Lol I saw this right as he said they don't like me telling you where to aquire. Sportsman's is a sham and they treated us like real trash during covid and kept the transfers they denied when the state didn't answer in 3 days here in Oregon. I'm not giving them money unless I'm ready to tell everyone I really screwed up and left myself no options or time.
It won't, ARs are actually a really bad platform for shotguns. Get a traditional rifle-patterned shotgun instead of something built on an AR style frame.
Had my friends brothers sheer it’s receiver extension threads with 2 3/4 reduced recoil slugs after 200 rounds of birdshot, it’s now an amalgamated blob of aluminum at the bottom of their fire pit
They will ROCK AND ROLL! Auto sear tripping surface needs to be lengthened about a 1/4”, the bolt rides quite a bit higher in the upper than standard m4/m16. Needs a tinyyyy little bit shaved off the front of the bolt carrier to clear the sear as the bolt comes back. And then for the bolt I pinned a piece of shaft with a small arm sticking down off of it into the rear of the bolt carrier to trip the auto sear. Gun got registered on a form2 a couple years ago, got just a touch over 22-2300 rounds though it since then! Cycles great full auto with 2.75” buckshot and most 1300fps+ stuff, 3inch shells are kinda iffy, runs some hotter #7 and 8 birdshot on semi auto without the added weight of the sear tripping pin in the bolt carrier, but It LOVES Rio Royal 1345fps 2 3/4” #00 buckshot with the giggle switch on! I can send you pics and videos, I think there’s a few on my Insta ripping up a car door too
Who else uses Mark Serbu's videos to fall asleep with because his voice is so soothing? My sleep is all messed up because of medications I take and I have to nap during the day sometimes due to that, but Mark comes through for me every time. Every video is great and interesting and I love the content, and I love falling to sleep on them because it makes for some pleasant dreams of automatic weapons dancing through my head. In one of them, Royal Nonesuch was running toward Mark and me across a large green field in slow motion, carrying something of a strange shape and yelling out, "I made a machine gun out of mechanical babies...!" I really liked that one.
Same here. Accordin' to ads it can load 3" cartridge shells, but how does it perform? Hmmm... It would look cool with an optic and a hush can at the end of the barrel :D@@ryanjones4917
Saiga 12 did the same wrecking of the hull...when it threw the hulls 15ft away...... You needed a lot of pressure in a Ponsness Warren reloader to get that hull base reformed... and that only worked with brass bases of course. The red dot sight (even a cheap one) was a lot of fun with the Saiga when shooting clays. Learner shooters understood immediately to fire when the red dot was on the clay....and the clay was rising in a straight line away from the shooter. Couldn't miss....... and that instilled confidence.. and kept their mind off "the fearsome 12g recoil"....
Man, this is so neat. I LOVE when you just go "Hey, folks, look at this neat thing!" For the price they're asking - same as a used police trade-in in some places - I'm not sure I want to carry it into battle against the Cardboard Army in serious maneuvers, but I bet it's a REALLY fun range toy.
Police trade ins are almost always barely shot. Most police only shoot their required qualifications which is 100 rounds a year or sometimes every 6 months. That's not much even over a lifetime of policing.
I just hate giving them money to gear up against us. Same with 511, even though I hear they make sure the workers are treated nice over in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese and Chinese people, but man their govs just don't like em as much as I do and I don't wanna help them out.
@@danielescobar7618 I showed my Vietnamese mate here in Australia your comment. He said "this guy is mentally ill" and "he lives in a 80s movie version of the world" Just thought I'd share. ;)
@@danielescobar7618 The Vietnamese government is not that bad compared to the CCP. They are not a threat and I don't think they're on very friendly terms with the Chinese government. I'm not saying the Vietnamese government is good because they're not, they're just not super bad like the CCP.
I work at my LGS, and we sold a bunch of the JTS M12AK versions (obviously by the name this is the copy of a saiga/AK) and everyone that bought one loved it. And they seem to be built very well. Interesting to see how well built the AR version is, I thought about scooping up one of the ones from PSA.
Mine won't cycle, even with 3" slugs, and the front sight post screw in part isn't straight. Started to contact them about replacement and after the first email they stopped responding to me. Probably won't buy anything else from them ever
Hey Mark you were wondering about the spring in the buffer, look at KAK Industries' new ar buffer and the info behind it on their website. Very interesting ideas about recoil mitigation and vibration dampening.
I was curious about these, but don't have a good place to be able to enjoy a shotgun like this, that and I'm fortunate enough to have a Gen-12 and Vepr-12 already so I couldn't justify getting one. Thanks for sharing!
This Chongqing Jianshe Industry (Group) Co., Ltd (重庆建设工业（集团）有限公司）is a legit military equipment manufacturer owned by the People's Liberation Army. So if you buy it, you are literally funding China's military, yo.
They have already been paid by JTS to manufacture these, and JTS has already been paid by whatever chain store u buy this from. Same for just about every red dot made nowadays.
@@ericclone "They" already got their money, no matter if you buy one, or it sits on a shelf forever. The only point against that is that if there's no demand for them on the primary market and they all get sold to secondary dealers, the PRC won't likely authorize the manufacture of many more.
@@calanon534 You are not adding anything new. That is exactly my point, if no one buys them, do you think US retailers will continue to order batch after batch from China just so that they can sit on the shelves all over the country?
JTS also makes a 12 ga AK. From all reviews I've seen, they're pretty good for the price. They don't hardly jam, especially after about 70 or 80 rounds. Fun to shoot. I'm assuming the AR will be about the same.
@@NicholasA231 its not like we washingtonians can just go across the border and get one. the ffl process means that its impossible for us to get cool stuff like this.
9:26 They're balloon head bases too, like the oldest cartridges. No machining, it's all formed sheet. I'd be worried about ripping the rims off if the gas was too hot or the dwell time wasn't there.
I'd like to know what the metal quality is like of the critical components. I got the AK version for $250 and it ran great. Front trunnion looks cast though so doesn't inspire confidence for longevity. I would love to hear from anyone with a high round count through it.
Cousin Louie has a bunch that fell off the back of a container ship? I dunno - maybe because it's a shotgun, they let it through without realizing it's a "scary looking hyper-assault shotgun of megadeath."
Hi Mark! Thank you for doing a review on this shotgun. Please do more! I love how you, as a designer and fabricator, analyze the firearm overall and go into the operational mechanics of it. -God bless
Serbu, what happens when you fire a 223/5.56 down a smooth bore barrel? It's not a rifle, nor a pistol? Cheaper to produce? Legal in more jurisdictions?
I strongly dislike the AR but I bought one of these at Rural King two years ago for $250 after taxes. It seemed to chew itself up inside at first but runs great now. I’ve had the Ak version for years.
Given the strong family resemblance, I wonder if they've tried to import a .410 upper on a plain old 15 lower and what excuse was/would be given to stop it.
Saw these on sale before Xmas, and it took all the willpower that I possessed not to grab one for the price they were advertised at, even though I think I may have brought my shotgun out one time last year to shoot a couple rounds of skeet, then put it back in the safe. Would be a nice shotgun to have sitting next to my recliner, to compliment the Glock 17 I have in the armrest! Always wondered about how well they would function at that price.
Do you know if the mag release is exactly the same as a regular AR-15? Asking cause unfortunately I live in NY and if I were to purchase this I would have to switch out the mag release for a locking mag release that makes the mag “permanent”
I built a 10" SBS off one of these with a collapsible stock. I trimmed a standard buffer and spring down to make it work but I can't get it to run with anything but buckshot.
I have some insight on how they do it cheap. For industrial products, oil & gas, equipment they Government pays the manufacturing company in China via tax incentives or cash per order shipped. Essentially to flood the market to deter foreign manufacturing so they have a monopoly. Then slowly they increase the price
I just wanted to give an update on my previous post. I actually purchased one of these and got it today, I tore it all the way down and put it back together. From that inspection I found none of the previous issues with sharp edges that cut up the hulls of the shot shells to be present, so they have fixed those issues. I then went and shot it... It absolutely jams on nearly every shot IF you use bird loads, on the other hand 00 buck shot ran without any problems, so the buffer spring is way overpowered, and this is not you gun if you are looking for a birding shotgun. I am looking to see if I can find a lighter spring that will work for bird loads to train and plink with. The only true problem I had with the gun is that the U shaped reinforcement lips that are on the two provided magazines are over sized, and caused one of them to jam in the gun... The first one I just had to remove the phosphate finish to get it to work properly, the second one I had to file quite a bit to get it to work. Neither of them will drop from the gun but have to be pulled out, but it is now easy to pull them out. So, if you are hoping to get a semi-auto Benelli level shotgun for $220, you will be sadly disappointed, but if you accept that you are getting a Chinese made piece of equipment that will take maybe 20 minutes worth of work to get it to run quite well, then this is the gun for you. Thank you Mr. Serbu for your advice on this gun, well worth the purchase for me. As a side note, yes I am a trained gun smith, so even if it would have had bigger issues I could have gotten the gun to run eventually.
I believe that spring in the buffer is a dampener for if/when it bottoms out in the buffer tube. Maybe it’s there to limit damage if someone shoots a hot load when the gas port is all the way open. I’d be concerned if it was bottoming consistently though. If it’s slamming into the back of the buffer tube, it could tear the threads out or break the end of the tube.
Did you have to clean a bunch of cosmolene out of the gas port before running it? I know the AK version needs it before firing or it gums up the gas port real bad. Making the gun a pain to cycle.
Wonder if we could get one of those in California if the seller would configure it as featureless first. Throw a stupid fin grip on it, and a fixed stock. Charge an extra $50 for the convenience. Boom
I’m surprised they didn’t just copy the system that benelli use, I’m also always shocked at how cheap China can do things in metal yes there labour is cheaper however sending heavy things half way around the world for so much cheaper in my head the maths make no sense there government must be subsidising a lot of there stuff
Thanks or this video. I'm considering buying one of these but I can't find any spare parts anywhere. Do you know where spare parts can be found. I'm not even finding them at the JTS website.
I modified mine to take a nornal ar 16 buffer tube and i cut fown the barrel to like 12.5 inches and sbsed it. Runes slugs and buck fine but bird shot almost functions
i got the ak t12 and its a piece of garbage, the 10 round magazines fall out every shot. doesnt cycle bird shot on even the lowest gas setting. I guess its fun when your shooting slugs and use the original magazine but thats no fun
I have to say I love this gun. I bought a Chinese AK rifle in 1999 and still have it and it's never had a malfunction. They are capable of making good reliable firearms in China. This company also has several AK versions of this shotgun. I wish more American companies did things like this. I saw a lot of innovative things on this. I would trust it for home defense after running a few boxes through it. The website does say that it shoots both 2-3/4 in and 3 in shotgun shells. They also have a 10 round magazine for this.
Norinco is the only reputable Chinese brand left. I can't speak on this particular model but I have had several jts ak-t1's and they have all disassembled their gas system permanently before I got 100 rounds through any of them.
Go to the nearest fast food joint, pull the bag out of the refuse can, dump it out, spray it with your garden hose, collect it on a baking tray, and heat it to 175 degrees in a pre heated oven. This thing is hot wet garbage.
I had an older one that I liked but traded it for a saiga clone that was a lot nicer and it used all saiga and AK parts... Just can't remember the importers name...
That is pretty sweet I'd buy one if the price was right. I'm wondering what the weight is on it i was all into the bullpups until i got one way too heavy and too complicated to break down at least the one i had.
Sportsman’s warehouse has these for $650 and palmetto has them for $199 😂
Sportsman's warehouse is cheaper than dirt jr.
Lol I saw this right as he said they don't like me telling you where to aquire. Sportsman's is a sham and they treated us like real trash during covid and kept the transfers they denied when the state didn't answer in 3 days here in Oregon. I'm not giving them money unless I'm ready to tell everyone I really screwed up and left myself no options or time.
Sportsman's warehouse is a scam 😂
Sportmans Warehouse used to be reasonably priced a few years ago. Then their prices went way up.
Sportsman’s Warehouse, Walmart shit for premium prices.
Just ordered one from PSA prior to seeing this video. It was too cheap to pass up. Good to see a professional opinion of it.
$200 has me laughing hard over here I didn’t believe it
I love how you engineer the s’ht out of stuff and yet holding your phone and fingering this gun is kicking your ass. 😂
Nothing but love brother.
it's not like he can engineer an extra arm on himself
@@cagneybillingsley2165
Not with that attitude
I would love to see how this thing performs with an auto sear in it.
Pretty well, theres videos
I'd rather see it with a Super Safety so that all of us have a chance at some fun.
It won't, ARs are actually a really bad platform for shotguns. Get a traditional rifle-patterned shotgun instead of something built on an AR style frame.
@@Wolfsbane1100why? Feeding?
@@Wolfsbane1100there is a video of the same model with a lightning link ripping through 10rd mags with ease
But will it survive James' 500 round test?
(...probably not...)
Impossibru
Had my friends brothers sheer it’s receiver extension threads with 2 3/4 reduced recoil slugs after 200 rounds of birdshot, it’s now an amalgamated blob of aluminum at the bottom of their fire pit
So how did the warranty work out for you?
@@awesomeopossum4632
@@awesomeopossum4632bummer but funny. I. An picture the setting and look on his face as he tossed it in the fire.
Gotta get a burn down going.
They will ROCK AND ROLL! Auto sear tripping surface needs to be lengthened about a 1/4”, the bolt rides quite a bit higher in the upper than standard m4/m16. Needs a tinyyyy little bit shaved off the front of the bolt carrier to clear the sear as the bolt comes back. And then for the bolt I pinned a piece of shaft with a small arm sticking down off of it into the rear of the bolt carrier to trip the auto sear. Gun got registered on a form2 a couple years ago, got just a touch over 22-2300 rounds though it since then! Cycles great full auto with 2.75” buckshot and most 1300fps+ stuff, 3inch shells are kinda iffy, runs some hotter #7 and 8 birdshot on semi auto without the added weight of the sear tripping pin in the bolt carrier, but It LOVES Rio Royal 1345fps 2 3/4” #00 buckshot with the giggle switch on! I can send you pics and videos, I think there’s a few on my Insta ripping up a car door too
Who else uses Mark Serbu's videos to fall asleep with because his voice is so soothing?
My sleep is all messed up because of medications I take and I have to nap during the day sometimes due to that, but Mark comes through for me every time.
Every video is great and interesting and I love the content, and I love falling to sleep on them because it makes for some pleasant dreams of automatic weapons dancing through my head.
In one of them, Royal Nonesuch was running toward Mark and me across a large green field in slow motion, carrying something of a strange shape and yelling out, "I made a machine gun out of mechanical babies...!"
I really liked that one.
Still not as much fun as a Korean Daewoo USAS12 on fun mode
Oscar and I just bought this shotgun because of your video lol. I ran 100 rounds of Walmart low brass with Zero malfunctions today
You're just the guy who can help the community of owners out there who are wondering how to make this gun cycle field loads reliably.
Hey, Mark, can you do a follow-up video of you firin' this beast with flight-control buckshot and slugs?
I was wondering how/if it would handle magnum loads.
Same here. Accordin' to ads it can load 3" cartridge shells, but how does it perform? Hmmm... It would look cool with an optic and a hush can at the end of the barrel :D@@ryanjones4917
Saiga 12 did the same wrecking of the hull...when it threw the hulls 15ft away......
You needed a lot of pressure in a Ponsness Warren reloader to get that hull base reformed...
and that only worked with brass bases of course.
The red dot sight (even a cheap one) was a lot of fun with the Saiga when shooting clays.
Learner shooters understood immediately to fire when the red dot was on the clay....and the clay was rising in a straight line away from the shooter.
Couldn't miss.......
and that instilled confidence..
and kept their mind off "the fearsome 12g recoil"....
Can you make it full auto please? Always was interested how fast an AR type of shotgun would be in full auto.
Speed area lead dispenser 2000
Man, this is so neat. I LOVE when you just go "Hey, folks, look at this neat thing!" For the price they're asking - same as a used police trade-in in some places - I'm not sure I want to carry it into battle against the Cardboard Army in serious maneuvers, but I bet it's a REALLY fun range toy.
Police trade ins are almost always barely shot. Most police only shoot their required qualifications which is 100 rounds a year or sometimes every 6 months. That's not much even over a lifetime of policing.
Holy crap, you're not kidding it's cheap... I need one now.
the age old saying of "you get what you pay for"...
@@Just_A_Random_Desk Of course you do, its on clearance from over $600 because a new model is out.
They are selling for $199 at PSA
600 is retail
Its garbage lol why do people buy shit like this without doing a smidge of research
@@sheepocalypse3898We just did by watching this video?! 😂
Great video Mark. And like yourself. Not everything from China is junk.
I just hate giving them money to gear up against us. Same with 511, even though I hear they make sure the workers are treated nice over in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese and Chinese people, but man their govs just don't like em as much as I do and I don't wanna help them out.
@@danielescobar7618 I showed my Vietnamese mate here in Australia your comment. He said "this guy is mentally ill" and "he lives in a 80s movie version of the world" Just thought I'd share. ;)
So communism doesn't exist? Sounds like your mate might have been brainwashed bro@@stevedevice1866
@@danielescobar7618 The Vietnamese government is not that bad compared to the CCP. They are not a threat and I don't think they're on very friendly terms with the Chinese government. I'm not saying the Vietnamese government is good because they're not, they're just not super bad like the CCP.
I work at my LGS, and we sold a bunch of the JTS M12AK versions (obviously by the name this is the copy of a saiga/AK) and everyone that bought one loved it. And they seem to be built very well. Interesting to see how well built the AR version is, I thought about scooping up one of the ones from PSA.
Those have a 3rd pin hole.
I call it my chicom trash blaster
@@RobertMurry-s5o Well shit !!! Now the ATF knows.
I bought one and love it.
They say you should clean it really well before you use it, but mine was spotless, so it didn't need it. Lol
Mine won't cycle, even with 3" slugs, and the front sight post screw in part isn't straight. Started to contact them about replacement and after the first email they stopped responding to me. Probably won't buy anything else from them ever
How’d that get imported from China?
The import ban doesn't cover shotguns.
Hey Mark you were wondering about the spring in the buffer, look at KAK Industries' new ar buffer and the info behind it on their website. Very interesting ideas about recoil mitigation and vibration dampening.
I was curious about these, but don't have a good place to be able to enjoy a shotgun like this, that and I'm fortunate enough to have a Gen-12 and Vepr-12 already so I couldn't justify getting one. Thanks for sharing!
Couldn't justify? It's a gun. Justification complete! Achievement unlocked!
@@dennisveazey4469😂
Can’t be worried about details when the only distinguishing name on it is Qongjiong. Probably came from the same place the gutter oil came from! 😂
There actually are serrations on the bolt... I guess that forward assist isn't just for looks?🤔
Can confirm, it works
It's there so you can make your jams worse just like on an AR
@@InsanePacoTacolmao, they don't know until they know. Can't stomp on it like an ak.
Can you give it a fun switch? Might be handy if you were in Ukraine looking to protect yourself from drones.
I wonder what the Rockwell hardness is of the bolt and bolt carrier.
If you would check that because I am curious as to how hard the metal is.
It's not hardened.
I bought the ak version. It was $250. Its the most fun ive had on the range in a while. Lol
This Chongqing Jianshe Industry (Group) Co., Ltd (重庆建设工业（集团）有限公司）is a legit military equipment manufacturer owned by the People's Liberation Army. So if you buy it, you are literally funding China's military, yo.
They have already been paid by JTS to manufacture these, and JTS has already been paid by whatever chain store u buy this from. Same for just about every red dot made nowadays.
@@jonathan-6958 what is your point?
@@ericclone "They" already got their money, no matter if you buy one, or it sits on a shelf forever. The only point against that is that if there's no demand for them on the primary market and they all get sold to secondary dealers, the PRC won't likely authorize the manufacture of many more.
@@calanon534 You are not adding anything new. That is exactly my point, if no one buys them, do you think US retailers will continue to order batch after batch from China just so that they can sit on the shelves all over the country?
@@ericclone Man alive, who pissed in your Wheaties?
JTS also makes a 12 ga AK. From all reviews I've seen, they're pretty good for the price. They don't hardly jam, especially after about 70 or 80 rounds. Fun to shoot. I'm assuming the AR will be about the same.
Would be nice to have one. But feckin Jay Inslee just cant let anything be
You're not gonna let Jay and Bob stop you, are you?
@@NicholasA231 its not like we washingtonians can just go across the border and get one. the ffl process means that its impossible for us to get cool stuff like this.
@@crushingexistentialism
"Impossible"
9:26 They're balloon head bases too, like the oldest cartridges. No machining, it's all formed sheet. I'd be worried about ripping the rims off if the gas was too hot or the dwell time wasn't there.
This is on my WISH list. jk. Looks really cool for the price of a few Doll Hairs more.
I would have never considered buying one , but now it’s an option
I'd like to know what the metal quality is like of the critical components. I got the AK version for $250 and it ran great. Front trunnion looks cast though so doesn't inspire confidence for longevity. I would love to hear from anyone with a high round count through it.
Looks like those dents come from the base of the shell hitting the back of the ejection port.
If you can get it to run Lmaooo
How is that imported?
Cousin Louie has a bunch that fell off the back of a container ship? I dunno - maybe because it's a shotgun, they let it through without realizing it's a "scary looking hyper-assault shotgun of megadeath."
On the same ship your phone is imported.
The Chinese import ban doesn't cover shotguns.
Hi Mark!
Thank you for doing a review on this shotgun. Please do more! I love how you, as a designer and fabricator, analyze the firearm overall and go into the operational mechanics of it.
-God bless
i built a bunch of ar's back in 2016 for the same price. crazy how cheap some stuff can be
Didn’t expect this one! I have a PCP air rifle from JTS. The Airacuda
Thank you Mark for the review.
PSA has them for $199 as of 01-20-2024
Serbu, what happens when you fire a 223/5.56 down a smooth bore barrel?
It's not a rifle, nor a pistol?
Cheaper to produce? Legal in more jurisdictions?
Less legal
Really like these kinds of vids 🤍
Oh good video!!! I just impulse purchased one.
I strongly dislike the AR but I bought one of these at Rural King two years ago for $250 after taxes. It seemed to chew itself up inside at first but runs great now. I’ve had the Ak version for years.
Mark can you say if the mag release is standard compared to a normal AR in terms of dimensions?
Was eyeballing these the other day. I think I'll try and score one if I ever have any money 😂
Id like to onow if it could take ar10 uppers. Couple be a cheap way of getting an entry level large frame.
Pretty Cool video Bro I kinda like it !
I bought 3 from PSA 200.00 each. 2 grays 1 black. I was very impressed with the reliability. Even ate the bird shot on 3rd setting.
I bought one for $200 at PSA. I wasn't expecting much, but I ran through 3 boxes of vaious loads and only had 1 FTE on some old, low brass #8 shot.
Thanks dude..
Given the strong family resemblance, I wonder if they've tried to import a .410 upper on a plain old 15 lower and what excuse was/would be given to stop it.
Saw these on sale before Xmas, and it took all the willpower that I possessed not to grab one for the price they were advertised at, even though I think I may have brought my shotgun out one time last year to shoot a couple rounds of skeet, then put it back in the safe. Would be a nice shotgun to have sitting next to my recliner, to compliment the Glock 17 I have in the armrest! Always wondered about how well they would function at that price.
Do you know if the mag release is exactly the same as a regular AR-15? Asking cause unfortunately I live in NY and if I were to purchase this I would have to switch out the mag release for a locking mag release that makes the mag “permanent”
If this company could import rifles there would be $250 AR10 rifles on the shelf
I mean a 12g fits in a ar magwell, probably only need to make it a little bigger
I built a 10" SBS off one of these with a collapsible stock. I trimmed a standard buffer and spring down to make it work but I can't get it to run with anything but buckshot.
Oh great, Gun Nut says its 1/2 way decent, suddenly they sell out. Sporting clays at Fish Hawk or Tampa Bay Sporting Clays?
Well... When you don't have to pay your labor force.... And you can harvest them for extra $$ ofc your stuff's gonna be cheap.
Can you check compatibility with other parts? Ie handguard and the lower and trigger packs?
I’ve had mine for about 3yrs and I love. Take it apart clean it really good and lube it. Shoots everything
I have some insight on how they do it cheap. For industrial products, oil & gas, equipment they Government pays the manufacturing company in China via tax incentives or cash per order shipped. Essentially to flood the market to deter foreign manufacturing so they have a monopoly. Then slowly they increase the price
I saw the thumbnail and read "M27 IAR" and was so confused because the gun looks nothing like an M27.
Great to hear from you again Mark. You're always bringing out great stuff. Thanks.
me over here in bullpup camp.
I just wanted to give an update on my previous post. I actually purchased one of these and got it today, I tore it all the way down and put it back together. From that inspection I found none of the previous issues with sharp edges that cut up the hulls of the shot shells to be present, so they have fixed those issues. I then went and shot it... It absolutely jams on nearly every shot IF you use bird loads, on the other hand 00 buck shot ran without any problems, so the buffer spring is way overpowered, and this is not you gun if you are looking for a birding shotgun. I am looking to see if I can find a lighter spring that will work for bird loads to train and plink with.
The only true problem I had with the gun is that the U shaped reinforcement lips that are on the two provided magazines are over sized, and caused one of them to jam in the gun... The first one I just had to remove the phosphate finish to get it to work properly, the second one I had to file quite a bit to get it to work. Neither of them will drop from the gun but have to be pulled out, but it is now easy to pull them out.
So, if you are hoping to get a semi-auto Benelli level shotgun for $220, you will be sadly disappointed, but if you accept that you are getting a Chinese made piece of equipment that will take maybe 20 minutes worth of work to get it to run quite well, then this is the gun for you.
Thank you Mr. Serbu for your advice on this gun, well worth the purchase for me. As a side note, yes I am a trained gun smith, so even if it would have had bigger issues I could have gotten the gun to run eventually.
Great stuff Mark very cool! Would love to see how it handels some high brass! Have you made any shotguns?
China? Naaah I'll pass
200 DOLLARS? I need one!
It looks similiar to the Daiwoo USAS 12 semi auto shotgun whitch is classified as an NFA DD.
And interesting project would be changing the bolt and barrel and converting it into a rifle,
Wonder if that would be possible.
I believe that spring in the buffer is a dampener for if/when it bottoms out in the buffer tube. Maybe it’s there to limit damage if someone shoots a hot load when the gas port is all the way open. I’d be concerned if it was bottoming consistently though. If it’s slamming into the back of the buffer tube, it could tear the threads out or break the end of the tube.
Did you have to clean a bunch of cosmolene out of the gas port before running it? I know the AK version needs it before firing or it gums up the gas port real bad. Making the gun a pain to cycle.
Wonder if we could get one of those in California if the seller would configure it as featureless first. Throw a stupid fin grip on it, and a fixed stock. Charge an extra $50 for the convenience. Boom
That thing would be obnoxiously loud when shooting clays I would imagine...
I wonder how many of the parts can be exchanged for American AR-10 and AR-15 components?
Imagine this with a double stacked mag 🎉
Red dots for clays is atrocious. Don't do it. You'll have to squeeze off at the apex or you will lose your lead/swing. It's not a good time.
I’m surprised they didn’t just copy the system that benelli use, I’m also always shocked at how cheap China can do things in metal yes there labour is cheaper however sending heavy things half way around the world for so much cheaper in my head the maths make no sense there government must be subsidising a lot of there stuff
I neeeed to see this rockin and rollin!
Is the buffer tube a normal ar10/ar15 length ?
I thought Chinese guns were banned from import into the U.S.? How are these so freaking cheap!
Thanks or this video. I'm considering buying one of these but I can't find any spare parts anywhere. Do you know where spare parts can be found. I'm not even finding them at the JTS website.
I modified mine to take a nornal ar 16 buffer tube and i cut fown the barrel to like 12.5 inches and sbsed it. Runes slugs and buck fine but bird shot almost functions
i got the ak t12 and its a piece of garbage, the 10 round magazines fall out every shot. doesnt cycle bird shot on even the lowest gas setting. I guess its fun when your shooting slugs and use the original magazine but thats no fun
I have to say I love this gun. I bought a Chinese AK rifle in 1999 and still have it and it's never had a malfunction. They are capable of making good reliable firearms in China. This company also has several AK versions of this shotgun. I wish more American companies did things like this. I saw a lot of innovative things on this. I would trust it for home defense after running a few boxes through it. The website does say that it shoots both 2-3/4 in and 3 in shotgun shells. They also have a 10 round magazine for this.
Norinco is the only reputable Chinese brand left. I can't speak on this particular model but I have had several jts ak-t1's and they have all disassembled their gas system permanently before I got 100 rounds through any of them.
@@calebconnors847 Polytech has always been good but I don't know what they are producing now.
I'll let you know if that's true for mine, just ordered one. I've definitely wasted 200$ on dumber sheit@@calebconnors847
Go to the nearest fast food joint, pull the bag out of the refuse can, dump it out, spray it with your garden hose, collect it on a baking tray, and heat it to 175 degrees in a pre heated oven. This thing is hot wet garbage.
I will never buy an ar shotgun because it will jam after every shot, I think benelli M4 is the best choice.
I just got one, before I even saw this. Once again TH-cam isn't notifying me of new videos
I had an older one that I liked but traded it for a saiga clone that was a lot nicer and it used all saiga and AK parts... Just can't remember the importers name...
Got mine for $229 at PSA, so far it has run fine with high brass rounds.
That is pretty sweet I'd buy one if the price was right. I'm wondering what the weight is on it i was all into the bullpups until i got one way too heavy and too complicated to break down at least the one i had.
PSA has them for $199.
I'm not a shotgun guy, but I'd own one of these if I didn't live in WA!! Looks awesome.
I’m not an AR guy but but this anyway for the same reason.
Mine is fun as all get out with a 10 round mag....never had any issues that wasn’t my fault.
I can’t believe you paid for this in dog barks.
Ill buy one now that you have gone thru one somewhat, and are impressed, china does make some cool sh>t
Im relatively sure those uppers work on AR10 lowers.
I have the AK version and have never had a problem. I think it's a awesome weapon.
I wasn’t even aware we could have Chinese firearms. Goes to show what I know.
Mark if you make an improved version. People will buy it.
Was going to get one from palmetto but it's chines I think I'll buy something else