Why PPP won Karachi Elections and the Lyari Gang War - Waqas Alam -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- Waqas Alam comes on TPE for an explosive episode of the podcast from why PPP won the LB elections to insane stories of the Lyari Gang War.
Baloch journalist Waqas Alam discusses democracy, student politics, Karachi's Urdu Speaking Crisis and Rigging.
Waqas Alam Angaria is a journlaist associated with Geo News and used to be the President of Progressive Students Federation Karachi and NSF.
He covers safari, heritage and disasters, and has been covering the floods in Sindh and Balochistan.
Waqas is a Baloch born in Lyari, Maula Madad and moved out from Lyari in 2002 during the period of the Lyari gangwar, when the rivalry between Arshad Pappu and Rehman Dacoit became headlines
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Chapters:
0:00 Waqas's background, local elections, casual racism
11:59 Karachi elections: MQM and PPP
20:33 The Urdu speaking crisis
29:53 Land and colonial after effects
38:47 Democracy and student politics, election day and rigging
53:21 Lyari and Rehman Dakait
1:03:14 Tales of Lyari
1:19:08 Making of Uzair Baloch
1:29:39 The people's perspective and end of conflict
1:47:14 Audience Questions - บันเทิง
We NEED another part of the lyari series with this guy. PLEASE!!!!
Agreed
Part 2 after clash between baba and uzair
Will be waiting
He is very informative cause he was witness that era , and agreed 💯
One of the best podcasts ever! 2 hours flew by and I didn't even realize. I also love how he is so objective about all political parties and is not dogmatic in his views. This is what a Podcast should be like!
Or bi bht si batain thi Jo bhai nai add nhi ki .. wo yai 3 3 din tak karfio hota tha jab waqfa hota tha to masjidio mai ailanaat hoty thy or hum phr bhagty thy rashan bharwanay ... Or phr lock hojaty thy
@Babar Ali joke nhi tha bhai yai .. ba khuda .... Ak baat mai persnaliy kehna caho ga khi kay halaat ganjy nai sahi kiye....
Mai wahi rehta tha undino bhitae hall kay pas ... Sari Raat galam galoch or live PUBG khailty thy I suware
1st time apki broadcast daikhi or pori daikhi porana dor yaad agia....
Liyari mai 2003 mai pori pori rat hum bhar galio mai bethy hoty thy ashqi mashoqio mai.... Wa wa kia din thy ....
Wow.. this was really good.. The entire history of Lyari's gang war is so painful but its important for us to know the details. Thanks Waqas and Shehzad
just 2 hours with this guy is not enough we need more of Waqas Alam
Looking forward to it and btw just started the dr zoha waseem podcast.
Its refreshing to see someone so young, yet so well informed. And to top it off objective, and yet a tv journalist. Shattering so many stereotypes together. Being an urdu speaking whose family comes from Bihar colony in Lyari, his stories have connected alot that i heard from my elders.
Are u Bihari?
Shehzad we need a podcast on Balochistans history and struggle with Pakistan and maybe a deeper look into how Baloch nationalism flourished in liyari
Interesting to hear you and Waqas give appropriate credit for the contribution of Hindus and Parsi's in Karachi's development and infrastructure. Love from Singapore. Lovely podcast 👍
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As Urdu Speaking (or as resident of Karachi) these are the issues that we face, 'Harassments from Police', 'No Government Jobs due to quota system', 'Not accepted when we apply for Army', 'Called Indians', 'Bullied by feudal lords', 'Get robbed by non Karachi-ites' and many more. Our only option is to migrate 1 more time as our grandparents did.
Migrate to??
Ur language is national language of Pakistan what else is need
I think we should stop calling ourself urdu speaking - We are sindhi now - - born here - - our parents were born here too - - - Sooner we accept that better. Own Sindh, own this land and strive to improve this place.
@@usmanmuhammad5061 I call myself Pakistani Canadian :-) thanks for the advice though
How many times we migrate. There must be problem with us sometime we become champion of islam n left our ansustors land people,culture without realising local people of land has more right then you they have own language culture civilzation. Now time realise that son of soil have more right every where go to Malaysia Malaya race more right even in NZ local morie has more right even to the whites who rule the country with 80 percentage population.
Baloch ko sb se zaida naqsan PPP ne k Baloch ko Baloch se larya ppp ne
Thank you Shehzad for bringing these people and their stories to everyone. Through your platform, people will learn that history exists pul k is, us, har par
Excellent podcast Shahzad and Waqas bhai. A refresher like this is appreciated, being from close neighborhood of Lyari myself, it was good to see all this discussed and presented to Karachi, especially our Gen Z....appreciated!
One of the finest and most candid podcast, need more such people and stories to get a better perspective of many things
I don’t know whether to cry or want more of these stories. I can’t believe I lived in the same city at this time and was insulated from all of this
Very true, as a Punjabi that grew up in Karachi I also get annoyed when my friends from Punjab ask me why people vote for someone like Altaf Hussain.
Hey Shehzad you are doing really great work !!! I am from india and love to listen your podcast… this episode with Waqas is really engaging and feels like it must go on and should not come to end… you are absolutely right it’s a Netflix series material🔥
Surprised by the amount of knowledge in this podcast. I would 100% listen to to this guy who's more involved on the ground rather than people like Paracha.
Sad to see still they put ethnicity above being a pakistani
Sometimes I don't agree to your views but I love your podcasts and specifically this one. More power to you!
MashaAllah What a great pleasure it gives me to watch such a podcast.Thankyou Shahzad beta for bringing the learned people on board.Salamat rahain hamesha Ameen
Proud Baloch ❤❤
Thank you so much Shehzad.
Characters:
1.Choudhari Aslam encounter specialist
2.Rehman dakait
3. Uzair baloch ,father mamu faizu singu lane area
4.Zengo (bagdadai area)
5. Arshad pappoo.(killed uzair father)
6.Kalari area (gafar zikri, baba ladla)
7.Karsaz bombing rehman dakait
8.Baba ladla( gull mohmad lane ) vs uzair baloch (singu lane )
9.Aman comittee
8.Zulfikar Mirza sindh home minister
Zengo liyari ka local he tha ? Please jawab de ? Uski photo dekh k lg nai rha tha
Greetings from Washington DC,I have watched/listened to you for awhile,didn’t agree with you and sometimes didn’t like you,but I didn’t leave,more I listened to you I began to understand and enjoy you more,
You are an acquired taste my friend,it gets better with time,stay blessed!!
Thank you for such an informative session on Lyari Gang war.
By far - this is the favorite episode.
Mere pass pori story hy lyari gangwar ki
@@daniyalsiddiq6292 ye btaen k SSP ch Aslam Shaheed jb lyari me first time aey thy, tab unka kia rank tha? #Bina Google search k
Wah yar maza agya! Never realized how real the situation in Lyari used to be
Bro iss podcast ma to sirf 10 percent lyari ki story cover hui web series to banti ha log scared game ko bul jayga
First ever podcast I spent my two precious hours 😁 and listened to the whole conversation till end , amazing discussion and sharing of knowledge by Waqas, hats off to you birat , really enjoyed it especially the history of Pakistan legislations at the beginning and Lyari gangwar , though I'm also a Baloch from Lyari and admit the facts shared are true per my knowledge. Kudos 👌👍
People will never be able to imagine the horrors of karachi's gangwars...
Sir please invite someone from Gilgit Baltistan ❤
Very interesting! Im surprised i just stumbled upon, because much lie Waqas, TPE is the only podcast i follow. Shehzad you still have not done the road show as discussed in the end. That needs to happen!
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Awesome Podcast ❤
Very informative
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Best podcast I have ever watched on TH-cam , love this journalist ❤
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Honestly tho Gangs Of Lyari needs a Netflix adaptation lol
Gregor Mendel? I think he meant Jogendranath Mandal, the first law minister of Pakistan.
very nice platform people from different experiences and different backgrounds came here and share their views. very congratulations to #TPE team
thank you for taking my question. I used to work in Lyari during peak Aman Committee tenure.
Thanks God finally I've found this podcast I have watched a clip on TikTok and wanted to watch full podcast but didn't know their names or channel name but here I am. 👏👏👏👏
Proud of URDU speaking you can never hide your identity...no matter where you go respect our language same like we respect baloch sindhi etc...
In your previous episode with nabeel gabol i asked to invite more people to get insight into lyari thank you for this episode absolutely love it!
You guys did an awesome job with this one.
Please do more Karachi gang stories. People who live overseas and GenZ have no clue violent Karachi was.
Best Conversation ❤️💯
Like your content, love from 🇮🇳
Amazing...!! The entire podcast was superb
Hello Shehzad it's Komal from India 🇮🇳 I have seen few of your videos and to my surprise for the first time I have seen a Pakistani talking facts and is not just ranting the old school things like hum musalman hai and stuff which I usually hear from a typical Pakistani portal. Although I like Pakistani culture and have started watching Pakistani podcast because of Pakistani drama's and one thing I must say Indians may be good at maths or many other things from Pakistani's but definitely Pakistanis have tehzeeb and polite way of talking which we Indians lack these days ! Love and respect from your HUMSAYA MULK Bharat! ❣️
Komal ji Modi ji ka pari ho kya??
Pakistani tehjeeb? Komal are u high
@@vipint3694 tehzeeb*
@@vipint3694 I'm definitely not High look around you bro the way we casually use curse words ( I'm talking about our generation) our parents generation didn't do that .
This use of curse words are not at all cool it's just sexist in origin and just show disrespect which we need to tackle ek limit hoti hai and I'm not saying ki humara culture kharab hai ofc not it's one of the best in the world but I was focusing on foul language that we use frequently. And Pakistani's don't do that and thats what I like about them they talk calmly and in a composite manner!!! Hope you understood what I meant
@@komalaseri9645 100%! my city Lucknow didn't succumb to this degeneracy for a long time but sadly, it has been seeping even here. Although the Lakhnawis still don't use "tu" even among the bestest of their friends.
However, things aren't that linear. Pakistani Punjabis embraced Urdu at the expense of their own language and culture. The over-romantisation of the culture which is actually Lakhnawi in nature has resulted in the modern gen of Punjabis looking down upon their own language and culture.
Informative podcast, thank you.
I currently work in Lyari and loved the stories about streets i see every day now plz bring him for another episode on details about Lyari gang war.
Saw full episode.. Very interesting and knowledgeable talks.... Great
Such a smart, intelligent, wise and wise cracking, dark humor--politically astute, educated pod cast. Thank you.
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Arshid papo ka ek Dialogue buht mashor thi.
For Zikri
" ye larka log Nahi, Chingaari Hai"
This podcast has many pointers for the layered story telling!! Amazing Shehzad and Waqas!!!
Bhut knowledge milti apka Prodcust sa 💯❤️
Amazing podcast. One of the best .. i am always amazed that how different and disconnected each part of Karachi is with other. People only talk about the bridge divide(bridge kay is par or us par), but theres are alot more bubbles in the city. And people are living in their own bubble. A person living in NN, Fb area, Gulshan and Johar, (the biggest of bubbles) have no idea how life is inside Malir or Inside orangi, or baldia town, or Liyari, or saddar or Korangi. Each one has own perception of what city is, and what the reality is around them. (Hope you got my point, am not as eloquent with words like you guys)
Thank you very much for it bhai
I was eagerly waiting for it.🙌🏼🫡
gangs of wasseypur director taking notes
well said Waqas, absolutely right about casual racism
One of the best Podcast !!!
Waqas Alam Is Great Person ❤️
He is 100 % right because I'm also from lyari
good stuff . thanks for this
Very well said “state policy to retain them, State policy to finish them” some up every thing.. very informative
Great analysis
Probably maerra 3rd podcast hai iss channel p aur 6th yaa 7th overall, you and Muzammil have got me into this category yarr. Love it. Both of you are aces in this field. Iss say pehlay toh m khud yehi sochta thaa, How can someone listen to such long videos in which 2 people are talking. Millennials toh 10sec wait ni kartay aur budhay babbon kee podcast wali feild hai ni but you really changed my thinking. Keep it up. Stay happy. Stay blessed. Keep thriving.
thank you for a very interesting podcast with a Lyari guest who is also a journalist. My theory on the breakdown of law and order began when the large open air community football ground was walled off, turned into a football stadium. Lyari youth lost access, and then football stadium was ocupied by Rangers. If you get to read this, please ask at another opportunity.
Listening to it for second time ❤️
most most interesting podcast amazing.good and very informative podcast that was.
Thanks for telling truth about Karachist problems the way of thinking
Best podcast i have ever listen
Amazing work by host and gueast
Lol im a fan of indian mafia stories definitely need a podcast of just stories of this era mqm baloch gang war
i swear!
Waiting Part 2...❤️❤️❤️
The only person you can listen to for 2 hours straight without yawning once, Waqas.
Very interesting podcast 👍
Karachi gangster stories man. Get some MQM gangsters in there too (if they are still alive). How in the world a movie hasn't been made on this subject. As always great work man.
Brilliant podcast!
We stand with Pakistan people's party insha'Allah 🔥🔥🔥 PPP 🔥 PPP 🔥 PPP
Waqas Alam Angaria....I will always remember the name....❤
very interesting and informative .
one of the best prodcust 💯❤️
These are the same mentality people jinke waja sa yeh Hal ha. Same people are still voting for PPP and eating a common karachites resources
Behtreen!
Love it!
Great Podcast, too much knowledge, Lyari has such heinous stories, always interested towards listening them...
PS: Waqar looks exactly like Shwetabh Gangwar from Mensutra.
Really interesting episode .
1st time in my search on social media I'm very satisfy podcast it's reality bass, no Volgar no shorsharba
Hat's off my friends
I was only 9 years old. When Lyari gang war groups used to fight each other. And I saw many corpse in my street. I still remember one day me and my brother who was only 11 years old. My brother came out of the main gate of the house and I was behind him. It was around 8 pm. At the time when everyone were at home after closing their businesses. And at that time there was load shedding that suddenly a bullet just passed through my brother's chest. I quickly took his hand and took him inside. When we entered our house, the bombing started but Alhamdulillah we were safe that time.
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Glad to hear that you and your brother were safe.
May Allah bless you more.
Bit of a correction.
Bhutto took charge of a broken Pakistan on 20th Dec 1971 as a martial law administrator because there was NO CONSTITUTION IN PLACE.
Bhutto immediately brought in a provisional constitution in 4 months .
And within a year brought in the 1973 constitution with NO DESSENTNG vote from any other party.
Would love to hear more about the stories of Lyari gang war
Bhaiii What a Podcast!! KIA HI DEKH RAHA HOON MAIN
Wah wah khul k bolta Hai banda really nice speaking be honest great
Assalamo aliekum waqas alam is true and fact discussion Allah bless you
Great podcast Shehzad & Waqas !!!
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@@ThePakistanExperience
One humble request!
Please have podcasts involving the following:
Dr. Ayesha Siddiqua
Huma Yousuf
Rafia Zakaria US
Jawed Naqvi, Dawn's correspondent in New Delhi
Just a comment as a Urdu speaker. Theres a general problem of percpetion of ethnic rural Sindhis in Karachi. Because due to PPPs allocation of all govt jobs to illiterate rural Sindhis, its not that that Sindhis are more corrupt, but whenever we see corruption we see an indifferent Sindhi sitting about, so mentally the two are linked together. Its not that a Karachiite (Urdu speaking, Urban Sindhi, Urban Punjabi) wont be corrupt sitting on those chairs (maybe less corruption), but since they arent seen there at all, people think only rural Sindhis are corrupt. PPP has managed to brand Sindhis as corrupt and illiterate.
Bro ye nhi smjhengay in k Zhen Mey Urdu speaking people k khilaf pata nhi Kya beyth gaya hey k ye hr podcast Mey asi batey krtey hey
@@allaboutknowledge6069ye pro ppp hai aap inko kuch nahin samjha saktay
Urdu speakers Sindhio, Balocho, pathano etc sab ko steryotype karein to theek or return me koi Sindhi ya baloch uspar baat b kare to aag 🔥lag jati hai tum urdu bolne walo Kay 😂😂@@allaboutknowledge6069
what a level shahzad bhai amazing kamal!
We have similar stories in UP and bihar. Era of Munna bajrangi, Mukhtaar Ansari, Ashok Smrat, Adhik Yadav, Kellu Yadav, Mini naresh, Shukla brothers,Shahbuddin etc. and above all ,king of gangsters Shree prakash Shukla
Informative
Bravo to Mr. Waqas & Thank you Mr. Ghias. Being a urdu speaker I always felt a bit of friction in Mr. Ghias views n perspectives , a bit of bitter taste for the muhajir community. But the way Waqas has steered n presented his perspective on all the stake holders of Karachi.. specially Layari, Muhajirs ..
Mr. Ghias... the poison that you must hv felt from Urdu speakers is not a home grown one, rather injected by the Establishment of 🇵🇰..orchestrated by muhajir politicians..
You must highlight n understand, that Urdu Speakers of Urban Sindh are the only community , legally been declared as separate one.. (4 soobey, 5 domicile)..no one else
Mr. Ghias, we the urdu speakers of urban sindh are right now the most muzloom, deprived n unfortunate community... (exclude leaders here)..There is no one to project our ordeal,plight n suffering which has increased n multiplied in the last 75 years of 🇵🇰..
Please do a program wd sumome sincere to the community not a puppet like mr. mustafa kamgal or leaders of mqm..
In last 3 decades 🇵🇰 media has only revolve around Punjabi generals, punjabi judges, punjabi actresses, punjabi journalist.. no one is there to Be our voice..
the only choice for educated ones is
Migration Number-2..which i don't mind at all...
but what about ones who can't
Out of frustration, i hv come to the terms wd myself :
Koi bala aur bhi hogi Kerbala k baad..
Meri bala se, watan ho taar O nashaad
Buchey they kuch jo mere qafley k log 😭
Huey yaan her roaz burbaad, bai faryaad
Tha jinka orhna bichona Ranjeet o mahraaj
Hum chuley, rahein woh yaan abaaad o shadaab
Koi bala aur bhi hogi Kerbala k baaad 😭
Hum Muhajir they, rahain gai Nabi (PBUH) k naam k saath
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Pakistan ka khuda hafiz 😭🤲
AB , 122022
@@ThePakistanExperience
Bro you are my favorite analysts and most critical speaker of Pakistan.
Previously I was fan of muzamil shah but now your thinking skill make me fan of your.
I'm also Urdu sepaking belongs to Hyderabad.
I just want to say reality is not the same that you are seeing there are certain issues that Muhajirs are facing.
Like you said that k Muhajirs to apni Urdu k Sath khi pr ghul mil sakhtey hey pr asa nhi hey bro.
Jub hum yha gov institutes ney jatey hey or Sindhi nhi bol patey to ajeeb hi hikarat bhari nazro sey dekha jata hey.
Mere acedmy ek sir meray samney Muhajirs ko nanga bhoka bol rhae they.
Mera ek dost Jo interior ka tha Muhajirs ko Gandi qoum bol rha tha.
I know that hr koi ek jeysa nhi hota pr interior mey bhout buri tareekey sey bacho ka brain wash Kya jata hey.
Once again I want to say that.
I know k ap bilkul racist nhi hey mey just ap ko ground reality Batana Cha rha tha.
One more conversation with this legend
Zabardast.
Yaar love this layari Series.
Would also like to see the point of view of A gangwar Member and Police walay(Anyone who participated in the operation).
Like a Patrick bet David Podcast
Wait for part 2
Well story is missing a lot of other areas. After lyari it was Malir . Malir has lots of goath and they have used these goath as a shelter. Malir was strategically important because of industries and all the perk’s associated with working as a mafia over there