Defeat of King Darius III - The Fall of Persia to Alexander the Great

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  • @Nimno74
    @Nimno74 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The contributions of Phillip can not be overstated. The military, and it's infrastructure and training, that he inherited, was a huge part of his success.

    • @MrBubblecake
      @MrBubblecake 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure Phillip built the system, but I don’t think things would have played out the same had he remained in charge
      Alexander was the perfect leader at that time, he wasn’t just fearless and ambitious, he had something most great leaders didn’t, he was young and in his prime. Which made him a true “warrior king” in his prime, rather than a typical old king whose best days were already behind him. The men grew up fighting with him, and seems they would have followed him till the ends of the earth if he demanded it. They probably saw him being king for their lives and their children’s lives given his youth. So that’s another reason they bought in so hard, he wasn’t just another king to be replaced in a couple decades at most. Then you throw in the whole half god thing (which was likely a smart political move Alexander thought of at Siwa) he truly was the perfect leader for that time and he fought on the frontlines with his men throughout the whole campaign, I doubt Phillip would have been healthy enough to do the same.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Alexander truly deserved his title of "the Great"

    • @SomeGuy5555
      @SomeGuy5555 ปีที่แล้ว

      For what?
      Destroying a empire that was more civilized than most of countries today?
      Or burning a beautiful structure and killing people?
      If this is what make Alexander deserved title "the great" then the western world is a complete garbage

    • @middleeastrenwarriormen1017
      @middleeastrenwarriormen1017 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brutaly Conqueror

    • @bassmaster4205
      @bassmaster4205 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SomeGuy5555have you built one of the largest empires ever? Oh then maybe you shouldn’t be calling other that have “not great”

    • @SomeGuy5555
      @SomeGuy5555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bassmaster4205 no i haven't but my ancestors did

    • @bassmaster4205
      @bassmaster4205 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SomeGuy5555 don’t take credit for others sacrifice or accomplishments they aren’t your scares to bare

  • @justinjenkins2682
    @justinjenkins2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Great job to the editor, I liked seeing the layout of the troops while you described the battle, makes it easier to visualize 👍

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Your ancestors came to Macedonia and THE REST OF HELLAS (Greece) and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed LEADER OF THE GREEKS, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
    Alexander the Great
    Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian; translated as Anabasis of Alexander by P. A. Brunt, for the "Loeb Edition" Book II 14, 4

    • @TheColombiano89
      @TheColombiano89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Greeks launched the Ionian revolt which is why the Persians attacked.... also Macedonia was a Persian province at this time.

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian ปีที่แล้ว

      "Nah, we'll kick your ass as always"
      - The Persians.

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saeedvazirian Only they didn't.. But don't let this small detail destroy your narrative... lol

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@soniahemmati2372 The Peace of Callias is a peace treaty that was established around 449 BC between the Delian League (led by Athens) and the Achaemenid Empire and supposedly ended the Greco-Persian Wars. Alexander was born in 356 BC and launched his expedition around 20 years later. So, the last Greco-Persian war had definitely not happened "almost 200 years before Alexander's invasions". But even the peace of Callias would be only the first compromise treaty between Achaemenid Persia and a Greek city-state. Fighting between the Greeks and the Persians subsided after 450, but never totally drew to a close, as Persia famously continued to meddle in Greek affairs all the way up to Alexander the Great's lifetime...

    • @DeezzzzzzNuts12
      @DeezzzzzzNuts12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@saeedvazirianAlexander literally spanked the Persians

  • @andersjjensen
    @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for stepping up the game on graphical aids. A few maps and quick drawings goes a long way when explaining tactics!

  • @johnrose4572
    @johnrose4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Cletus the Black, the man who saved Alexander's life in his first major engagement, suffered quite the ironic fate. A conservative Macedonian nobleman, he began to fear that his king's massive conquests would lead to the dilution of traditional Macedonian culture (not to mention cementing the power of the monarch above that of the nobles, who had dominated the kingdom for generations). The two men began to clash with increasing frequency, until a final break occurred, which saw Alexander slay Cletus in a duel.

  • @mattcromwell4308
    @mattcromwell4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You showcased the coolest part of Alexander - the fact that he fought at the front of his armies. He didn't just command from safety like generals today, he was an inspiring leader to his men

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's a reason why generals stay behind today.
      Ww1.

    • @konradcurze939
      @konradcurze939 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@frankieseward8667 napolianic wars as well

    • @noahmcdarby5417
      @noahmcdarby5417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well for a military leader fighting at the front of the battle is about the stupidest thing you could possibly do. I think there was more of a personal element here as it seems Alexander always wanted to take the fight directly to the other general

    • @JohnWick-vb9pc
      @JohnWick-vb9pc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noahmcdarby5417 you’re a princess so your opinion doesn’t matter

    • @richardc861
      @richardc861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankieseward8667 true, cannon fodder

  • @joeyr7294
    @joeyr7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As always great quality content....well done Simon and Co. This channel is quickly moving up the list of my favorite Whistlerverse channels!

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    1:05 - Chapter 1 - The alliance
    3:05 - Chapter 2 - Battle of granicus
    8:05 - Chapter 3 - Battle of issus
    12:40 - Chapter 4 - Battle of gaugamela
    17:45 - Chapter 5 - Fall of persia
    - Chapter 6 -

    • @justinjenkins2682
      @justinjenkins2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, I can always count on you for the chapters on Simon's videos👍

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinjenkins2682 Not all heroes wear capes

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badluck5647 NO CAPES!

  • @noahmcdarby5417
    @noahmcdarby5417 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alexander the great seems like he was a man keen intuition more so than military prowess. Making split second second decisions to abandon conventional tactics and capitalizing on weak points in the enemy ranks. He was quite possibly the first man in history to say... "hold my beer"

    • @richardc861
      @richardc861 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I reckon his young age at the time also played a part in these high risk moves. If he had lived on, he may have grown more cautious with age

  • @randalpumpkin2788
    @randalpumpkin2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    😎best Iron Maiden song

    • @rickyal9810
      @rickyal9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely one of the best and I wouldn't know about Alexander without Maiden. If anyone hasn't heard it, go listen.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is truly astonishing that a tiny country like Macedon could annihilate the largest empire in history up to that point

  • @victoriamcfarlane1441
    @victoriamcfarlane1441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Posted 60 seconds ago with no views? idk if ive ever been this early to anything in my whole life

    • @wreckingopossum
      @wreckingopossum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1 view for me.
      Also never been this early

  • @leandrosalexsandrovich179
    @leandrosalexsandrovich179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alexander the Great by Iron Maiden is just casually playing in my head as I watch this

  • @hansmerker5611
    @hansmerker5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also suggest the siege of Fort William Henry.

  • @paulswabek173
    @paulswabek173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Alexander the great is one of my favorite ancient leaders.

  • @hansmerker5611
    @hansmerker5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suggest:
    The battle of Stirling
    The battle of Falkirk
    The Spartacus rebellion
    The battle of Cowpens
    The battle of Rorkes Drift

  • @armandotalampas4800
    @armandotalampas4800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder what would the ancient world would be like if Alexander the Great lived long enough to secure his vast empire? Imagine he sired enough sons he wouldn't lack any successors. Imagine, his dynasty would last for centuries and there's a single unified Greek empire that lasted for hundreds of years?

    • @Chris-hx3om
      @Chris-hx3om 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's said that the average Empire lasts around 2 and a half centuries then it dies, of decay from within...
      We are seeing that happen before our eyes now. How long ago did America become the 'greatest country on Earth'? and look at it now, rotten to the core, and the likes of China and India will rise up and defeat it, nothing surer.

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huge civil and internecine war between siblings like when Charlemagne died, probably.

    • @m.c.martin
      @m.c.martin ปีที่แล้ว

      The Roman Empire might have been even bigger 👀

  • @EmilyJelassi
    @EmilyJelassi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another excellent video. The pics of how the armies were set up helped me to get a better understanding. Great job Simon and team! 😊👏❤

  • @amandamorgan2683
    @amandamorgan2683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video. Can I mention tho, the volume levels in most of your channels is either low or undulates lately, a tad irritating 😠

  • @BillyRaines
    @BillyRaines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paying with my view with a like and comment

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    True fact, Alexander and the Macedonians were the first and last Europeans to conquer all of Persia proper.

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope. Noone conquered Persia proper.

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@saeedvazirian Alexander conquered all of Persia, you can read about it from his persian subjects.

    • @kingkashi5151
      @kingkashi5151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@saeedvazirianAlexander the Great conquered Persia proper and even after his death was ruled by the Seleucids who were ethnic Greeks. Go and study history.

    • @DeezzzzzzNuts12
      @DeezzzzzzNuts12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@saeedvazirianAlexander spanked the Persians and took their lands 😂😂😂

  • @jrssae
    @jrssae 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel has so many great topics

  • @nickrocker4452
    @nickrocker4452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best part of waking up is Warpgraphics in your cup.

  • @Rick-Rarick
    @Rick-Rarick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great timing, was just about to turn off the computer when I got the notification! Love your videos!

  • @CFG-eb3my
    @CFG-eb3my 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks - great job

  • @onlybeerat4271
    @onlybeerat4271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we get one on the Egyptians and the wars of Ramses II? Please and thank you fact boii

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you .
    🐺

  • @zch7491
    @zch7491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Darius is such a sweet name

  • @samburdge9948
    @samburdge9948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your beard will soon have its own zipcode

  • @pedroberrizbeitia8254
    @pedroberrizbeitia8254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simon, I crave Warographics content. I truly love all the content you make and my only regret is that new videos don't drop hourly. Having said that, I have a request, if you'll consider it.
    To provide context to the request, I'd like to say that I'm Venezuelan, and not only that, but I'm also (according to the vast records my family - Berrizbeitia Aristeguieta - has kept over the years) somehow descendent from Simon Bolivar's bloodline, albeit not directly because Bolivar never had children. That being said, and although I'm happy to be Venezuelan and cannot help but have some degree of ridiculous nationalistic pride, I know my ancestor was a piece of shit.
    I'm living in Colombia now, and I've heard a lot about Simon Bolivar's "liberation" campaigns through Colombia against the Spanish crown. I've heard many stories, some praising Bolivar and some damning him, but none have been as fascinating to me as what my friend from the department (or state) of Pasto says whenever he has a chance. The Venezuelan army's violent campaign through Pasto culminated in a reactionary uprising of a peasant militia as a response to the Black Christmas massacre my countrymen were responsible for. What's more, the uprising was ultimately successful.
    Pasto shares a border with Ecuador, and Bolivar's plan was to liberate Ecuador and Colombia from Spanish rule.
    The people of Pasto, loyalists to the Spanish crown, were having none of it.
    Bolivar's criollo army's liberation march through Colombia and their gratuitously violent campaign in Pasto is the stuff of legends here in Colombia and I think the topic would make for a great Warographics episode. There are many battles, many beligerent fronts, many officers and generals, and many, many violent and gruesome battles to cover, perhaps chiefly the Black Christmas massacre.
    I believe that a significant portion of the xenophobia and ethnic slurs my wife and I are subjected to as Venezuelans here in Colombia may be due to the old wounds caused by a man that all Venezuelans have been conditioned to idolize as a hero. That, and my relation to Bolivar, is why this topic is very dear to me.
    I think it could make for an epic Warographics episode. Though I know you covered Bolivar in Biographics, please consider expanding on these conflicts on this channel. Thanks, man.
    P.S.: I accidentally erased this whoke post about 3/4 of the way through, and that was painful... but I started it again because I would love to know more about the topic and, of course, hear your take on the whole thing. Thanks, Simon, for all the amazing content.

  • @noahmcdarby5417
    @noahmcdarby5417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *King Darius* "I think ima head out"

  • @Aemilius46
    @Aemilius46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Job!!!! 💯👏🔥👍
    Honestly I would have loved to see Alexander The Great up against Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus and Titus Quinctius Flamininus!! Could you imagine such an Epic clash?? (I'm aware they weren't in the same time period of the BC era)#GloryToRome #GloryToGreece

  • @booboolips6053
    @booboolips6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alexander takes Darius’s daughter, anyway. To the victor goes the spoils😁

  • @darkchocolate1083
    @darkchocolate1083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about one on the Invasion of Panama?

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which one?

    • @darkchocolate1083
      @darkchocolate1083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badluck5647 1989. I guess I should of said “Operation Just Cause” instead.

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darkchocolate1083 The one with the "nifty package"?

    • @darkchocolate1083
      @darkchocolate1083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pyromania1018 yep.

  • @doctorshell7118
    @doctorshell7118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Needs more maps for those of us who aren’t historians tho.

  • @FilippiniProductions
    @FilippiniProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can you cover the Charge of the Light Brigade in a later video?

  • @pedroberrizbeitia8254
    @pedroberrizbeitia8254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "... like a scared hamster, turned around and ran."
    Simon, I recent the insinuation that hamsters are cowardly. Shame!
    Nah, not really. Hamsters are great and all, but they're pussies.

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian ปีที่แล้ว

      the only cowards are you and him, lol

  • @joshuamills2136
    @joshuamills2136 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Megaproject : siege of tyre. 🙏

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video 📹

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's incredible how one man conquered the largest country in history up to that point

    • @sepehrniknam9069
      @sepehrniknam9069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One man🤣
      With 40000 troops

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sepehrniknam9069 still though, if they had a different leader, they might have ended up as a footnote in history

  • @Tahkaullus01
    @Tahkaullus01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darius: I'll let him have the High Ground. Nothing to worry about.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy Easter!

  • @tomdog5265
    @tomdog5265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sarissa's, not spears.

  • @pyromania1018
    @pyromania1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And then that daughter was murdered by Alexander's other wife, Roxanne, not long after his own death.

  • @kylewillis9732
    @kylewillis9732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fucking love this channel. I put it on while I do dishes.

  • @TheAmirata
    @TheAmirata 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the most disgraceful acts in history was the burning of Persepolis.

  • @jesseeheilbronn4958
    @jesseeheilbronn4958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love anyone spreading knowledge of ancient history but after listening to Dan Carlin I can't hear it pronounced anyway other than Makedonia

  • @femain1788
    @femain1788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This need a part 2 of Alexander’s conquest

  • @apangel100
    @apangel100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The estimates of troop losses two from these battles I would seriously take with a pinch of salt. We're not able to get accurate figures from the current Ukraine / Russia dispute so I'm hardly sure the numbers from 2300 years ago are gonna be right !

  • @phoenixsixxrising
    @phoenixsixxrising 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah yes, the Biga River, right up the road from the Smalla River! 😁

    • @andyyang3029
      @andyyang3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, running through the Talla Mountains

    • @Noah_E
      @Noah_E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live close enough to Middle River to hear kayakers talk to each other from my front porch.

  • @Skrajne_centrum
    @Skrajne_centrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant belive... One mode Chanel?

  • @y0k0b0ng0
    @y0k0b0ng0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Then the trail went cold when Darius changed his name to Hootie.

  • @ethanorange3705
    @ethanorange3705 ปีที่แล้ว

    I note the account of alexanders hand to hand combat in this battle matches the action of his troops as a whole (i.e., spear in face=charge into Persian centre, sword on back of helmet=Persian counterattack from rear. No doubt a legend of a general, but who knows what is real and not in accounts of alexander.

  • @jalenikezeue4114
    @jalenikezeue4114 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Darius The iii's Actions were So Appalled his Own Mother disown him And made Alexander Her New Son

  • @ehrldawg
    @ehrldawg ปีที่แล้ว

    Up next;Belleau Woods

  • @BaneofBots
    @BaneofBots ปีที่แล้ว

    Alexander is probably the only historical figure who deserves the epithet 'The Great.'

    • @bpsalami9864
      @bpsalami9864 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why not Cyrus?

  • @andyyang3029
    @andyyang3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Declined the offer and then married the daughter anyway? What a Chad 😂

  • @KW-qd1bi
    @KW-qd1bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do the soviet invasion of Afghanistan

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s just 2 days ago done one on here mate incase you missed it but see this comment

  • @BabyMakR
    @BabyMakR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I love ancient history?
    "Oh, and that daughter that Darius offered to him? Well, he married her anyway" after killing her father and untold thousand of countrymen.

    • @KingNoTail
      @KingNoTail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alexander didn't kill Darius.

  • @balrajkrishn8346
    @balrajkrishn8346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this documentary you convienently forgot that it were Greeks who incited rebellion and violence consistently for many years, due to which persians attacked Greeks in first place to teach them a good lesson.

  • @ahulaga8466
    @ahulaga8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a warographics video on Israel yet?

  • @broslicetim
    @broslicetim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all know the advantage of the high ground

  • @lonegamer6332
    @lonegamer6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sacred band of Thebes got wiped out by Macedonia. Apparently Phillip felt bad and honored them.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please visit Micahistory 2, it would mean a lot!

  • @philippvoid1800
    @philippvoid1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my son did well

  • @TheColombiano89
    @TheColombiano89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgot to mention that Macedonia was a Persian province and during the Greco-Persian Wars Macedonia was on the Persian side lol 😆

  • @TheIronChancellor
    @TheIronChancellor ปีที่แล้ว

    Alexander III 🇬🇷

  • @liamwilson12345
    @liamwilson12345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alexander was great

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never again would Persia 🇮🇷or Macedonia 🇲🇰be a known world super power to last for more than a century.
    Next would be Parthia, ruling from Iraq 🇮🇶
    Enjoy this battle the Steam game - Rome Total war - Alexander

    • @scottishcatdad993
      @scottishcatdad993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong flag! This is the Macedonian flag 🇬🇷

    • @EAcapuccino
      @EAcapuccino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottishcatdad993 No that is Greece! - 🇬🇷
      Alexander and his father Philip were in fact Macedonian 🇲🇰, NOT GREEK

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottishcatdad993 🤣🤣 nope that’s not correct mate that’s Greek

    • @shadowborn1456
      @shadowborn1456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Parthia was ruling from persia not Iraq smfh 🤦🏻‍♂️it was a iranian empire

  • @tomdog5265
    @tomdog5265 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scythed chariots

  • @kingchampion19
    @kingchampion19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darius III the Coward

  • @benquinneyiii7941
    @benquinneyiii7941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheating?

  • @alih6953
    @alih6953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alexander the Great is so overrrated
    -1) He was a drunk who murdered his best friend who saved him. "Pushed too far, Alexander killed Cleitus with a spear, a spontaneous act of violence that anguished him. Some historians believe Alexander killed his general in a fit of drunkenness-a persistent problem that plagued him through much of his life."
    -2) His empire was nowhere near the size of Mongols or even close to Rome. Look up their empire.
    -3) He would conqueror a lot but was not interested in Governing : "British historian Charles Freeman suggests that "In scope and extent his achievements [Cyrus] ranked far above that of the Macedonian king, Alexander, who was to demolish the [Achaemenid] empire in the 320s but fail to provide any stable alternative."[103] Cyrus has been a personal hero to many people, including Thomas Jefferson, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and David Ben-Gurion"

    • @alecbundy527
      @alecbundy527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1. Aside from killing Cleitus, when else did Alexander's intemperance interfere with his decisionmaking?
      2. Were Roman and Mongol empires created in under a decade?
      3. Admittedly, I am yet to read Freeman's work(s), though the one that's available on Amazon seems to be more or less an introductory material; was the quote from it? At any rate, if Alexander was not interested in governing, he would have end up being stuck somewhere in Central Asia, if not more closer to home. In fact, one can arge that he was as good a statesman as his father. Unfortunately, his administrative and diplomatic skills are rarely highlighted in popular literature, thus unawareness of the subject.

    • @alih6953
      @alih6953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alecbundy527 One thing is that he drank alcohol constantly like all the time and he would fool around with a different person every night. In fact he listened to a prostitutes to burn down Persepolis. He was not a good governor period. The quote comes from a Top British Professor. 2) Alexander committed atrocities he burned down Persepolis and killed everyone in it so his hands are not clean. He even pillaged the tomb of the dead Kings.
      3) Regarding the Mongolian Analogy they had a much more effective system where the person after Genghis Khan conquered a lot more. After Alexander's death, his empire quickly disintegrated split into 3 parts. Alexander could have created a more system for his successors but he did not.
      He is good but NOT the BEST

    • @alecbundy527
      @alecbundy527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alih6953 I was not remarking on whether or not Alexander was the best, merely pointing that his conquests lasted approximately a decade, whereas those by others significantly longer.
      No source even remotely states that he drank and slept with different partners EVERY night. In fact, aside the Cleitus incident, I struggle to recall where alcohol really caused him to act in a detrimental to his goals fashion. Surely, your reason for the looting, then burning of Persepolis cannot be taken at face value if the historical context is considered, the war with Agis just to name one. In all likelyhood, both events were carefully considered well in advance.
      As for the quote from top British professor, it means nothing without reasons provided. Freeman may think so, but it's poor understanding of the subject, with all due respect. Alexander was neither peace- nor war- but a conquest-time administrator and should be treated as such. The fact that his empire remained in an intact, albeit in a somewhat inertal state upon his return from India is a testament to this. His policies - starting from supporting oligarchies in Greece and democracies in AM to purging the satraps and institutioning his late decrees were aimed at centralization of all powers in his hands and enabling further conquests.

    • @alih6953
      @alih6953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alecbundy527 Okay we can agree then some say he WAS the BEST and that is not true but I get your point. Cause Cyrus the Great was a conqueror but humans right advocate read the bible he outlawed slavery so he is great also

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alecbundy527 nope. It literally never formed. Iran won.

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ☝️😄That was LITERALLY a picture of Darrius's face just after he was told of the first defeat of his forces. If it ISN'T, it should be! 😆👌

  • @yaqubleis6311
    @yaqubleis6311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greeks were vassal of Darius the Great and also Greeks destroyed one Iranian empire the Achaemenid Empire under one of the worst ruler in history of Iran but Iranians like Parthians and Scythians destroyed 3 Greek empires the Seleucid empire, Indo Greek and Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and Seleucid and Greco Bactrian Empires were among the biggest and most powerful Empires of there time both got destroyed by Mithridates I the Great of Parthian Empire and also Mithridates the Great the poison king of the Pontic empire who spoke 22 languages and Rome deadliest enemy was Persian origin IRANIC ORIGIN NOT GREEK descendants of the the greatest ruler and military commander in history CYRUS THE GREAT

  • @alih6953
    @alih6953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alexander the Great is so overrrated
    -1) He was a drunk who murdered his best friend who saved him. "Pushed too far, Alexander killed Cleitus with a spear, a spontaneous act of violence that anguished him. Some historians believe Alexander killed his general in a fit of drunkenness-a persistent problem that plagued him through much of his life."
    -2) His empire was nowhere near the size of Mongols or even close to Rome. Look up their empire.
    -3) He would conqueror a lot but was not interested in Governing : "British historian Charles Freeman suggests that "In scope and extent his achievements [Cyrus] ranked far above that of the Macedonian king, Alexander, who was to demolish the [Achaemenid] empire in the 320s but fail to provide any stable alternative."[103] Cyrus has been a personal hero to many people, including Thomas Jefferson, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and David Ben-Gurion"

    • @KingNoTail
      @KingNoTail 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You keep repeating the same shit in different threads.