Sidereal Confluence 5p Play-through, Teaching, & Roundtable discussion by Heavy Cardboard

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    Are you interested in learning how to play Sidereal Confluence? Here is your chance! Edward, from Heavy Cardboard, hosts Tony, who teaches you how to play in this video.
    Later, they are joined by Amanda, "Sweater" Mike, Adrian for a full-game play-through. Let us know what you think in the comments below, and don't forget to like and subscribe!
    Rules explanation begins: 2:18
    Gameplay begins: 42:18
    End game/Final Scoring: 2:37:25
    Roundtable/Post-game discussion: 2:41:35
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  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Timestamps
    Brief race introductions 35:18
    Start round 1 42:18
    End of trading 54:18
    Edward's economy phase 55:15
    Confluence phase (sharing technology) and upgrading technology 56:50
    - Bidding 58:29
    - Colony bids 1:01:03
    - Research team bids 1:03:50
    Start round 2 1:06:55
    - End of trading 1:16:38
    - Colony bids 1:23:15
    - Research team bids 1:25:51
    Start round 3 1:30:07
    - End of trading 1:35:28
    - Confluence phase 1:40:40
    - Colony bid 1:43:43
    - Research team bids 1:44:47
    Start of round 4 1:48:35
    - End of trading 1:58:09
    - Confluence 2:00:27
    - Colony bids 2:04:38
    - Research team bids 2:06:20
    Start of round 5 2:08:49
    - End of trading 2:15:59
    - Colony bids 2:23:28
    - Research team bids 2:24:47
    Start of round 6 2:25:30
    - End of trading 2:34:45
    - Confluence 2:36:48
    Scoring 2:37:23
    End of game discussion 2:40:38

  • @blkbird
    @blkbird 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "So can we do these things now?"
    "Only if they're purple."
    Pretty much sums up the feeling of this game entirely. :)

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's one we definitely enjoyed, but it's only ever going to see the table now-and-again. Thanks for watching, boyboyy!

  • @nobodynowhere21
    @nobodynowhere21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for streaming this! Not many play-thrus available online. This game is AWESOME! The strategy of each race, and the game in general, takes a while to unfold but is worth discovering. And the economy is completely dynamic and driven by the player's actions. :)
    I've played this with up to 8 and the game is not as chaotic as it might seem from the video imo. Usually people trade first with their immediate neighbors then expand outward as needed and as resources become more scarce. A good indicator of the end of the Trade phase is that you can slowly hear the players quiet down. So there is some order in the chaos.

  • @Aoshi312
    @Aoshi312 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just want to say thanks so much for making this! Not sure how engaging the original stream was for those watching but as someone struggling to learn the rules in the rule book, this video was exactly what I needed to grasp the entire game and teach it to others. Keep up the great work.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mission accomplished then, Zeek312z! Glad to hear it helped ease the learning curve. Cheers!

  • @FightStreeting
    @FightStreeting ปีที่แล้ว

    This was incredibly helpful to see a game ALL the way through! Thanks for the chaos of trying to film this all!

  • @MNNoxMortem
    @MNNoxMortem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Rule error 2: Planets AND colonies are on a conveyer belt and slide down. See teaching guide blue text under "Confluence (pg 7)".

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a great playthrough! I watched it several times to help refine my rules notes and to get an idea of what questions would come up in gameplay. It was *really* enjoyable to watch - the group looks like they have a lot of fun playing. I'm sad that I miseed it when the stream was live, but if you ever get this to the table again, I would *love* to watch another playthrough.
    Awesome job!

  • @PaulTobia
    @PaulTobia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job folks taking on such a game with a stream. Simultaneous turn games can be rough but I'm glad you got a great game out to the audience!

  • @Archytas-Leroy55
    @Archytas-Leroy55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best teaching videos out on how to play this great game. Thanks for the video!!

  • @ImperatorZed
    @ImperatorZed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was so much fun to watch. Totally worth a stream! Wish there was more!

  • @pumpkinjack5929
    @pumpkinjack5929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some friends and i just picked up the remastered version and holy hell is it a LOT. but this was a huge help, hopefully next time we meet we will actually be able to start a game lol

  • @AccioPadfoot12
    @AccioPadfoot12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks lady and gents! I bought Puerto Rico second hand and learned how to play by setting up a mock game and playing alongside you all. Not perfect but it taught me the mechanics and basics. Thank you!

  • @apostateant
    @apostateant 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stream, there was definitely some chaos with the negotiation but you managed it well. Would like to see how it plays with a higher player count but probably wouldn't be willing to sit through a stream of it.

  • @yayforjoel
    @yayforjoel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved the stream, thanks for playing something that was a little risky (in that the chaos might not play well). It was definitely worth it for me! :)

  • @Dwiggy4444
    @Dwiggy4444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent rules overview! I’ve played this a few times, but I needed a refresher and this absolutely did the trick.

  • @sad0happy
    @sad0happy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:24 nope, they don't make grey cubes: For each Atomic Transmutation card there is, it always consumes one thing for everyone but produces different colours for each races. Haven't watched it through but I'm hoping you will notice this in the play. :D

  • @buckcherry2564
    @buckcherry2564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    watching this in 2022 and it is funny reading chat "Heroquest would be in huge demand but noone is bothering with reprints" and "that one ROOT game on KS", "this newfangled Tabletop Simulator thing"......and "going to Cons" 😭and "Netrunner existing" 😭😭

  • @emperorspock3506
    @emperorspock3506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Without the negotiation, this game would be little more than a 'roided-up Century: Spice Road!
    Thank you for the video - can't wait for the remastered edition!

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Amanda was hampered because she didn't have all of her starting resources. I think that she played really well considering the handicap. I think she was missing a colony with an x2 token on it, and it would have helped her tremendously (no pun intended).

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont get the unitended pun

    • @WitherBossEntity
      @WitherBossEntity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corradoalamanni179 There's no pun because Christopher didn't intend for there to be one

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:01:05 I think Amanda's bid only counts as 1 ship because she's the Caylion. She would have picked fourth. It didn't make a difference because she passed anyway.

  • @vantarcane
    @vantarcane 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the A4 sheets that you were all using? It looks like a brief overview for each round of the game. Are those available anywhere?

  • @MNNoxMortem
    @MNNoxMortem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rule Error 1: The grey cubes on research teams do not correspond to grey cubes by unity, which is the only race with grey cubes as output, but to the race-specific cube color of this technology.

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It rappresent the shape of the cubes you will be getting

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did Amanda not get a starting colony with a seedling token? Or is it off camera?

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      She should have and that colony upgraded from the start pumps out a total of 12 big cubes or 24 small cubes or 12 ultratech ( consuming 12 smalls)

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Correct me if I am wrong but at 1:02 The Alien race that can have unlimited colonies actually always count like having no colonies for tiebreaker purposes.

    • @chayashida
      @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the way I read the rules. At 1:02:17, the person on the right (Mike?) should win the tie between Amanda and him because of the Kt'Zr'Kt'Rtl's power. It wins tied bids for planets as if it has no colonies.

    • @fulsame1
      @fulsame1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ktzrktrtl have an infinite tie breaker and always count as having no colonies when bidding. They get to smash there way into colonies as much as they want, thats their entire schtick

    • @chaosordeal294
      @chaosordeal294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't actually tie. Amanda only bid one. Her ships (Caylion) count as halves for colony bidding. Amanda tied with Edward.

  • @TomorrowsJo
    @TomorrowsJo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed the stream very much. Thank you.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Jorome! Thanks for watching and letting us know. Cheers!

  • @djc6535
    @djc6535 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 30:00 you say that the colonies are not on a conveyor . They are. The rules state "At the end of the bid phase take all remaining cards with a minimum bid of 1 and put them under their respective decks, front-side face up. Then slide all cards in the tracks all the way to the left and fill the empty spaces to the right from the top of the research team or colony deck as appropriate"
    This is on the last page of the rules right before END THE TURN

    • @blobulentsuit9138
      @blobulentsuit9138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also they weren't discarding the unpicked 1 bid research teams at the end of the bid phase... so they went through the deck slower than is intended.

  • @cthulhudreams7578
    @cthulhudreams7578 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Amanda ever actually use her seedling tokens in this game?

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:06:38, why don't the colonies conveyor belt down like the research teams do?

    • @djc6535
      @djc6535 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 30:00 they say that they don't conveyor. That they're random. This is wrong. The rules explicitly state that they are supposed to shift to the right after removing all bid 1 cards.

  • @Hanc_vrbata
    @Hanc_vrbata 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooo, an Arboretum reference at 33:20 :)

  • @king6dutch
    @king6dutch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ha Awesome. At 1:31:00 you hear what this game is probably like in the thick of it. Just a flurry of everyone talking.

    • @AndyVandercoy
      @AndyVandercoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that is the moment in the stream I have decided to go in on this with my group. A believe a good cosmic encounter group would love this

  • @Hanc_vrbata
    @Hanc_vrbata 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you writing on the white board there?

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's our "Glory to Rome" board. You can learn about it here: www.heavycardboard.com/faq/#hc-q10

    • @Hanc_vrbata
      @Hanc_vrbata 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heavy Cardboard I found that paragraph, It just doesn't say anything about the whiteboard

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, heh, you're right! It's just a 'tick mark' to note how many times it's been said during the streams since we implemented the board on our 50th live-stream. :)

  • @andrewyoung223
    @andrewyoung223 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does 'chaos' mean in games?

    • @benanderson46
      @benanderson46 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      In this example, it means that the rules don't set turns, so you're letting people pick the pace of what's happening (in negotiations). If you're a pent up old fart that wants everyone to stop and listen to what you're doing and saying, you'll be very unhappy. If you can slip in a quick comment or remark and follow along with the room, you'll love this game with all your heart.

  • @chayashida
    @chayashida 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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    2:40:25 I think Edward forgot to add points for his resources after totaling his VP. He might be tied with Mike with 46.5 points.

  • @personman4011
    @personman4011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like this game needs a reskin into an 1900s, industrial age, corporate theme, complete with old-timey stock markets, auction houses, and industrial breakthroughs for the trading, bidding, and technologies.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sign us up!

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would prefer a roman reppublic theme with the various species being roman families

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When he buys his first Relic why would Edward spend his just upgraded colony that gives him a free black cube when he could have spent the colony that only converts a brown to a blue, seems very inefficient =/

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's entirely possible. We don't always make the most efficient moves during our streams. We sometimes forget things and also keep things moving so that there's no AP. Cheers for pointing that out though, Victor!

  • @rainerahlfors
    @rainerahlfors 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 55:16 Edward forgot to collect 1 brown from his colony.

    • @rainerahlfors
      @rainerahlfors 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Additionally, at the end of the bid phase, any remaining cards with a minimum bid of "1" are discarded to the bottom of their respective decks. Then, all cards on the bid tracks slide all the way to the left before the tracks are refilled.

  • @Asaloy
    @Asaloy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just changing cubes for cubes... hm I pass