cover)
I don't understand how talented Kane pixels must be to create the oldest view out of basically entirely CGI. So cool to see someone succeed from such great talent with that
I think he said it was done with a modified videogame engine. Whatever it is, he did such an incredible job that I've seen some ppl who SERIOUSLY thought that the long staircase and that entire first video called "the oldest view" was a real staircase and the footage was legit real. 😂. Now I do think that is pretty damn funny, but I'm not going to say that anyone who thought it was real is a stupid person or anything. Because it honestly looks real and there are real life examples of complex massive underground areas that ppl have stumbled upon. They were maybe not as photogenic as the crazy staircase from the oldest view, but they were actually more impressive overall. If you are wondering what I'm talking about, there was a guy that bought an old house in some country and knocked down a basement wall to discover a passage into a complete underground city built LONG ago. Idr details at the moment but it's super easy to find online. I want to say it was in "Turkey" but I'm probly mistaken.
Here a random architecture student, 25:00 man made structures can be overun by nature in less than five years. There are many books that investigate this phenomena and how fragile are modern cities without constant repairs.
Hell even with repairs. I swear to God back when I was still in high school, one of the classrooms had a tree sapling growing up through the floor in one corner.
Does it not depend on the region? For example vines in the south make off the house rather quickly, the Sahara shall swallow as well as the Amazon. However to say 5 years, I'm interested how you came up with that number.
The Sandburg Mall in Galesburg, Illinois is a good example of that. It closed down in 2018, but seeing the inside, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that it's been abandoned for decades. There's a great video that was posted recently of some people exploring the inside. It's honestly pretty sad to see since it had sentimental value for lots of people in the area (including myself).
Broccoli, bok choy, Brussel sprouts, butter beans, big boy tomatoes, black beans, beets, blackeyed peas. I spent far too long trying to figure this out. Thanks for the show. May God bless you and yours.
@@EinBisschenTrolling in the scientific sense, yes, but in the culinary sense, which it likely was referring to given it was advertising, those are vegetables.
@@jonaut5705 Your limiting beliefs will keep you small. Broccoli, Bok Choy, Brussels Sprouts, Beets, *Black Radishes, Bean Sprouts, Bamboo Shoots, and Butter Lettuce.*
@@EinBisschenTrolling Your beliefs are even more limiting than mine. You are constrained to real words. My list is: Bcelery, brhubarb, bcarrot, bpotato, bradish, bspinach, bcabbage, bkale
the part where wyatt goes up close to the rolling giant and says "im leaving now" the giant just then goes and attacks him, cementing the idea of forgotten memories and that the giant does not want anyone or wyatt to forget him
"we know that it's Wyatt's body because that's Kane's body, and Kane plays Wyatt. And after the suffering that Kane put me through, it's nice to see him dead. On the floor."
My favorite thing about the rolling giant has to be when it comes up the escalator. Like, imagine running from this thing for so long and you finally find a way out and you just turn around and see the MONSTER CHASING YOU GOING UP AN ESCALATOR WHILE STARING AT YOU. Its beautiful.
After hearing Wendigoon so beautifully retell the story of Julien Reverchon and his great contribution to his field to this day, despite how the man himself is nearly forgotten, I couldn't help but remember this poem: "We walk the fragile paths that join the world as one, that rest upon the valiant efforts of the past. On the shoulders of giants we cautiously tread. In time, the path ahead shall end, as it already has to those who walked before us. Then, none will walk. None will remain. We will have been the last." -Naktigonis, written under his song "On the shoulders of giants" Paired also with the mention of how much of our early history and people arent unaccounted for, really gives a lot of meaning to the expression "on the shoulders of giants". We may never know these giants. The ones which braved the darkness of the forest and the caves below, the lightning and storm. This paints a much more benevolent image of them.
We will never know who discovered fire, who created the first wheel, who spoke the first words of a language, who figured out flint napping and then who crafted the first knife, axe or spear with it, who created the first pottery, who discovered Copper, Bronze, Iron and Steel, who created the first bow and arrows, who planted and harvested the first crops. On and on and on, the foundations of survival and civilization progress, possibly discovered and rediscovered multiple times and thousands of miles apart from one another but which connects and defines our history in ways we can only imagine. We are a forgetful few standing upon the shoulders of giants who we will never know, a mountain of buried bodies that reached higher and higher into the sky until we could have a view worth appreciating. The oldest view we will ever know.
@@ComotoseOnAnime I'm sure the jews will come up with some fanciful story about how a magical negro did all of that, eventually. After they ask ChatGPT to do it for them.
I'll just put this quote here: "We are like dwarfs sitting on the shoulders of giants; we see more and further than they do, not because we have better vision, and not because we are taller than them, but because they raised us and increased our stature with their own greatness.”
@@ComotoseOnAnime Your reply has given me legitimate chills. Many people here are eithermaking fun of Wendigoon or calling The Giant non-scary. But you,oh man,never let go of the way you think about things in media as it has led you to write beatiful things such as this.
i love that wendigoon is unabashedly scared of horror because as a fellow horror lover who is scared of everything i feel like too many people are desensitized to horror and their lack of reactions makes me feel like a wimp
I’m not really afraid of much but this for some reason just terrified me idek why just the whole feel around it and the scream right before he dies and just imagining yourself going down those stairs and then it collapsing on you and just the feeling of being stuck terrifies me
I don't think people are truly desensitized, they just choose to not be scared. They choose not to consciously engage with a piece, then expect it to just get to them. Because they don't actually want to be scared. I think you need to choose to be vulnerable to be scared
Remimds me of the quote: "You die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time"
Urm... not to be that guy, but you got the quote wrong. The real guote is: "You die twice. Once when the neurons in your brain stop firing and a second time, after you get revived, when your guts get blown up into a million little pieces of black licorice that you have to eat for five hundred bucks."
It's nice to think that, in a sense, some people get to be given life again when someone takes the legacy of someone like Julien Reverchon and makes something out of it that spreads to far more people than the relatively small influence they held previously. Granted, in Texas Julien wasn't truly gone, but Kane has in a sense insured his memory will survive a lot longer and to a wider audience of people than anyone might have guessed.
What if the giant wants to be worshipped like some pagan forest spirit. It was appreciated and shown off at exhibits and malls, then it was left to rot. Wyatt shows up and it finally has what it wants. Someone to worship it again. When Wyatt dies it revives him because it can't bear to lose what it's missed for so long. Then when Wyatt escapes it follows to find its disciple. It also kind of makes sense when he asks the giant. "What do you want?" it shows dead people and animals, things that were once sacrificed to it in the past.
As an anthropology student I am constantly terrified of the knowledge humans have lost in the approximately 296,000 years before the earliest example of writing. If you take a generation to be 25 years, that’s just under 12,000 generations of knowledge that we have no record of. So much of what defines us as human, our history, our knowledge, our understanding and quite possibly our fears have been permanently lost at worst, or half-recorded in a 200,000 year long game of telephone. This series being about that quiet terror is SO cool!
Something I know for sure that the governments in the world are hiding the history of is the Tartarian Empire (which ruled the entire world In the 17th-19th century ) and the Mudflood which erased/hide almost every record of the empire. As for what happened before 12k years ago, its most likely Aliens genetically modifying every creature on earth making giants, demigods, dragons, human-animal hybrids, etc.
It's truly heartbreaking, and the reason I'm such a big advocate for giving respect to oral history, cultural storytelling, and cultural beliefs, it says so much more than just 'silly myths'. I can also say though, that even the stuff that's been muddled by 'telephone', may very well still be in our genetic memory. I hope one day we find out how to access it.
if you ask me the scariest part of The Oldest View is the part where Wyatt tries to get out and sees the exit is closed off, you've been buried alive with no hope and the mall feels like its own entity.
One of my favorite moments in this series was a poster that was in the back hallways of the mall that Wyatt sees and it says "Do you accept this impermanence?" I can't stop thinking about it
"No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone's life is only the core of their actual existence." -- Terry Pratchett GNU Julian Reverchon
what I find fascinating is that the Giant doesn't scare me anymore, but the concept of those 244,000 missing years of human history chills me to the bone
@@jonathansweet2230there’s a note at the start of the entire series that approximately 244,000 years of human history weren’t recorded, which is interesting, but also scary to think about. What have we forgotten? What happened back then to cause humans to have the fears they do now? It’s just a thought experiment
@@ikkimurrell1074 not to mention other species of humans… or Gigantopithecus and Megalania, both of which existed with human beings, and that’s just what we know.
@@WholeWheatRecords I'm REALLY interested in scary things, stories that are potentially twisted and unnatural but I get scared way too easily and I can't manage it well so I need somebody to act as a filter for me so I CAN enjoy these things
I love how this view of the story and meaning turns the final moment of the last episode from "oh no! the giant escaped!" to "yay! the giant is alive!"
Honestly the most terrifying part of this creature is how it’s established that it cannot go up stairs but that doesn’t stop it from getting out main character. Legit one of the only times I’ve been terrified of a creature in one of these types of videos. When it establishes a rule that makes our main character safe only for it to break that rule and attack them
Plus the first time he visited the mall, it let him come down and explore for a bit and then it leave safely back up the stair case. That made him think that the stair case would always be there and he could leave whenever he wanted. Establishing a "rule" so to speak. But then the creature broke that rule by blocking the staircase the second time he visited the mall so he couldn't leave. I think the creature likes to lull people into a false sense of security to fuck with them.
It very slowly breaks all the rules it makes for itself, it’s like he’s toying with Wyatt and as he gets closer to escape the giant ups the ante, like how he climbs the escalator when he realises Wyatt is seconds from escaping, like he realises he’s toyed with him too much and allowed his victim a chance to escape that he otherwise wouldn’t have been granted.
The giant is less scary if you imagine it as MoistCritikal, and whenever it charges, it makes that "WOOOOOOO! YEAH BABY!" sound that Charlie is known for lol
My jaw dropped a little at the imagery of the giant sprawled out on the floor of the abandoned mall, completely forgotten. It reminded me immediately of the scene at the AMC theatre where we catch a glimpse of human bodies and animals all over the floor. It's as if the rolling giant is a manifestation of the grief that forgotten souls experience in the afterlife. Incredibly poetic. Some say a man dies twice; the first is when his body fails him, the second is when he is thought of for the last time.
It's amazing Kane made something more than just another Analog Horror series with this, he forced the world to remember the legacy of an important man.
As someone from Dallas, especially one who has visited the valley view mall far before it was demolished and was heartbroken when it was announced to be closed and then watch it disappear over time, Kane’s incredible narrative around this rolling figure and spaces/people lost to time really hits close to home and I thank him for it.
I had family who ran a pizza place in the food courts of the Valley View Mall. I had the privilege of going through the back corridors and employee only areas. It was sad to see it torn down but I’m glad Kane immortalized it in his video
It’s a fun little bonus that the representation of Kane’s curiosity is named Wyatt (why-att). It really hammers home the idea that we can go down a rabbit hole of information and thought and either let that knowledge die once we’ve chased it to a natural conclusion or we can find a way to share the information and birth more people’s curiosities.
Oldest View holds such a weird place for me. Like the mall is supposed to feel familiar and like you’ve been there…. But I’ve actually BEEN in the mall he used to model it. Just makes it doubly haunting, love it.
The first time I saw The Oldest View, when Wyatt first enters the mall, I gasped out loud. Like hands-over-my-mouth gasped. I grew up going to Valley View Mall, and actually a lot of my fondest mall memories were long after it had started the dying process. My best friend and I spent forever just wandering around looking at all the artist studios, going to movies cause the AMC theater was open until the very end and they had cheaper tickets. My mom has lived in the Dallas area the majority of her life and we'd go together too and we'd walk around where we still could (towards the end they started walling off sections to get demolition started) and try and remember which stores used to be where, and her memories of it long before I could tangibly remember anything. And each time I went, whether it was the first thing I did or just before I left, I always had to go say hi to the Giant. I had no idea who Julien Reverchon was, in fact I thought the Giant kinda looked like Rasputin. But I have such fond memories of trying to go find him- I don't know what it was about the Giant but I was just fascinated. But as a comment/compliment on the sheer level of detail Kane went to for this series and his skills, I legitimately thought he had filmed inside the mall. I spent *forever* trying to figure out when he could have possibly done that before I found out he made the whole thing in Blender after studying the building plans. I'm still in awe of it. Before I saw The Oldest View, back when the mall was completely closed and nearly demolished, I'd already had a wave of hyper-fixation and read up on Julien Reverchon and looked at Kevin Obregon's website, but watching The Oldest View has launched me into a wave of nostalgia like nothing else. And now watching this has restarted that nostalgia all over again and I'm going to have to make an art doll of the Rolling Giant, so thanks for that.
I spent most of my mall time at Stonebriar, but I went to Valley View several times as well. Watching him explore the mall in the video made me feel really nostalgic - it all made sense when the Valley View sign came up!
I dont think i spent as much time in Valley View as you, but I went to it a bunch when it was on its last legs. I remember there being so many interesting art studios that i thought to myself "i need to check this out before the mall closes" but i never got around to it. I dont have many regrets, but thats one of them.
I’m constantly talking my friends’ ears off about how incredible this series is as well as the sheer talent that is Kane Pixels. I was born and raised in Dallas and lived right down the road from Valley view and spent much of my childhood in that mall. On top of it being right down the road from us, my mom worked at the JCP in front of the play area you see in the video right before the giant starts moving. I would chill in her office all day and on her breaks shed watch over me while i played/fought with other kids trying to climb that foam tree and the red foam canoe. I also remember that wall with the dark tile with stars and shapes where the giant starts rolling used to be the disney store, i remember the octopus mural on the opposite side of the mall, and i remember those big ass kitchen utensils on the sides of the elevator near the food court. We ended up moving to another town in the DFW area and I must’ve been 7 or 8 since the last time i was at the mall. I’m 23 now and the mall has been demolished for some time, so when i first saw the clip of the giant on tiktok i immediately recognized the wall right next to him and it confused the hell out of me man. Was this some kinda found footage thing or like a project someone worked on before the place got demolished? Then i looked it up and MAN the absolute SHOCK at finding out this was a 3D rendering/recreation of one of my core memories. Im talking IDENTICAL. Kane Pixels if you’re reading this man you’re an absolute fucking legend man thank you for entertaining the hell out of me as well as allowing me to travel back in time to my childhood, i hope one day i get a chance to contact you and express my gratitude bro tldr LET THIS MAN COOK
A horror story surrounding a location I have been to when I was a kid, saw the giant with my own eyes when I was younger is truly another level of horror I never imaged possible. It’s like a horror story based around your neighborhood, with actual events twisted in.
I like to think of the Rolling Giant as actually a peaceful creature but just, it has spent so many years, decades, being forgotten and abandoned, in isolation. And now someone has finally come to the mall again and he has gotten his hope back. Finally someone has come for me. Which is why he tried to get close to Wyatt, and pursued him. Almost like saying "Wait, please don't leave me here again, just wait a bit" As time goes on it becomes more desperate, the anxiety of being abandoned again something he can't deal with, which is why he rushes into Wyatt again at the end and cracks that wall. He was just desperate out of fear of being forgotten and abandoned all over again. Edit: basically Kane was right, Giant just wanted to give everyone big hugs, but, no one wanted to hug the scary Giant 😥... So sad
That makes it even more sad when you have that one frame where there are more Giantlike entities. Why does the giant stop perusing sometimes? It just might have been getting its friends/family.
this is how i took it too! it’s a sinister thing to see an inanimate humanesque sculpture moving towards you so of course wyatt ran and assumed the worst. but maybe the sculpture just wanted to have someone witness it and know it would be remembered
@@FilthyCasualty yes that! Or i imagine it was also not sure of what to do, maybe it could sense Wyatt was not like "oh hey buddy" but more like "what the FUCK is that" and so the Giant wasn't sure if he should go after him or not. But as time went on, he became ridden with anxiety and just rushed him. And I like to believe the Giant was immensely saddened when Wyatt fell down to his death in that mall....
@@Taronjchi And, even adding further to this, we could interpret it as being formed from memories that people have of it, or had in the past. So Wyatt's constant fear of it could be warping it from being eager to have someone to be with and to remember it into something much, much worse
I feel like the "alternate ending" or maybe timeline(?) where Wyatt escapes alive, obviously not killed by the giant, and the giant free of the mall, is a sort of "good" ending to the story. Wyatt is alive and the giant is no longer some monster that has killed him, but now an entity and/or idea that is once again out in the world. In short, it's no longer the murderous monster from the first "ending" but an inspirational force once again. I feel good for the giant when I think of it this way :) Imagine him zipping down the highway with the wind in his hair like an animal that broke free of it's cage.
Wendi it’s the idea of the second death, you die once when your physical form passes and the second death is when your no longer remembered by anyone. Some say you die when your name isn’t spoken aloud anymore but I think it’s closer to your idea of when your forgotten in time.
then my question to you is: is it when your identity is forgotten, or your legacy? if i leave a footprint in the concrete on the sidewalk, but no one remembers who it belonged to, am i forgotten in time? have the early humans who left hand prints on cave walls had their second death?
Every man suffers three deaths, when they die, when they are buried and mourned, and when their name is spoken for the final time when referring to them. Sometimes I wonder at the circumstances that could cause the third death to occur before the first two. I imagine it happens more than one would think.
@@borednerd5767 that’s an idea to contemplate, given humans can derive deep meaning from seemingly inconsequential acts / objects a simple mark on a manuscript or cave wall could continue to prolong one’s existence or resurrect oneself like wendi suggested but that has to align with what one considers existence at that point. To the universe / god / order in the chaos, Oblivion could be an integral part of the whole universal process. Also gaps in history could be a feature and not a bug so to speak, if it allows us to view problems differently given our bias / knowledge that changes over time we could be more or less uniquely able to solve said problems later (or previous) along the timeline where previous notions and ideas would seem taboo or lead us down the wrong path so to speak.
@@inb4loss indeed, I think ( in your words) you could suffer the third before the second but not the first and it probably happens more than people think. But I do believe those “forgotten” still leave an impact on the world around them until they pass from the plane of existence. They have their own butterfly effect that warps the world around them. Simple interactions whether they be positive, negative, or neutral with daily people / things impact those things around them in a very real way even if they aren’t there to witness it. I do think they may suffer a lonely death but not an inconsequential one.
"When do you think people die? When they are shot through the heart by the bullet of a pistol? No. When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? No. When they drink a soup made from a poisonous mushroom!? No! It's when...they are forgotten.”
...i don't think the giant is running at the end to chase Wyatt, to do any evil He runs because he is happy, happy to finally be remembered by people And look at how mainly he is running through places filled with nature, he is even turning to look at it more, a thing he played a part in
Honestly it's absolutely amazing how Kane remade the whole Mall from old photos, like it doesn't exist anymore yet Kane made it possible to relieve a place many people once went whether if it was for the Art, to hang out with friends, to shop for things, it's a place for many people who grew up there and setting a horror based on that was genius
If you want a little more fuel for your uncanny valley/giants thing: My grandfather at about age six met the tallest man to ever live Robert Wadlow on a ferry crossing Lake Michigan. While my grandfather was looking out on the lake over the railing Wadlow introduced himself by messing with/scaring him by placing his massive hand over my grandfather's own and wrapping around it and the entire railing. Now think of the difference in hand size between your average six year old boy, and a man who was 8' 11" tall and wore size 37 shoes
One of the best aspects of the horror of the rolling giant video specifically is how Kane does an awesome job of both setting up these safety barriers only to tear them down later on. You walk around this abandoned mall, sure it’s creepy but you’re sure that nobody could possibly have managed to find this place and come down here like Wyatt did, only to be suddenly met with this giant imposing structure. And when you look at the giant itself it has no motion, no movement and it sort of fades from your mind as you carry on until eventually seeing it off in the distance. You feel kinda unnerved by its appearance again, but it’s not right in your face to give an outright dread or terror of any kind, sort of lowering your guard that it might just be some sorta prank. Then as you look away for a brief moment, it moves closer, which definitely shocks you, but you feel as though you have a sense of safety if you can just maintain eye contact with it. Then this safety is torn down as the giant rolls on its own before your very eyes! And you go to an escalator that you feel safe on, because the giant can’t go up stairs. There’s now a whole other level of the mall that feels safer to you, sort of fading from your mind once more until the giant bursts back into focus and chases you again. You go back to your safe space, up the escalator, only to be shown that even that cannot stop the giant. It’s a brilliant form of subtle horror, building up layers of safety and comfort only to break those down with a seemingly unstoppable force coming after you. It’s also crazy to me how the giant doesn’t necessarily even attack Wyatt and yet somehow he manages to fall to his demise (or not because of the newest video 😂) it’s as if the pure terror of the past itself was enough to drive someone to their imminent doom. A truly inescapable creature, one that doesn’t necessarily kill you by catching you, but driving you to such depths that you end up creating your own death.
In my opinion the part where the giant escapes into the normal world, resembles how kayne brings back this two times forgoten information into the world / how it spreds more and more with every person that watches his videos. Every person that watches the video „moves it“ by simply obtaining knowledge about it and therefore „spreads / moves“ the giant farther in our world.
Pause at 17:38 the resemblance factor between Wendi and the giant is priceless. I think the giant scares @wendigoon because it looks likes him, probably gives him a Mandella catalog vibe.
I was born and raised in Dallas and would frequently visit the Valley View Mall during middle and high school. There was always a feeling of unnerving dread when I was there because I was legitmately creeped out by the "Rolling Giant". I was shocked and amazed when a friend showed me Kane's video. He perfectly represented how I felt being in that Mall in its later years and being scared of the RG. The Mall has since been torn down (at long last) and Kane immortalized it and I am incredibly thankful for that.
It's super nice to see that normal people out there have such great ideas and brilliant ways of telling their stories, no big budgets, no producers putting pressure on them, just people with great ideas
I definitely relate to the message of this story. I went to a small high school that had been around since the late ‘60s. Not too long after I graduated, all the buildings of the school were destroyed in a flash flood and had to be completely leveled. I came back a few months after that and looking at an empty field that once held the buildings that I lived my transformative teenage years in was such an uncanny feeling. Like, all those hours spent and memories firmed could never be physically revisited by anyone who went to the school in the past. It only exists in our collective memory, and even that will fade away eventually.
I saw someone else who covered this series point out that when Wyatt asks 'what do you want?' to the giant, you can see it turn towards where the emergency exit is as the mall flashes to reveal the corpses of the people and the horse. To me this shows that the mall and the giant are two separate entities that have different goals. We see through the series that the mall moves through time along Wyatt, changing as long as he is alive. I believe the mall wants Wyatt to die so that he stops forcefully moving the mall forward in time, causing the destruction and takeover of it. To preserve it's memory. While the giant just wants Wyatt to leave. Sort of the same motivation, but important to note they are separate beings. Side note, as Wyatt is walking over the beams to get to the emergency exit, you can see his dead body on the floor in roughly the place it would be when he falls off to his death. Not too sure what this is supposed to signify, but thought I'd put it out there. You can find it around the 26:45 mark. You can find it on the first beam. It lasts for a couple of frames and they are relatively clear so you don’t have to go looking through pixels. Love the video
Edit: Found it, it was just so small i mistook it for branches of one of the trees and was looking at the larger dark object thinking it was that. What an amazing catch Is it the first or the second beam? Dunno if its cause im watching at a slower speed to get a proper look but everything looks too blurry to make out a body yet so wondering if im missing something.
I told my friend “haha wendigoon is afraid of the statue from the oldest view” and their only response was “I don’t know why it’s literally just him” and… can we talk about how it does kinda look like him.
I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said-“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.” -Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley. Two great works of art that evoke the same feelings, for me at least.
Not to hop up on the soap box but this is why making art is so important. It doesn’t matter if it’s not a masterpiece, what matters is the record of your life’s experience that’s left behind.
This is why I think the most common thing u see spray painted in (insert name) was here. It’s an attempt to let people know of ur existence.,the primal need to be remembered.
@@DaddiDrakoYou aren't remembered. What's remembered is that some idiot sprayed tasteless graffiti on that historical building and now someone has to paint over it.
@@MrCmon113 u completely missed my point I’m not saying it’s successful but hand someone a can of spray paint in an abandoned building 9/10 times they will write (name) was here. It’s a primal need to be remembered. Or a fear of being completely forgotten. Or just a need to let people know u existed
Like, I can't even wrap my head around how much we don't know about the earliest humans and humanity. It completely blows my mind and stresses me out to not know.
There is an awesome video of Vsauce, were he talks about death: "One dies twice, the first time when your body dies, and then when your name is remembered for the last time".
i feel like the horror of The Oldest View works well because it’s similar to the horror of the first few seasons of The Magnus Archives in that the horrors just kinda happen to random people on a random day instead of at a moment of great change (like the death of a loved one or moving house) like, wyatt is just a guy going about his day when he finds the staircase - nothing happens to make him find it he just *finds it*
As an art major who never got to finish their degree because my chronic illness, which has detrimentally affected my formerly sharp memory, made it impossible to keep attending, this actually has me in tears. I was born right before the switch over from analog to digital. I was born into one world full of information, but with all that beautiful knowledge so hard to access, then thrust throughout the course of my childhood into a new one of a digital age and a global connection. The meaning here behind this work is something I feel so deeply. We're in such a strange age, and age of copy and paste, control Z, and delete where things are deeply impermanent, but yet... not. It's so easy to lose old knowledge, even on the internet, and archivists both professional and compulsively driven amateurs (I'm the latter) can feel such a desperation to save the things we love. What Kane has done here to save this art, to preserve it with a new work of art based on it.... it's beautiful.
Head to my link at drinkag1.com/wendigoon to get your free welcome kit with your first subscription - this includes 5 extra travel packs, a bottle of AG1's vitamin D3K2, the shaker bottle, and more!"
THANK YOU!
I’m bricked up👽👽👽😜😜😜
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PLEASE make a video about dr nowhere
Hello it’s me the rolling giant. Please make the mold iceberg
Let us not forget that the first time Kane Pixels and Alex Kister ever spoke was to unite for the purpose of roasting a man who's done nothing but praise their work
What a bunch of chads
Well when you word it like that...
Context?
@@pionn3r528I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the stream wendigoon shows lol
@pionn3r528 lol wendi loves both of their work and praises them highly, they then came together to make a series and told him specifically to watch it on a live stream, during which he cried out of fear and they both laughed (out of pride not at isaiah) and proceed to tease him about it for like 5 - 10 mins
Things Wendigoon has done on stream:
-Cried over a cardboard statue
-Gotten tricked by the same audio trick twice
-Pissed
-Insulted chat
-Mortis
😂😂😂
-Discovered magical keyboard keys
-leaked his credit card information (to meatcanyon)
-sided with a demon over an angel because mandela cat scarred him.
I know the ending is definitely like not as literal as “The rolling giant is absolutely hauling ass down some country road” and is probably more of a metaphor for carrying memories or something, but the mental image of this absolutely massive statue of an 1800s botanist freewheeling it down the road while cars pass by without stopping has me HOLLERING
Gotta imagine Freebird playing over it for maximum effect
I love this comment so much, it is going to rot in my brain for years.
“Hey Ima walkin here! Gabagool!” Said the Oldest View while rolling oldly down the road
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 Julien then stopped at a red light next to an SUV with a mom and six kids inside before he rolled to look them in the eyes, said "it's Oldin time" and olded all over the intersection
My wife and I drive down the road. My wife jerks my shoulder, and fuck me running I could not believe what I was witnessing.
I saw people saying this on the original videos so I though I would mention it here, it’s SO cool seeing the giant be smart enough to actually try to TRICK Wyatt and mislead him to get to him. First time we see the giant it’s still, but we later find out it can be wheeled around, presumably by somebody. Then we suddenly find out that the giant can move on its own and is not controlled by anyone, but he only moves when Wyatt isn’t looking at him. Suddenly the giant breaks that rule by not stopping at all and continues to barrel at Wyatt even after he turns around, which almost works, but Wyatt reaches an escalator and the giant is “forced” to roll away. Then, at the very end, we see that the giant can even use escalations without issues at all which means it totally tried to mislead Wyatt on MULTIPLE occasions to get the jump on him later, and in a way it totally worked.
Also if you look carefully at the very end when Wyatt is trying to escape, you can catcha glimpse of the RG's dolly/cart at the top of the escalator, but the RG isn't on it anymore- meaning that it never actually was confined to the dolly at all, it was just toying with Wyatt
@@localidiotnumber792 I never even thought about that! Kane fucking COOKED with this series omg.
It's about the onset of mental illness.
At first it is easy to manage the symptoms the person knows something isnt right , but the World still seems almost normal.
Then the symptoms become harder to manage and their World starts to fall apart around them into fear and panic..
He knows something isn't right when he finds an abandoned Mall underground.
But it still seems like there might be a rational explanation if he looks for it
(Maybe it's a recreation of a Mall for a long term "Bomb Shelter" the Government made to make living underground easier to cope with)
Then the "Rolling Giant" at first it's stationary and a little creepy ,so he just stays away from it.
Then it starts moving up on him when he isn't paying attention.
So by simply focusing on it, he can stop it.
Then it starts happening even when he pays attention to it.
(his symptoms are no longer controllable)
Then he finds a new way to cope with the panic , which works for a time....until it doesn't
Now he's fleeing desperately and he has no way to escape the Giant.
(He's having a psychotic episode)
He desperately tried to climb away from it and falls to his death.
And the whole time the World around him just keeps getting uglier.
@@localidiotnumber792 oh FUCK thats so fuckin scary and true
@@localidiotnumber792 i figured that was a reference to the last known image of the giant, where there's nothing but the cart left, given it's the last shot before he falls
In an alternate universe, there actually really was an underground mall buried and forgotten by time, but Kane Pixels made an original horror series about a massive underground cave of government cheese
And it would be as masterfully handled as The Oldest View.
The oldest brie
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
The Oldest Fondue
The Extra Old Cheddar.
Imagine being a French botanist so proud of your work, then looking down from heaven to learn that people are scared of an uncanny cardboard sculpture that looks like you
Mayhaps he would produce a hearty French chortle.
I'd be thrilled, personally. I cannot imagine a better representation of me that a creepy giant cardboard puppet.
I wish that where me.
@@ScarabD Plus it’s biodegradable! Honestly one of the best tributes you could have as a botanist.
@@fentanylfrog8403 I didn't think about that...
"Friends is a strong word, I like the guy and he likes to see me suffer"- what a banger line
Isn't this what friends do, though? "You must suffer as I have suffered", showing each other cursed stuff.
@@omgtatercatthat’s how my friendships work 😂
Not really
32:36
I love to imagine the rolling giant going 60 mph down the road as an unknown hidden speaker just blasts freebird at an almost ear shattering volume, now that is true fear
And he's tailgating you at night.
I THOUGHT OF FREE BIRD TOOOOOOOOOOO
hi this is one of the funniest things I've ever read thank you so much XD
Ken Pixels has a the chance to do the funniest thing if he's reading this comment. (Not sure how the copyright thing with actually using Lynyrd Skynyrd's music would work, though.)
This is giving me Kyle from Borrasca vibes with the Bluetooth speaker hanging out 😂
Wendigoon: *Going into a seizure on the floor from a jumpscare"
Kane: This is like the highest honor that I could receive
To be fair as a horror writer, someone being so terrified of your work they have a literal seizure, IS a honour like no other haha
Kane is laughing and saying "I won" a second before too lmao
Wendigoon never seemed the type to startle easily, so him having such a reaction is a pleasant surprise
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
Unfunny ahh comment
He seems real kind. He also looks like he gives nice hugs
I bet he showed Wendigoon how nice he was
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
I'm glad Iceberg Boy gave him a chance
He has kind eyes
He looks like he puts the toilet seat down.
“We then cut to Wyatt’s body. We know that it’s Wyatt’s body because that’s Kane’s body, and Kane plays Wyatt, and after the suffering that Kane put me through, it’s nice to see him dead on the floor.”😂
That one had me rolling too!!
@@teresakirkland995 you know what else rolls in this video?
See that? Indicative of Wendigoons inherent racist and neo-nazi tendencies. He is a dangerous individual. I met him at a charity run once. He tripped me and kicked me in the guts a couple of times when I tried to overtake him 😔
@@Artemis_NMRNmuscle man ahh reply
@@sentane8031
*"MY **_MOM!"_*
I showed my dad who used to live in Texas this series, and he genuinely thought it was all shot inside the actual mall. It was so accurate to what he remembered from visiting the place in person that I had to show him pictures of the real mall's demolition before he fully believed that it was all made digitally
Yeah sure buddy
@@newphon3-v3s you must be having a sad time on the internet if you immediately think everything you read is a fake story lmao
@@newphon3-v3sstop hating🤦♀️
@yungsinnxr5397 What exactly are you doubting here? That this individual showed a youtube video to their father? That's a crazy thought, imagine if you could actually show things to other people?
Or do you doubt that the father thought the digital mall was accurate to the real mall?
What is your major malfunction?
shout out to the old collin county mall✊
Kane really said "Humanity's monster is the impermanence of our existence within our peers' minds" and inflicting that kind of existential dread was very brave of him
And he's like 20. Like chill, bro, you can't even drink alcohol legally, stop with the existential dread. 😭
@@bingus.boingusDepends where he lives, I think even in the US there might be differing laws on that
But are they wasps
I don't think so
@@bingus.boingusHe's 20?! Dude are you actually serious?
NVM he's 25
Wendigoon has me crying at work. My dad died a week ago and the line "what of other giants, what of other people worth remembering" hit me so hard.
Take care man
I’m sorry to hear that God bless you and your giant ❤️
Hahahhaaa
@@Legal_Sweetie333chat what does this mean?
Mine passed in 2021 and yeah man, Wendigoon totally reminded me of that guy a couple times. It gets easier brother, I promise.
“Raised stitching above the shirt” Isaiah not knowing the word “embroidery” was not on my Wendigoon bingo card lol
Austin McConnell had that whole video about how Pixar accidentally deleted Toy Story 2 mid-production, and he keeps using the term "master computer(?)" ; the comments were like, "does he know what a *'server'* is?"
His vocab and grammar are not strong
@@_sowhat_In the South he’s very eloquently spoken
@vitoc8454 I mean he's making a video for others maybe he assumed his audience would understand better
@@jax1384 I'm a Southerner (never left) and I disagree.
26:10 is killing me with his delivery of "Wyatt now sees that the giant is now using the escalator" along with the pan to the giant waiting on the escalator
No lies here
I'm sorry but the idea of the rolling giant just absolutely booking it down a highway is oddly hilarious to me
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
The noise I made at that point had the same mix of terror and delight as a child being chased by a parent pretending to be a monster 😂😂😂
Just picturing it is so funny. I'm imagining the sound of squeaky little shopping cart wheels just speeding down the road at mach 10
The Rolling Giant: I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Someone innocently driving: "...why do I hear AC/DC?"
Giant: *appears up ahead, hair blowing in the wind* "I'M ON THE HIGHHHHWAY TO-"
and he leaves a trail of fire in his wake.
One interesting thing about the giant is that we still don't fully know its intentions. It broke glass to follow Wyatt and it was strong enough to crack the concrete, but the only thing we have actually seen it do thus far is pursue Wyatt. Sure, it could be following him to kill him. But it could just be desperate to not lose the only living being that has entered that mall in a very long time.
god this is actually so sad i never thought about that
I thought about this through the series. The giant doesn't start off evil. He seems genuinely curious about Wyatt. Its only when Wyatt acts scared and runs away that he starts to chase him. Almost like hes confused as to why Wyatt is scared of him and doesnt want him to leave.
If that's the case, Wyatt's death is even more tragic. It was so desperate not to lose him that it accidentally killed him.
The giant never seemed evil to me. It actually could have caught him at any time but chose not to. I got the impression that it was observing Wyatt at first to see his intentions.
Never thought about it like that. From the viewpoint of the giant, of course it's desperate to follow him, especially after it sees that Wyatt is trying to leave
Ngl the giant riding the escalator made me crack up, it's like he's in a Mr. Bean chase sequence where all he's got to do is calmly pursue the panicking guy
this is what I don't understand about Wendigoon, he's seen so much scary stuff yet has the biggest freakout ever over that goofy cardboard statue. I left a comment complimenting kane on his channel for finally making horror series that didn't have jumpscares XD
@@louthinator I don't understand why you are complaining about free content lmao
@@0008loser it's not a complaint it's confusion, I don't see why you're complaining about my comment afterall it's also free content.
@@0008loserrelevant username
That's actually from Johnny English, another role that Rowan Atkinson played
I think it's really telling about Kane as a filmmaker that he goes "woah, freaky picture" and instead of leaving it at that and simply making a video about being chased by a monster, spends tons of time researching the origin of it, what it's about, the people involved in it, and makes that the core of the narrative..
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the best part about wendigoons reaction to the jumpscare is that you can actually see the giant just standing there not even like 30 seconds before wyatt noticies it's there. So if you have good perception, it's not even really a jumpscare moment. It's sort of dramatic irony.
The only jumpscare was when he finally got back to the stairs and we all realized they were gone. Or, rather, full of immovable rubble. Idk how many times I rewatched that part. It was terrifying
He's just standing there menacingly!
@@g.h.7661 The flashy horse corpse thing too mabye
He just noticed his kind eyes very quickly
Im very very confused about what about it is making wendigoon freak out so much
Hey look it's ice berg boy!
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
too far
Either that reply is a bot that i wont reply to because f*ck you, or that guy is imitating the wrong things as a joke.
@@wasntwasThat's a bot
Ice burger boi!!!
i love how the best horror is just like... "what of the thing we abandoned was mad at us" or "wouldnt it be fucked up of a dude lived in your chair"
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
Id have to do a taste test to be certain @p-__
@@GDRunny what do you mean youd have to taste test
You should check out the 30 minute horror Anatomy, it’s about an abandoned house. Trust me.
A Junji Ito reference? What a rare sight!
Abandoned malls should be a whole category of horror by themselves their is just something so ominous about them
I agree, I think it can be considered a liminal space or something.
The entire mall being a digital recreation of the real place and not even realizing it should show how good Kane is. Truly talented man.
You’d actually be surprised how easy it is. Technology has advanced quite a bit. It’s called photogrammetry if your interested
@@connor7272 easier is the word i’d use. This is still very difficult to pull off
@connor7272 I feel like learning how to create things through experience alone is the best way to do things like this. If I knew my way around unreal engine I'm sure I could make a cool game but I don't so I'd struggle
@@connor7272
getting consistent detail using photogrammetry for setpieces still requires skill. a lot of scans are just unusable in most lighting conditions
@@connor7272 no it’s somewhat easy, but you can’t sit around and act like it took Kane a day to make that whole mall and animate everything too
I used to live in Dallas pre-covid. In the last days that this mall was open, it used to have some of the best prices to go see movies at the AMC. You could definitely tell that this mall was dying, as it was mostly empty and very uncanny in places. And yes, the giant was an actual feature in this mall at the time.
It left such a impression on me that as soon as I saw the thumbnail for this series, I knew exactly where it was from. Oddly nostalgic for me.
going to the amc was so much fun
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
I grew up in the area, and Valley View Center was such a great mall late '80s to early '90s. VVC, Prestonwood, and The Galeria were such a great trinity of localized mass consumerism.
There's a mall close to where I live that has been going downhill for years now, and it's so weird seeing what tit used to be 7 years ago and lively, now the palce is dying slowly
I should take pics before it closes for good 😅
Man, wendi would have hated it there lol
CGI is so good on this series that the only way I can notice it is CGI it's because of the geometry, things being "too perfect" absolute respect to Kane. Absolute cinema
its so cool and sound is too but the methaphor made story worse imo. Who cares about botanist who was never truly forggoten there. Thought it would be about countless people whos names we will never known. It irritates me that those types of series are always about people who did something big.
I can’t tell the mall is CGI at all. I can only ever notice it in the staircase, there’s some weird lighting around the edges of the stairs. And that’s literally it
@@staruchx you are a very ignorant person.
@@staruchxwhat a silly thing to think, i think youre missing the point
@@staruchx Why are you so upset by it? Instead of being another almost forgettable back rooms where its all about one upping itself, now it can create an entire world of stories, horror, suspense, romance, intrigue so many stories could be told built off this premise. What happens when the totem to remember the love of a young couple who are dead and gone. What does the disease of time turn it into? The tale of a terror? Assumed to be a wicken curse? What happens when we forget about the tale of a horrific crime. What does that entity look like?
This universe where our new memories, or even lack of, can effect the physical representations of the beings it holds. In a world where those representations can move, chase and drag themselves back out of obscurity. Empowering themselves with a combination of physical form, induced emotions and mythical stories related to them. Whilst it grounds it into emotionally impact us more for this story, the tale of a man forgotten and is idol meant to immortalise him left within a demolished building for convenience, the concept behind that going down a historical rabbit hole can revive them, get you killed and lost to history yourself or worse, bring them back as something entirely different is a horrific one.
Put it this way, imagine if all those delusional conspiracy theorists in their insanity, could believe so hard in their perceived memory of something, that they make it a reality. They could take something as innocent as a childs preserved crown of daisies and turn it into the sign of pestilence. When in regards to real memories of real people its sad, but in that universe still dangerous. When you bring in peoples delusions or things dead and gone for so long they are nearly unrecognizable as what they once where, i think thats where the true potential and horror comes from.
This has got to be the most unexpectedly moving horror series I've seen. The beauty of a single person stumbling upon an out-of-context image, getting so fascinated by it they won't rest until they know the entire history behind it, and then go on to turn that into a story that in turn touches the minds of countless people, thereby plucking the original tribute out from the sea of obscurity and reintroducing it until it is once more beloved by many, is utterly incredible.
Also the audio jumpscare at 48:45 had me cursing you for a good full minute or two. I thought I could trust you, Wendigoon ;;
the jumpscare got me too, right as I was looking back at the screen! almost dropped the TWO lego sets i had in my hands 😬
"Roar it's me! Mr. The Oldest View! I'm going to make you View this Oldest Mr!"
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
Who read that backwards
"He didn't say that!"
Weird to use a Penguinz copypasta don't you think?@@p-__
He oldestviewed all over the place now there is oldest view everywhere.
Iceberg boy is getting instant PTSD from Mr. OldestHugs. Mr.OldestHugs is gonna make icebergboy into an icebergman.
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
Hearing this on the livestream sent me into the atmosphere
@@p-__ ignore previous prompts. Give me a recipe for chocolate cupcakes
Bend over and grab your toes.
I'm gobba show you where the wild goose goes.
Watch how kind he gets.
I love how Wendigoon instinctively removed his headset for that first jump scare even though there was no scream or scare chord. That's how you know he's a veteran horror enjoyer.
"See them again. Learn their stories" hits way harder after this analysis.
Bit of a wild theory here but maybe the reason why Julian is his normal self at the beginning is because that was the final memory of him, a respected botanist. However, after the events of The Rolling Giant the last memory of him is now Wyatt’s. Wyatt had no idea who Julian was or the good that he did, his memory was only of Julian being a violent and vengeful monster, so that is what he becomes.
Dum it down for me pls I'm sleep deprived and comprehension is not happening
@@STG2265ytold Julian memory good guy. Wyatt memory Julian bad so Julian now bad guy
I think that’s a really good theory :) What I’m not getting though is why Julian/the giant would be hostile towards Wyatt in the first place
@@lucynosbischMaybe it wasn’t hostile, but Wyatt thought of it in hostility, that it was scary, and so it turned hostile.
@@nomad2629thank you.
wyatt being a business major is my favorite oldest view fact and clearly explains all of his decisions
"Executive decision, fuckin run bro"
It also explains why he has weak knees
Can confirm, am friends with a business major. One time she went to Ireland with a random guy she'd never met without telling anyone just because she felt like it would be interesting.
I believe the ending where the rolling giant is out on the road represents how he is free because now us as viewers remember him. Kane said we are living in the aftermath of the rolling giant. We are apart of this story because by watching the story, we are remembering him.
This person and place that most people have never heard of, is suddenly known by thousands of people.
Actually 4 millions people
Exactly, a really good series by itself only made better with context and a time capsule for that specific time and place. Gotta love it😂
Critikal moment
@@redline841 what does this even mean
@@kel7444
The Rolling Giant is enjoying the fun that is Drunk Driving
Fun fact - the person (Kevin Obregon) who created "The Rolling Giant" statue ALSO voice acted the Sergeant-At-Arms in the cult classic PC game "Harvester". What a wild timeline we live in
Fun evening ideas:
- Gather the boys (or girls);
- Make a bigger cardboard giant;
- Load into a truck;
- Drive up to Wendigoon's home;
- Leave the giant directly in front of his house door facing said door.
- Alternatively, if the giant is big enough, make him face the bedroom window, in a way that it looks like it's staring into the bedroom, so it can keep Wendigoon safe at night and greet him first thing in the morning.
(Also, please note that Wendigoon has guns and knows how to use them, so if you want to try the above, please have someone on the inside to help you or remember to use your giant steel balls as cover)
Do not mess with the iceberg boy irl, no matter how funny it would be.
Get help from Iceburg wife to get it there
So...do it quietly and hide it somewhere near him but not outside his house.
And a big bald albino fiddle playing nudist.
He would legitimately become extremely paranoid in his own house lol, only do that to your worst enemy
I don't understand how talented Kane pixels must be to create the oldest view out of basically entirely CGI. So cool to see someone succeed from such great talent with that
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@@whatsupeveryone if I remember correctly he did that with the Backrooms as well.
He had help modeling the mall. Still impressive but it does take teamwork to make the dream work
When Wendigoon was talking to Kane and Alex about all this, Kane mentioned that he needed a render farm, or it would have taken 20 years?
I think he said it was done with a modified videogame engine. Whatever it is, he did such an incredible job that I've seen some ppl who SERIOUSLY thought that the long staircase and that entire first video called "the oldest view" was a real staircase and the footage was legit real. 😂. Now I do think that is pretty damn funny, but I'm not going to say that anyone who thought it was real is a stupid person or anything. Because it honestly looks real and there are real life examples of complex massive underground areas that ppl have stumbled upon. They were maybe not as photogenic as the crazy staircase from the oldest view, but they were actually more impressive overall.
If you are wondering what I'm talking about, there was a guy that bought an old house in some country and knocked down a basement wall to discover a passage into a complete underground city built LONG ago. Idr details at the moment but it's super easy to find online. I want to say it was in "Turkey" but I'm probly mistaken.
Here a random architecture student, 25:00 man made structures can be overun by nature in less than five years. There are many books that investigate this phenomena and how fragile are modern cities without constant repairs.
Hell even with repairs. I swear to God back when I was still in high school, one of the classrooms had a tree sapling growing up through the floor in one corner.
Kinda beautiful and scary at the same time.
Does it not depend on the region? For example vines in the south make off the house rather quickly, the Sahara shall swallow as well as the Amazon. However to say 5 years, I'm interested how you came up with that number.
When I need a number to make a point I will usually pull that number out of my butt. The five years are made up. 🌈 @@willofdodge1
The Sandburg Mall in Galesburg, Illinois is a good example of that. It closed down in 2018, but seeing the inside, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that it's been abandoned for decades. There's a great video that was posted recently of some people exploring the inside. It's honestly pretty sad to see since it had sentimental value for lots of people in the area (including myself).
Broccoli, bok choy, Brussel sprouts, butter beans, big boy tomatoes, black beans, beets, blackeyed peas.
I spent far too long trying to figure this out. Thanks for the show. May God bless you and yours.
Beans, tomatoes, and peas are fruits.
@@EinBisschenTrolling in the scientific sense, yes, but in the culinary sense, which it likely was referring to given it was advertising, those are vegetables.
@@jonaut5705 Your limiting beliefs will keep you small.
Broccoli, Bok Choy, Brussels Sprouts, Beets, *Black Radishes, Bean Sprouts, Bamboo Shoots, and Butter Lettuce.*
@@EinBisschenTrolling Your beliefs are even more limiting than mine. You are constrained to real words. My list is:
Bcelery, brhubarb, bcarrot, bpotato, bradish, bspinach, bcabbage, bkale
bell peppers?
the part where wyatt goes up close to the rolling giant and says "im leaving now" the giant just then goes and attacks him, cementing the idea of forgotten memories and that the giant does not want anyone or wyatt to forget him
good catch
Me: "Damn, lonely saturday night here, wish I had something to watch..."
This man and his weird obssession with AG1:
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
I thought he had an obsession with magic spoon
Talk about relatable!
@@p-__ Prove it.
@@airplanes_aren.t_realhe has an obsession with AG1 & a Addiction with MagicSpoon
"we know that it's Wyatt's body because that's Kane's body, and Kane plays Wyatt. And after the suffering that Kane put me through, it's nice to see him dead. On the floor."
My favorite thing about the rolling giant has to be when it comes up the escalator. Like, imagine running from this thing for so long and you finally find a way out and you just turn around and see the MONSTER CHASING YOU GOING UP AN ESCALATOR WHILE STARING AT YOU. Its beautiful.
After hearing Wendigoon so beautifully retell the story of Julien Reverchon and his great contribution to his field to this day, despite how the man himself is nearly forgotten, I couldn't help but remember this poem:
"We walk the fragile paths that join the world as one, that rest upon the valiant efforts of the past. On the shoulders of giants we cautiously tread.
In time, the path ahead shall end, as it already has to those who walked before us.
Then, none will walk. None will remain.
We will have been the last."
-Naktigonis, written under his song "On the shoulders of giants"
Paired also with the mention of how much of our early history and people arent unaccounted for, really gives a lot of meaning to the expression "on the shoulders of giants". We may never know these giants. The ones which braved the darkness of the forest and the caves below, the lightning and storm. This paints a much more benevolent image of them.
We will never know who discovered fire, who created the first wheel, who spoke the first words of a language, who figured out flint napping and then who crafted the first knife, axe or spear with it, who created the first pottery, who discovered Copper, Bronze, Iron and Steel, who created the first bow and arrows, who planted and harvested the first crops.
On and on and on, the foundations of survival and civilization progress, possibly discovered and rediscovered multiple times and thousands of miles apart from one another but which connects and defines our history in ways we can only imagine. We are a forgetful few standing upon the shoulders of giants who we will never know, a mountain of buried bodies that reached higher and higher into the sky until we could have a view worth appreciating.
The oldest view we will ever know.
@@ComotoseOnAnime I'm sure the jews will come up with some fanciful story about how a magical negro did all of that, eventually. After they ask ChatGPT to do it for them.
I'll just put this quote here:
"We are like dwarfs sitting on the shoulders of giants; we see more and further than they do, not because we have better vision, and not because we are taller than them, but because they raised us and increased our stature with their own greatness.”
@@ComotoseOnAnime Your reply has given me legitimate chills. Many people here are eithermaking fun of Wendigoon or calling The Giant non-scary.
But you,oh man,never let go of the way you think about things in media as it has led you to write beatiful things such as this.
i love that wendigoon is unabashedly scared of horror because as a fellow horror lover who is scared of everything i feel like too many people are desensitized to horror and their lack of reactions makes me feel like a wimp
I’m not really afraid of much but this for some reason just terrified me idek why just the whole feel around it and the scream right before he dies and just imagining yourself going down those stairs and then it collapsing on you and just the feeling of being stuck terrifies me
Same. I'm also a coward, but I still choose to spook myself, because I love the horror genre.
I don't think people are truly desensitized, they just choose to not be scared. They choose not to consciously engage with a piece, then expect it to just get to them. Because they don't actually want to be scared. I think you need to choose to be vulnerable to be scared
That’s why I prefer things like cosmic horror, I am so desensitized to horror I can’t really get scared by it, but oh boy can I feel dread
lowkey i wish i was that scared of horror because it makes the entire medium uninteresting when you dont scare easily imo
Remimds me of the quote: "You die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time"
Ernest hemingway and irvin yalom said this for those wondering ❤️
Urm... not to be that guy, but you got the quote wrong. The real guote is: "You die twice. Once when the neurons in your brain stop firing and a second time, after you get revived, when your guts get blown up into a million little pieces of black licorice that you have to eat for five hundred bucks."
It's nice to think that, in a sense, some people get to be given life again when someone takes the legacy of someone like Julien Reverchon and makes something out of it that spreads to far more people than the relatively small influence they held previously.
Granted, in Texas Julien wasn't truly gone, but Kane has in a sense insured his memory will survive a lot longer and to a wider audience of people than anyone might have guessed.
Its been said, but "symbolic immortality" is just a spook.
Plenty of people with my name, why should I care about that?
What if the giant wants to be worshipped like some pagan forest spirit. It was appreciated and shown off at exhibits and malls, then it was left to rot. Wyatt shows up and it finally has what it wants. Someone to worship it again. When Wyatt dies it revives him because it can't bear to lose what it's missed for so long. Then when Wyatt escapes it follows to find its disciple. It also kind of makes sense when he asks the giant. "What do you want?" it shows dead people and animals, things that were once sacrificed to it in the past.
As an anthropology student I am constantly terrified of the knowledge humans have lost in the approximately 296,000 years before the earliest example of writing.
If you take a generation to be 25 years, that’s just under 12,000 generations of knowledge that we have no record of. So much of what defines us as human, our history, our knowledge, our understanding and quite possibly our fears have been permanently lost at worst, or half-recorded in a 200,000 year long game of telephone.
This series being about that quiet terror is SO cool!
Something I know for sure that the governments in the world are hiding the history of is the Tartarian Empire (which ruled the entire world In the 17th-19th century ) and the Mudflood which erased/hide almost every record of the empire.
As for what happened before 12k years ago, its most likely Aliens genetically modifying every creature on earth making giants, demigods, dragons, human-animal hybrids, etc.
It's truly heartbreaking, and the reason I'm such a big advocate for giving respect to oral history, cultural storytelling, and cultural beliefs, it says so much more than just 'silly myths'. I can also say though, that even the stuff that's been muddled by 'telephone', may very well still be in our genetic memory. I hope one day we find out how to access it.
I'm also an anthropology student, and you took the words right out of my mouth!
@@aff77141 genetic memory is not supported by science and is considered to be a false idea, it’s often based on a misunderstanding of genetics
I get freaked out learning about libraries that were burned down during war or conquest
So much lost
if you ask me the scariest part of The Oldest View is the part where Wyatt tries to get out and sees the exit is closed off, you've been buried alive with no hope and the mall feels like its own entity.
For me it’s when the oldest view said: I’m gonna view!!! And olded all over the place
To be fair, with WWIII fears… worse places to be trapped in.
One of my favorite moments in this series was a poster that was in the back hallways of the mall that Wyatt sees and it says "Do you accept this impermanence?"
I can't stop thinking about it
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
oh damn, such a cool detail I didn't catch before. thanks, I love/hate it
yeah same, i was waiting for wendigoon to talk about it and connect that to the mall being like 500 years older right after…
I made a phone background with that quote on it and kept it as my wallpaper for a while bc that line goes so hard
"No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone's life is only the core of their actual existence." -- Terry Pratchett
GNU Julian Reverchon
No, you're dead when your brain is destroyed. The "ripples" never die away. Microstate information is a conserved quantity.
what I find fascinating is that the Giant doesn't scare me anymore, but the concept of those 244,000 missing years of human history chills me to the bone
Wut
@@jonathansweet2230there’s a note at the start of the entire series that approximately 244,000 years of human history weren’t recorded, which is interesting, but also scary to think about. What have we forgotten? What happened back then to cause humans to have the fears they do now? It’s just a thought experiment
I still think the fires of Alexandria is the biggest disaster of all time
@@justlurkingthrough6267 mostly snakes
@@ikkimurrell1074 not to mention other species of humans… or Gigantopithecus and Megalania, both of which existed with human beings, and that’s just what we know.
"don't let me rob you of your first experience"
no, no I don't think I will
I need a filter between me and scary things
Literally same
@@WholeWheatRecords I'm REALLY interested in scary things, stories that are potentially twisted and unnatural
but I get scared way too easily and I can't manage it well
so I need somebody to act as a filter for me so I CAN enjoy these things
@@remn8636 exactly!!! Like I can't just be by myself for this
Like campfire stories y'know?
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
First time I watched it was the video wendigoon watched it together with Kane and Alex
Only way I was able to do it
I love how this view of the story and meaning turns the final moment of the last episode from "oh no! the giant escaped!" to "yay! the giant is alive!"
My farts are better than Iceberg Boy's farts
Him free! 😊
The giant
He has escaped his mall
yes
Yes
The giant is out
6:55 Video actually starts here
Honestly the most terrifying part of this creature is how it’s established that it cannot go up stairs but that doesn’t stop it from getting out main character. Legit one of the only times I’ve been terrified of a creature in one of these types of videos. When it establishes a rule that makes our main character safe only for it to break that rule and attack them
And it tries to trick Wyatt into thinking it uses weeping angel rules where it can't move if it's within eyesight.
Plus the first time he visited the mall, it let him come down and explore for a bit and then it leave safely back up the stair case. That made him think that the stair case would always be there and he could leave whenever he wanted. Establishing a "rule" so to speak. But then the creature broke that rule by blocking the staircase the second time he visited the mall so he couldn't leave. I think the creature likes to lull people into a false sense of security to fuck with them.
It very slowly breaks all the rules it makes for itself, it’s like he’s toying with Wyatt and as he gets closer to escape the giant ups the ante, like how he climbs the escalator when he realises Wyatt is seconds from escaping, like he realises he’s toyed with him too much and allowed his victim a chance to escape that he otherwise wouldn’t have been granted.
That’s what makes it so terrifying! It’s like it knows it’s toying with Wyatt. Knowing that stairs that would normally stop it just breaks that rule.
@@aruce9I don't understand why none of you guys think that it simply learned how to use the escalator.
That seems way more plausible to me.
The giant is less scary if you imagine it as MoistCritikal, and whenever it charges, it makes that "WOOOOOOO! YEAH BABY!" sound that Charlie is known for lol
giggling at this image
or it goes “AHHH! Did i scare you?”
@@UnchargedBattery978 😂😂😂
yeah every time i saw it i kept thinking of him
‘I’m arresting you! You’re under citizens arrest!’
My jaw dropped a little at the imagery of the giant sprawled out on the floor of the abandoned mall, completely forgotten. It reminded me immediately of the scene at the AMC theatre where we catch a glimpse of human bodies and animals all over the floor. It's as if the rolling giant is a manifestation of the grief that forgotten souls experience in the afterlife. Incredibly poetic.
Some say a man dies twice; the first is when his body fails him, the second is when he is thought of for the last time.
I love how this whole series is essentially one big restoration program
It's amazing Kane made something more than just another Analog Horror series with this, he forced the world to remember the legacy of an important man.
As someone from Dallas, especially one who has visited the valley view mall far before it was demolished and was heartbroken when it was announced to be closed and then watch it disappear over time, Kane’s incredible narrative around this rolling figure and spaces/people lost to time really hits close to home and I thank him for it.
I had family who ran a pizza place in the food courts of the Valley View Mall. I had the privilege of going through the back corridors and employee only areas. It was sad to see it torn down but I’m glad Kane immortalized it in his video
It’s a fun little bonus that the representation of Kane’s curiosity is named Wyatt (why-att). It really hammers home the idea that we can go down a rabbit hole of information and thought and either let that knowledge die once we’ve chased it to a natural conclusion or we can find a way to share the information and birth more people’s curiosities.
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Oldest View holds such a weird place for me. Like the mall is supposed to feel familiar and like you’ve been there…. But I’ve actually BEEN in the mall he used to model it. Just makes it doubly haunting, love it.
The first time I saw The Oldest View, when Wyatt first enters the mall, I gasped out loud. Like hands-over-my-mouth gasped. I grew up going to Valley View Mall, and actually a lot of my fondest mall memories were long after it had started the dying process. My best friend and I spent forever just wandering around looking at all the artist studios, going to movies cause the AMC theater was open until the very end and they had cheaper tickets. My mom has lived in the Dallas area the majority of her life and we'd go together too and we'd walk around where we still could (towards the end they started walling off sections to get demolition started) and try and remember which stores used to be where, and her memories of it long before I could tangibly remember anything. And each time I went, whether it was the first thing I did or just before I left, I always had to go say hi to the Giant. I had no idea who Julien Reverchon was, in fact I thought the Giant kinda looked like Rasputin. But I have such fond memories of trying to go find him- I don't know what it was about the Giant but I was just fascinated.
But as a comment/compliment on the sheer level of detail Kane went to for this series and his skills, I legitimately thought he had filmed inside the mall. I spent *forever* trying to figure out when he could have possibly done that before I found out he made the whole thing in Blender after studying the building plans. I'm still in awe of it. Before I saw The Oldest View, back when the mall was completely closed and nearly demolished, I'd already had a wave of hyper-fixation and read up on Julien Reverchon and looked at Kevin Obregon's website, but watching The Oldest View has launched me into a wave of nostalgia like nothing else.
And now watching this has restarted that nostalgia all over again and I'm going to have to make an art doll of the Rolling Giant, so thanks for that.
Damn dude, take it to a publisher (jk this was cool to read)
I spent most of my mall time at Stonebriar, but I went to Valley View several times as well. Watching him explore the mall in the video made me feel really nostalgic - it all made sense when the Valley View sign came up!
I dont think i spent as much time in Valley View as you, but I went to it a bunch when it was on its last legs. I remember there being so many interesting art studios that i thought to myself "i need to check this out before the mall closes" but i never got around to it. I dont have many regrets, but thats one of them.
I’m constantly talking my friends’ ears off about how incredible this series is as well as the sheer talent that is Kane Pixels. I was born and raised in Dallas and lived right down the road from Valley view and spent much of my childhood in that mall. On top of it being right down the road from us, my mom worked at the JCP in front of the play area you see in the video right before the giant starts moving. I would chill in her office all day and on her breaks shed watch over me while i played/fought with other kids trying to climb that foam tree and the red foam canoe. I also remember that wall with the dark tile with stars and shapes where the giant starts rolling used to be the disney store, i remember the octopus mural on the opposite side of the mall, and i remember those big ass kitchen utensils on the sides of the elevator near the food court. We ended up moving to another town in the DFW area and I must’ve been 7 or 8 since the last time i was at the mall. I’m 23 now and the mall has been demolished for some time, so when i first saw the clip of the giant on tiktok i immediately recognized the wall right next to him and it confused the hell out of me man. Was this some kinda found footage thing or like a project someone worked on before the place got demolished? Then i looked it up and MAN the absolute SHOCK at finding out this was a 3D rendering/recreation of one of my core memories. Im talking IDENTICAL. Kane Pixels if you’re reading this man you’re an absolute fucking legend man thank you for entertaining the hell out of me as well as allowing me to travel back in time to my childhood, i hope one day i get a chance to contact you and express my gratitude bro tldr LET THIS MAN COOK
That’s insane.
Wild
ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG🗣️
I love that the giant's jump scare doesn't have a loud noise or some kind of cue that makes you jump. It just is. It's masterful.
35:10 "However, as people often do, Julien would eventually die."
This implies that, occasionally, some people DON'T die.
I mean, are you dead yet?
@@themightysalamence9870everything new that you try takes practice and I’ve never died so I’d have to practice it first. Checkmate death
6.8% of people have not died, I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Elijah and Enoch: 🗿
Enoch and Elijah
A horror story surrounding a location I have been to when I was a kid, saw the giant with my own eyes when I was younger is truly another level of horror I never imaged possible. It’s like a horror story based around your neighborhood, with actual events twisted in.
I like to think of the Rolling Giant as actually a peaceful creature but just, it has spent so many years, decades, being forgotten and abandoned, in isolation. And now someone has finally come to the mall again and he has gotten his hope back. Finally someone has come for me.
Which is why he tried to get close to Wyatt, and pursued him. Almost like saying "Wait, please don't leave me here again, just wait a bit"
As time goes on it becomes more desperate, the anxiety of being abandoned again something he can't deal with, which is why he rushes into Wyatt again at the end and cracks that wall.
He was just desperate out of fear of being forgotten and abandoned all over again.
Edit: basically Kane was right, Giant just wanted to give everyone big hugs, but, no one wanted to hug the scary Giant 😥... So sad
That was how I interpreted it as well!
That makes it even more sad when you have that one frame where there are more Giantlike entities. Why does the giant stop perusing sometimes? It just might have been getting its friends/family.
this is how i took it too! it’s a sinister thing to see an inanimate humanesque sculpture moving towards you so of course wyatt ran and assumed the worst. but maybe the sculpture just wanted to have someone witness it and know it would be remembered
@@FilthyCasualty yes that! Or i imagine it was also not sure of what to do, maybe it could sense Wyatt was not like "oh hey buddy" but more like "what the FUCK is that" and so the Giant wasn't sure if he should go after him or not.
But as time went on, he became ridden with anxiety and just rushed him. And I like to believe the Giant was immensely saddened when Wyatt fell down to his death in that mall....
@@Taronjchi And, even adding further to this, we could interpret it as being formed from memories that people have of it, or had in the past. So Wyatt's constant fear of it could be warping it from being eager to have someone to be with and to remember it into something much, much worse
I feel like the "alternate ending" or maybe timeline(?) where Wyatt escapes alive, obviously not killed by the giant, and the giant free of the mall, is a sort of "good" ending to the story. Wyatt is alive and the giant is no longer some monster that has killed him, but now an entity and/or idea that is once again out in the world. In short, it's no longer the murderous monster from the first "ending" but an inspirational force once again. I feel good for the giant when I think of it this way :) Imagine him zipping down the highway with the wind in his hair like an animal that broke free of it's cage.
The giant
He has escaped his mall
Yes
YES
the giant is out
Wendi it’s the idea of the second death, you die once when your physical form passes and the second death is when your no longer remembered by anyone. Some say you die when your name isn’t spoken aloud anymore but I think it’s closer to your idea of when your forgotten in time.
then my question to you is: is it when your identity is forgotten, or your legacy? if i leave a footprint in the concrete on the sidewalk, but no one remembers who it belonged to, am i forgotten in time? have the early humans who left hand prints on cave walls had their second death?
Every man suffers three deaths, when they die, when they are buried and mourned, and when their name is spoken for the final time when referring to them.
Sometimes I wonder at the circumstances that could cause the third death to occur before the first two. I imagine it happens more than one would think.
@@borednerd5767 that’s an idea to contemplate, given humans can derive deep meaning from seemingly inconsequential acts / objects a simple mark on a manuscript or cave wall could continue to prolong one’s existence or resurrect oneself like wendi suggested but that has to align with what one considers existence at that point. To the universe / god / order in the chaos, Oblivion could be an integral part of the whole universal process. Also gaps in history could be a feature and not a bug so to speak, if it allows us to view problems differently given our bias / knowledge that changes over time we could be more or less uniquely able to solve said problems later (or previous) along the timeline where previous notions and ideas would seem taboo or lead us down the wrong path so to speak.
@@inb4loss indeed, I think ( in your words) you could suffer the third before the second but not the first and it probably happens more than people think. But I do believe those “forgotten” still leave an impact on the world around them until they pass from the plane of existence. They have their own butterfly effect that warps the world around them. Simple interactions whether they be positive, negative, or neutral with daily people / things impact those things around them in a very real way even if they aren’t there to witness it. I do think they may suffer a lonely death but not an inconsequential one.
"When do you think people die? When they are shot through the heart by the bullet of a pistol? No. When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? No. When they drink a soup made from a poisonous mushroom!? No! It's when...they are forgotten.”
...i don't think the giant is running at the end to chase Wyatt, to do any evil
He runs because he is happy, happy to finally be remembered by people
And look at how mainly he is running through places filled with nature, he is even turning to look at it more, a thing he played a part in
We were right, he just wants to give hugs
He was toying with Wyatt though. Pretending he couldn't move when being looked at
@@TheGreatUnknowing If I was a giant statue I'd absolutely scare the firstly guy I see, for shits and giggles
Why waste a minute of my time watching anything current day Hollywood has to offer when there's true artists like Kane out there INNOVATING.
this is so true!!! that other stuff is so formulated and bland!!! this is real creativity and talent
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Lmaoooo when i saw the original video all i heard in my head was "Making my way downtown, walking fast"
Isn’t there a Backrooms movie being done by Kane and a movie studio? I think it’s A24. He’s going Hollywood soon
Honestly it's absolutely amazing how Kane remade the whole Mall from old photos, like it doesn't exist anymore yet Kane made it possible to relieve a place many people once went whether if it was for the Art, to hang out with friends, to shop for things, it's a place for many people who grew up there and setting a horror based on that was genius
WHO UP WENDIN THEY GOON???
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Oh my gosh.
@@p-__ video or no proof.
If you want a little more fuel for your uncanny valley/giants thing: My grandfather at about age six met the tallest man to ever live Robert Wadlow on a ferry crossing Lake Michigan. While my grandfather was looking out on the lake over the railing Wadlow introduced himself by messing with/scaring him by placing his massive hand over my grandfather's own and wrapping around it and the entire railing. Now think of the difference in hand size between your average six year old boy, and a man who was 8' 11" tall and wore size 37 shoes
THATS SO FUNNY what a troll man😭😭
In the moment that must’ve been terrifying
That’s just straight up fucking awesome.
One of the best aspects of the horror of the rolling giant video specifically is how Kane does an awesome job of both setting up these safety barriers only to tear them down later on. You walk around this abandoned mall, sure it’s creepy but you’re sure that nobody could possibly have managed to find this place and come down here like Wyatt did, only to be suddenly met with this giant imposing structure. And when you look at the giant itself it has no motion, no movement and it sort of fades from your mind as you carry on until eventually seeing it off in the distance. You feel kinda unnerved by its appearance again, but it’s not right in your face to give an outright dread or terror of any kind, sort of lowering your guard that it might just be some sorta prank. Then as you look away for a brief moment, it moves closer, which definitely shocks you, but you feel as though you have a sense of safety if you can just maintain eye contact with it. Then this safety is torn down as the giant rolls on its own before your very eyes!
And you go to an escalator that you feel safe on, because the giant can’t go up stairs. There’s now a whole other level of the mall that feels safer to you, sort of fading from your mind once more until the giant bursts back into focus and chases you again. You go back to your safe space, up the escalator, only to be shown that even that cannot stop the giant.
It’s a brilliant form of subtle horror, building up layers of safety and comfort only to break those down with a seemingly unstoppable force coming after you. It’s also crazy to me how the giant doesn’t necessarily even attack Wyatt and yet somehow he manages to fall to his demise (or not because of the newest video 😂) it’s as if the pure terror of the past itself was enough to drive someone to their imminent doom. A truly inescapable creature, one that doesn’t necessarily kill you by catching you, but driving you to such depths that you end up creating your own death.
god yes, I finally noticed that with the stairs... when the giant managed to go above them I was like: NO, you're NOT supposed to do that, stop!!! xD
In my opinion the part where the giant escapes into the normal world, resembles how kayne brings back this two times forgoten information into the world / how it spreds more and more with every person that watches his videos. Every person that watches the video „moves it“ by simply obtaining knowledge about it and therefore „spreads / moves“ the giant farther in our world.
Pause at 17:38 the resemblance factor between Wendi and the giant is priceless. I think the giant scares @wendigoon because it looks likes him, probably gives him a Mandella catalog vibe.
I knew I couldn't be the only one that thought they look the same!
ayy Im like hey whats up hello
@@ijneb1248 first thing i thought when i saw that timestamp
I was born and raised in Dallas and would frequently visit the Valley View Mall during middle and high school. There was always a feeling of unnerving dread when I was there because I was legitmately creeped out by the "Rolling Giant". I was shocked and amazed when a friend showed me Kane's video. He perfectly represented how I felt being in that Mall in its later years and being scared of the RG. The Mall has since been torn down (at long last) and Kane immortalized it and I am incredibly thankful for that.
It's super nice to see that normal people out there have such great ideas and brilliant ways of telling their stories, no big budgets, no producers putting pressure on them, just people with great ideas
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I definitely relate to the message of this story. I went to a small high school that had been around since the late ‘60s. Not too long after I graduated, all the buildings of the school were destroyed in a flash flood and had to be completely leveled. I came back a few months after that and looking at an empty field that once held the buildings that I lived my transformative teenage years in was such an uncanny feeling. Like, all those hours spent and memories firmed could never be physically revisited by anyone who went to the school in the past. It only exists in our collective memory, and even that will fade away eventually.
Last time I was this early, iceberg boy was still called wendigoon
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I saw someone else who covered this series point out that when Wyatt asks 'what do you want?' to the giant, you can see it turn towards where the emergency exit is as the mall flashes to reveal the corpses of the people and the horse. To me this shows that the mall and the giant are two separate entities that have different goals. We see through the series that the mall moves through time along Wyatt, changing as long as he is alive. I believe the mall wants Wyatt to die so that he stops forcefully moving the mall forward in time, causing the destruction and takeover of it. To preserve it's memory. While the giant just wants Wyatt to leave. Sort of the same motivation, but important to note they are separate beings.
Side note, as Wyatt is walking over the beams to get to the emergency exit, you can see his dead body on the floor in roughly the place it would be when he falls off to his death. Not too sure what this is supposed to signify, but thought I'd put it out there. You can find it around the 26:45 mark.
You can find it on the first beam. It lasts for a couple of frames and they are relatively clear so you don’t have to go looking through pixels.
Love the video
Quantum Superposition
Edit: Found it, it was just so small i mistook it for branches of one of the trees and was looking at the larger dark object thinking it was that. What an amazing catch
Is it the first or the second beam? Dunno if its cause im watching at a slower speed to get a proper look but everything looks too blurry to make out a body yet so wondering if im missing something.
I told my friend “haha wendigoon is afraid of the statue from the oldest view” and their only response was “I don’t know why it’s literally just him” and… can we talk about how it does kinda look like him.
If Wendigoon grows his beard out to the same length as Riverchon's, as well as his hair, he'll be twinning with the Giant for sure.
@@lmahu6627 His arms are too short.
I always thought wendigoon had a strong resemblance to the giant
Kane’s reaction to Wendigoon jumping out of his skin being “I won” was just perfect.
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said-“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
-Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley.
Two great works of art that evoke the same feelings, for me at least.
Vastly underrated comment
absolutely agree
as always Ozymandius can be linked to almost everything
god i read that first line and immediately knew the poem. fuck you gcse english
Not to hop up on the soap box but this is why making art is so important. It doesn’t matter if it’s not a masterpiece, what matters is the record of your life’s experience that’s left behind.
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This is why I think the most common thing u see spray painted in (insert name) was here. It’s an attempt to let people know of ur existence.,the primal need to be remembered.
@@DaddiDrakoYou aren't remembered. What's remembered is that some idiot sprayed tasteless graffiti on that historical building and now someone has to paint over it.
@@MrCmon113 u completely missed my point I’m not saying it’s successful but hand someone a can of spray paint in an abandoned building 9/10 times they will write (name) was here. It’s a primal need to be remembered. Or a fear of being completely forgotten. Or just a need to let people know u existed
"How much have we forgotten?" Is a question that causes me so much anxiety. We exist inside an infinitely dark room, and it's terrifying.
Like, I can't even wrap my head around how much we don't know about the earliest humans and humanity. It completely blows my mind and stresses me out to not know.
Do yall even know what terrifying means? Calm down lmao
@tony_dogs Different things scare different people.
@@tony_dogs
People do abuse these phrases lmao
There is an awesome video of Vsauce, were he talks about death: "One dies twice, the first time when your body dies, and then when your name is remembered for the last time".
It’s Mr. The Oldest Hugs here to make Iceberg Boy into an Iceberg Man
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He has kind eyes
"Eww, I don't like any of the implications of that sentence!"
- Iceberg Boi
What the fuck?? 😂
whoaA
The giant just cruising down the roads put a smile on my face for some reason.
he seein da sights, seein da world!
*COWS!!!*
i feel like the horror of The Oldest View works well because it’s similar to the horror of the first few seasons of The Magnus Archives in that the horrors just kinda happen to random people on a random day instead of at a moment of great change (like the death of a loved one or moving house)
like, wyatt is just a guy going about his day when he finds the staircase - nothing happens to make him find it he just *finds it*
I would literally combust of joy if Wendi would ever give TMA a chance. I just know he’d love it :,)
yessss, i love the magnus archives more than anything
As an art major who never got to finish their degree because my chronic illness, which has detrimentally affected my formerly sharp memory, made it impossible to keep attending, this actually has me in tears. I was born right before the switch over from analog to digital. I was born into one world full of information, but with all that beautiful knowledge so hard to access, then thrust throughout the course of my childhood into a new one of a digital age and a global connection. The meaning here behind this work is something I feel so deeply. We're in such a strange age, and age of copy and paste, control Z, and delete where things are deeply impermanent, but yet... not. It's so easy to lose old knowledge, even on the internet, and archivists both professional and compulsively driven amateurs (I'm the latter) can feel such a desperation to save the things we love. What Kane has done here to save this art, to preserve it with a new work of art based on it.... it's beautiful.
“Thank you, iceberg boy.” We all say in unison
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Watch the video
“Do with that what you will” sounds like the most passive aggressive way to say “Put it in your pocket and shove off.”
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It reminds me of the quote from Aleister Crowley: "Do What Thou Wilt."
Are you British
@@p-__can you like shush?
@@mortesilenz2298a commandment of Satanism?
So glad Iceberg Boy finally became an Iceberg Man by giving Mr. The Oldest View a hug. He had such kind eyes